[00:53] histo called the ops in #ubuntu () [01:49] shcherbak called the ops in #ubuntu () === IdleOne is now known as CIASquid [02:19] full moon tonight? === CIASquid is now known as IdleOne [02:36] Currently 37% through the cycle. [02:36] Moon face is 84% illuminated. [02:36] Moon phase: Waxing gibbous [02:36] IdleOne: So, nope. [02:36] wow, more info then I needed but thank you. [02:37] We talked about moon phases and IRC activity a while back and I wrote a python script to calculate it. [02:42] yeah, I remember that [03:14] I made some improvements now: [03:14] IdleOne: Moon face is 84% illuminated. || Moon phase: Waxing gibbous || Next full moon is on Wednesday 19 January at 00:42 UTC [03:16] bah, I shouldn't print the time. Due to the wobbling of things it's not that accurate. [03:17] time is useful I guess [03:17] even if not exact [03:18] It can be off by up to a day or so. [03:18] So, useless. [03:18] ahh well then yeah [03:18] The more I compare my calculated dates to the ones published by the Navy, the more I wonder if the moon will just come crashing down next week. [03:19] can your script where the moon will hit? [03:19] Moon is ( (|||))) full! [03:19] err [03:19] can your script predict where the moon will hit? [03:19] who cares? We'll all die. [03:19] I just want to know if I am going before you [03:19] tonyyarusso: Not the morlocks. At least, that's what the new Time Machine told me. [03:20] if so I'll save you a seat on paradise [03:20] s/on/in/ [03:20] love that movie [03:20] hehe [03:20] IdleOne: uh, isn't the diameter of the moon greater than the distance between us? [03:20] 250km?> [03:21] I don't think so but I really don't know [03:21] 250000* [03:21] It's like a factor of 100 [03:21] IdleOne: the moon's diameter is 3,500km. Where are you? [03:21] er, sorry, wrong question. [03:21] and the distance to earth is? [03:21] It's 100x the diameter of the moon *to* the moon [03:21] how is the distance to earth relevant? [03:22] ohhh [03:22] tonyyarusso: He's just assuming you're antipodal [03:22] I read that wrong [03:22] yeah, you are right [03:22] so we are both screwed [03:22] heh [03:23] yup [03:23] well least everybody else is also, makes me feel a little better [06:02] !oneko [06:02] oneko is the cat of cats, the loler with minnions, the sudo apt-get installable one, the cat of our times, but not the cat of the command line! [06:03] what minnion is [06:05] oh, minion. [06:05] I assume it means minion [06:05] bah, yeah [06:06] !oneko =~ s/nn/n/ [06:06] I'll remember that rww [06:06] my most valuable factoid contribution yet. [06:52] rww, hrm, oneko messes my cursor up [06:52] it makes highlight an x rather than a pointer [06:53] so when i highlight a taskbar thing, or an email subject, it's an x [07:01] heh, merely opening the appearance dialog fixes it. [07:11] Your scripts are all wrong. It feels like a full moon :( [07:13] nah, it's just the time of year. [07:13] only 3 weeks (i think) until the schools take them back. [07:13] our district's back at school already. you all should get a move on :( [07:14] it's also our summer holidays, and it doesn't last for 3 months so quit yer bawlin [07:14] oh [07:14] stop doing seasons wrong, it confuses me [07:14] lol [07:43] beginer is trolling. [07:43] indeed [07:44] just did the same shtick in ##linux [07:52] thats 3 channels kotya has hit now. -ru #ubunut , and ##windows [07:52] err #ubuntu [07:53] thanks for the headsup [08:11] viva la teipei [08:21] huh, that actually worked. [08:21] * rww flexes at newfound power of lazy-quiet [08:42] well, he gave you 2 seconds... [08:49] Spicemaster: Hi. Anything we can help you with this time? [08:49] rww: yes can you unbanned me with some circumstances [08:50] no [08:50] q_a_z_steve: Hi, how can we help you? [08:50] thanks [08:52] also, spaceghost being creepy in pm [08:53] yeah, the club people are being stupid again. [08:53] SpaceGhost and Anastasius get weird about you still :\ [08:53] yeah [08:54] sorry. Auto join. [09:02] Any objections to !forget atroll (and its aliases)? Damn thing is never used properly :( [09:06] doooo iiiiiit [09:08] !-atroll [09:08] atroll aliases: trolls, trolling, troll - added by ompaul on 2008-02-24 19:37:23 - last edited by Flannel on 2009-06-24 20:56:03 [09:08] !forget trolls [09:08] I'll forget that, rww [09:08] !forget trolling [09:08] !forget troll [09:09] !forget atroll [09:09] !