[00:00] <Red-Raven> it didn't work.
[00:01] <holstein> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126570
[00:02] <holstein> screenshot too
[00:02] <holstein> if you want
[00:11] <ibuclaw> holstein, oh man...
[00:11] <ibuclaw> those were the good old days
[00:11] <holstein> ibuclaw: ?
[00:12] <ibuclaw> (looking at screenshots)
[00:12] <Red-Raven> ...we still do that.
[00:13] <Red-Raven> holstein, the option under behaviors wasn't there.
[00:13] <holstein> Red-Raven: the options have changed
[00:14] <holstein> maybe you could take a screenshot?
[00:14] <holstein> Red-Raven: ^^
[00:14] <Red-Raven> yah hold on
[00:16] <Red-Raven> http://imagebin.org/132674
[00:20] <nit-wit> holstein, does Red-Raven's image look like low graphics mode to you?
[00:21] <Red-Raven> ....O.O
[00:21] <JackyAlcine> Red-Raven: It looks like that the theme set for the window controls is some standard stuff.
[00:21] <Red-Raven> Xchat and FF are normal.
[00:21] <holstein> nah
[00:22] <holstein> i think thats following the theme
[00:22] <holstein> the icon theme and all
[00:22] <Red-Raven> the theme is "dusty" and its never been like this before.
[00:22] <nit-wit> holstein, cool:) hopefully
[00:22] <holstein> Red-Raven: go into preferences
[00:22] <holstein> and check the icons
[00:22] <holstein> that looks normal to me
[00:23] <holstein> for that theme
[00:23] <JackyAlcine> Red-Raven: I think that part of the theme's missing. Does it do that for all of your themes?
[00:23] <Red-Raven> no ill try another one.
[00:23] <holstein> JackyAlcine: that to
[00:23] <holstein> like the icons are missing
[00:23] <holstein> or not being loaded
[00:23] <holstein> and defaulting to gnome ones
[00:24] <Red-Raven> same thing on another theme.
[00:25] <holstein> Red-Raven: try the icon theme
[00:25] <Red-Raven> when i click places all the main folders like Docs, Music, Etc. are the same thing.
[00:26] <Red-Raven> under customize?
[00:26] <holstein> system - preferences - appearance
[00:26] <holstein> customize
[00:26] <holstein> icons
[00:26] <JackyAlcine> ^^ holstein's on to something.
[00:27] <holstein> JackyAlcine: hehe
[00:27] <Red-Raven> yah but im not using a custom theme. once you create a custom theme it makes it's own seperate theme so the default ones stay intact. im using a default one, so the icons should be the same.
[00:28] <holstein> right
[00:28] <holstein> try changing the theme icons
[00:28] <holstein> just for the hell of it
[00:29] <Red-Raven> oh thx. i had it set to Gnome.
[00:31] <holstein> cool
[00:31] <holstein> im out... laterx...
[00:31] <Red-Raven> oh crap. it only changed the "places" icons. would a reboot help?
[00:36] <Red-Raven> brb
[00:40] <Red-Raven> yay! reboot fixed it.
[02:47] <Red-Raven> hey.
[02:49] <Red-Raven> i don't get it. why can 64 bit processors run 64 bit OSs, but not 64 bit VMs?
[02:50] <holstein> Red-Raven: not sure about that
[02:51] <holstein> i thought a 64bit proc could be 'faked' in VM
[02:51] <holstein> Vbox
[02:51] <holstein> whatever
[02:51] <holstein> by a 32bit machine
[02:51] <holstein> nothing you would want to run other than for testing
[02:51] <Red-Raven> yah mee neither. its kind of backwards. would using VMware instead of Vbox make a difference?
[02:52] <holstein> i would think they would be similar
[02:52] <holstein> in features
[02:56] <aveilleux> holstein: VBox can run a 64-bit processor.....
