[00:33]  * Pulec just finish installing last version
[00:33] <Pulec> and i hope it finds proper drivers for nvidia 7800 go gtx
[00:33] <Pulec> otherwise my crt with 60hz refresh will kill me
[00:45] <Pulec> damn it it offers mee only 60hz
[00:45] <Pulec> nvidida x server
[00:46] <charlie-tca> you installed the hardware driver?
[00:47] <Pulec> yep
[00:47] <Pulec> but i have problem with my old monitor
[00:47] <Pulec> its not detected right
[00:47] <Pulec> its just the display
[00:48] <Pulec> also i am using double monitors, because go gtx is in notebook with lcd, which works ok
[00:48] <Virtual> Hi
[00:49] <Pulec> i guess i just wait until i have money for lcd
[00:49] <charlie-tca> Create or modify /etc/X11 xorg.conf
[00:49] <IamVirtual> anyone can help me
[00:49] <charlie-tca> Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[00:49] <IamVirtual> i cant boot xubunt on my dell optiplex gx240 , it panics
[00:50] <Pulec> grub?
[00:50] <Pulec> repair it?
[00:50] <IamVirtual> panics
[00:50] <charlie-tca> which version of Xubuntu?
[00:50] <IamVirtual> after the splash screen
[00:50] <IamVirtual> 10.10
[00:51] <charlie-tca> edit the grub menu, remove "quiet splash" from the kernel boot line and see if there are any messages on screen
[00:51] <IamVirtual> 123.127158 (<c05c63c3>) panic+0x5a/0xd2
[00:51] <IamVirtual> i pressed ESC
[00:52] <IamVirtual> and then it follows a long backtrace in orange letters
[00:52] <IamVirtual> booted without nouveau
[00:52] <IamVirtual> Screen frecuency invalid if i booted woth nouveau
[00:53] <IamVirtual> Help
[00:53] <charlie-tca> what do you mean? you were able to use it, then removed the nouveau driver and replaced it with ??? and now it is broke?
[00:54] <IamVirtual> mhm
[00:54] <charlie-tca> What were the messages after removing quiet splash?
[00:54] <IamVirtual> not sure if it whas usable see
[00:54] <IamVirtual> 123.127158 (<c05c63c3>) panic+0x5a/0xd2
[00:54] <charlie-tca> no, I don't see
[00:54] <charlie-tca> what did you replace nouveau with?
[00:55] <IamVirtual> when i used nouveau after the splash it goes black and my screen displays incorrect frencuency
[00:56] <IamVirtual> without nouveau (using just basic VGA grafics) it paniced
[00:56] <charlie-tca> How did you remove nouveau?
[00:56] <charlie-tca> Is this the live cd booting in safe graphics mode?
[00:56] <IamVirtual> nouveau.modeset=0 at grub prompt
[00:57] <IamVirtual> yeah its the live cd
[00:57] <IamVirtual> Normal mode
[00:58] <charlie-tca> so, what happens when you use safe graphics without that ?
[00:58] <IamVirtual> mhmm let me reboot
[00:58] <IamVirtual> in safe graphics
[00:58] <IamVirtual> or nouveau its the unsafe thing
[00:58] <IamVirtual> ?
[00:59] <charlie-tca> Don't have a safe graphics now. Try F6, nomodeset
[00:59] <charlie-tca> It is possible you have to try 10.04 instead.
[01:00] <IamVirtual> ok
[01:01] <IamVirtual> Normal gfx , nomodeset  here we go ..
[01:01] <IamVirtual> Scanning disc ..
[01:02]  * IamVirtual computer is slow as hell , standby
[01:03] <IamVirtual> * checking battery
[01:03] <IamVirtual> then it goes black
[01:03] <IamVirtual> H.V frequency overange
[01:03] <IamVirtual> i didnt use nouveau.modeset = 0
[01:04] <IamVirtual> its has something to do with my problem
[01:04] <IamVirtual> whats the problem
[01:05] <IamVirtual> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
[01:05] <IamVirtual> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
[01:05] <IamVirtual> H
[01:05] <IamVirtual> E
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[01:05] <IamVirtual> P
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[01:05] <IamVirtual> A
[01:05] <IamVirtual> S
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[01:05] <IamVirtual> I
[01:05] <IamVirtual> N
[01:06] <IamVirtual> E
[01:06] <IamVirtual> E
[01:06] <IamVirtual> Y
[01:06] <IamVirtual> D
[01:06] <IamVirtual> O
[01:06] <IamVirtual> U
[01:06] <IamVirtual> R
[01:06] <IamVirtual> H
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[01:06] <IamVirtual> T
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[01:06] <Pulec> damn you
[01:06] <IamVirtual> A
[01:06] <Pulec> ban you
[01:06] <IamVirtual> K
[01:06] <IamVirtual> N
[01:06] <IamVirtual> S
[01:06] <IamVirtual> in advances
[01:06] <Pulec> i need to ask question too damn it
[01:06] <IamVirtual> sorry i gone crazy
[01:07] <Pulec> i ubuntu 8.04 i could set xorg.cof in /etc/X11
[01:07] <Pulec> or where
[01:07] <Pulec> now i could do so too in 10.10
[01:07] <Pulec> but there is not file there anymore
[01:07] <Pulec> where i can set max refresh and resolution for monitor two?
