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DarthFrogI'm not a programmer so I don't know for sure but I *think* you need to use a ";" to comment out a line.00:00
mandlaDarthFrog: Thanx man. I will keep on trying00:00
dan08try: "sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5" that should solve it :D00:02
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dan08hey can someone help me??00:18
DarthFrog!ask | dan0800:19
ubottudan08: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)00:19
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KulitorumWoops, I removed the application launcher - how do I get it back?01:30
KulitorumHA - I figured it out :) - Keep up the good work01:33
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FloridaGuyim in a live session right now...on a usb flasg drive.....installed gparted..its asking for root password....what is root pass for a live session ?01:47
KimLarouxHhhmm, that's weird... Kpakagekit stopped automatic updates, I just manually checked and I have some 30 critical upgrades to do... Anyone else had that problem?01:51
the_bait_utnope, but you can do that from command line01:51
the_bait_utdo you know how?01:52
the_bait_ut??????01:52
Fanfarethe_bait_ut: sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get upgrade01:53
the_bait_utcool, fine...01:53
KimLarouxI know how to do so... duh... that's beside the point01:54
the_bait_utso try that, because there was recent update of that package i guess, maybe it will fix that01:55
laptopj02:04
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Blueleaff02:15
Blueleafanyone know how to get ubuntu to connect to a windows system similar to RDP/02:16
Blueleafd02:21
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Blueleafis anyone here02:24
davinciwhere can i find the driver for ati x120002:27
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zak_im using kubuntu 10.10 on an asus laptop and my headphone port doesnt work. how can i fix that03:13
kevin__l need some help with my Ubunto operating system03:47
moetuneskevin__:  if you use ubuntu there is the #ubuntu channel - if you use kubuntu ask away :)03:52
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jackalopei have a question04:36
jackalopein firefox when i use the wheel on my mouse the screen looks like a puzzle04:37
jackalopeim just wonder if this problem has crop up with anyone else here?04:38
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apparleIs there any way to connect to mobile gprs over bluetooth04:50
jackalopei think you need to directly hook it up04:51
jackalopenot to my knowlegde which inst much04:51
jackalopemake sure you have the correct service plan04:52
jackalopethrough your cell service cause there are hevy fine04:52
jackalopefines*04:52
jackalopeim laying down on my bed04:52
jackalopewhy im typoing lol04:52
obscurant1stis there anyway i could use the start button of my keybopard to open up the menu in my system panel, like windows does?06:22
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obscurant1stsomebody?06:26
scriptwarlockping06:28
scriptwarlock!hello06:29
scriptwarlock!info06:34
ubottuRetrieve information on a package: !info <package>06:34
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Guest46599Question ... in Kopete, when I select a dark scheme for the chat window, it doesn't change the text input area.06:57
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DouglasKLet's retry that with a real nick  :)07:10
DouglasKQuestion ... in Kopete, when I select a dark scheme for the chat window, it doesn't change the text input area.07:10
dereinepersonally i think the best way to achieve a dark schema is to use the invert effect :)07:12
DouglasKHm... I'd not thought about it.07:14
DouglasKI might just do that.07:15
DouglasKStill ... I gotta wonder if that's as designed, or if it's a bug.07:21
DouglasKAs designed - enhancement request, low priority.  Bug - asthetic, maybe not quite so low.07:22
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Tm_TDouglasKAway: the input area is separate from chat style currently (and please no awaynicks)07:54
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DouglasKTm_T: thanks for the heads up on the nick.08:02
DouglasKTm_T: is there a way to change the input area's colours?08:02
Tm_TDouglasK: yes, but cannot remember exactly how, sorry08:03
DouglasKNo worries ... just knowing it is possible means it's worth doing the work to find out how.  :)08:04
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ox3aHello08:40
ox3aSomeone can help me editing menu?08:41
ox3apls?08:41
dereinekmenuedit08:43
ox3adereine, I doing another way08:43
ox3aTrying make linux kde base distro and thats why i need to add my extra own menu in mounted iso08:44
ox3aPerhaps need to edit manually or command line dereine08:45
ox3adereine, Any way?08:47