[02:59] <holstein> yeah
[02:59] <holstein> maybe that wasnt cleat
[02:59] <holstein> clear*
[02:59] <holstein> i was saying
[02:59] <holstein> im pretty sure Vbox on 32bit
[02:59] <holstein> can run 64bit
[02:59] <holstein> not that you would want to
[02:59] <Red-Raven> yah but apparently my processer doesn't support 64 bit VMs.
[03:01] <Red-Raven> yet it is a 64 bit processor. go figure.
[03:02] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: Are you running 64-bit Ubuntu?
[03:02] <Red-Raven> yah.
[03:02] <Red-Raven> im in win7 right now if thats what you meant.
[03:02] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: Um, is it 64-bit Win7?
[03:03] <Red-Raven> yup.
[03:03] <holstein> no sure how Vbox runs on win
[03:03] <holstein> not*
[03:04] <aveilleux> holstein: Exactly the same?
[03:04] <Red-Raven> i think you have to enable virtual hardware in BIOS and because my processor doesn't support that, it won't work in any OS.
[03:06] <holstein> aveilleux: i have no first hand experience
[03:06] <holstein> so i can only speak for it running in linux
[03:06] <aveilleux> holstein: It runs exactly the same on both OSs
[03:06] <holstein> and say that you should be able to run a 64bit guest
[03:08] <holstein> aveilleux: what do you think the problem is then?
[03:10] <hakimsheriff> FREE "POWERED BY UBUNTU" STICKERS on www.system76.com
[03:10] <holstein> hehe
[03:10] <hakimsheriff> sorry wrong channel, my bad, really sorry
[03:11] <Red-Raven> um, ok.
[03:11] <hakimsheriff> i wanted to say this on ubuntu-qc
[03:11] <holstein> i think system76 links are appropriate anywhere, anytime
[03:13] <Red-Raven> shiping?
[03:18] <JackyAlcine> cprofitt: Since you left; I've been dd if=/dev/zero my hard drive. =/
[03:18] <st33med> I accidentally your hard drive
[03:19] <cprofitt> you wiped it clean?
[03:19] <Red-Raven> O.0
[03:20] <cprofitt> well... I guess it depends on what your of was
[03:21] <cprofitt> JackyAlcine: still might be able to recovery some data, but that depends on how long you ran the dd command and how many passes
[03:21] <Red-Raven> oh you didn't mean to?
[03:24] <JackyAlcine> cprofitt: It's 320 Gbs, technically the entire drive shouldn't be clean, my math said it'd take 19 hours.
[03:27] <JoeMaverickSett> JackyAlcine: what? you dd-ed your drive? what was the purpose of doing it? :o
[03:27] <Red-Raven> how do i tell if an ISO is 64 or 32 bit? i did use google.
[03:27] <cprofitt> then you can try to recover data from it
[03:28] <JackyAlcine> cprofitt: I will.
[03:28] <holstein> Red-Raven: its not in the label?
[03:28] <cprofitt> you could install testdisk
[03:28] <holstein> i686 or something?
[03:28] <cprofitt> and use testdisk or photorec
[03:28] <holstein> amd64
[03:28] <Red-Raven> not in the Backtrack or xPud ISOs.
[03:29] <holstein> id say, if you didnt do anything special to look around for a 64
[03:30] <holstein> they are 32
[03:30] <Red-Raven> sorry. i don't get what you're saying.
[03:31] <holstein> me?
[03:31] <holstein> im saying they are 32
[03:31] <Red-Raven> oh they only come in that? thx.
[03:31] <Red-Raven> GTG. cya tommorow.
[03:44] <st33med> Hi bodhizazen! :)
[03:46] <AbhiJit> hello and good morning all
[03:47] <cprofitt> night all
[04:13] <bodhizazen> 'lo st33med
[09:21] <bioterror> Commodore64, are excited about the new ones which are coming? ;D
[09:22] <bioterror> Commodore64, http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64.aspx
[09:23] <MichealH> Hai bioterror
[09:23] <bioterror> hi
[09:23] <MichealH> I did something for Ask Ubuntu :)
[09:26] <MichealH> I have a Bot which get the RSS feed of Ask Ubuntu and prints it out in #askubuntu
[09:26] <MichealH> :)
[09:26] <Commodore64> bioterror: hi ! excellent ! thanks !