-atroll [09:09] yay. [09:12] !troll [09:12] thank goodness [09:13] * rww ponders brown_boar/TurmptTarp [09:13] wonder if he is blackbear [09:16] whois on both their IPs is uninformative, but doesn't match. who knows. [09:17] although the MO is different, in that brown_boar is not a conspiracy nut, so I doubt it. [09:17] rww: format_identify has made me realize just how strong the corrolation is between "unidentified" and "rambles endlessly about stupid stuff, makes no sense whatsoever, and uses !enter far too much" [09:18] tonyyarusso: hence my occasional ramblings about /mode #ubuntu-offtopic +r [09:18] but yes, I use the ratio of red nicks to green nicks as an indication of how stupid channels are at a given time. [09:22] i like the idea of -ot +r. but it would make it harder to move offtopic chat away from #ubuntu. "please join -ot" is nicer than "go away" :) [09:22] indeed :( [09:23] "please join #ubuntu-you-are-annoying" :P [09:23] no +r there! [09:23] thought that was #ubuntu [09:23] The obvious solution to this is #ubuntu-offtopic-unregged, which will feature a 10 question quiz on Ubuntu to weed out the non-users. Anyone answering a question using more than one newline fails automatically. [09:23] I will propose this to ubuntu-irc@, and expect it will be approved by all. [09:23] awesome [09:24] haha [09:25] might as well set up the bot to challenge people to the quiz every three months, and kickban them if they fail! [09:25] This is a bad idea. Opping in there destroys brain cells. [09:25] despite the significant intellectual stimulation that the current topic is giving us. [09:26] In ubottu, co3dm said: soory my english is bas [09:27] who said ops would have to take the quiz? [09:28] !fr > co3dm [09:28] * rww notes topyli's typo ;( [09:29] :( [09:29] would never make it if i found my glasses :( [09:29] tell #ubuntu-offtopic you'll pay them money to find your glasses [09:29] heh [09:30] i'm gonna laugh when they're in the fridge and you get $5 [09:30] damn [09:47] so he's the ma co stalker then? [09:47] whowhat [09:47] oh. huh. [09:47] i use to feel the same way back when me and Mackenzie first met. [09:50] also note the ident [09:50] he's being awfully evasive as well [09:54] if we're thinking of the same stalker, same client, different IP [09:54] although they're now on yet another IP :\ [09:55] "reboot" :\ [09:55] indeed [09:55] but from the sound of it, they're talking about someone they know IRL? iono. [09:57] someone googled me, cute [09:58] guys... [09:58] topyli... [09:58] ah thanks rww [10:01] i doubt ademan realises who the photo is [10:02] was away, sorry [10:03] money is on a club creep [10:04] now it's a name given to him 'by other people'. he doesn't know her at all. case closed i think [10:04] topyli, see his lin [10:04] k [10:04] @random opabuse opabuse leniency [10:04] i did [10:04] leniency [10:04] goddamnit [10:05] not that that will help at all, what with the proxyfying, but whatever. [10:06] something has transcended in offtopic and i don't understand why [10:06] do you have +qs [10:07] brown_boar, hmm? [10:07] I was +q'd it shows on my client [10:07] Oddly, my client thinks I set a +q, then deopped, then opped. Gotta love lag. [10:08] may i make a suggestion? fix your client and then return to your duties. [10:08] i use chatzilla for example because it is simple [10:08] I think it's freenode's fault, actually. [10:08] im pretty sure we've never met, brown_boar. why would you show a photo of me claiming it's someone else? [10:09] i mixed up your names. but i promise your name and macos crossed for a different reason [10:09] right, so you are maco's stalker. [10:09] brown_boar, maco ? [10:09] this is rather unsettling [10:10] get. out. [10:10] this picture was obtained through a source i thought is legit [10:10] i am afraid you are not seeing the larger picture [10:10] this was admiration only. [10:10] oh, i am. you're stalking people. bye. [10:10] rww. upgrade his q [10:10] with the note that I previously made about proxy servers, I agree [10:11] yeah, evasion though. [10:11] makes it easier [10:11] so I called it. [10:12] sleep time. have fun with the fallout :( [10:12] i doubt that it's her