[00:10] <Riddell> muon moved to main, added to dvd seed
[00:10] <Riddell> partitionmanager moved to main, added to kubuntu-common
[00:21] <ScottK> Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDevelopers
[00:23] <Riddell> thanks
[01:39] <Riddell> http://kamikazow.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/so-canonical-ported-unity-to-qt…/#comment-587  ubuntu one manager wants a qt client
[02:01] <JontheEchidna> !find libxml/parser.h
[02:02] <Riddell> yofel: kdevelop 4.2 RC1 released upstream
[02:29] <Riddell> NCommander: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/unity-2d_0.1-0ubuntu2.debdiff
[03:56] <JontheEchidna> phononlogger: http://i.imgur.com/orD5G.png
[03:57] <JontheEchidna> the only thing is that it currently kDebug()'s package names that it finds instead of installing them
[04:07] <JontheEchidna> lol: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554261/
[04:08] <JontheEchidna> silly typeefs
[04:08] <JontheEchidna> s/typeefs/typedefs
[04:08] <JontheEchidna> kubotu don't love meh :(
[04:50] <apparle> Is there any way to connect to mobile gprs over bluetooth
[08:57] <markey> omg debian
[08:57] <markey> "This is solved in Amarok 2.3.2 AFAIR"
[08:58] <markey> "Thanks, although this is good and bad news. Amarok will always be seriously broken for the next debian stable release Squeeze)."
[08:58] <markey> what can you say to such users?
[08:58] <markey> "Hey, swap your Commedore C64 with an Amiga! Like, go with the times, dude!"
[08:59] <markey> "What, more than 1Mhz? Are you nuts?"
[10:17] <shadeslayer> markey: rofl
[10:22] <yofel> o/
[10:22] <yofel> Riddell: should I put the packages into staging? natty seems to work fine here, for maverick I first need to patch the kdesdk symbol files
[10:25] <shadeslayer> ill have a new desktop in like ...4 hour
[10:26] <shadeslayer> *hours
[10:26] <shadeslayer> a new build machine for me ... yayy :P
[10:26] <shadeslayer> any ideas how effective icecc would be over wifi?
[10:29] <shadeslayer> hmm .. too bad it doesnt work on windows
[11:00] <markey> shadeslayer: we are using Icecream, with one box connected over WiFi
[11:00] <markey> works just fine
[11:00] <markey> I mean, modern WiFi is almost as fast as cable
[11:00] <shadeslayer> markey: ah ok ... i have a N band router .. so speed should not be a issue :)
[11:04] <shadeslayer> markey: plz2make amarok free of glib crap
[11:11] <markey> erm
[11:11] <yofel> shadeslayer: icecc works fine over wifi here, depends on how many jobs you want the other pc to do
[11:11] <markey> Amarok does not use glib
[11:11] <shadeslayer> markey: gpod integration stuff
[11:11] <markey> hm?
[11:11] <markey> ah
[11:11] <markey> I don't use iPods
[11:11] <markey> don't care
[11:12] <markey> also, we are glad that libgpod exists!
[11:12] <markey> otherwise we would have to deal with the stupid Apple devices by ourselves
[11:12] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[11:12] <shadeslayer> i wonder if there's a kpod lib somewhere
[11:12] <markey> no
[11:13] <markey> KDE guys are often allergic to apples
[11:13] <shadeslayer> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kpod/
[11:13] <markey> and that is tons of work
[11:13] <shadeslayer> lol
[11:13] <shadeslayer> there's a libqtpod
[14:42] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: ping
[15:15] <milian> where can I get qt 4.7.1 for maverick?
[15:22] <markey> skfin: great post-it note you did there, for Amarok :)
[15:22] <markey> (The Roktober thing)
[15:23] <markey> looks sweet
[15:24] <shadeslayer> milian: one sec
[15:25] <shadeslayer> milian: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[15:25] <shadeslayer> also contains newer KDE
[15:26] <milian> shadeslayer: thanks
[15:27] <milian> shadeslayer: that does not contain qt 4.7.1
[15:27] <milian> only kde 4.5.5
[15:27] <shadeslayer> it should
[15:27] <shadeslayer> lemme recheck
[15:28] <shadeslayer> ok .. might be beta backports
[15:28] <shadeslayer> hold on
[15:30] <milian> I'll switch to my arch machine...
[15:30] <shadeslayer> milian: sorry ... theres no qt4-x11 for maverick
[15:30] <shadeslayer> only natty
[15:30] <milian> -.-'
[16:23] <sheytan> yo masters :D
[16:23] <sheytan> will amarok 2.4 packages be available today? :D
[16:25]  * ScottK discovers he isn't going to package the latest rsibreak.
[16:25] <ScottK> Thanks JontheEchidna.
[16:36] <Quintasan> ScottK or JontheEchidna: Can you upload python3-defaults? I picked a patch from Debian SVN I need in order to build the sip
[16:36] <ScottK> Quintasan: Sure.  Where's the debdiff?
[16:40] <Quintasan> ScottK: http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/python3-defaults_3.2~b2-2ubuntu1.debdiff
[16:42] <ScottK> Quintasan: It's a native package.  It doesn't need quilt/patches, just change the source directly.