[09:33] <MichealH> Commodore64, Daniel0108: Intrested in something im doing? :)
[09:33] <Daniel0108> yes why? MichealH ;)
[09:33] <Daniel0108> I meant what are you doing, MichealH :P
[09:33] <MichealH> Daniel0108, Do you get involved in askubuntu.com? :)
[09:33] <MichealH>  /join #askubuntu :)
[09:34] <MichealH> It ouputs new questions there
[09:54] <moto_> need help. ubuntu not booting. can access only windows now.
[09:56] <Commodore64> bioterror: is it running linux by default ?
[09:57] <moto_> need help. ubuntu not booting. can access only windows now.
[09:57] <moto_> can anyone help me out with it?
[09:57] <MichealH> !patience | moto_
[09:57] <MichealH> :)
[09:57] <ubot2> moto_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[09:59] <hajour> sometimes it takes some time for someone answers moto_ :)
[09:59] <moto_> yea...apparently...
[10:00] <moto_> makes me think...I shouln't have gone tinkering with ubuntu....
[10:00] <moto_> twas working so fine...
[10:00] <JoeMaverickSett> moto_: could you explain how you installed ubuntu or windows?
[10:00] <ChrisDruif> There are people who say "Don't fix it if it ain't broken"
[10:00] <MichealH> moto_, Give askubuntu.com a try :)
[10:00] <JoeMaverickSett> one after another? which was installed first? moto_
[10:02] <moto_> the PC came loaded with Windows 7. (i hate it). So i installed Ubuntu
[10:02] <moto_> installed it through Win7
[10:02] <ChrisDruif> Installed it through/in Windows?
[10:02] <moto_> was working fine till i messed with the Xorg.
[10:03] <moto_> Now that you ask, I guess its IN windows?
[10:03] <moto_> but its now a dual boot option...so....
[10:04] <ChrisDruif> So you can boot it or not? (Did you remember anything called Wubi?)
[10:04] <moto_> Yes yes. thats the name. Wubi.
[10:05] <ChrisDruif> Wubi is to try it IN windows....kinda like a VM :)
[10:05] <moto_> I cant boot it. It shows the two options. if i select ubuntu. the screen just blinks and the machine restarts
[10:06] <moto_> ok...so what do i do now?
[10:07] <ChrisDruif> I have never used Wubi myself, but I hope it already created a separate partition for Ubuntu....I think you should burn the iso to a disk (or with unetbootin to usb) and properly install it :)
[10:07] <ChrisDruif> (Unless someone else comes with a better idea ( JoeMaverickSett ))
[10:07]  * MichealH coughs
[10:08] <MichealH> Hi JoeMaverickSett :)
[10:08] <moto_> oh, damn.
[10:08] <moto_> reinstall it? i would lose all data, would i not/
[10:08] <MichealH> I suggest asking @ask ubuntu :)
[10:09] <JoeMaverickSett> moto_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1631338 see if this is almost similar to your issue.
[10:09] <moto_> yea Micheal..am checking it out.
[10:09] <JoeMaverickSett> oh, hello MichealH
[10:09] <MichealH> Hey Joey :D
[10:10] <MichealH> I have a nice AskUbuntu Bot :)
[10:13] <JoeMaverickSett> moto_: btw, i suggest you do a backup before you do anything. :)
[10:13] <MichealH> JoeMaverickSett, PM? :)
[10:13] <moto_> Joe, that was it. Thanks a bunch, mate. lemme try whats suggested in it.
[10:13] <JoeMaverickSett> moto_: okie, but remember BACKUP! ;)
[10:14] <JoeMaverickSett> MichealH: sure.
[10:14] <moto_> Yes, good thing that you reminded me.
