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Riddellmuon moved to main, added to dvd seed00:10
Riddellpartitionmanager moved to main, added to kubuntu-common00:10
ScottKRiddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDevelopers00:21
Riddellthanks00:23
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Riddellhttp://kamikazow.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/so-canonical-ported-unity-to-qt…/#comment-587  ubuntu one manager wants a qt client01:39
JontheEchidna!find libxml/parser.h02:01
ubottuFile libxml/parser.h found in libxml2-dev, lsb-build-desktop302:01
Riddellyofel: kdevelop 4.2 RC1 released upstream02:02
RiddellNCommander: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/unity-2d_0.1-0ubuntu2.debdiff02:29
JontheEchidnaphononlogger: http://i.imgur.com/orD5G.png03:56
JontheEchidnathe only thing is that it currently kDebug()'s package names that it finds instead of installing them03:57
JontheEchidnalol: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554261/04:07
JontheEchidnasilly typeefs04:08
JontheEchidnas/typeefs/typedefs04:08
JontheEchidnakubotu don't love meh :(04:08
apparleIs there any way to connect to mobile gprs over bluetooth04:50
markeyomg debian08:57
markey"This is solved in Amarok 2.3.2 AFAIR"08:57
markey"Thanks, although this is good and bad news. Amarok will always be seriously broken for the next debian stable release Squeeze)."08:58
markeywhat can you say to such users?08:58
markey"Hey, swap your Commedore C64 with an Amiga! Like, go with the times, dude!"08:58
markey"What, more than 1Mhz? Are you nuts?"08:59
shadeslayermarkey: rofl10:17
yofelo/10:22
yofelRiddell: should I put the packages into staging? natty seems to work fine here, for maverick I first need to patch the kdesdk symbol files10:22
shadeslayerill have a new desktop in like ...4 hour10:25
shadeslayer*hours10:26
shadeslayera new build machine for me ... yayy :P10:26
shadeslayerany ideas how effective icecc would be over wifi?10:26
shadeslayerhmm .. too bad it doesnt work on windows10:29
markeyshadeslayer: we are using Icecream, with one box connected over WiFi11:00
markeyworks just fine11:00
markeyI mean, modern WiFi is almost as fast as cable11:00
shadeslayermarkey: ah ok ... i have a N band router .. so speed should not be a issue :)11:00
shadeslayermarkey: plz2make amarok free of glib crap11:04
markeyerm11:11
yofelshadeslayer: icecc works fine over wifi here, depends on how many jobs you want the other pc to do11:11
markeyAmarok does not use glib11:11
shadeslayermarkey: gpod integration stuff11:11
markeyhm?11:11
markeyah11:11
markeyI don't use iPods11:11
markeydon't care11:11
markeyalso, we are glad that libgpod exists!11:12
markeyotherwise we would have to deal with the stupid Apple devices by ourselves11:12
shadeslayer^_^11:12
shadeslayeri wonder if there's a kpod lib somewhere11:12
markeyno11:12
markeyKDE guys are often allergic to apples11:13
shadeslayerhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/kpod/11:13
markeyand that is tons of work11:13
shadeslayerlol11:13
shadeslayerthere's a libqtpod11:13
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ari-tczewJontheEchidna: ping14:42
milianwhere can I get qt 4.7.1 for maverick?15:15
markeyskfin: great post-it note you did there, for Amarok :)15:22
markey(The Roktober thing)15:22
markeylooks sweet15:23
shadeslayermilian: one sec15:24
shadeslayermilian: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa15:25
shadeslayeralso contains newer KDE15:25
milianshadeslayer: thanks15:26
milianshadeslayer: that does not contain qt 4.7.115:27
milianonly kde 4.5.515:27
shadeslayerit should15:27
shadeslayerlemme recheck15:27
shadeslayerok .. might be beta backports15:28
shadeslayerhold on15:28
milianI'll switch to my arch machine...15:30
shadeslayermilian: sorry ... theres no qt4-x11 for maverick15:30
shadeslayeronly natty15:30
milian-.-'15:30
sheytanyo masters :D16:23
sheytanwill amarok 2.4 packages be available today? :D16:23
* ScottK discovers he isn't going to package the latest rsibreak.16:25
ScottKThanks JontheEchidna.16:25
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QuintasanScottK or JontheEchidna: Can you upload python3-defaults? I picked a patch from Debian SVN I need in order to build the sip16:36
ScottKQuintasan: Sure.  Where's the debdiff?16:36
QuintasanScottK: http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/python3-defaults_3.2~b2-2ubuntu1.debdiff16:40
ScottKQuintasan: It's a native package.  It doesn't need quilt/patches, just change the source directly.16:42
ScottKQuintasan: Also debian/changelog should describe what's being changed in addition to where you got the change (commit message for the change you're cherrypicking is a good start).16:43
debfxsheytan: yes, I just uploaded the packages16:59
QuintasanScottK: please redownload the debdiff, it should do the trick17:01
