[00:00] however I don't fixup mainboards on wood pannels === wodi5_ is now known as guest9187 [00:31] hello all. [00:31] how do I downgrade my PHP installed version to 5.2 and force it to stay @ 5.2? apparently, 5.3 breaks everything === jeeves is now known as jeeves_moss [00:33] hi guys. how do you set a machine date to UTC? now it's on GMT and I have two servers, but the dates on them differ by 1 hour.. which is causing problems.. [00:34] GMT and UTC aren't an hour apart. there's a chance your problems lay elsewhere [00:35] shauno: no no, I'm on the swedish date, which is +1 [00:35] so one of my servers has the swedish time, another has the GMT time.. and now I need to sync them [00:36] ah, ok. tzselect should walk you thru picking a zone [00:37] tell a lie, that appears to be user-level. seems you want dpkg-reconfigure tzdata [00:37] jolly joööy [00:37] ah yeah, thanks a lot [00:38] (or just edit /etc/timezone). I don't change timezone often, so a little rusty :) [00:39] shauno: no no, reconfiguring tzdata worked fine :) thanks a lot === bastidra1or is now known as bastidrazor [00:55] hello all. [00:55] how do I downgrade my PHP installed version to 5.2 and force it to stay @ 5.2? apparently, 5.3 breaks everything === ogra is now known as Guest35747 [01:02] New bug: #687635 in hundredpapercuts "No easy way to make Samba shares permanent" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687635 [01:24] Problem, The volume Filesystem root has only 895MB disc space remaining? [01:26] jeeves_moss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto and read the part about holding. [01:26] jmarsden, I need to know the package name though to be able to pin it [01:26] guest9187: Why is that a problem? How much free space do you *need* in / [01:27] jeeves_moss: dpkg -l | grep php will display all of them related to PHP :) [01:27] thanks. [01:27] jeeves_moss: You're welcome. [01:28] it's only showing up with 5.2 [01:28] *5.3 [01:28] jeeves_moss: well, because right now you have 5.3 packages installed, right? So first install the older ones, then hold those :) [01:29] jmarsden, ok, thanks. all I know is that 5.3 broke everything. [01:29] jeeves_moss: I'd be interested to know why, it works for most people :) [01:29] most of the stuff I have dosn't work with 5.3, and the devs are scrambling to fix it [01:30] jmarsden, have a look @ moseley.ca/crm/ and/or www.moseley.ca/project/ [01:31] So: why are you displaying errors to the user on a production site? Turn that off, run, then read your apache logs and fix each bug reported in them. That's not "breaks everything", that's "I didn't configure PHP for a production server", I think? [01:32] is thier a app to create a raid 1 software raid 1 in ubuntu-server [01:32] jmarsden, lol, this is my personal box, and I crashed 8.04 during an upgrade, so this is a long process of "fixing" everything [01:32] mrothhh: The installer can do that :) [01:32] for the data drive [01:32] after you install the OS [01:33] lol, thank god all my web data/databses were on another drive [01:34] mrothhh: You can use mdadm to create RAID arrays on a live system, yes. It's not as easy and pretty as doing it at install time, but works exactly as well once you are done. [01:35] mrothhh: udisks can do that, or you can do it "manually" with mdadm [01:35] does udisk still use mdadm [01:35] k thanks [01:36] jmarsden: It was a Warning pop-up i got. Dont know how mutch free space i need. Just done a new installation of Ubuntu. After a while a got this again [01:37] guest9187: If you installed with only a single partition, so *everything* is on / then it is maybe a bit low... this *is* a server, right? So you know enough to manage a server, and define partition sizes, etc? That "popup" sounds like you are running Ubuntu DEsktop, in which case this isn't really the right place for you to be asking for help with that. [01:39] jmarsden: Wrong channel. Sorry, thanks anyway! [01:40] guest9187: No problem. If you are running a desktop version of Ubuntu, you should try asking in #ubuntu . [01:41] Hmmm, jeeves_moss disappeared... [01:41] * jmarsden decides that since I'm answering questions, I should /back [01:42] jmarsden: But this desktop is running like i server whitout my premission. [01:43] guest9187: How so? It runs software you did not install? That would be strange indeed. [01:45] jmarsden: I got that answer on a site that my computer was running like a