[10:14] <moto_> ;)
[10:15] <JoeMaverickSett> moto_: backups saves your life. :D
[10:21] <moto_> sorry Joe. its the frst time am using IRC
[10:21] <ChrisDruif> It's alright moto_ :) We all were using IRC for the first time one day :)
[10:23] <JoeMaverickSett> moto_: no problem. no offence taken. as there are many people here, they could chip in the knowledge to guide you more than my one brain could. ;)
[10:24] <ChrisDruif> JoeMaverickSett: o/\o
[10:25] <JoeMaverickSett> ChrisDruif: :D
[15:26] <Daniel0108> hi
[15:26] <Daniel0108> can anyone help me compiling a 32bit cURL application on 64bit?
[19:17] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[19:18] <kristian-aalborg> when intsalling ubuntu, would DBAN (for instance) be better than the default "format disk"?
[19:19] <geirha> dban?
[19:19] <starcraftman> kristian-aalborg: Do you have cia secrets to hide?
[19:19] <starcraftman> geirha: Derick's Boot and Nuke.
[19:20] <starcraftman> kristian-aalborg: if your asking is there any end result difference, no. It's a security thing. DBAN overwrites bits on the disk ensuring you can't recover them.
[19:21] <kristian-aalborg> k, I was thinking perhaps the finished installation would run smoother if DBAN was used
[19:22] <kristian-aalborg> starcraftman: CIA? Who's asking? :P
[19:23] <geirha> Ah, no that wouldn't give you any speed increase
[19:26] <starcraftman> kristian-aalborg: thou can never know for positive.
[19:26] <kristian-aalborg> so... better to nuke it?
[19:28] <starcraftman> kristian-aalborg: lol, no, not unless you do really have secrets. The standard 7pass over the disk takes quite a while to run, writes 7 times to every bit on the drive.
[19:29] <kristian-aalborg> ok
[19:38] <mslovette> good morning/afternoon/evening as the case may be... I have a question about ubuntu server... anyone have a couple of minutes?
[19:38] <geirha> good <one of those>. Just ask away, if somebody knows, they'll answer.
[19:39] <mslovette> well.. is a simple one and related to presentation... it has been a very long time since I handled a UNIX command line interface.. is there a means of implementing a GUI on top of the server?
[19:40] <geirha> Yes, you can just install gnome or kde or xfce or lxde or whichever you prefer.
[19:41] <mslovette> ok... will investigate further. thx
[19:41] <geirha> You want to control it graphically, remotely?
[19:41] <mslovette> I can run the server from the command line... but I'd like the ability to visit web sites for documentation research
[19:43] <drew212> how do i check what packages a PPA has, preferably using the terminal
[19:43] <mslovette> since I hav eretired, I no longer have the lucury of being able to go out and build extra systems that I can 'play with'... so I need to be able to do a great deal of work from one or two systems.
[19:43] <geirha> Well, the standard ubuntu desktop uses gnome, so installing that should give you something familiar if you have used ubuntu desktop.
[19:44] <geirha> Also, there are text-based browsers, like  w3m, lynx, links
[19:44] <mslovette> supposing I install Gnome... I'll have all server controls from a terminal window?
[19:45] <geirha> drew212: Hm. Should be possible with aptitude, not sure how. The documentation is a bit long, but if you're not afraid of reading, look at /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README
[19:46] <duanedesign> hello geirha
[19:46] <geirha> mslovette: Yes, you'll be able to do run all the same commands from a terminal as from the console.