[01:07] <IamVirtual> THEY WERE HELPING ME FIRST
[01:08] <IamVirtual> WAIT
[01:08] <IamVirtual> LIKE MEEEEE
[01:08] <Pulec> reinstall
[01:08] <Pulec> :D
[01:09] <IamVirtual> Im trying to boot THE INSTALL CD
[01:09] <Pulec> why cant i find opera or normal java in center of software?
[01:09] <IamVirtual> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHHHHHHHHHHH DAMN PC
[01:09] <IamVirtual> becuse they are not free
[01:09] <Pulec> of course!
[01:10] <IamVirtual> you need to enable the universe repository
[01:11] <Pulec> wow thank you virtual
[01:11] <Pulec> btw i had the same problem you have
[01:11] <Pulec> dont know what went wrong
[01:11] <Pulec> i just backed up filles and reinstall
[01:11] <Pulec> then went back to windows i think...
[01:11] <Pulec> for a while
[01:14] <IamVirtual> Btw  i think xorg.conf
[01:14] <IamVirtual> its in /usr/local/X11
[01:14] <IamVirtual> or /usr/x11
[01:14] <IamVirtual> NO
[01:14] <IamVirtual> W
[01:14] <IamVirtual> CAN
[01:15] <IamVirtual> ANYONE
[01:15] <IamVirtual> HELP ME
[01:15] <IamVirtual> PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeee
[01:15] <IamVirtual> IM SAYING PLEASEEEEE
[01:15]  * IamVirtual does a beggging face
[01:16] <Pulec> help him dudes
[01:16] <Pulec> :D
[01:16] <Pulec> i suggest you do NOT higlight everyone in the chan
[01:29] <charlie-tca> That is quite enough of the capitol letters and other nonsense. If you are that impatient, try google
[01:29] <charlie-tca> You can also go to #ubuntu and ask for help
[01:30] <charlie-tca> Pulec: sun/oracle java is no longer in the normal repositories. You have to enable the canonical partner repository now
[01:31]  * istok makes a note of that
[01:32] <charlie-tca> istok: did you need anything?
[01:32] <istok> no, just wasn't aware it wasn't in default repo's
[01:33] <charlie-tca> Okay. I don't remember if it moved for 10.04 or 10.10
[01:33] <istok> i'm pretty sure i had java in my 10.04 install
[01:33] <charlie-tca> We have openjava now that is available
[01:33] <istok> not sure if it upgraded for a dist-upgrade
[01:34] <charlie-tca> possible
[01:34] <istok> it seems to have, from the package list
[01:35] <istok> xubuntu runs fine for my intel, but the amd had issues
[01:35] <charlie-tca> It seems to bounce around, as to which video card will work in a release.
[01:36] <charlie-tca> As drivers get put into the kernel, what breaks changes
[01:37] <istok> yeah, i usually build my own
[01:37] <istok> depending on chipset
[01:37] <charlie-tca> IamVirtual: try all the options under f6 to see if any work
[01:37] <IamVirtual> ok
[01:37] <charlie-tca> and if all fail, you will need to download 10.04 and try it
[01:42] <charlie-tca> IamVirtual: it is also possible you won't get both monitors working on the live cd. Try running it with each one, as the only monitor
[01:43] <IamVirtual> Both ?
[01:43] <IamVirtual> theres is one
[01:43] <IamVirtual> another thing
[01:43] <IamVirtual> im booting from unetbootin
[01:43] <charlie-tca> Oh, sorry, confused my conversations.
[01:43] <IamVirtual> my pc lacks usb boot suport and i have no media
[01:44] <charlie-tca> Would be nice to know all the details at once. I can not help when I only get bits and pieces of information
[01:44] <charlie-tca> All I can do is suggest trying 10.04
[01:45] <charlie-tca> Pulec: you can create the xorg.conf file and it will get used
[02:11] <Pulec> i am almost done editing it...
[02:13] <Pulec> yaaay
[02:15] <Pulec> i really love gigolo in xubuntu
[02:16] <Pulec> i could not mount my internal hdd via terminal
[02:16] <Pulec> but gigolo should not be so hidden
[02:16] <charlie-tca> heh, it is not quite as easy as Ubuntu/gnome, but it does work!
[02:17] <Pulec> true
[02:17] <Pulec> i wonder how many steam and indie humble games will work
[02:18] <Pulec> Minecraft works ok
[02:18] <Pulec> how could i add shortcut to topbar? for opera
[02:20] <Pulec> aaarg
[02:20] <charlie-tca> right-click the panel, left-click add... , left-click Launcher
[02:21] <Pulec> have to reboot as a root user
[02:21] <Pulec> so many limitioants
[02:21] <Pulec> plus i cant get to my minecraft appdata folder
[02:22] <charlie-tca> You can use terminal to get to root, just use sudo -i
[02:23] <Pulec> sudo-i ?