server. Not a installed Ubuntu-server. [01:46] were do I get udisk [01:46] guest9187: You are not making sense. A machine you installed Ubuntu Desktop on will have a GUI and act like a desktop machine. [01:46] mrothhh: sudo apt-get install udisks # the s matters [01:46] and it cli [01:47] k will do [01:48] mrothhh: There is a corresponding udisks-doc package you may also want to install and read. And of course it is command-line based, this is #ubuntu-server :) [01:49] thanks [01:49] I see [01:58] is thier a webbased samba tool for ubuntu server also [01:58] swat is th eone [02:00] mrothhh, webmin [02:00] ahh and since I vpn to my network at home [02:00] I can bulid a frontend [02:00] with links to all my webapps === IdleOne is now known as CIASquid [02:19] If I'm configuring postfix on my server, what would the mail server be? I just need to send out mail from my drupal installs. [02:19] I've heard before that ubuntu out of the box should send mail using phpmail() === CIASquid is now known as IdleOne [02:24] is thier any way to get drobo like raid features in ubuntu server === Guest35747 is now known as ogra === jeeves is now known as jeeves_moss [03:48] what shell should I have on FTP users under ProFTPd? I can't have the users accessing shell though! [03:51] It's been years (FTP with usernames is totally insecure, passwords in the clear, etc) but I think you used to be able to add /etc/false to the file /etc/shells and then use that for the "shell" of such users. BUT I'd suggest you reconsider using named FTP accounts, it is 2011 and the Internet is a dangerous place. We do not send passwords across it in the clear. Ever. [03:53] jeeves_moss, I think you should consider very seriously what jmarsden said. I share hist point of view. [03:53] jmarsden, I'm trying to get the logins started, then I'll move to SSH [03:53] I have some dumb web baised software that needs FTP on it (don't ask) [03:53] KurtKraut, this is what I'm getting in the log file http://pastebin.com/zWbrdPY6 [03:54] Rewrite it or find an alternative. Seriously. [03:55] well, I can't do that right now, so any "patch" ideas for the time being? [03:56] I just gave you one: add /bin/false to the bottom of /etc/shells and then set the vsftpd users shells to be /bin/false [03:56] (Oops, I said /etc/false first time -- thinko. The correct path is /bin/false ) [03:57] kk, thanks [03:57] another "patch idea" would be to restrict FTP access to only a few knows source IPs, those of the users concerned, using iptables. [03:58] true. [03:58] I think I should just rip this server apart and start fresh [03:58] it's a serious mess, but I don't have the time to screw with it [04:01] jeeves_moss: If you have a decent workstation (plenty of RAM, etc.), then you could consider setting up a virtual machine within it running Ubuntu Server, configre that (taking good notes!), then when you have learned what you need to learn and the testbed works, scrap it and install the real thing, following your earlier notes carefully, either in another VM or on dedicated hardware. [04:02] jmarsden, this is true. My biggest issue is that this is the largest pile of storage that I have. I may just wait a month, and buy a 2Tb external disk, then clean the server totally off, and then start from scratch. Once that happens, then I can put stuff "away" properly instead of just trying to find space for everything [04:03] in fact, I think that's what I'm going to do. It's getting to the point where everything is a mess and needs to be cleaned up [04:04] jeeves_moss: 2TB drives have a reputation for being much less reliable than 1TB drives, at least where I work... sometimes buying the "Bleeding edge" will hurt you... do you absolutely need 2TB? [04:05] jmarsden, it won't be for a production box. I just need something large to "dump" everything on, sort through it, etc. There is a LOT of uplication on this box that needs to be sorted out. So, instead of swapping a lot of smaller drives around trying to "juggle" everything, it would be easier to just "dump" it all on one external, then sort it [04:06] OK, it's your choice of course :) [04:06] well, once it's sorted, it can go back on the smaller drive! [04:07] OK. BTW, man fdupes -- you don't need everything on one physical drive to use it... [04:08] I use fdupes for our image collection [04:09] .... and now, apparently, my NAS has dropped off-line. grrrr, today is just getting sooooo much