=== wodi5_ is now known as guest9187 [00:31] o/ [00:50] there's a tool in the repo that automatically installs the latest version of the ati or nvidia driver [00:50] what's it called again? [01:00] Bugger. Just broke a remote server. Stupid updates to packages [01:00] Newer version of OpenLDAP breaks their NAS box logins so *poof* goes your /home folders [01:01] Silly me for wanting to update for security reasons *pah* [01:01] And the older version it depends on isn't available from the local repo either... grrrrr stupid server hosting company. [01:01] :( [01:02] * awilkins plans to nuke the thing from orbit with a re-image in the morning... good job it isn't critical or under heavy use [01:02] still horrible feeling though when its remote and your stuck [01:02] Well, yes. Wouldn't be great if it was sat under my desk to be honest. [01:03] Just makes me distrust the ability of the hosting company to provide an infrastructure that doesn't break., [01:04] You can't win - you can't get up-to-date versions of useful software (they are still on svn 1.4 - and this is CollabNet hosting, the owners of SVN!!!) [01:04] And if you take the updates that ARE available, your home folder vanishes.... [01:04] Bah. Beddybyes time. [01:24] Problem, The volume Filesystem root has only 895MB disc space remaining? [01:25] Solution, stop downloading pron [01:27] hehe [01:27] :D [01:27] I really need to get a new headset, but I can't settle on anything :( [01:28] guest9187, run baobab [01:28] see where your space is used [01:31] exobuzz: baobab ?? [01:32] http://www.marzocca.net/linux/baobab/ [01:33] comes with gnome. [01:33] might be under "disk usage analyzer" [01:37] hmmm [01:37] thought it seemed quiet in here, needed to scroll down ;) [01:39] heh [01:39] i should really start bringing vga cables to hotels with me, so i can watch movies from laptop at night === guest9187 is now known as w0dis [03:07] [Matthew Garrett] Joojoo, once more - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/132810.html [04:07] [Matthew Garrett] In other news - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/132940.html === computer__ is now known as w0dis [06:22] hi guys, just wondering about the Make Startup Disk utility... the slider for picking the documents and settings - is the value you put in there also allow for installing apps in or is it just literally how much /home you want to give it? [06:24] would I be right in thinking this? [07:59] is there any issues with 10.04 and ssd hared drive? [08:58] Aloha [09:18] anyone here got the game braid (part of humble indie bundle #2) ? [09:23] just wondering the performance on other graphics cards for comparison [10:07] there maybe a bug possibly on ubuntu 10.04 and possible 10.10 using grub2 which affects installing intel ssd hard drives === jgjones_ is now known as JGJones [10:13] in the live mode switch of apic, noapic, nolapic to boot 10.04 into live mode and carrying out an instal to the ssd hard disk after the instal process and reboot the following error msg will appear after a few minuites /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxx - does not exist dropping to a shell - the xxxxxx is the uuid number [10:13] followed by ( initramfs) udevd[76]: worker [92] unexpectedly returned with status 0x0100 [10:15] even changing options in the bios makes no difference - there is no problem installing Mandriva 2010.2 which using grub1 [10:57] Morning all [10:58] TheOpenSourcerer: howdy [10:59] How's tricks czajkowski? [11:00] TheOpenSourcerer: grand just here at surrey lug meet up [11:48] good morning [11:48] lo [11:51] If Ubuntu UK want to have a meet up /talk/demo we can use this office over the weekend [11:52] Morning [11:53] * daubers noms a yoghurt to sooth his throat [11:54] why does it need soothing? [11:54] question: used to boot up laptop and wireless would just automatically come 'on' However, now I have to connect to it everytime. Is there a way of automating this as previously? [11:54] disease? [11:54] yes livingdaylight [11:54] popey, great news! :p [11:54] livingdaylight: network manager has an 'edit connections' option and you can tick the 'connect automatically' tickbox [11:54] Morning peeps :) [11:55] dutchie: Got a swollen throat :( having no tonsils means this happens relativley frequently [11:55] * dutchie has no tonsils either \o/ [11:55] bigcalm: graze box here :) [11:55] popey, that's great to know, muchas gracias [11:55] popey: everything is back to normal :) [11:56] ya [11:56] might sit and watch Thunderbirds while doing some painting shortly [12:17] where wil I find a natty download for laptop ? [12:17] last one I got is corrupt :( [12:17] and don't have the link [12:18] Hi [12:18] alpha1 or daily? desktop image? [12:18] How do i drop all user schemas related to Enterprise Edition features, such as the MDSYS account (used with Oracle Spatial). [12:18] Alpha1 [12:18] http://www.pubbs.net/200907/oracle/76327-downgrading-to-standard-edition.html [12:19] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/alpha-1/ [12:35] afternoonings all, [12:52] gnome-shell fixed, the debian experimental package maintainers hve straightend it out.:) [13:28] hi guys, i have got a hp laptop with switchable graphic card with ati and intel. the belos post says that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics it can used with the ubuntu 10.10 which i have installed already. can any one help me with the help of the above guide how to set it up. i have switcheroo on my laptop installed already [13:28] thanks [13:35] Hi, i have a binary file which ubuntu says doesnt exist when i try to execute, i have no idea what is wrong http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/554365/ [14:05] hi guys. can any one exaplain me how to to do the steps 3 and 4 of this post http://asusm51ta-with-linux.blogspot.com/ [14:05] /5/7 [14:08] issyl0, can u help pls [14:09] ocean__: you need to copy they the script into a text filewith .h extention,and make said scriptexecutable [14:10] .sh * [14:10] brobostigon, can i save the file in the home folder then cd and make it excecutable? [14:11] ocean__: yes, make it executable with "chmod +x *.sh" [14:12] brobostigon, can i ask u few more question about this se graphics if u know. [14:12] ocean__: i know very little about graphics, i am not the man to ask. [14:13] brobostigon, thanks for your help. if i keep these two sh in home folder and make it executable are they going to be loaded on boot up? [14:14] ocean__: no, [14:14] Hi [14:14] Anyone here with Oracle DB experience [14:14] brobostigon, so what is that script going to do? [14:15] ocean__: sorry, I can't. [14:15] o/ issyl0 [14:15] ocean__: i dont understand graphics, so i dont know. however cron is you best option to have something start on boot. [14:15] That was IRC lag making my window changes screw up. [14:15] AlanBell: hey :) [14:15] are you at Rivermead? [14:17] yup [14:17] many many geeks here [14:17] Anything special at Rivermead ? [14:18] surrey lug meeting [14:18] oh ok [14:23] Any clue to my query ? [14:23] Oracle isn't in the repos! [14:24] yes [14:30] back to learning qt... [14:30] whee. [14:34] :) [14:42] hi the process "grub-probe" and "grub-pc.postinst" are frozen and they cannot be closed. help me, i need to resinstall grub or i wont be able to use this pc again! [14:53] guess i should pack, going home in a few hours :) [14:57] gord: had a nice time [15:03] czajkowski, yeah, got a lot done, ubuntu is such an exciting thing to be involved with at the moment [15:04] :) [15:04] sounds good [15:04] waiting on iso to download to install [15:08] gord: susprised you stayed past friday night [15:09] pussy [15:12] pussy [15:13] hello? [15:13] You should stop drinking that stuff. [15:13] pussy [15:13] !language [15:13] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [15:13] * Myrtti raises an eyebrow [15:14] \o/ [15:14] move along here [15:14] ABUSE OF PWAR. [15:14] don't get me started [15:14] well either that or watch the spam, take your pick [15:15] Myrtti: sorry [15:15] Afternoon kids [15:15] inappropriate spam. [15:15] czajkowski: np, I'm waiting for him to return so I can join the fun [15:15] Myrtti: ah ok thought it was because I oped up [15:16] czajkowski: oh no, I just might have kicked jpds as collateral ;-) [15:16] in other news, I was looking at prices of some knitting needles and I literally cried. [15:16] Myrtti: ahh ok, sorry for the confusion [15:16] $55 for 5 doublepointed ones... ooofff. [15:18] I wonder would today be a sushi day [15:18] Pub meal day for us. [15:19] homemade curry night here. [15:22] airplane food day :( [15:22] £10 M&S meal for two [15:22] have I missed the fun? [15:22] no kids \o/ [15:23] \o/ [15:23] * dutchie is meeting his old man in the turf tonight [15:23] * dutchie ♥ the turf [15:24] really love that you can crank the audio volume up past 100% in ubuntu, makes these tiny laptop speakers much more useful [15:26] "ubuntu goes to 11" [15:27] almost everything