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livewireHi everyone.  Is this the place for support with Xubuntu?02:36
livewireIm looking to disable my touchpad while I type on my laptop.  I cannot find any settings in here to do that.  Everytime I type something, my touchpad thinks I am tapping it.02:38
livewireAnyone in here?02:41
moetuneslivewire:  I use a script from Archwiki for that02:43
moetuneshttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Synaptics#Disable_Trackpad_while_Typing02:44
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q_a_z_steveIdleOne rww I'm just torrenting xubuntu lucid but I am confused. on http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/lucid/release/desktop/ (my reason for asking here) it shows the complete iso as being 681MB, bur the torrent file shows to be 714MB. First where does the disparity come from, and second, are they really producing iso's over 700 and expecting them to burn?08:54
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ScottLlast time i tried an xubuntu natty disc back in december, it appear to be using the unity interface, does it still do that?15:39
charlie-tcaXubuntu should not have used unity at any time15:39
ScottLi'm ubuntu studio project lead and i'm trying to get ubuntu studio to use gnome-classic as default15:39
ScottLhi charlie-tca  :)15:39
charlie-tcaHello, ScottL15:39
charlie-tcaI think that only happened for a day or two15:40
charlie-tcaOur default is the xubuntu session, and misses unity altogether unless some one adds it15:40
ScottLi have some code from both une and xubuntu that uses 'gdm-set-default-session --keep-old gnome-classic' but it doesn't seem to work correctly15:40
ScottLi even tried to effect this using CLI and it doesn't seem to set it15:41
charlie-tcaThe latest images for Xubuntu are defaulting properly to Xfce15:41
ScottLof course my testing is starting with a vanilla ubuntu install and building from there so that might be part of the problem15:41
charlie-tcaMight ask in #edubuntu, too. qimo is working with them now15:41
ScottLi'm having to do that because the alternate install have been so unstable recently15:41
charlie-tcayeah, I know that one, too15:42
ScottLi'll try the xubuntu disc first, then work over to #edubuntu as well15:42
charlie-tcaGood luck15:42
ScottLthanks15:42
ScottLcharlie-tca, we also have someone looking to the dark-grey-on-even-darker-grey-background issue you mentioned15:43
mhall119who what?15:43
charlie-tcahey, mhall11915:43
ScottLunfortunately the same person is also working on the getting the settings correct for the firewire stack and ubuntustudio-controls, but we hope to have something worked out soon15:43
charlie-tcaScottL is trying to get ubuntustudio to build with the classic-desktop from Ubuntu15:44
charlie-tcaScottL: no problem, I appreciate your trying to make it work15:44
mhall119charlie-tca: did someone have a question for me?15:45
charlie-tcamhall119: Is qimo using classic-desktop?15:45
charlie-tcaor are you using unity now15:45
charlie-tcaor did you get around both of them?15:45
mhall119no unity15:46
mhall119no gnome at all yet15:46
mhall119there will be a gnome session in time for Natty15:46
mhall119but I haven't started it yet15:46
mhall119I'm still working on the new Xfce session15:47
mhall119with my new panel15:47
mhall119but Qimo won't use unity, and last I heard Edubuntu won't be either15:47
charlie-tcaThat's what I thought. I told ScottL he should ask in #edubuntu since I know you are working with them15:48
mhall119I'm assuming the classic-desktop will still be available15:49
mhall119they had been calling in 2d-experience at UDS15:49
mhall119but now they have 2d Unity15:49
mhall119so I'm not sure what it's called anymore15:49
charlie-tcaScottL: could that be why it won't work yet?15:50
mhall119sounds like his problem is starting from Ubuntu15:53
mhall119I'm finally learning how to build an ISO from debootstrap, instead of ripping apart Xubuntu isos15:53
charlie-tcaWell, hopefully he can get help learning how to make everything work15:53
error21how can I install flash player on Xubuntu 10.1016:00
charlie-tca!info flashplugin-installer16:02
ubottuflashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10.1.102.65ubuntu0.10.10.1 (maverick), package size 19 kB, installed size 184 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)16:02
charlie-tcaerror21: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer16:03
error21i download libflshplayer.so16:03
charlie-tcaOkay16:03
error21and cp in /lib/.../mozilla/plugins/16:03
error21but not working16:03
charlie-tcathen you need to go to adobe website and search the information. We don't support installing that way16:04
error21ok16:04
error21now installing16:05
error21with sudo apt-get16:05
error21ok thanks16:06
charlie-tcaYou are welcome16:06
bossesHello can somone tell me where the Startup Programs is in 10.10?16:07
charlie-tcaWhat startup programs? What are you trying to do?16:07
bossesAdding a new one and i cant find the entry in the menu16:07
error21why system blocks when try to install programs with ubuntu system center16:07
error21another16:09
error21:)16:09
charlie-tcabosses: you can look in /usr/share/applications to see if it is there. If not, you create a new .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications16:09
mhall119error21: all apt programs use the same database, and will lock it for their own use16:10
bossesso there isnt a menu choise like in regular ubuntu? :/16:10
mhall119so if software center is running, apt-get can't16:10
charlie-tcaerror21: don't know. You can use Synaptic Package Manager instead to install applications, though16:10
error21I don`t have xorg.conf16:10
charlie-tcathat's right!16:10
mhall119nobody does anymore16:10
mhall119and good riddance16:10
error21it is locate in another place16:10
mhall119nope16:11
error21locate xorg.conf16:11
mhall119xorg auto-detects settings now16:11
mhall119every time you boot16:11
error21how can I edit16:11
ScottLcharlie-tca, mhall119 , thank you , i agree that my problem might lie in starting with vanilla ubuntu but i'll keep digging into it16:12
mhall119you can create /etc/X11/xorg.conf16:12
mhall119anything you put in there will over-write the auto-detected settings16:12
error21to create or not?16:12
mhall119not16:12
mhall119definitely not16:12
error21ok16:12
mhall119unless you have a really really really good reason to16:12
error21to improve resolution16:13
mhall119xorg should be detecting the supported resolutions of both your monitor and card, and using the best one by default16:13
error21yes but it is small one16:14
mhall119800x600?16:14
error21at the login it is too small16:14
error21no 1024X76816:15
error21at the login is more smaller16:15
mhall119that's not all that small, that's native on a lot of LCDs16:15
error21like a mouse16:15
error21:)16:15
error21how can I edit16:15
mhall119edit a mouse?16:15
error21edit at the login16:16
mhall119edit the resolution at login?16:16
error21to appear more bigger16:16
error21yes16:16
mhall119hmmmm16:16
mhall119/var/lib/gdm is where all the settings are I think16:16
mhall119the login screen is now run as user 'gdm', so wherever a user's prefered resolution is stored16:17
error21and what file to edit16:17
mhall119I'm not sure where that is16:17
mhall119you'll have to poke around16:17
error21what file16:17
error21.conf16:17
mhall11911:16 < mhall119> I'm not sure where that is16:17
error21ok thanks16:21
Guest90657What programme do I need to see what's next to my cam?16:40
Guest90657I ahven't seen anything detecting it :(16:40
Guest90657I tried Camera Visor Camomara16:40
Guest90657but says It can't takes photos16:40
error21my flash player stop17:35
error21freeze17:35
David-Aerror21: in a browser? which? what graphics card and driver? many tabs/windows with flash in them? other programs freeze too?17:41
David-Aerror21: if in a browser, what web page?17:43
David-Aerror21: why did you leave so soon :(17:44
GeoZoohi there, someone good with wlan cards?19:30
Besogonwlan? Do you have a problem with wifi?19:38
GeoZooyep, i cant connect with my notebook to a wireless network19:39
BesogonIs the card tuned on?19:43
GeoZooyes, i just tried the last steps from the wiki entry19:43
GeoZooi use wpa_supplicant in the console in debugg mode19:43
GeoZooit says that i associat with my router but after this it disconnets19:44
BesogonI remember that I managed the wpa_supplicant work.19:44
BesogonIt doesn't give me much. Didyou try Network manager? sure you do19:45