[19:46] <geirha> *terminal emulator (like gnome-terminal or xterm)
[19:46] <geirha> duanedesign: Hi :)
[19:47] <drew212> geirha: thanks, i'm still looking online... there has to be an easy way
[19:53] <duanedesign> drew212: in Software Center you can click on a PPA and it will show you the packages available from that PPA
[19:53] <drew212> yeah... thats what i ended up doing... but that's so inefficient =(
[19:54] <duanedesign> not sure about the command line...This is kinda interesting, though not exactly what you are looking for. A list of all PPAs on Launchpad http://ppa.launchpad.net/
[19:56] <geirha> aptitude search '~O ppaname'  seems to do the trick
[19:56] <geirha> ppaname is a regex
[19:57] <geirha> aptitude search '~O transmissionbt'   gives me all the packages in the transmissionbt PPA at least
[19:59] <duanedesign> ahh cool
[20:01] <duanedesign> drew212:   I found a package called 'PPA Search'. YOu type 'ppasearch APPLICATION' and it searches  All PPAs for APPLICATION
[20:02] <duanedesign> though geirhas command seems to do the trick
[20:10] <Daniel0108> hi duanedesign ;)
[20:19] <duanedesign> hello drew212
[20:19] <duanedesign> oops
[20:19] <duanedesign> hello Daniel0108
[20:19] <Daniel0108> hi duanedesign ;)
[20:19] <duanedesign> :P
[20:19] <Daniel0108> let's go to #ubuntu-beginners-team ;)
[20:25] <toshey> hi...I need some help with installing vspace on my system....I get the message: dependacy is not satisfiable:libqt4-qt3support
[20:40] <kristian-aalborg> ok, so to remove absolete kernels... I simply do "uname -r", then remove anything else than what I'm shown in synaptic?
[20:43] <geirha> kristian-aalborg: A quick and dirty way to get all the installed kernels except the last two, is   aptitude search -F %p '~i linux-image-[[:digit:]]' | head -n -2
[20:44] <kristian-aalborg> that exact line?
[20:45] <kristian-aalborg> or should "digit" be something else?
[20:45] <geirha> read -d '' -a pkgs < <(aptitude search -F %p '~i linux-image-[[:digit:]]' | head -n -2); sudo aptitude remove "${pkgs[@]}"
[20:45] <kristian-aalborg> ah bugger, no synaptic... this is lubuntu
[20:45] <geirha> kristian-aalborg: [[:digit:]] is a special pattern thingy that means, any one digit
[20:46] <geirha> that last command line uses some more advanced bash features
[20:47] <geirha> You can install synaptic in lubuntu if you like
[20:48] <kristian-aalborg> yes, but I'm super low on space
[20:48] <astro_> hello, can someone help me, ubuntu is constantly at 50% cpu usage.
[20:49] <kristian-aalborg> astro_: try top
[20:49] <kristian-aalborg> (the program)... might show you the culprit
[20:56]  * suprengr_ asks for a moment's silence please for his aeons old Dell Lattitide cpi... poor Latty - it was a good & fulfilling lifetime [respect please]
[20:58] <UndiFineD> my condolences suprengr_
[21:01]  * suprengr_ thanks UndiFineD 
[21:02] <geirha> Ooh, I have an old Dell Latitude (x300). Still going strong ... though a tad slow.
[21:06] <bioterror> I've killed two D600's last year ;)
[21:08] <overdrank> Still have d-400 and 540/640 running
[21:09] <kristian_> geirha: would you happen to have a script to clean up the box?
[21:18] <ChrisDruif> suprengr_: I feel your pain :)
[21:18] <geirha> kristian_: No, I do it manually like that once in a while.
[21:19] <kristian_> I found a script for it :)
[21:19] <kristian_> http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Ubucleaner?content=71529
[21:21]  * suprengr_ thanks ChrisDruif for the consideration
[21:21] <ChrisDruif> Your welcome suprengr_ :)
[21:26] <suprengr_> ;)
[21:39] <kristian_> I tend to favor ugly bash scripts... they are somewhat heart-warming ;)
[21:40] <ChrisDruif> kristian_: Like they could have been made by a human? :P
[21:40] <kristian_> yeah
[21:40] <kristian_> omg, this looks bad
[21:40] <ChrisDruif> Why?
[21:40] <kristian_> I get different results when I do a "df-h"
[21:42] <kristian_> without doing anything at all in between... it jumps up and down for /dev/sda... from 159 mb available to 170 mb available
[21:44] <ChrisDruif> df -h shows how much space is available?