[16:43] <ScottK> Quintasan: Also debian/changelog should describe what's being changed in addition to where you got the change (commit message for the change you're cherrypicking is a good start).
[16:59] <debfx> sheytan: yes, I just uploaded the packages
[17:01] <Quintasan> ScottK: please redownload the debdiff, it should do the trick
[17:02] <ScottK> Quintasan: Still some changes in debian/rules that shouldn't be there.
[17:02] <Quintasan> Hmmmmmmm
[17:03] <Quintasan> Alrighty
[17:03] <ScottK> Quintasan: Also you need to make the maintainer change in debian/control.in.
[17:03] <Quintasan> ScottK: And to what I should change it?
[17:04] <ScottK> Quintasan: Same as you did in debian/control.
[17:05] <ScottK> If you don't change control.in, your change in control will get over-written the next time it's regenerated from control.in.
[17:05] <Quintasan> ScottK: I'm pretty sure I didn't change maintainer field
[17:05] <ScottK> Quintasan: OK.  Just leave it then.
[17:05] <ScottK> I think there's magic in the build script that does that.
[17:05] <ScottK> I'll remove the rules changes and then have a look
[17:06] <Quintasan> ScottK: redownload the debdiff please, I've kept the changes to bare minimum
[17:06] <Quintasan> changelog entry + modification
[17:07] <ScottK> Looks good.
[17:08] <skfin> http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.4.0
[17:10] <skfin> Lol, very wrong channel
[17:11] <yofel> 2.4.0 is packaged in ninjas, so it'll be there soon
[17:11] <skfin> Hmm
[17:11] <skfin> yofel: It has been released just like few hours ago?
[17:11] <skfin> They really are ninjas if thats for real
[17:12] <yofel> skfin: packagers usually get early access to the releases, I would assume that's true of amarok as well
[17:12] <skfin> But still, eh
[17:16] <Quintasan> PIZZA TIEM
[18:19] <debfx> JontheEchidna: ping
[18:24] <JontheEchidna> ari-tczew: pong
[18:24] <JontheEchidna> debfx: pong
[18:25] <JontheEchidna> (been out of the house today)
[18:25] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: could you sponsor bug 702073 ?
[18:25] <debfx> JontheEchidna: hi, could you please sponsor http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/synaptiks_0.4.0-1ubuntu2.debdiff
[18:25] <JontheEchidna> ari-tczew, debfx: sure
[18:34] <debfx> JontheEchidna: could you also re-add kde-config-touchpad to kubuntu-desktop
[18:34] <JontheEchidna> can do
[18:35] <debfx> thanks
[18:47] <markey> thanks for packaging Amarok 2.4 so quickly, Riddell :)
[18:47] <markey> that is nice
[18:57] <Quintasan> ScottK: Is it uploaded?
[19:23] <debfx> JontheEchidna: I guess bug #703359 needs a core-dev ack
[19:25] <JontheEchidna> debfx: done
[20:05] <shadeslayer> ubottu: find QtOpenGL/qgl.h
[20:12] <neversfelde> tail: cannot open `debian/changelog' for reading: No such file or directory
[20:12] <neversfelde> anyone else having this problem with pbuilder?
[20:13] <yofel> hm, try 'sudo -E ...' other than that, no
[20:13] <yofel> assuming you're running natty
[20:16] <neversfelde> yofel: yes, natty. I'll try it
[20:21] <neversfelde> same problem
[20:21] <neversfelde> the debian directory is there when dropping to shell
[20:46] <ulysses> jtechidna: Muon Suite doesn't  use translations again, I can't switch application language
[20:46] <jtechidna> ulysses: it got recently moved to main in natty, so next time the ubuntu lang packs rebuild you should get your l10n back
[20:48] <shadeslayer> ubottu:  find qgl.h:
[20:48] <ulysses> thanks
[20:48] <shadeslayer> ubottu: find qgl.h
[20:48] <JontheEchidna> ari-tczew: btw, is your bug supposed to have debdiffs?
[20:48] <JontheEchidna> !find qgl.h
[20:49] <shadeslayer> dammit
[20:49] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: sponsors never wanted debdiffs in syncs requests
[20:49] <shadeslayer> too much of rbot i guess ^_^
[20:49] <JontheEchidna> ari-tczew: oh! thought it was a merge :)
[20:49] <JontheEchidna> ari-tczew: obvious confirmation, confirmed
[20:49] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: nice :)
[20:50] <JontheEchidna> (and subscribed ubuntu-archive)
[20:50] <yofel> !find GL/glu.h
[20:50] <yofel> shadeslayer: ^
[20:50] <shadeslayer> hmm
[20:51] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: but on the bright side muon will be available on the dvd
[20:51] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: your sponsorship list is growing up! :)
[20:52] <shadeslayer> yofel: you missed the 'u' earlier :P
[20:52] <yofel> hm? no, that was about GL/gl.h ;)
[20:52] <yofel> !find GL/gl.h
[20:53] <yofel> or not, gl stuff is confusing
[20:53] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: It is always asked from me when will be Muon Suite the default package management system
[20:53] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: that would be up to the Kubuntu Council to decide if they wanted to switch from PackageKit
[20:56]  * JontheEchidna is noticing a lot of .desktop translation file updates for the release tomorrow :)
[21:07] <phononlogger> shadeslayer: bzr + cia is client-side configuration
[21:08] <yofel> we found that out by now...