geeky that used to go to 10 goes to 11 these days ;) [15:27] I like bbc iplayer that goes to 11 [15:27] Re-watched This is Spinal Tap with GF last night (her 1st viewing) [15:28] Now she understands the importance of things going to 11 [15:28] hmm install is really..........not installing [15:30] hmmm nada is happening [15:37] in my highly technical opinion, it seems like that is the opposite of what you want to happen [15:38] indeed [15:38] and not I cant quit it [15:38] czajkowski: AND NOT "I can't quit it"? Surely that would imply you can? [15:39] now [15:40] boo! [15:40] chalcedony: it's probably not an error - sounds like it's just gone to emulation - emulating current fiscal policy on how much of your hard earned beer tokens you are curerently allowed to keep... nada [15:40] czajkowski: it's probably not an error - sounds like it's just gone to emulation - emulating current fiscal policy on how much of your hard earned beer tokens you are curerently allowed to keep [15:41] [sorry chalcedony[not enough tab presses] [15:41] cz surely [15:42] * dutchie braces for impact [15:43] dutchie: don't rub it in... it was embarrassing enough :D [see, low impact... no comeback] [15:43] * brobostigon arms the hydrogen fusion bomb. [15:45] * suprengr pulls blanket of embarrassment over head; growls at it & pretends nowt happened [15:45] i was actually worried about the impact from cz [15:45] she's nearer now [15:45] * suprengr runs faster than a speeding whatsit! [15:46] * czajkowski peers at suprengr [15:46] dutchie: oi oi [15:47] * suprengr cowls [15:49] no running! [15:49] Afternoon slackers [15:49] * czajkowski peers at popey [15:49] g'morfernoon [15:50] wohoo expense claim! [15:52] popey: No, we use Ubuntu. [15:54] ♥ new MasterCard - making expense claims is so much easier now [15:54] Myrtti: oh how so ? [15:56] it's attached to my bank account directly, so when I do expense claims I don't have to do magic tricks with post-it notes and scanner to cover other purchases, instead I can just go to my online bank, bring up the specific purchase and print a pdf out of that [15:57] ahh handy [15:59] i really like the global menu integration in firefox :) you realy realize how little you actually use menus [16:05] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/January%202011/IMG_20110115_160227.jpg [16:05] I clearly need more USB ports >.< [16:06] * popey spots the HTC usb cable in the middle [16:06] popey: and maybe the T-Mobile one right next to it? :P [16:07] got my HTC Desire Z and the T-Mobile G1 I gave my brother plugged in atm [16:07] android \o/ [16:09] maybe you just need less gadgets? [16:10] that's crazy talk. [16:12] ihhihihii ♥ http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/5356863413/ [16:12] Myrtti: pretty [16:12] rofl [16:12] if A&L gave me printed debit cards, It'd so have the Ubuntu logo going on it. [16:15] I'm not that geeky anymore [16:18] * suprengr is impressed: reeed ahl abaht it!: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554397/ [16:30] hmm, is there a way to set up postfix so it relays mail to multiple different servers? or is there a better tool for the job? [16:31] hmmmm [16:34] what will happen if i post my root passwd here [16:34] Why would you do that? [16:34] unadvisable. [16:34] cuz im bored i just wanna see what happens [16:35] root8, you seem to be aware of the consequences. [16:35] unaware* [16:35] just the password is useless. [16:35] the password and the IP address [16:35] yes, that is dangerous. [16:35] /whois root8 [16:35] u have my ip, its in /whois [16:35] not necessarily true. [16:36] root8: [16:36] root8: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554413/ [16:36] *yawn* [16:36] bigcalm: password [16:37] go ape sh** [16:37] but please dont get me banned from freenode [16:37] ah right, this is the fool from earlier [16:37] root8: it doesn't interest me to do so [16:37] lol. [16:37] yes Myrtti [16:37] root8: I think you are a troll. I claim my £5 [16:37] my passwd was p*ssy but i got kicked :( [16:38] czajkowski: ↑ [16:38] LOL [16:38] root8: for using bad language, yes. [16:38] no please [16:38] Myrtti: thanks [16:38] your turn [16:38] spare the kid [16:38] :( i dont mean to troll pls dont kick [16:39] * brobostigon watches czajkowski and Myrtti play around, :) [16:39] root8: what if the 1st action someone were to do was rm -rf / [16:39] ? [16:39] root8, if you're bored, go and wash the dishes in your kitchen. [16:39] learn a new skill, knitting is nice