bigbrovarox3a: are u trying to add an item to the menu? or u want to rearrange an item? and I guess you want this to be systemwide?08:51
ox3abigbrovar, Add item and rearrange both but very important adding item08:52
bigbrovarox3a: u can always use kmenuedit. but your changes would not be systemwide. one way to make them systemwide is to edit the menu entry by hand from /usr/share/applications08:55
bigbrovarox3a: AFAIK the menu entry is a freedesktop standard which is followed by all desktop environment.08:56
bigbrovaru can u can always create a *.desktop using any .desktop file as a guild on how it should be structured.08:57
ox3adereine, How can i add item there(i know menu configuration is exist in ~/.config/menus09:03
ox3adereine, Can you give me a simple example please( it will systemwide and my own distro)09:06
ox3a?09:07
ox3ain /usr/share/applications all are exec apps but not directory. I need to add a directory/folder item and a lot of sub menu under the directory/folder09:15
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chris____hi10:57
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Guest28203xbins11:26
javier_hi to everybody. Im in a big problem, maybe with no solution. I had an important .odt paper in my harddrive and, somehow, i've lost it (I mean, it's empty now). I hoping there is something in Kubuntu similar to Windows "restore system to a previous state", but i certainly doubt and cannot find any application like that. So, I looking for help restoring that file or confirmation that there is anything to do. Thanks!12:06
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foormeahi12:15
foormeai don't get it, with 10.10, i'm telling kopete to show in systray, but it just won't show12:16
lesleyhi i have a problem, i just activated my gfx drivers on ubuntu, when i reboot it says 'fatal server error: no screens found'12:23
rorkfoormea: did you check the hidden trayicons?12:26
foormearork: yeah. checked in kopete and systray12:27
foormeatried checking with/without the messaging systray thinggy12:28
foormeadoesn't change a thing12:28
xmichael91hi all. my x server fails to start when I start up kubuntu. but then normally starts with startx cmd. what is the reason?12:30
xmichael91soon I installed ati drivers.12:32
davraychrGreetings!  I just tried to use KTorrent to download all of WIkileaks, which gives a torrent for each file (4 thousand something torrents in all). This didn't go well, and I ended up with a ton of jobs showing up in my notifications area.  Is there a good way to clear those out withjout clicking the little X one at a time?12:35
davraychrlike for example a file where they are stored? grepping .kde for a bunch of patterns yielded nothing12:36
xmichael91is there anybody who use kubuntu with ATI mobility radeon videocard?12:39
rork!anybody | xmichael9112:46
ubottuxmichael91: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:46
rorkoh, sorry you did ask before12:46
wperw_hello12:54
rorkhi12:56
ewaeI have a problem with my domain, when I type my domain name it goes on my internet box instead of redirect on my computer13:01
ewaeis somebody knows how to use zoneedit and azote?13:06
kaddiis there a way to change the minimum width of kaffeine? It's huge (taking up three quarter of my screen) and I can't resize it to make it any smaller >.<13:11
BluesKajHi folks13:28
kaddihi13:29
foormeamsttcorefonts has been replaced by ttf-mscorefonts-installer, is this correct?13:55
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sagaciHi14:13
rorkhi14:17
Daskreechhi14:22
ubuntuhi14:25
sagaciSo natty kubuntu will be something like kde 4.6 yeah?14:28
forwardhello14:30
sagaciHi14:30
forwardthis software is very good14:31
sagaciYes14:32
BazaarHi everyone, should I use Kubuntu 32 or 64 on my Core 2 Duo iMac?15:05
Bazaarthe 32-bit version would work, but just up to around 3.5 GB of RAM, right?15:06
Bazaarnobody here?15:11
Bazaarare you ignoring me on purpose or something?15:13
DarthFrogOr perhaps nobody has an answer for you.  It happens.15:14
BazaarI see, but null is differerent from "" if you know what I mean ...15:15
DarthFrogIt's also early in the morning (well, it is here).  Folks might not be up yet.  Or sufficiently caffeinated to be firing on all cylinders.15:16
BazaarBut there are around 250 people in this chatroom ... or are they all just idleing?15:17
DarthFrogAt the most active times, there might be 3 or 4 threads going.  It varies. A lot.15:18
BazaarWell, as you might noticed, I am not very often in IRC, therefore I do not really know how it regularly goes.15:19
BazaarWould you happen to know how I can disable the displac of the "xy joined" messaged in Pidgin?15:19
DarthFrogLeave the window open all day and see what goes on?15:19
mendredhi..on kubuntu 10.10 in network manager > edit network connection, the "System connection" checkbox is disabled by default..is there anyway to enable this? I would like to create system wide wireless connections so that network manager connects on boot startup rather than waiting for login15:19