[21:44] <ikt> yep
[21:47] <kristian_> this is nuts... should not happen... I removed my previous install because of a file system error, I'm starting to fear that the hdd is actually borked :(
[21:49] <techmik67> here's my question(s) http://pastebin.com/xp1DxvJt
[21:49] <techmik67> oh, and hi!
[21:52] <kristian_> hi techmik67
[21:53] <techmik67> as a n00b, the instructions i followed were over my head, but i have an irc channel i hang in for my smartphone that has some smart people in it =)
[21:54] <techmik67> i figure there MUST be a way to be sure i can return to or just boot up an older kernel....
[21:57] <ChrisDruif> techmik67: Let me get this straight...you want to try natty (11.04) already while it's still alpha afaik?
[21:58] <techmik67> i already have done so, several times.... however, i havew NEVER been able to boot an older version once i do so
[21:58] <techmik67> i end up wiping and reinstalling from usb live stick 10.10
[21:59] <techmik67> the bigger issue is why i want that.... because of the crap i had to go thru to get my usb wifi working
[22:00] <techmik67> iprefer that if i cannot get the usb wifi working in natty, to just boot bak to 10.10
[22:00] <techmik67> and not have to reformat and start over
[22:01] <ChrisDruif> There are a couple of things you could do; easiest would be using a VM. Second you could make sure that grub has a "fail-safe" with a working Ubuntu 10.10. What I would suggest is partitioning :)
[22:01] <ChrisDruif> If you don't want VirtualBox ;)
[22:01] <techmik67> i HATE vm's=)
[22:02] <bioterror> +1 for your hate
[22:02] <ChrisDruif> Alright...I don't need to persuade you to not use VM :D
[22:02] <techmik67> grub fail-safe sounds like what i was looking for... isnt that the point of saving the old headers?
[22:02] <ChrisDruif> Yeah...
[22:02] <techmik67> hmmm
[22:03] <techmik67> perhaps i miss a point where it says "xxx will be removed..." when i "apt-get"
[22:04] <techmik67> i actually have 4 versions right now... my usb stick installed from ws 2.6.35-22
[22:04] <ChrisDruif> But I think it would be easier to re-partition your disk...make atleast 3 partitions....2 for about 10 GB and one with the remaining. The last one should be your /home....
[22:04] <techmik67> i upgraded to 35-24
[22:04] <techmik67> i see
[22:04] <ChrisDruif> Natty is still in high development...you shouldn't run it as your primairy :)
[22:05] <techmik67> i know, i know... =)... i love to tinker tho =)
[22:05] <ChrisDruif> Yeah...but make sure you have a bacck-up ready :P
[22:05] <techmik67> and i'm interested to see if the usb wifi install would wqork in natty
[22:06] <techmik67> cause that was challenging, yet satisfying when i got connected at 5Ghz
[22:06] <ChrisDruif> :)
[22:07] <techmik67> dancing around screaming "linus WHO?" =)
[22:07] <ChrisDruif> And for natty support you could try #ubuntu+1
[22:07] <ChrisDruif> You wanna know why I like Linux?
[22:07] <techmik67> surely
[22:08] <ChrisDruif> It sounds like "Lin hugs" and I like hugs :D
[22:09] <techmik67> want to see something REALLY funny? my chat support session with cisco/linksys BEFORE i got help from irc =)
[22:09] <techmik67> =P
[22:09] <techmik67> nice
[22:09] <techmik67> http://pastebin.com/d08wL47j
[22:10] <techmik67> no, i didnt make that chat up
[22:11] <ChrisDruif> So....your serial is xxxxx? :P
[22:11] <techmik67> lol
[22:11] <techmik67> ok, i removed the sn and my last name =P
[22:12] <techmik67> so, mac or windows is an "updated OS" over linux...
[22:12] <techmik67> i guess
[22:12] <ChrisDruif> O:-) Indeed it is O:-)
[22:13] <techmik67> i called customer service to complain
[22:13] <ChrisDruif> PFHAHAHAHA :P :D LMAO....
[22:13] <techmik67> made them see the 2 glaring ewrrors.....