and non-violent [16:39] also productive [16:39] so is cross-stitch [16:39] nice warm clothes, :) [16:40] bigcalm: did u log in ? passwd is password [16:40] Pendulum, for a second there, i thought it was the Drum and Bass group :p [16:40] Pendulum: Yeah, but cross stitch is hard on the eye's [16:40] * bigcalm returns to his coding [16:40] DJones: I find it a lot harder on my hands than my eyes. But my hands also refuse to knit so I'm a little limited by that [16:40] if you catch the knitting bug, I heartily recommend learning the continental method instead of English [16:40] * brobostigon returns to watching star wars, [16:41] brobostigon: ooh. thanks for the suggestion. I was looking for something mindless [16:41] ♥ defense by change of topic [16:41] Pendulum: :) [16:41] Myrtti: even better is fiber-geeks :) [16:42] * brobostigon should also ideally get curry stuff ready, but cant be bothered yet. [16:44] aha, msmtp seems to do the job [16:55] Afternoon all! o/ [16:57] http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/ryanair-boarding-pass-penalty-illegal-spanish-court-rules-2011-01/ [17:02] Myrtti: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAg0lUYHHFc [17:39] * AlanBell installs openshot [17:39] * directhex is writing his FOSDEM talk [17:39] openshot is looooovely [17:39] * AlanBell quite liked directhex's blog post [17:40] AlanBell, thanks! and this time, it wasn't really directed at you or TheOpenSourcerer, since you're not remotely that far down the lunatic fringe :p [17:41] it was good stuff, agree with all of it [17:41] I am still a bit meh about mono [17:41] I'm quite liking my switch to 3 :D [17:41] AlanBell, and that's fine, as long as you don't claim it's not Free Software! [17:41] it totally is Free software [17:42] compared to the evil annoyingness of t-mobile :p [17:51] Azelphur, still stuck on a contract until the summer [17:52] directhex: I think your safe for now any way since they backtracked on their limiting plans [17:52] did you hear about the 500MB thing? [17:53] Azelphur, i heard. [17:53] I jumped ship the second I read it :p [18:00] what is a good way to record from a webcam? [18:00] can't cheese do it? [18:00] AlanBell: vlc [18:00] frame rate is rubbish from cheese when recording [18:08] openshot looks rather good [18:14] hmm, Ubuntu planet clearly needs more Jordi Mallach [18:15] Azelphur, whyso? [18:15] last 10 articles all in a row are from him xD [18:18] i guess he upgraded his blog software, and it reset the date stamp on all his posts [18:18] hehe, something like that :) [18:19] I just had a funny idea, I should find a cheap mobile ISP with a nasty fair usage policy and troll them. [18:20] every rule they set I could just continually find ways around it [18:20] I know, I'm evil. But it'd be funny :D [18:21] how so? [18:25] ali1234: just continually do everything I can to drain as much bandwith as possible [18:25] they will just rate limit you [18:25] and every time they impose a rule on me, route around the rule [18:25] even if they do rate limit you can still waste loooads of bandwith [18:26] * hamitron curses the term rate limit [18:26] ;/ [18:26] hamitron: I'm talking about taking up a contract with an ISP purely to troll them about their unlimited fair usage policy [18:26] :P [18:26] :) [18:27] don't most state the amount of data now? [18:27] ali1234: most rate limit to 128k, on 128k you can still do 300GB a month :D [18:27] * hamitron is limited to 128k now [18:27] :/ [18:27] hamitron: some do, some don't [18:28] I could open a new contract with T-Mobile when their 500MB cap comes into place [18:28] and do it to them [18:28] they have unlimited fair usage 500MB :D [18:28] :) [18:28] they don't care you know... [18:28] they just rate limit you [18:29] if you continue to abuse bandwidth and be rate limited... do they ban you eventually? [18:29] dunno [18:29] don't you usually get phone calls if you stick 300GB through a cheap £10 mobile internet? [18:29] yea that's what I'm thinking :p [18:29] my 30 day rolling download has been 64Gb of 60Gb for a week now :/ [18:29] you won;t be downloading 300GB at 5kbit [18:30] I can imagine them calling to tell me I use more bandwith than 99.9% of their customers and me saying "cool" :P [18:30] ali1234: reckon they would limit it that far? [18:30] :D [18:30] yes [18:30] hehe [18:30] 1/10th of dialup? [18:30] would be funny even to see if I could push it that far [18:31] if you are lucky they might "only" limit you to 19.2kbit [18:31] basically