ex. he shows in -women first usually [10:13] but it is a creepy creep [10:17] he's been known to recruit friends to do his dirty work though [10:18] http://paste.ubuntu.com/554309/ just now via PM in response to don't paste here comment in #ubuntu (some random linux link he posted) [10:20] nice [10:21] how much longer do we have to put up with him? [10:22] topyli: Ended up giving creepmeister !appeals, so... have fun with that if it happens. [10:22] um, thanks. i guess :) [10:23] bazhang, you are an op in #u though... [10:47] elky, yep, thus the "hmm" as I opped and deopped [10:47] why didn't you remove him then? he's harrassed numerous of the ops team now [10:48] elky, it was via PM only, and my understanding was that he was not disrupting the channel, so like any other user I can /ignore him [10:49] well no, because he thinks you're not an op and he's treating you like that? who else is he treating like that? [10:49] probably lots of people [10:49] true, but we would need complaints from them [10:50] no, not in this case. he's demonstrated his temper here. [10:50] topyli, your thoughts? [10:53] i agree with bazhang re: /queries [10:54] normally i do too. [10:54] but this guy is rather exceptional. he attacks /everyone/ [10:54] and has so far gotten his way by doing so [10:56] so far, what i can see, our "rules" re this are making him worse and more brazen [11:23] the boar has been reading the logs. [11:23] and so has rootarded [11:23] and is now PMing me. [11:24] which one? mr. root? [11:24] yes. [11:25] i don't particularly want to be verbally abused, so i'm not responding. so he's swearing at me for not responding. [11:26] so for how long is the ircc going to let the rules put people at risk of his intimidation tactics? [11:27] which rule is the offensive one now? [11:28] the one that he's interpreting as " i can say what ever the fuck I want in PM" [11:29] the attitude in PM does count [11:29] apparently not, topyli vetoed this guy's removal from #u before because the intimidation is happening in PM [11:29] i did? [11:29] i agree with bazhang re: /queries [11:30] oh yes [11:30] woo, now my name is apparently heifer. [11:30] anyway, the council cannot really strech the charter to cover people's personal communications [11:31] the council is expected to protect it's ops, or the council will face an op shortage. [11:31] however it's useful to know if users are abusive outside the channels too [11:32] this guy has several ops wanting to quit, and the ircc doesn't care enough about the ops to do something to stop that? [11:32] this guy has threatened people's families, and the ircc doesn't care enough to stop that? [11:32] then the ircc is failing. badly. [11:33] sounds like he's breaking network rules, as well as the law [11:34] he is, but we're not allowed to remove him from channels because the ircc, when appealed to by ops, fails the ops. [11:35] the ircc has been appealed to remove mr root from #ubuntu? [11:35] yes. [11:37] i'm not going to handle individual #ubuntu bans, i'm not an op there or even *in* the channel. i simply answered your question about pm with my own opinion [11:37] the "ops" as a team have not appealed the council about this user at all [11:38] individual ops /have/ appealed to the council. if you need a memorandum signed by every member of the ops team then the ircc is epicly broken. [11:40] i'll try to find the appeal. i'll discuss council brokennes elsewhere if you don't mind though [11:42] i am going to put myself on a limb and remove the harrasser from #ubuntu, rather than wait for a committee decision on this, since in the interim he'll have the opportunity to continue this regime of intimidation. [11:43] in a general note, we cannot ignore hostility towards any person, wether it's in our channels or PM [11:43] elky: please do [11:44] done. [11:45] well, it seems he removed himself, i've ensured difficulty in his return. [11:45] I'd remove him and keep removing him if overruled until I lost my privileges. Screw that crap [11:45] Once he was banned from every channel I had access in I could then ignore him and be alright [11:46] Amaranth, yeah not a good way to get on the ircc though, which i'm a candidate for. [11:46] not a good way for anyone [11:47] Amaranth: that's what we can do as