[22:13] <techmik67> errors*
[22:13] <techmik67> 1- they knoew nothing
[22:13] <techmik67> and 2-
[22:13] <ChrisDruif> This is a bit offtopic....if someone asks a question, we go to #ubuntu-beginners-team....alright? :)
[22:14] <techmik67> i ASKED to be escalated to tier2 and they didnt... thats a nono....
[22:14] <techmik67> ah,,,k
[22:14] <techmik67> HUGE list of channels
[22:15] <ChrisDruif> Yeah...
[22:15] <ChrisDruif> I've got about 6 open atm :P
[22:15] <techmik67> 4 here, now... 3 on the smartphones
[22:15] <techmik67> i mean about them
[22:15] <ChrisDruif> xD
[22:17] <techmik67> ok, thanks for the advice and the chat.... back to the attempts. =)
[22:17] <ChrisDruif> Good luck :)
[22:18] <techmik67> thx
[23:11] <ddecator> afternoon all :)
[23:15] <kristian_> hi ddecator
[23:15] <ddecator> hey kristian_, how are you?
[23:15] <kristian_> I guess I can remove language-pack-** without much risk?
[23:16] <ddecator> if you're not using that language at all, then it should be fine
[23:18] <kristian_> can I still render the occasional webpage using it?
[23:19] <kristian_> also, it's weird that these packs not went away the first time I ran localepurge
[23:20] <ddecator> i think webpages should still load fine assuming the characters/fonts are still on the system. the language packs are more for labeling menus, applications, spellcheck, etc.
[23:29] <kristian_> it's weird that it's still there when I have localepurge installed
[23:29] <kristian_> also, if some program needs one of those packs, will it be installed?
[23:29] <aveilleux> kristian_: If a language pack is required by a program then it will be installed as a dependency.
[23:30] <kristian_> good
[23:30] <kristian_> hi aveilleux
[23:30] <yax51> Hello, Does anyone know anything about running internet explorer in maverick?
[23:30] <aveilleux> yax51: Doesn't work very well... version 5.1 is the latest one that works correctly
[23:31] <ddecator> last i look ie4linux wasn't really being maintained
[23:31] <ddecator> s/look/looked
[23:31] <aveilleux> It's not
[23:32] <yax51> aveilleux: thanks....although I need 6.0 or higher for work.....
[23:32] <aveilleux> yax51: Virtualize it. That's what I do for work.
[23:32] <aveilleux> yax51: Windows 2000 is upgradable to 6, and XP comes with it
[23:32] <aveilleux> 6.1*
[23:33] <yax51> aaah so I need to run a V of windows, then use ie6....
[23:33] <yax51> *vb
[23:34] <aveilleux> yax51: Unfortunately yes
[23:34] <yax51> aveilleux: what if I don' have that option, or no windows install disks?
[23:36] <holstein> i never had great luck with wine
[23:36] <aveilleux> yax51: PM with me for a minute
[23:51] <yax51> wine serves it purpose, but I've never had much luck with it either
[23:51] <aveilleux> holstein: I've had quite a bit of luck with WINE, actually
[23:52] <holstein> aveilleux: i can get it to run
[23:52] <holstein> but doing the things that i actually need IE for
[23:52] <holstein> not usually :/
[23:54] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> My dvd drive isnt working any more how do I check to see what is wrong
[23:56] <ddecator> ZeRoDeAtH50435: could you be more specific? does your computer not see that there is a disc in there? does it not play the disc?
[23:56] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> it doesnt see their is a disk their
[23:57] <ddecator> have you tried multiple discs? it isn't just a scratched disc that it can't read?
[23:57] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yes
[23:58] <ddecator> and it was working before?
[23:58] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> trying a game dvd that worked the other day, blank cd, music cd doesnt detect
[23:58] <ddecator> have you installed any updates since then?
[23:59] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> no
[23:59] <aveilleux> ZeRoDeAtH50435: Your drive could be going bad.
[23:59] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> im going to try one thing brb