ScottKQuintasan: Still some changes in debian/rules that shouldn't be there.17:02
QuintasanHmmmmmmm17:02
QuintasanAlrighty17:03
ScottKQuintasan: Also you need to make the maintainer change in debian/control.in.17:03
QuintasanScottK: And to what I should change it?17:03
ScottKQuintasan: Same as you did in debian/control.17:04
ScottKIf you don't change control.in, your change in control will get over-written the next time it's regenerated from control.in.17:05
QuintasanScottK: I'm pretty sure I didn't change maintainer field17:05
ScottKQuintasan: OK.  Just leave it then.17:05
ScottKI think there's magic in the build script that does that.17:05
ScottKI'll remove the rules changes and then have a look17:05
QuintasanScottK: redownload the debdiff please, I've kept the changes to bare minimum17:06
Quintasanchangelog entry + modification17:06
ScottKLooks good.17:07
skfinhttp://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.4.017:08
skfinLol, very wrong channel17:10
yofel2.4.0 is packaged in ninjas, so it'll be there soon17:11
skfinHmm17:11
skfinyofel: It has been released just like few hours ago?17:11
skfinThey really are ninjas if thats for real17:11
yofelskfin: packagers usually get early access to the releases, I would assume that's true of amarok as well17:12
skfinBut still, eh17:12
QuintasanPIZZA TIEM17:16
debfxJontheEchidna: ping18:19
JontheEchidnaari-tczew: pong18:24
JontheEchidnadebfx: pong18:24
JontheEchidna(been out of the house today)18:25
ari-tczewJontheEchidna: could you sponsor bug 702073 ?18:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 702073 in python-django (Ubuntu) "Sync python-django 1.2.3-3 (main) from Debian testing (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70207318:25
debfxJontheEchidna: hi, could you please sponsor http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/synaptiks_0.4.0-1ubuntu2.debdiff18:25
JontheEchidnaari-tczew, debfx: sure18:25
debfxJontheEchidna: could you also re-add kde-config-touchpad to kubuntu-desktop18:34
JontheEchidnacan do18:34
debfxthanks18:35
markeythanks for packaging Amarok 2.4 so quickly, Riddell :)18:47
markeythat is nice18:47
QuintasanScottK: Is it uploaded?18:57
debfxJontheEchidna: I guess bug #703359 needs a core-dev ack19:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 703359 in kcm-touchpad (Ubuntu) "Request for removal from archive (source only)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70335919:23
JontheEchidnadebfx: done19:25
shadeslayerubottu: find QtOpenGL/qgl.h20:05
neversfeldetail: cannot open `debian/changelog' for reading: No such file or directory20:12
neversfeldeanyone else having this problem with pbuilder?20:12
yofelhm, try 'sudo -E ...' other than that, no20:13
yofelassuming you're running natty20:13
neversfeldeyofel: yes, natty. I'll try it20:16
neversfeldesame problem20:21
neversfeldethe debian directory is there when dropping to shell20:21
ulyssesjtechidna: Muon Suite doesn't  use translations again, I can't switch application language20:46
jtechidnaulysses: it got recently moved to main in natty, so next time the ubuntu lang packs rebuild you should get your l10n back20:46
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shadeslayerubottu:  find qgl.h:20:48
ulyssesthanks20:48
shadeslayerubottu: find qgl.h20:48
JontheEchidnaari-tczew: btw, is your bug supposed to have debdiffs?20:48
JontheEchidna!find qgl.h20:48
ubottuFile qgl.h found in libqt3-mt-dev, libqt4-opengl-dev, python-qt4-doc, qt3-doc, qt4-doc-html20:49
shadeslayerdammit20:49
ari-tczewJontheEchidna: sponsors never wanted debdiffs in syncs requests20:49
shadeslayertoo much of rbot i guess ^_^20:49
JontheEchidnaari-tczew: oh! thought it was a merge :)20:49
JontheEchidnaari-tczew: obvious confirmation, confirmed20:49
ari-tczewJontheEchidna: nice :)20:49
JontheEchidna(and subscribed ubuntu-archive)20:50
yofel!find GL/glu.h20:50
ubottuFile GL/glu.h found in libglu1-mesa-dev, libroot5.18, mingw-w64, mingw32-runtime20:50
yofelshadeslayer: ^20:50
shadeslayerhmm20:50
JontheEchidnaulysses: but on the bright side muon will be available on the dvd20:51
ari-tczewJontheEchidna: your sponsorship list is growing up! :)20:51
shadeslayeryofel: you missed the 'u' earlier :P20:52
yofelhm? no, that was about GL/gl.h ;)20:52
yofel!find GL/gl.h20:52
ubottuFile GL/gl.h found in libroot5.18, mesa-common-dev, mingw-w64, mingw32-runtime, nvidia-173-dev, nvidia-96-dev, nvidia-current-dev20:52
yofelor not, gl stuff is confusing20:53
ulyssesJontheEchidna: It is always asked from me when will be Muon Suite the default package management system20:53
JontheEchidnaulysses: that would be up to the Kubuntu Council to decide if they wanted to switch from PackageKit20:53
* JontheEchidna is noticing a lot of .desktop translation file updates for the release tomorrow :)20:56