DarthFrogSorry.  I use Konversation.15:19
Bazaarnp15:19
Bazaarare you a sudoer?15:20
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Bazaar@DarthFrog: Can one disable that in Konversation?15:21
DarthFrogmendred: I don't know the specific answer to your question using Network Manager.  But I would do it using wpa_supplicant and the /etc/network/interfaces file manually.15:21
DarthFrogBazaar: Yeah, it's easy to do in Konversation.  It's in one of the Settings.  I have it turned off.15:22
Bazaarapt-get install konversation it is then :D15:22
mendredDarthFrog: Ok thanks :)...i was trying to get it in networkmanager instead of installing wpa_Supplicant15:22
DarthFrogmendred: AFAIK, if you use networkmanager, you can store the passwords in Kwallet.  But you'll still have to give your password to Kwallet when logging in after booting.15:23
DarthFrogBut my knowledge is limited in that area, sorry.15:24
mendredDarthFrog: Ok thanks!15:24
DarthFrogmendred: Come back later on when more people might be active and ask again.  I'd be interested in the full answer also.15:25
bzr2hmm, konversation seems a little more techy than pidgin ...15:25
DarthFrogIs pidgin a GNOME app?15:26
mendredDarthFrog: yeah will do..am googling this...and it seems there is way..but that the kde applet for nm doesnt have this enabled...so may have to use the gnome applet instead :)15:26
BazaarDarthFrog: I am not too sure, but I believe that it is standard on Gnome. Kopete is the standard for KDE I believe. The scrollbars do not look like oxygen, but rather like the odd ones in firefox.15:27
DarthFrogDoes Kopete do IRC now?15:28
Tm_TDarthFrog: nope15:28
DarthFrogTm_T: That's what I thought.15:29
fenix777????? ????! ? ubuntu ???????15:29
Bazaarokay, so Konversation and Kopete does the same on KDE than Pidgin does on Gome together15:29
DarthFrogAnother KDE IRC app is Quassel.15:29
Bazaaror you go leet with xchat :D15:30
DarthFrogKvirc is still available.15:30
Tm_Tthere's tons of irc-clients, Kubuntu's default is currently Quassel15:30
DarthFrogYou might even get mIRC running under wine. :-)15:30
bzr2I think I will settle with Konversation: blends into KDE, has this nice purple line and I can ignore all the join/kick/idontcare messages15:31
bzr2wine ...15:31
bzr2c'mon15:31
geekosopherirssi all the way15:32
bzr2well, that sounds like I got to spend a weekend trying IRC clients, huh?15:32
DarthFrogChoice is good!15:32
Tm_T!irc15:32
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines15:32
DarthFrogbzr2: Personally, I'd suggest picking one and learning it inside and out.15:33
bzr2yeah, that is the same way I did not start with git besides bzr, but rather leaning the guts of bazaar a little better15:33
bzr2Apple's Time Machine just tricked me badly: It showed xx GB of 39,9 GB all the time. Now it just says 40.8 of 40.8 GB ...15:35
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BluesKajbzr2, if you're interested , konversation is the best irc client for kubuntu , IMO and experience15:38
bzrI just have tried xchat, pidgin and konverstation, and the latter (or former, I am not sure about my english here) seems to be quite good.15:39
BluesKajyeah bzr, xchat is sort of ok , but's a windows app ported to linux and it's clunky IMO ...konversation on the other hand is clean and simple15:41
DarthFrog"Latter" would refer to Konversation.  "Former" would be ambiguous, perhaps referring to either xchat or pidgin or maybe both.15:41
bzrThanks, so "latter" means the last of an enumeration, "former" one but the last?15:43
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frank_hi! where can i get help if i have problems with xboard?15:53
bzrwhat kind of problem do you have with it?15:58
rats__frank_: you might be able to find something here http://www.gnu.org/software/xboard/15:59
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frank_rats__: ok, thanks. that may help.16:00
rats__your welcome16:01
pingusmanin the login srceen appears "Fri 14 January 2:07 AM" how can change to appears "Friday 14 January 2011  14:07:10" (KDM) ?16:02
pingusmancommand  date  "+%A %d %Y  %T"  in bash give me wishing results16:02
pingusmanin the xml file of the theme KDM write "<text>%c</text>" what must change ?16:03
bazaarI assume that you might just have to replace %c with %A %d %Y  %T16:08
sithlord48sup fellow kubuntu users?16:19
pingusmanbazaar:  If only it were so easy16:19
bazaarisn't %c just the short for a complete date? Or was that %r?16:22
bazaarbzw, is it normal that the installer for Kubuntu 10.10 takes a lot of time after the preparation screen?16:22
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mendredDarthFrog: found the workaround..but it involves using nm-applet16:58