ops. a few users are already banned from all channels, and other such users will unlikely show up [11:47] It would be cathartic though. [11:47] elky: I'd say it would help, you're willing to put practicality above the current interpretation of the rules [11:47] er, likely and unfortunately got consolidated somehow there :\ ^ [11:48] Your poor little finnbrain. [11:48] not poor, frugal! [11:48] * Tm_T huggles all [11:48] woo! it's down to 22'C [11:48] i might get a decent sleep tonight. [11:49] i've also forgotten to eat and am drinking strong g&t. I should fix that... [11:49] woo, I did that at the bar last night [11:49] had a few drinks, realized I hadn't had dinner, payed a ridiculous amount for food at the bar [11:49] Then I left anyway [11:50] ate in vain :( [12:00] bar food is never worth it [12:05] wtf, boar is still PMing me nonsense [12:07] for example? [12:08] rockos modern life! [12:08] oh noes! did he put food on your family! [12:08] he's reading the scrollback of here [12:13] whats the ircc email ? [12:13] getting banned for PM is wrong [12:14] the ircc has already stated this [12:14] !appeals [12:14] If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page. [12:14] r00t4rd3d, ^^ [12:17] community-council@SPAMFREElists.ubuntu.com [12:17] is that correct ? [12:17] r00t4rd3d: you should contact IRCC first though [12:18] the council has already said pm's dont count [12:18] r00t4rd3d: did you contact the IRCC? [12:18] r00t4rd3d: please contact the IRCC on this email address first: irc-council@lists.ubuntu.com [12:24] "elky this guy has threatened people's families" [12:24] I must have missed that somewhere [12:24] care to explain ? [12:26] You threatened, following a heated exchange, to go to an op's house and "visit" his kids. I'm pretty sure arizona has seen the effect of such violent rhetoric in the past week. [12:26] It will not happen on my watch. [12:26] he invited me for diner [12:26] No, he did not. [12:27] and how is that a threat ? [12:27] Yes , Yes he did [12:27] told me he would shave for the occasion also [12:27] It's as much a threat as "don't retreat, reload". [12:28] you take us for stupid. i recommend you don't do so. [12:28] dont try that shit with me [12:28] thats a threat [12:28] what you going to do if I do ? [12:28] enough of this [12:29] I'm going to leave the ban there if you do. [12:29] r00t4rd3d: feel free to contact IRCC [12:29] elky you but your nose in everyones business [12:29] always talking shit about people [12:29] but NEVER to them [12:29] r00t4rd3d, it's my job as an op. [12:29] oh its your job to talk shit about people nice [12:29] add that to my email [12:30] Tm_T, thanks. [12:30] I advise all who witnessed this and agree to me to also email the IRCC. [12:30] I lose my hope on IRCC if they don't see what he's up to [12:31] And CC, since I'm pretty sure any email from him will be CC'd. [12:31] it already has [12:31] popey, he's alreaddy hit the cc? [12:31] to ircc & cc yes [12:32] :D [12:33] popey, well, you've seen this, you can judge whether I did the right thing. [12:33] that'll do it for now [12:33] now in -ot [12:33] bazhang, oh, i'm sooo surprised. [12:34] notice to everyone here, I think the ircc would like to see any PMs you've had from that individual since he appeared on our radar. [12:37] popey, oh btw, did you see, your cookiemonstar photo of me from sevilla is getting milage :( [12:39] now he's in -uw [12:39] er, u-w [12:41] and apparently he's now joining every ubuntu channel with more than a dozen or so users [12:42] * Tm_T sees batsignal in the sky [12:43] even one's im not in. yeah. it'd be nice if we had a group to keep watch for this sort of behaviour. [12:43] good thing we have our cabal channels [12:44] we do? [12:44] ssshhhh [12:47] because i could really use one right about now. [12:48] exactly my point [12:49] i hate it when you do that. [12:51] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (induz appears to be abusive - 4.5) [12:52] ... [12:53] Could it possibly tell us /where/> [12:53] it's in #ubuntu [12:53] it reacted to the non-latin alphabet or something I guess [12:54] Yeah, but it doesn't actually say, and i can't actually see it... [12:54] hindi [12:54] oh i see now, i had to scroll way up [12:54] oh, it's indus? [12:54] induz [12:55] I