better [04:09] screw it, to the basement I go! brb [04:45] I need some advice/Information about VNC. If I have 3 PCs running VNC and I am outside of my network and want to connect how do I choose which PC I want to connect to? Do I configure a custom port, set up a VNC server, or what? I'm not looking for the how to but just the suggestion on which path to take. [04:46] Each on a different port should be straightforward, yes. [04:47] BTW Ubuntu server does not have a GUI and so does not, generally speaking, run VNC ... [04:47] and then simply memorize each PC/port? [04:48] Sure. If you want to get fancy and set up a single gateway machine that prompts you for which PC you wish to connect to and makes a VNC connection back to the one you select... well, that might be a lot of work... [04:49] Yeah, thats what I thought. Memorizing the port seems easy. Or writing it on a card in my wallet. Thanks for the advice. [04:49] Yes. If you have three PCs, named PC0, PC1 and PC2 you can use ports 5900, 5901 and 5902 and the correspondence should be fairly easy to remember :) [04:56] how to change locale language to en_US.UTF-8? [04:58] oljas: dpkg-reconfigure locales # should do it. [05:00] it just says: Generating locales... en_US.UTF-8... up-to-date en_ZA.UTF-8... up-to-date etc. Generation complete. nothing changes, [05:01] oljas: OK, now you can edit the file /etc/default/locale to say what you want the defaults to be. [05:02] great, thanks! [05:03] oljas: You're welcome. You might need to reboot the machine for it to re-read that file... [07:18] I can't get my server to show up under shared using avahi running snow leopard [07:45] chrislabeard, using afp ? [07:54] airtonix: yeah [07:54] airtonix: I can connect to the server using afp but its not just showing up [07:58] chrislabeard, did you make a .service file ? [07:58] airtonix: yes [07:59] chrislabeard, and did you restart avahi-daemon and allow traffic on port 5353 to come and go on the ubuntu machine ? [07:59] udp [07:59] sudo ufw allow in on eth0 to any port 5353 [07:59] let me try that [08:00] I didn't know I had to do that [08:00] K did it [08:00] How long does it take to restart [08:01] I mean show up sorry [08:01] almost immediately [08:01] from the mac machine ping .local [08:02] hmm not getting anything [08:02] its just sitting [08:02] Do I need to edit my hosts file on the server [08:02] no [08:02] thats the point of avahi/bonjour [08:02] oh k [08:03] just to clarify, your ubuntu machines hostname is ? [08:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToZeroconf [08:03] labeard [08:03] so you ping labeard.local [08:03] di you restart avahi with : sudo service avahi-daemon restart [08:03] mdns is needed for .local -resolve [08:04] Yeah I added that [08:04] it should be enabled by default [08:04] is your ethernet network card in fact eth0 ? [08:04] yep [08:05] try restarting ufw too : sudo ufw disable && sudo ufw enable [08:05] okay [08:05] still not showing up [08:05] to confirm also, ubuntu machine is lucid ? [08:06] and is it desktop edition or server edition ? [08:06] its 10.04.1 LTS [08:07] Serverrr [08:07] ok, i can't remember the default status of avahi for server [08:07] the howto i pasted includes all necessary things to do [08:08] I followed a tutorial [08:08] to set up avahi [08:08] and use my server for time machine [08:12] chrislabeard, are you running a dns server that uses the .local domain ? [08:12] airtonix: nope no dns [08:12] chrislabeard, can you ping the avahi hostname of your mac machines ? [08:13] I can try [08:13] actually it looks like I can't [08:14] waht about pinging labeard.local from the ubuntu machine ? [08:14] yeah that works [08:14] ok i think you need to get bonjour running properly on your macs then [08:14] maybe first try openeing port 5353 on them ? [08:14] Well they see my other macs [08:15] then try pinging other mac .local addresses from each mac [08:15] yeah that works [08:16] did you modify /etc/avahi/avahi-daemon.conf at any point ? [08:17] I don't think so [08:17] could you pastebin it ? [08:17] Yeha [08:19] http://pastebin.com/Z3GQRbLN [08:25] Kinda weird that I can't ping the macs from the ubuntu box [08:26] indeed [08:26] but you can ping the ip addresses instead right ? [08:26] yea [08:28] does anybody happen to know where ubuntu stores the kernel headers ssource? [08:30] ohh nevermind i found them [08:31] chrislabeard, i assume this is the guide you