phononloggershadeslayer: bzr + cia is client-side configuration21:07
yofelwe found that out by now...21:08
Riddellyofel: hi, did you work out what to do with kdevelop?21:16
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shadeslayerphononlogger: boo :(21:17
yofelRiddell: I put natty into ninjas, I'll do kdesdk for maverick now, spent some time on neon today21:18
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Riddellyofel: want me to upload to the main archive for natty?21:26
ScottKQuintasan: I got called away.  Uploaded now.21:26
QuintasanThanks21:26
ScottKThanks for putting it together.21:26
yofelRiddell: sure, it works fine here, didn't do too in-depth testing though21:26
yofelRiddell: is that just gcc 4.4 <> 4.5 difference or something else missing? http://paste.ubuntu.com/554505/21:30
Riddellhmm, this airport lounge internet is being used by about 2 canonical people, running a bit slow21:31
yofel^^21:31
Riddellyofel: if it's the same thing you're compiling on two different distro versions then it pretty well must be the compiler21:32
Riddellso not something to worry about21:32
yofelok, I'll just patch the symbols then21:33
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phononloggerJontheEchidna: very nice gst21:36
JontheEchidnaphononlogger: got it installing, but I need to thread it properly so I can handle exit codes sanely & still be able to quit the app21:44
JontheEchidnaI'm looking at k-d-i as a threading model21:44
phononloggerbad idea21:44
phononloggeror did I refactor it yet?21:45
JontheEchidnaI don't think there have been major changes to the threading21:45
phononloggerJontheEchidna: well, you could just have some handler in a thread and have the handler issue signals 21:45
phononloggerthen connect to the signals in the mainthread and call qapp->exit(code) or somesuch21:45
phononlogger(though, probably calling exit itself might be better, since you dont need a super graceful shutdown *shrug*)21:46
JontheEchidnathe thing is that I could just do the whole thing in one procedural, except that the actual installing bits are asynch.21:47
phononloggerhence the signals :P21:47
JontheEchidnabut exit() from inside my main class doesn't actually exit21:47
phononloggerexit always exits21:47
phononloggerqapp->exit will cleanup the mainloop first or something like that21:48
JontheEchidnaI was probably doing something very wrong, because also the second time I call a kmessagebox, it would return a KMessageBox::No result without actually showing the message box21:48
JontheEchidnabut that was a while back and things totally changed21:48
Riddellyofel: upload to staging find someone to test then copy to beta I think21:49
phononloggernow what is the thing I usually say when something does not work for you?21:49
* phononlogger is all sorts of sick and cant even think straight21:49
phononloggerah21:49
phononloggerJontheEchidna: faulty software, clearly :P21:49
yofelwill do21:50
JontheEchidnaI will agree in this case :P21:50
Riddellyofel: uploaded21:55
yofelthanks :D21:56
ari-tczewJontheEchidna: still around?23:07
JontheEchidnaari-tczew: yup23:07
JontheEchidnagot the mail23:09
ari-tczewJontheEchidna: could you sponsor next sync? bug 70340823:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 703408 in quagga (Ubuntu) "Sync quagga 0.99.17-4 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70340823:09
JontheEchidnaall good, ack'd23:11
ari-tczewJontheEchidna: what's the difference between Confirmed and Triaged status in ACKing sync?23:13
JontheEchidnaI don't think there is one23:14
JontheEchidnaphononlogger: http://i.imgur.com/nrWwy.png23:22
JontheEchidnaon an unrelated note, good job @kde-l10n too http://i.imgur.com/S1TNd.png23:25
ari-tczewpl translated in only 73%, not good, not good...23:33
* yofel notes he'll need some kdevelop 4.1.90 maverick testers soon23:36
JontheEchidnadebfx: audex has a new upstream release that fixes a GCC 4.5 FTBFS. I noticed that we're syncing this from Debian and that you were the last one to touch it there. Would you be interested in updating it in Debian?23:41
JontheEchidnathough I'm not sure what's going on with their freeze status...23:42
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ari-tczewJontheEchidna: experimental are always open. 23:44
ari-tczewHowever, maintainers could also upload to unstable if there are bugfixes.23:45
debfxJontheEchidna: I have no intention to maintain audex, but before we diverge from Debian i'll try to get it updated there23:51
JontheEchidnacool, thanks23:52
JontheEchidnaiirc it's already pkg-kde maintained23:52
debfxyes, though i'm not sure how they handle team uploads23:55
debfxcould you push the retry button for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/2:2.4.0-0ubuntu1/+build/215522123:55
JontheEchidnasure23:56

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