mean is induz = indus? [12:55] one assumes it's indus. does he have a current ban or is he trying to be cl3v3r? [12:56] no idea, nor I have capability/knowhow to check bans currently [12:58] doesn't appear to be banned [12:59] doesn't mean he's not evading one somewhere else he's earned one though [13:04] elky: no? [13:04] popey, to what are you responding with that? [13:04] 12:37:16 <+elky> popey, oh btw, did you see, your cookiemonstar photo of me from sevilla is getting milage :( [13:05] oh, the boar person linked to it after talking about his obsession with "mackenzie" [13:05] in -ot [13:06] the moon is full in one of the alternate universes, im sure of it. [13:07] we have some right nutballs in this community [13:07] what about the left nuts? [13:07] I am no nut! [13:07] Tm_T, no, you're a raisin :] [13:08] <3 === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [13:11] elky: Got a link to this cookie monster picture? :) [13:11] popey, yeah. [13:24] Removed him from -women. Getting PM's about promises to continue stalking me. [14:46] Why am I devoiced on #ubuntu? [14:47] Nobody has the voice setting in #ubuntu. [14:47] What is the message you're getting? [14:47] It says #ubuntu: cannot send to channel Therefore, I am devoiced and everybody else is voiced. [14:48] I want to help fix somebody's problem and I can't speak in that channel. [14:48] * jjovereats is devoiced from #ubuntu [14:49] it means you're muted. everyone is devoiced. [14:49] Why? [14:49] don't know yet [14:50] WTF man kline me if you really think I overuse /me [14:50] eh? do you know somehthing I don't? [14:51] I have a gopher server. [14:55] Is it because I am unregged? [14:55] jjovereats, apparently you were being obnoxious in the channel by telling people to kill themselves, calling people "mad" and generally criticising everything everyone said. [14:56] * jjovereats goes insane after you say that. Kill me. [14:56] Obviously you haven't learned to stop yet. I see no reason to let you speak there. [14:56] Well then send me a Unix virus. I don't care now! [14:57] Not in the mood for this crap. [14:58] should never be in that mood [14:58] bazhang, he's one of yours. I'll let you decide if you want to flip the q a few times. [16:40] http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6672/50029079.jpg [16:40] nom nom nom nom [16:48] meh [16:48] also [16:49] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from amanda_) [16:51] solved ^^ === marienz_ is now known as marienz [17:38] is bshellz banned in #ubuntu ? [17:40] athiest_monk: appears so [17:41] probably due to abuse from users on that host [17:41] appears so what ? [17:41] IdleOne: plz unbanned me i want to keep clean this host [17:42] i am not banned there but i find bshellz ban there lolz [17:42] IdleOne: a humble request for you sir [17:42] athiest_monk: that host is a consistent problem. it will not be unbanned. try connecting from a different host. [17:42] I don't feel confortable removing the ban [17:43] hmmm a few users use bshellz may be some idiot use it for its abusing purpose [17:43] I was about to set an exempt but your humble request made me reconsider. sorry. [17:43] but unbanned it let see [17:44] ok what ever you want IdleOne [17:44] :) [17:44] bye [17:52] IdleOne: For what it's worth, I wouldn't set an exemption unless they register their nick first - a little hassle and assurance for both sides. [17:53] tonyyarusso: I'll remember to check nick info in future, what really stopped me was the "humble" reminded me of alabd. [20:39] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1567 users, 3 overflows, 1570 limit)) [20:39] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1573 users, 3 overflows, 1576 limit)) [20:39] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1575 users, 6 overflows, 1581 limit)) [20:39] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1575 users, 6 overflows, 1581 limit)) [20:42] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1592 users, 13 overflows, 1605 limit)) [20:44] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1610 users, 11 overflows, 1621 limit)) [20:46] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1621 users, 11 overflows, 1632 limit)) [21:01] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (17)) [21:01]