GeoZooin all forum or wikis i found they recommented to deinstall nm and install wicd19:46
GeoZoocurrently i deinstalled nm and disabled wicd19:46
GeoZooonly wpa_supplicant is running19:46
BesogonDon't listen those who tell you that Network Manager is a litter, because it's not. It has made for USERs, not for Administrators19:48
BesogonOK. We can try to make WPA_supplicant work19:49
GeoZoo:), that would very great if you can give me some guidance19:49
BesogonWhat setting does your router have?19:49
BesogonHere is the greatest instruction for that. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57118819:50
GeoZooWPA-PSK encryption, g and b mode, channel 1, SSID is prodcast19:51
GeoZoothanks19:51
BesogonDHCP?19:52
GeoZoois enabled19:52
BesogonOK. I glad to tell you that I used wpa-psk too.19:53
BesogonSo. I may give you a file which you should modify according your customization19:54
GeoZoothat would be great19:55
GeoZoooh, i didn't set up dc19:56
Besogonoh19:56
GeoZoook, please try again19:57
Besogonhttp://pastebin.com/zX49NMkK19:58
BesogonIt's my wpa_supplicant.file19:59
GeoZooi guess in /etc/wpa_supplicant/ rigth?19:59
Besogonyes19:59
Besogonvalues group, pairwise and key_mgmt you can get reading output of "iwlist scanning"20:00
Besogonand psk20:01
GeoZoowould you be so kind and post your /etc/network/interfaces as well? of course only the wlan part20:01
BesogonI give you it too20:01
GeoZoothanks20:01
BesogonSo< psk value you get with wpa_passphrase SSID Password20:02
BesogonLines from interfaces file20:02
Besogonwait20:03
Besogonhttp://pastebin.com/WRzYBL5t20:03
BesogonDriver wext worked for me20:04
GeoZoodo you use different networks (in wpa_supplicant.conf) because the wireless-essid in your interfaces is kind of confusing20:05
BesogonNo. I tested Wifi and ubuntu with the network. It worked.20:07
BesogonBut it depends on you.20:07
Besogonuse other value. I like Homewifi20:08
Besogonname20:08
BesogonIt's still much better then my damn neighborhoods are using.20:09
GeoZoooh, no i already have my name :) but it is possible that wpa_supplicant auto detect different wifis20:09
GeoZoolike, HomeWifi, WorkWifi, TeaHouse and so on20:10
GeoZoobut, don't mind, i should get it work for this here first20:10
BesogonHere is not any other Wifi except of mine meanwhile to tell you the truth I've detected this year 2 new network20:11
Besogons20:11
GeoZoowell if you living in new york in a flat i'm suprised, if you are a farmer in new zealand i'm not ;-)20:13
Besogon)20:15
BesogonI read of an option scan_freq in wpa_supplicant.conf. scan_freq let you scanning frequency you wish I tried it without luck.20:16
BesogonAre you trying that right now?20:18
GeoZooi set the wpa_supplicant.conf like you did (of course i changed my stuff like passphrase and ssid)20:20
GeoZooi just restarted network and tried to connect, without luck :(20:21
BesogonYou can start wpa_supplicant without restarting20:22
GeoZooi only restarted the network, just to be sure. but ok, thanks for the hint20:23
GeoZoowpa_supplicant is still canneling the association process20:24
BesogonLook. here is how to start wpa without reboot: http://pastebin.com/Arw9F6DA20:28
BesogonIt will work in terminal (not background)20:29
Besogonso you can see what is wrong20:29
Besogonwhat wrong is20:29
BesogonWhat is correct? "So you cans see what is wrong" or "So you can see what wrong is"20:30
charlie-tcaBesogon: So you can see what is wrong20:31
Besogonthanks20:31
charlie-tcaeven better is to say "So you can see what is failing"20:32
GeoZoo"So you can see what wrong is", if i didn't new better i would say you a native speaking german :D20:33
GeoZooa = are20:33
BesogonI'm always confuse when shouldn't I change order in the tense.20:34
Besogonthe order*20:34
Besogon)20:34
GeoZoomy us working colluages always said: "don'T worry about your english, we already understand your second try, that's what we call good english"20:35
GeoZoook, i did what you posted, still it isn't working20:36
BesogonI need more practice in english then20:39
GeoZoowhere you from Besogon?20:40
Besogonrussia20:40
BesogonAnd you?20:40
GeoZooAustria20:40
GeoZoohmm, i understand you, and this is the important thing :D20:41
BesogonAre you working in foreign firm?20:42
