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| e01 | hello | 00:56 |
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| e01 | after dist-upgrade my natty, the indicators from panel disapearing | 00:57 |
| e01 | and the appmenu too | 00:57 |
| e01 | also i see that i have new akonadytray and nepomuk backup, whaat are they, and is the indicators will apear again with new update | 00:59 |
| Takyoji | If I'm reporting a kernel regression bug regarding USB, whereas the steps to recreating the bug is "plug in any USB device", should I answer Yes or No to "Can you reproduce this bug with a specific series of steps" | 04:39 |
| jmarsden | Takyoji: If every Ubuntu user had a bug whenever they "plug in any USB device", I think we'd all already have heard of this bug? :) I'd say yes, but in your steps, state what USB device you are actually using for your testing. | 04:45 |
| jzacsh | hi, how do i file a bug on launchpad? clicking "report a bug" brings me to a wiki page that basically shows me the only way to file a bug is based on a PID -- which doesn't make sense for my case. | 05:09 |
| jmarsden | jzacsh: Are you running software that is not in a package, and the bug relates to that unpackaged software?? Since all normally-installed software in Ubuntu comes packaged, logically it "makes sense" to provide a package name when reporting a bug. What case do you have that does not involved any package at all? | 05:14 |
| jzacsh | jmarsden: what i understood from the wiki, is that gettig to a bug reporting page means running ubuntu-bug $(pidof app) | 05:15 |
| jmarsden | jzacsh: Only if you have a crashed app involved, I think. Try ubuntu-bug name-of-package | 05:16 |
| jmarsden | For more details, man ubuntu-bug shows all the possible things you can type after "ubuntu-bug" :) | 05:17 |
| jzacsh | jmarsden: yes, i just did and it seems i couldn'td do something like `ubuntu-bug libedit python mysql php-cli` | 05:18 |
| jmarsden | Well, pick ONE package and you will be fine :) | 05:19 |
| jzacsh | jmarsden: apport-bug script isn't going to gather unnecessary meta data about that particular package? | 05:20 |
| jzacsh | this semes fairly convoluted | 05:21 |
| jzacsh | s/semes/seems/ | 05:21 |
| jmarsden | Who cares? It will report its version etc. It's a response to way to many bugs being filed against nothing in particular and being impractical to triage as a result, I believe. | 05:21 |
| jmarsden | Knowing which package the software concerned is is pretty fundamental to most good bug reports, isn't it? | 05:22 |
| jzacsh | jmarsden: agreed | 05:23 |
| jmarsden | So this is a way to "force" users to specify a package, that's all. If it also allows automated gathering of info that will help people reproduce and fix the bug, at least for some common classes of bug, so much the better. | 05:24 |
| jzacsh | jmarsden: i think "force" is a little over the top. i just watched this sh script crash | 05:25 |
| jzacsh | rightfully so, because i picked a random package (python) -- wich tried to make intelligent decisions on my behalf (rightfully so) and picked python-defaults | 05:26 |
| jzacsh | so if i submitted a bug, the breadcrum in launchpad would be "python packages" | 05:26 |
| jzacsh | which, i think is convoluted. i understnad the need for this interface. but i don't think that there should be such a black and white you _MUST_ do it this way, bug reporting system. | 05:27 |
| jmarsden | jzacsh: If you can come up with a better way to balance the need of those working on Ubuntu bugs to be able to actually work on them, and the needs of users, submit it as a blueprint on LP and see what happens :) | 05:28 |
| jzacsh | I'm 99.99% certain it will turn out a bug in launchpad, with me linking back to the thread, and causing people to readback a bunch of user's discussing how to figure out the the package in question | 05:28 |
| jzacsh | jmarsden: thanks for the help. maybe someone else will submit a blueprint, this single bug i'm trying to contribute help for is turning out complicated enough just to submit for tonight :) | 05:29 |
| jmarsden | By now you've spent more time discussing this than it would have taken to file a bug report... do you have a bug number for it yet? | 05:29 |
| jzacsh | jmarsden: i refuse to file a bug under python packages, so no. if you'd like i cna come back and tell you the ubuntu forum thread number. | 05:30 |
| jmarsden | Never mind. I don't generally spend time in the forums :) I'm not in any way anything official regarding Ubuntu, I just wanted to see what the bug really was at the end of all this discussion :) | 05:31 |
| jzacsh | jmarsden: i also don't spend time in the forums, which is why i'm also upset, i'll have to watch this time wasted in there | 05:31 |
| jmarsden | Ok... if you want to find a bug against ubuntu-bug for being hard to use, I suppose you can do that too :) | 05:32 |
| jzacsh | jmarsden: great idea! thank you for the suggestion | 05:33 |