they switch off 3G on your account, from what i can tell [18:31] hehe [18:31] so you get basic GPRS speed [18:31] which is almost nothing... worse than dialup [18:31] nah they don't do that, they limit your 3g connection to 2g speeds [18:32] it'd be bad for them technically if they locked you to 2g carriers [18:32] because it uses more resources [18:32] at least what I heard in #android :p [18:32] is there any need for so much data transfer "on the move"? [18:32] ;/ [18:32] hamitron: tethering [18:33] but why not just use wifi at home? [18:34] hamitron: wifi isn't always available [18:34] hmmm, suppose [18:35] do most phones allow you to use wifi hotspots? [18:35] yea [18:35] cool [18:35] I sold my nokia 5230 [18:35] as it has no wifi [18:36] holding fire to see what the PSP2 / PSP Phone is like, before I decide what I may get [18:38] all your fault Azelphur [18:38] hehe [18:38] hamitron: have you seen what my phone can do in terms of games? [18:38] if I hadn't listened to you, I'd not bother getting a phone as a toy [18:38] no... [18:38] xD [18:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6_Nur_3JJw [18:39] dude [18:39] :/ [18:39] youtube on 128k.... [18:39] runs psx games? [18:39] hamitron: overclocked from 800mhz to 1.5ghz, running playstation emulator at full speed no problem [18:39] :) [18:39] :D [18:40] 800mhz is not fast enough for the emu? [18:41] it doesn't quite run at full speed at 800, but it does run smooth and playable [18:42] I'd worry about shortening the life of my phone [18:42] hamitron: it doesn't get any hotter than when you have it on charge [18:42] it gets way hotter on charge vs overclocked gaming [18:42] I assume that is the battery? [18:43] as I can't see charging using a lot of cpu [18:43] yea [18:43] and the cpu doesn't get hot when nearly double the clock? [18:43] there are no thermal sensors [18:43] :| [18:43] but the case doesn't get hot [18:44] case is hotter charging vs overclocked gaming [18:44] guess I am just a big worrier :) [18:44] hehe [18:45] I am hoping sony lock their new handheld down so much I am put off from getting one [18:45] then I can save that money and get a new pc [18:47] everything gets unlocked :P [18:47] ...eventually. [18:48] I have my PSP slim unlocked [18:48] but it is the hassle and principle [18:48] I'd never risk breaking an expensive device... [18:49] and I just cba with companies trying to restrict me in what I do [18:49] if they are making life hard work, they are not on my side and their device is not "helpful" [18:50] * hamitron takes a breath [18:55] bbl, food === webpigeon_web is now known as Guest27183 [19:57] evening [20:03] \o [20:07] Just ordered a chinese \o/ [20:08] :) [20:08] Soooo hungry, decorating all day [20:08] I had pizza and battered chips [20:09] Just wondering if anyone have a WP7 phone? Or got to play with one? [20:09] * MartijnVdS strokes his Nexus One [20:09] my preciousss [20:09] Heh...I love my Nexus One too :) [20:09] reckon it will drop in price? [20:10] :/ [20:10] WP7 or Nexus One? [20:10] or something similar will [20:10] the One [20:10] :) [20:10] Yeah price of dropped [20:10] I was willing to sell mine for only £1000. I'm now willing to sell it for the bargain price of £999.98 [20:11] :| [20:11] Get the HTC Desire [20:11] * MartijnVdS watches Top Gear [20:11] I think £50 is my budget atm [20:11] Hardware-wise it's the same as the Nexus One. The only difference is that they look different, the N1 have a trackball, Desire have a sensor, N1 have a "noise-cancellation" mic but that's it. [20:11] MartijnVdS: Not on till next week? [20:12] plus will wait see what PSP Phone is going to be === niall is now known as hacfed [20:12] hamitron, I assume a pay as you go phone? [20:12] diplo: BBC Three === hacfed is now known as hcfd [20:12] diplo: (rerun) [20:12] :) [20:12] jgjones: yes [20:13] hamitron, I did have a HTC Magic available for free to anyone but that have been given away now sorry, too late :) [20:13] Not that great mind you, it's a handicapped Vodafone version. [20:13] Magic has 2.2.1 officially from Vodafone now [20:13] jgjones: it got an upgrade last month [20:14] I'm not even sure if I want Android :/ [20:14] Heh - I upgraded that HTC Magic to Cyanogenmod the day before that upgrade was announced [20:14] But when I say handicapped - I meant that it's the Vodafone version with half the RAM (256Mb) instead of the usual 512Mb. [20:14] sure [20:15] but it has a slow CPU as well [20:15] compared to my Nexus [20:15]