used before ? http://www.kremalicious.com/2008/06/ubuntu-as-mac-file-server-and-time-machine-volume/ [08:32] my lepoard can,t see any "afp on ubuntuserver" names, it just don`t associate it with ip or machine name, o something like that. so i always use just %h. And try use Bounjour Browser.app it shows all advertisement on the network. [08:32] airtonix: http://denniswever.dyndns.org/blog/?p=306 [08:33] airtonix: but I think its pretty much the same [08:36] chrislabeard, 1) watch -d -n1 "tail /var/logs/syslog" 2) open another terminal window : watch -d -n1 "tail /var/log/ufw.log" 3) sudo service avahi-daemon restart 4) ping ubuntu from macs wait for fail 5) ping macs from ubuntu, wait for fail. 5) vis two log watchers for strangeness [08:37] chrislabeard, wait, that ufw watch is supposed to be something like : watch -d -n1 "tail /var/log/ufw.log | grep BLOCK" [08:38] mmk [08:40] i can't think of anything else at the moment sorry [08:40] does anybody happen to have a php-fpm init script they want to pastebin for me so i can have one too :) [08:41] I think ufw has been off this whole time cause now I can't connect ssh [08:42] sudo ufw allow in on eth0 to any port 22 [08:43] you'll probably also want to allow ports for any other services you need [08:45] chrislabeard, http://1000umbrellas.com/2010/04/29/how-to-set-up-the-firewall-using-ufw-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-server [08:46] k cool got it working [08:49] Is it sys.log or syslog.log/ [08:53] /var/logs/syslog [08:53] use tab completion to confirm it [08:55] I'm not seeing anything in the logs [08:55] when I try to ping my macs [08:55] means there are no blocked packets [08:56] does syslog show anything suspicious when you restart avahi-daemon ? [08:56] nope [08:56] joining mDNS multicast group [08:57] service "labeard" (/services/afpd.service) successfully established === chrislabeard_ is now known as chrislabeard [08:59] does your hosts section in /etc/nsswitch.conf look like : hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 [08:59] I have [08:59] files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 mdns [08:59] I should delete mdns [09:00] try it [09:00] then restart avahi-daemon [09:00] no nachos [09:01] what is the output of : sudo avahi-browse-domains [09:01] command not found [09:02] what is the lan ip of the ubuntu machine ? [09:03] 192.168.1.72 [09:03] sudo avahi-publish-address labeard.local 192.168.1.72 [09:03] sudo: avahi-publish-address: command not found [09:03] ok you're missing some avahi stuff [09:04] sudo apt-get install avahi-utils [09:04] k installed [09:05] the output of browse domains [09:05] is [09:05] + n/a n/a gateway.2wire.net [09:05] try that publish address again then try pinging the avahi hostname from the macs [09:06] nada [09:06] New bug: #703211 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.4 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus nouveau script pre-removal a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703211 [09:07] Man this is odd [09:07] i'm out of ideas at the moment then [09:07] maybe try running wireshark as well [09:08] Is there a no GUI of that? [09:08] yeah [09:09] oh a cli only version you mean ? [09:09] Well whatever I need to install on server [09:09] The one I need for server is tshark? [09:11] looks like it [09:11] tshark -i eth0 [09:11] what should I be looking for [09:11] um CNAME queries [09:11] or anything over port 5353 [09:13] What would use port 7534? [09:13] not sure [09:14] i'm getting like a million queries from 1 ip at 7534 [09:15] http://www.codealias.info/technotes/the_tshark_capture_and_filter_example_page [09:15] ahh wait [09:15] this look interesting [09:15] 220.356847 2wire_cb:93:31 -> Broadcast ARP Who has 192.168.1.64? Tell 192.168.1.254 [09:16] 254 is your router ? [09:16] yeah [09:16] I have 2 routers [09:16] essentially [09:16] arp is pretty standard stuff [09:17] K what is the avahi port 5353 [09:18] sudo tshark -i eth0 -R "(udp.port == 5353)" [09:18] Or wait is it port 548 [09:18] 5353 [09:18] since DNS is 53 [09:19] sudo tshark -i eth0 -R "(udp.port == 5353) || (tcp.port == 5353)" [09:19] Here we go [09:19] 10.0.0.10 -> 224.0.0.251 MDNS Standard query A ubuntu.local, "QM" question [09:19] http://pastebin.com/26KeF0dF [09:20] 10.376182 192.168.1.72 -> 224.0.0.251 MDNS Standard query A chrislabeard.local, "QM" question [09:20] I was trying to ping one of my macs [09:20] hoho [09:20] you had the wrong hostname all along [09:21] wait what? [09:21] my mac is called chrislabeard [09:21] ok [09:22] leave tshark running and try pinning labeard.local from the macs [09:22] I don't see anything [09:23] this is what you should see : http://pastebin.com/2dWCg51g [09:23] what is blocking my computers from talking to this computer [09:23] is port 5353 open on your macs ? [09:24] how do I check that [09:24] I don't think I have a firewall on [09:25] yeah firewall is off [09:26] unfortunately i don't have a mac to test anything on [09:26] On my router do I need NetBIOS enabled [09:26] i doubt it, thats for samba [09:27] arggg this is supposed to be so easy lol [09:28] what port does afpd work on [09:28] or whatever [09:28] afp I mean [09:29] 548 [09:29] I need to allow that port [09:29] according to http://blog.ibd.com/howto/bonjour-avahi-netatalk-to-share-files-files-between-ubuntu-10-4-mac-os-x/ [09:30] Do i really need a firewall for my local network? [09:30] I have my router's firewall [09:31] humm. [09:31] stupid question [09:31] sorry [09:32] vad are you trying to do here? [09:32] I have macs + ubuntu server + avahi running. [09:32] Okay [09:32] no issues and no need to use wireshark ;) [09:32] I just set up my server to use it for time machine [09:32] My machines are able to connect using CMD+K [09:33] but its not showing up under shared [09:34] air^ you ever have any problems with that? [09:34] @phone, brb. [09:34] ok [09:36] airtonix hey on a different topic, It looks like my isp has port 25 blocked so seems like postfix isn't working any ideas on that? [09:38] outbound? if it can't send direct due to ISP restrictions just point it at the ISP mail smarthost [09:38] How do i find out what the smarthost is [09:39] Depends on your ISP [09:39] Its AT&T UVERSE [09:39] You'd have to ask them, or check their docs for email config. [09:40] then - http://www.howtoforge.com/postfix_relaying_through_another_mailserver [09:40] ask them for their smarthost config [09:41] well, ask them what their outbound SMTP server is [09:41] K i'll try that [09:48] this look right --- smtp.att.yahoo.com [09:48] it looks like an SMTP server, I can't really say if it's right for your ISP. [09:57] looks like I'm getting an access denied [10:01] quite possibly not the correct server then, or needs authentication. You should really check === jgjones_ is now known as JGJones [10:17] Hi [10:18] SQL> select banner from v$version; [10:18] BANNER [10:18] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [10:18] Oracle Database 11g Release 11.2.0.1.0 - 64bit Production [10:18] PL/SQL Release 11.2.0.1.0 - Production [10:18] CORE 11.2.0.1.0 Production [10:18] TNS for Linux: Version 11.2.0.1.0 - Production [10:18] NLSRTL Version 11.2.0.1.0 - Production [10:18] SQL> [10:18] It doesnot show as Standard Edition [10:18] Please suggest [10:28] !pastebin [10:28] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [11:08] i'm using ssh on a remote machine, and there's a lot of network latency between me and it. is there any way to make command-line administration suck less? [11:17] StrangeCharm: a better network connection? :) [11:19] Okay; Privoxy bloody blows [11:19] RoyK, that'd be lovely, but it really just isn't possible [11:19] and not in the good way [11:19] Slyboots, try polipo? [11:19] RoyK, i was really looking for a way that makes the most of a bad situation [11:19] StrangeCharm: what sort of connection is this? [11:23] RoyK, it's a satellite connection [11:23] the remote server is actually remote [11:25] Hi [11:26] Can i ask about query regarding Oracle DB Server ? [11:26] !ask kaushal [11:26] Huh.. [11:26] Anyone seen ":afs3-fileserver" in netstat before? [11:27] StrangeCharm: The only way to properly convert from an Enterprise Edition back to a [11:27] Standard Edition is through an Export/Import operation. This way you will [11:27] get rid of all Enterprise Edition specific Data Dictionary objects, as the [11:27] SYS schema objects are not exported. The Standard Edition EXP utility is [11:27] preferred to be used to export the data. [11:27] After the Import in the Standard Edition database, you only need to drop [11:27] all user schemas related to Enterprise Edition features, such as the MDSYS [11:27] account (used with Oracle Spatial). [11:27] How do i drop all user schemas related to Enterprise Edition features, such as the MDSYS account (used with Oracle