mendredDarthFrog: so i guess this means that networkmanager can handle connections at startup..but some reason the kde network manager applet cant handle it...16:59
DarthFrog mendred Glad to hear you got it working.17:01
bzrhow can I change the monitor and display setup at startup/login?17:04
sre-suHow to set default media player in KDE/Kubunt? System Settings> default Applications doesn't contain such options17:16
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arge2 questions -- 1 i installed 10.10 on toshiba a200 and when it boots/shutdown there is no kubuntu screen - just a blue console with text in it17:27
arge2 i gets really hot17:28
arge2 it gets really hot17:28
cedric_peace17:36
bzrarge: Maybe linux does not recognize the acpi stuff which controls the fans and so on. But I am definitly no expert on that.17:43
argebzr: hmm17:43
bzrI do have the same blue console on my iMac where I just installed 10.10 after I installed the ATI driver17:44
argebzr: i see mine after nvidia17:45
argebzr: and there no other problems?17:45
argebzr: just wondering if it's a bad install17:45
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mams3123 test18:42
vanguardthe sound of my ALC889 card is very faint -- what can I do?18:48
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jschallktorrent doesn't suppress sleep when torrents are running, even though i have the box checked. i googled and found a bug for the issue, but it was an old, fixed bug. any thoughts? using kubuntu 10.10 with kubuntu-ppa for latest version of KDE.19:13
jschalladditionally, ps3mediaserver can't suppress suspend either19:21
vanguardWhat can I do when my ALC889 sound output is like -12db too faint?19:27
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hotwingsanyone happen to know exactly how big a base install of kubuntu 10.10 is?20:16
cameleonThe installer says 2.3GB20:17
hotwingsthanks cameleon20:19
cameleonnp20:19
hotwingsneeded to know if i should go grab a 16GB sdhc, or use one of the 8GB ones i have laying around20:20
Wenzel__hello, I have installed Kubuntu 10.10 on a netbook, i've installed the bc43 driver and the wifi doesn't work, but it works on ubuntu on the same netbook20:21
Wenzel__the interface looks "waiting for authorization" then "configuring interface" and then nothing20:22
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vanguarddid you enter the password?20:31
Wenzel____yes20:33
Wenzel____it is encrypted in WPA20:33
Wenzel____and I entered the correct password, many times20:33
PhilRodWenzel____: I've had problems if I put in an incorrect password the first time, then it appears to ignore the correct ones i type in later. I had to delete the connection and recreate it20:34
PhilRodfwiw...20:34
nerdy_kidWenzel____: maybe try changing the network password, I have heard that did it for some people20:35
Wenzel____ok I'll try20:35
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FloodBotK1!netsplit20:48
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit20:48
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DaskreechOj20:51
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DaskreechCannot handle "host" cmdline arg `www.google.com' on position 121:01
Daskreechanyone has any idea what would cause that error?21:01
Tm_Tin where?21:01
Tm_Toh, right21:01
DaskreechTm_T: CLI21:01
Tm_TDaskreech: I don't know how you get "host" to spit that kind of error, I tried but failed21:02
DaskreechTm_T: That's from traceroute21:02
Daskreechbut if I run w3m or anything else I'll get somethign similar21:03
Daskreechip addresses work fine21:03
DaskreechNames work with a ping command however21:03
Tm_TDaskreech: try retyping the url?21:03
DaskreechTm_T: What command are you running?21:06
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Tm_TDaskreech: traceroute21:10
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DaskreechTm_T: Works fine with a IP address?21:26
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hotwingsis there any way to select what gets installed with kubuntu?  i dont need/want about 90% of the junk and would rather not have to bother uninstalling it if it cant -not- be installed in the first place21:30
James147_hotwings: not easly... you might want to consider a distro like arch, where you build and configure it from the ground up21:32
hotwingsive only ever used debian testing without a desktop/gui.. originally had thought installed base debian and then kde or gnome would be ok but i was told its a huge mess trying to do that and you cant simply install kde and get everything.. you'd have to install all the components separately.. seems really lame but ..................21:33
James147_hotwings: afraid if you want a streamline install your going to need to need to install allot of things manually... or uninstall them (but working from the group up is easier)21:36