| jmarsden | I think it's been done before, but you're welcome. | 05:33 |
| JDot | hi | 08:04 |
| JDot | hi im trying to upgrade to ubuntu 10.10and i seens like it is hung up at replacing. config,file/etc/default /grub eith new version | 08:13 |
| wolfpack | what should be done when bugs are reported in languages other than English ? | 08:32 |
| evilvish | wolfpack: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2010-December/002948.html | 09:26 |
| wolfpack | thanks evilvish | 09:29 |
| evilvish | np.. | 09:29 |
| nisshh | evilvish, eh, is it some kind of joke that on 10.10, the About Ubuntu thing tells me im using 11.04? :) | 09:32 |
| evilvish | nisshh: nah.. i guess you are just so much more special ;) | 09:32 |
| nisshh | hehe | 09:33 |
| * evilvish checks if he is special too! | 09:33 | |
| nisshh | heh | 09:33 |
| evilvish | \o/ me too!! | 09:34 |
| nisshh | evilvish, yeah, looks like someone overlooked something back at release time :) | 09:35 |
| evilvish | nisshh: i think it was something about a 'help' menu or something that was not displayed properly.. it was showing some garbled unicode symbols , that fix first landed in Natty iirc, and got backported where someone overlooked | 09:37 |
| nisshh | haha | 09:38 |
| nisshh | very smooth | 09:38 |
| nisshh | nice work backporting a fix that was version specific :) | 09:38 |
| AbhiJit | hi | 09:56 |
| AbhiJit | this bus is there since more than one year | 09:56 |
| AbhiJit | and nothing has done for it. it affects me too. i can confirm it. | 09:56 |
| AbhiJit | anyone can please mark its importance and sent it upstream please? | 09:56 |
| AbhiJit | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unhide/+bug/376891 | 09:56 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 376891 in unhide (Ubuntu) ""unhide brute" segmentation fault (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,New] | 09:56 |
| AbhiJit | <AbhiJit> hi | 09:57 |
| AbhiJit | <AbhiJit> this bus is there since more than one year | 09:57 |
| AbhiJit | <AbhiJit> and nothing has done for it. it affects me too. i can confirm it. | 09:57 |
| AbhiJit | <AbhiJit> anyone can please mark its importance and sent it upstream please? | 09:57 |
| AbhiJit | <AbhiJit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unhide/+bug/376891 | 09:58 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 376891 in unhide (Ubuntu) ""unhide brute" segmentation fault (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,New] | 09:58 |
| AbhiJit | ?? | 10:23 |
| AbhiJit | anyone there? | 10:23 |
| dreewill | AbhiJit: just ask a question | 10:24 |
| AbhiJit | <AbhiJit> hi | 10:25 |
| AbhiJit | <AbhiJit> this bus is there since more than one year | 10:25 |
| AbhiJit | <AbhiJit> and nothing has done for it. it affects me too. i can confirm it. | 10:25 |
| AbhiJit | <AbhiJit> anyone can please mark its importance and sent it upstream please? | 10:25 |
| AbhiJit | <AbhiJit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unhide/+bug/376891 | 10:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 376891 in unhide (Ubuntu) ""unhide brute" segmentation fault (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,New] | 10:25 |
| AbhiJit | dreewill, ^^^ | 10:25 |
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| dreewill | i want to look for crashes of background processes. are ther other log files than /var/log/syslog where i can see crashes? | 11:27 |
| yofel | if it's a crash in the sense of a segmentation fault, there should be a message in the kernel log, and apport should catch it if it's enabled | 11:28 |
| dreewill | yofel: thx | 11:31 |
| hjd | hi. I just marked a duplicate of bug 145600. Beyond commenting it is still present in Natty, should I add this comment as well https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#A bug that should be handled upstream ? | 15:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 145600 in gnome-art (Ubuntu) "gnome-art 0.2-6 the "Close" button in Help-> About is not working (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 2)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145600 | 15:33 |
| ElPasmo | Hi all, I think bug 693385 is ready to be set to Triaged. Can someone do it for me? | 15:47 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 693385 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "empathy shows offline contacts when I ask it not to and I expand a group with the space key (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/693385 | 15:47 |
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| daltenty | Hi. Could someone please mark Bug #695916 as wishlist? | 18:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 695916 in empathy (Ubuntu) "empathy won't allow yahoo video chat (affects: 1) (heat: 223)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/695916 | 18:36 |
| bcurtiswx | daltenty, done | 18:51 |
| daltenty | bcurtiswx: Thanks | 18:57 |
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