Spatial). [11:30] This is quite mysterious; I cant seem to track down what this afs-fileserver process is [11:31] And now its vanished [11:31] kaushal: use pastebin to paste multiple lines. Also, I think #oracle would be more appropriate channel to ask [11:31] ok [11:32] Hello guys, i tried installing a ubuntu 10.04 server edition on HP proliant dl385 g5p using a bootable USB. After installation, i am not able to boot into the OS. [11:33] it says "attempting to boot from c:" and stops there. [11:33] any help will be appreciated. i am new to this. [11:36] <\sh> swvist: on the usb was there the alternate installation? [11:36] <\sh> alternate installation media, i mean [11:37] nope... [11:37] <\sh> well, I never used an usb media as installation media.always used server media but more often automatic installation stuff [11:39] even i did that but it wont boot. it wont reach grub. [11:39] :-( [11:40] <\sh> well, all our hps are booting without any problems? problems with your MBR ? smartarray problems? [11:41] <\sh> just installing many HP blade servers and 365 G5 G7 / 385 G5 G5P G6 and G7 right now [11:43] I was able to run a live cd of desktop version. I installed it as well. When i reboot, it gets stuck, "Attempting to boot from c:" [11:43] <\sh> so grub is not written correctly in the MBR [11:44] So how do i fix this? [11:47] <\sh> well grub should be written at the end..it will ask you to write in into the MBR [12:15] oCean: no one is responding there :( [12:15] on #oracle [12:15] that does not make it an ubuntu issue, right? [12:15] yeah [12:16] but since this is a #ubuntu-server [12:16] I believed i will get some help [12:16] kaushal: the topic is clearly ubuntu, not oracle. Your question is ALL about oracle [12:45] I've got an upstart job that starts a game server, but when stopping this job it should send some text to stdin and wait for it to exit, how do I make this happen? [12:50] halp? [12:53] also, is the kill timeout directive in an upstart job in seconds? [13:02] i have installed several servers using usb-media [13:04] lieuwe: what game server is this? and what do you mean send text to stdin? [13:05] lieuwe: some magick with /proc/pid/fd, maybe ? :) [13:06] RoyK: it's a minecraft server, and the server software reads stdin for server commands, so I want to send it "/stop" to make it come down cleanly. [13:07] RoyK: anyway, I got a different solution in place now, so nvm. [13:07] k [15:57] Im trying to expand my partition. Is there a cli guide i can follow? [15:58] i performed a online migration of my raid 5 array and added 2 more disc into it. Now i need to find a tutorial on howto add the new space into the current partition [16:07] Doonz: using lvm? [16:08] no [16:08] Doonz: well, how else do you "expand a partition"? [16:09] wel you can resize partitions in windows with no problems [16:09] so not sure what your asking [16:09] basically my array went from 4tb to 7tb and now i just want to roll that space into the partion [16:12] Doonz: the only way i know to give space of a new disk to a partition on a separate disk is to use lvm [16:15] ok thank you [16:41] <\sh> pmatulis: parted can do a resize..but I don't know how reliable that is [16:44] Im sharing folders with ubunut 10.04 through vmware fusion, and when i boot it automatically shares it under uid 501,group dialout, i set my own fstab to mount it with different users, and it works if i umount /mnt/hgfs then mount -a but on boot it doesn't use the settings from my /etc/fstab. Any ideas? [16:45] what is the line in fstab [16:46] gobbe: .host:/ /mnt/hgfs vmhgfs rw,ttl=1,uid=unity,gid=www-data,nobootwait 0 0 [16:56] \sh: but not disk to disk [16:57] <\sh> pmatulis: raid5 gives a volume, which shows one device, so it should be possible [16:59] geekbri: but it will mount anyway on boot? [17:00] gobbe: I discovered the problem, in the vmware-tools init script that loads the mounting module, it also performs a mount [17:01] yes [17:11] \sh: right. i guess the method depends on whether he's using h/w or s/w RAID [17:12] the answer is zfs :P [17:12] :) [17:12] you can extend ext3/4 also [17:13] sure, but no block-level checksumming, no compression, no good raid solution [17:14] compression isn't really so fancy, first is the biggest feature missing [17:14] :) [17:15] btrfs has checksumming, but currently no support for raid except mirroring [17:16] gobbe: http://pastebin.com/zRaDFFZ8 ;) [17:16] :) [17:17]