James147_hotwings: ^^ i suggest you look at arch, they have plenty of documentation and isent to hard to build up the system you want using that21:37
FloridaGuyuseing 64 bit kubuntu 10.10..installed the latest virtualbox in the repo....trying to run sabayon from virtualbox...and its saying....This kernel requires an x86-64 cpu, but only detected an i686 cpu..?21:38
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James147_FloridaGuy: seems the vm is set to 32bit ^^ as far as I know virtualbox can emulate a 64bit (if running on a 64bit), but you might need to tell it to when you create the vm21:40
FloridaGuyJames147_: k21:41
hotwingsthanks James147_, will look into it21:50
DaskreechTm_T: Fixed it! ^_^21:55
Daskreechhotwings: Install the Kubuntu server then install what you want21:56
Tm_TDaskreech: ah good, what was it?21:57
DaskreechTm_T: My DNS server was disappearing intermittenly I moved the DNS to a closer server and it works fine now21:58
DaskreechNow to break it again :)21:58
Tm_Tnice21:59
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Daskreechcan I use IPtables to do a local port switch?22:24
Daskreechhave a server listen on a port then have IPtables expose a different port on the network?22:24
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Toast__I'm having a problem with really really laggy response from some KDE apps, for example Kmail or Kate and would appreciate some help debugging the problem. I'm running 10.10 with nvidia driver on a 3 core AMD with 4GB ram. It's hard to track down the cause as the problem comes and goes.22:32
Toast__Most recently when I had a problem, X was taking about 50% of one of my cores and firefox was using about 20%. Closing firefox removed the problem, but opening it again with the same number of tags didn't bring the problem back.22:32
Toast__Have any of you seen a problem like that?22:32
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DaskreechToast: what's your definition of a laggy response?22:35
ToastDaskreech: I type a sentence and look up to find only two words on the screen, letters appearing slowly in front of my eyes, or move the scroll bar with my mouse and have a wait a second before the application responds.22:36
Daskreechcan you run top or ksysguard to see if it's CPU bound?22:37
James147_Toast: are you useing dual screen?22:37
ToastI've tried htop and generally seem to have plenty of cpu, though at it's worst, X can be taking quite a lot of one of the cores.22:38
ToastJames147_:  I have used dual screen in the past. Currently I have 1 screen connected, but I may still be configured for two.22:38
Daskreechdo you have desktop effects turned on?22:38
James147_Toast: ^^ i would make sure its configured as one and your not useing xinerama (caused horrffic lag for me when i was useing it similar to what you have)22:39
ToastDaskreech: Desktop effects are turned off.22:40
ToastJames147_: I will be putting my second monitor back on soon... Lets see what the setup prog says...22:40
James147_Toast: i suggest taht when you do, use twinview instead of seperate screens22:41
ToastJames147_: Will do.22:41
ryrychhello23:03
ryrychcould you tell me the paths where Kubuntu is looking for autostart?23:03
James147_ryrych: ~/.kde/Autostart is one...23:04
James147_/usr/share/autostart is probaly another23:06
ryrychJames147: do you know which is used when I set autostart in system settings?23:06
James147_ryrych: the one in ~/.kde23:06
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yofelthere's also ~/.config/autostart/, but I don't know where that is used23:09
ryrychJames147: recently I started to run kwin with some parameters (in autostart as a script). But the entry is no longer there. Regrettably while start-up screen is flickering as if the script from autostart was used. Is it possible the script is kept elesewhere?23:10
ryrychand that it is still run during start?23:11
James147_ryrych: only place i know of that kde touchs is ~/.kde/Autostart.. though I seem to ahve a ~/.kde/share/autostart as well :S  ^^ and there is the one yofel said, but as far as I know kde dosent use that (though I am probally wrong :) )23:12
ryrychyofel: wait, probably it is what I'm looking for :)23:12
yofelI know gnome uses it, but kde doesn't list what I have there so I'm unsure23:12
ryrychyofel: yeah! KDE's system settings use it. And there is my guilty :D23:14
James147_Think kde uses the one listed in - System settings > Account details > Paths23:15
ryrychJames147: I looked up there and there is ~/.kde/Autostart listed there. But all entries from system settings were placed in .config/Autostart23:16
James147_ryrych: hmm, weird23:17
ryrychmaybe all my probs with desktop effects will go away :D23:18
ryrychthank you guys, at least I can count on kubuntu channel - it is not possible on ubuntu one because of message flood :)23:19
ryrychbye for now!23:20
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