[02:25] <charlie-tca> no, sudo -i
[02:25] <charlie-tca> spaces are important . sudo space -i
[02:25] <charlie-tca> enter your password. You become root in the terminal, just like you rebooted and used root
[02:26] <Pulec> cool
[02:26] <Pulec> i get it now
[02:26] <Pulec> thx
[02:27] <charlie-tca> so much to learn, so little time
[02:29] <istok> i think i had to sudo passwd root - to set it before i could su -
[02:29] <Pulec> wine didnt worked for me in default
[02:29] <Pulec> you dont own  that folder stuff
[02:30] <Pulec> miranda does not work hh
[02:32]  * charlie-tca thinks wine is that stuff he drinks when looking out the windows :-)
[02:33] <Pulec> foobar works though
[02:35] <Pulec> daamn i cant view .* folders on other hdds
[02:38] <charlie-tca> using Thunar?
[02:39] <charlie-tca> check the option under view menu for hidden files
[02:40] <Pulec> oh that was easy
[02:40] <Pulec> thx
[02:44] <Pulec> well its almost morning, time for bed
[02:44] <Pulec> tomorrow i will try to get sound working
[09:07] <beagleP> hi. I have messed up some permission and now I can access to the xfce desktop only as root. Is there a way to solve that?
[09:09] <moetunes> beagleP:  What does  ls -l ~/.Xauthority  return as your normal user
[09:10] <beagleP> moetunes: is ~ /root or /home/myuser ?
[09:10] <beagleP> moetunes: I can't find .Xauthority anymore
[09:12] <moetunes> the check was on /home/you.Xauthority
[09:12] <moetunes> try ls -l ~/.config   and see whoowns the xfce4 folder
[09:13] <beagleP> moetunes: drwxrwxrwx 6 ocs ocs  4096 2010-06-23 15:13 xfce4
[09:13] <moetunes> k
[09:14] <beagleP> (ocs is myuser)
[09:14] <beagleP> anyway, Xauthority is missing
[09:15] <moetunes> check for hidden X lock files in /tmp
[09:15] <moetunes> hidden files start with a dot
[11:04] <faLUCE> hi. Do you know if ubuntu well works with a Zotac GeForce 9300-ITX-I-E?
[11:22] <bazhang> faLUCE, thats a video card? under maverick?
[11:28] <faLUCE> bazhang: that's a mini-itx board
[11:29] <bazhang> faLUCE, I'd  check the hcl and ubuntuforums then
[11:30] <bazhang> !hcl
[12:40] <xubuntu381> Hello. More or less, how long should it take xubuntu to install? There's no progress bar and no clock...
[12:41] <bazhang> depends on the system; how much ram, what cpu
[12:42] <xubuntu381> A fairly modern Core2Duo with 4GB of RAM. But I'm installing from a USB hard drive onto one.
[12:43] <bazhang> perhaps an hour
[12:43] <xubuntu381> :o Mkay..
[12:43] <bazhang> although impossible to say with 100% certitude
[12:46] <xubuntu381> Meh. So is there a shortcut to make the "start menu" pop up? Clicking on the background with the mouse doesn't produce any menu. Only a rotating "busy" cursor.
[12:48] <bazhang> I'd do it with unetbootin to be honest. doing it from a usb hdd is not something I know about
[12:51] <xubuntu381> Thing is, I've only got this one IDE drive and an external IDE case which connects via USB. All my other SATA drives in the case seem to have gone crazy.
[12:54] <xubuntu381> And unetbootin seems to be the same what I did. I used LiLi to install the xubuntu ISO onto the drive and I booted my computer from USB. My motherboard boots okay with a USB hard drive, but does not want to boot from a USB stick. It's all crazy and I'll need to get me a SATA external drive case and test each drive to see what gives..
[13:59] <xubuntu381> Is there any way to check if xubuntu is even installing itself at all?
[20:44] <Pulec> how can i make *.sh scripts run in terminal?
[20:44] <Pulec> where is terminal located?
[20:45] <charlie-tca> hm, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[20:45] <Pulec> not like that
[20:46] <charlie-tca> put an    sh    in front of the script name if it won't run
[20:46] <Pulec> when i double click in thunar it launches in mousepad
[20:46] <charlie-tca> no? <Pulec> where is terminal located?
[20:46] <charlie-tca> terminal is located at   Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[20:46] <Pulec> i know
[20:46] <Pulec> i can open it anywhere
[20:48] <charlie-tca> so do you mean the directory it opens in?
[20:48] <Pulec> nevermind
[20:48] <charlie-tca> that is normally the /home
[20:49] <Pulec> i can launch in thunar anywhere i want
[20:49] <Pulec> buut i want to run that script in terminal
[20:49] <Pulec> script is in sh
[20:49] <Pulec> nevermind
[20:49] <Pulec> i have problems with making almost anything
[20:49] <Pulec> root rights for everything
[20:49] <Pulec> and sound does not work
[21:25] <kevin> anybody have any advice on how to install an external HDD  to my xubuntu