[21:16] <Riddell> yofel: hi, did you work out what to do with kdevelop?
[21:17] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: boo :(
[21:18] <yofel> Riddell: I put natty into ninjas, I'll do kdesdk for maverick now, spent some time on neon today
[21:26] <Riddell> yofel: want me to upload to the main archive for natty?
[21:26] <ScottK> Quintasan: I got called away.  Uploaded now.
[21:26] <Quintasan> Thanks
[21:26] <ScottK> Thanks for putting it together.
[21:26] <yofel> Riddell: sure, it works fine here, didn't do too in-depth testing though
[21:30] <yofel> Riddell: is that just gcc 4.4 <> 4.5 difference or something else missing? http://paste.ubuntu.com/554505/
[21:31] <Riddell> hmm, this airport lounge internet is being used by about 2 canonical people, running a bit slow
[21:31] <yofel> ^^
[21:32] <Riddell> yofel: if it's the same thing you're compiling on two different distro versions then it pretty well must be the compiler
[21:32] <Riddell> so not something to worry about
[21:33] <yofel> ok, I'll just patch the symbols then
[21:36] <phononlogger> JontheEchidna: very nice gst
[21:44] <JontheEchidna> phononlogger: got it installing, but I need to thread it properly so I can handle exit codes sanely & still be able to quit the app
[21:44] <JontheEchidna> I'm looking at k-d-i as a threading model
[21:44] <phononlogger> bad idea
[21:45] <phononlogger> or did I refactor it yet?
[21:45] <JontheEchidna> I don't think there have been major changes to the threading
[21:45] <phononlogger> JontheEchidna: well, you could just have some handler in a thread and have the handler issue signals 
[21:45] <phononlogger> then connect to the signals in the mainthread and call qapp->exit(code) or somesuch
[21:46] <phononlogger> (though, probably calling exit itself might be better, since you dont need a super graceful shutdown *shrug*)
[21:47] <JontheEchidna> the thing is that I could just do the whole thing in one procedural, except that the actual installing bits are asynch.
[21:47] <phononlogger> hence the signals :P
[21:47] <JontheEchidna> but exit() from inside my main class doesn't actually exit
[21:47] <phononlogger> exit always exits
[21:48] <phononlogger> qapp->exit will cleanup the mainloop first or something like that
[21:48] <JontheEchidna> I was probably doing something very wrong, because also the second time I call a kmessagebox, it would return a KMessageBox::No result without actually showing the message box
[21:48] <JontheEchidna> but that was a while back and things totally changed
[21:49] <Riddell> yofel: upload to staging find someone to test then copy to beta I think
[21:49] <phononlogger> now what is the thing I usually say when something does not work for you?
[21:49]  * phononlogger is all sorts of sick and cant even think straight
[21:49] <phononlogger> ah
[21:49] <phononlogger> JontheEchidna: faulty software, clearly :P
[21:50] <yofel> will do
[21:50] <JontheEchidna> I will agree in this case :P
[21:55] <Riddell> yofel: uploaded
[21:56] <yofel> thanks :D
[23:07] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: still around?
[23:07] <JontheEchidna> ari-tczew: yup
[23:09] <JontheEchidna> got the mail
[23:09] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: could you sponsor next sync? bug 703408
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> all good, ack'd
[23:13] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: what's the difference between Confirmed and Triaged status in ACKing sync?
[23:14] <JontheEchidna> I don't think there is one
[23:22] <JontheEchidna> phononlogger: http://i.imgur.com/nrWwy.png
[23:25] <JontheEchidna> on an unrelated note, good job @kde-l10n too http://i.imgur.com/S1TNd.png
[23:33] <ari-tczew> pl translated in only 73%, not good, not good...
[23:36]  * yofel notes he'll need some kdevelop 4.1.90 maverick testers soon
[23:41] <JontheEchidna> debfx: audex has a new upstream release that fixes a GCC 4.5 FTBFS. I noticed that we're syncing this from Debian and that you were the last one to touch it there. Would you be interested in updating it in Debian?
[23:42] <JontheEchidna> though I'm not sure what's going on with their freeze status...
[23:44] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: experimental are always open. 
[23:45] <ari-tczew> However, maintainers could also upload to unstable if there are bugfixes.
[23:51] <debfx> JontheEchidna: I have no intention to maintain audex, but before we diverge from Debian i'll try to get it updated there
[23:52] <JontheEchidna> cool, thanks
[23:52] <JontheEchidna> iirc it's already pkg-kde maintained
[23:55] <debfx> yes, though i'm not sure how they handle team uploads
[23:55] <debfx> could you push the retry button for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/2:2.4.0-0ubuntu1/+build/2155221
[23:56] <JontheEchidna> sure