GeoZoowell, i focused more on the next hour, not the next years ;-)20:43
GeoZoouh, sorry missunderstood foreign firm :D20:44
BesogonBUt you said you had worked with people who didn't speak your mother tongue. So I decided you worked for foreign company.20:45
GeoZooyes sorry, i missunderstood foreign in the first place20:46
GeoZooi worked in an international company yes. currently i'm a student20:46
GeoZooUS people and guys from Kiev, but sorry forgot all the russion already20:47
Besogoninternational! It's cool. Student time is the best time in life (imho)20:48
GeoZoohmm, depends, i liked the time where i worked too20:48
GeoZooon the other hand, forgett what i said, students time is the best :D20:49
BesogonOf course it does. :D (not education it self but students society)20:50
GeoZoothe last point i forgot in my first comment :)20:51
GeoZooi reconfigure my router, excuse me if i disconnect20:53
Besogondon't worry20:53
The_noobre :)20:58
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GeoZoohmm, just tried to connect without encryption. still not working21:01
BesogonStrange21:01
BesogonWhat does the command "iwlist scanning" give you?21:02
GeoZooa list of wireless networks21:02
GeoZoowait, just realized that i get nothing with iwlist21:05
BesogonGeoZoo, I remember that Wifi-card could be turned off.21:05
BesogonANd you have to switch it on.21:06
Besogonto get work21:06
BesogonYou can look it with "sudo lshw -class network"21:07
GeoZooyes, i had it on, but i just restarted it (switched it off and on again)21:07
GeoZooi think if i try to connect to an unprotected wifi i get this problem, i try it again21:08
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GeoZoohttp://pastebin.com/caUicvMQ21:18
BesogonDid you try to start wpa_supplicant in CLI21:26
GeoZooCLI = client? no i'm using it from the console21:29
GeoZoowill be done in the future21:29
Besogoncommand line21:29
BesogonCLI21:29
GeoZoooh, yes i use it in the command line21:29
BesogonIs common acronym21:29
GeoZoosorry21:29
BesogonSo. Con't you past output of "sudo lshw -class network"21:29
Besogonno21:29
Besogoniwlist scanning21:30
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Besogonpost iwlist scanning21:30
BesogonStill you can avoid all this action if you decide to install Network Manager.21:33
GeoZoohttp://pastebin.com/XpWCut4021:33
GeoZooi have the problem since 2 years :) i don't think that nm is solving this issue21:34
GeoZooand i prefer somehow the CLI21:34
BesogonWhat name is the Wifi net got? "WNetwork"?21:36
BesogonIf it is output of the "iwlist" hasn't that network21:37
GeoZooah sorry, I changed the essid in the config file form "Flumazenil" to "WNetwork"21:38
GeoZoosecurity reasons, but to stupid to do it all the time ^^21:38
Besogonaha21:38
GeoZoobecause the essid is one of two parts to generate the passphrase, you know...21:39
GeoZoobtw, i turn the encryption on ^^21:39
BesogonMoreover. If you like to use wpa_supplicant with WEP-TKIP then enable proper encryption on the router21:40
Besogonfine21:40
Besogonlet me look at the iwlist again21:40
Besogon(post it with new options you turned on)21:40
The_noobplease recognice me as GeoZoo until it runs into a time out21:43
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GeoZoo*Arg* i can't scan now21:45
* Besogon wonder if some kind of pills exist which help to get rid of sleeping?21:50
GeoZookaffein, maybe *lol*21:51
Besogonjust imagine that we lose 8 hours every day. And our life don't become longer21:53
GeoZooin fact it maybe is even shorter if you try to use some of the 8 hours ;-)21:54
BesogonI heard Napoleon slept 3 hours a day but it's difficult to believe in that. may be it's just a gossip21:55
GeoZooi heard from people who sleep only 4 hours per day, but i don't think it's healthy21:55
GeoZoohey, sorry, but i don't get my wlan card to scann anymore21:56
BesogonMay be you wlan card is broken21:57
GeoZoomaybe, but it works under windows21:57
BesogonIt don't work properly. Now it works then it's not21:57
BesogonStop21:58
GeoZooyeah, still i'm scared that the problem is sitting in front of the laptop ;-)21:58
BesogonDoes wlan exist at all? it should be in ifconfig. you know21:58
GeoZooyes i can see it21:59
GeoZoothe lo and wlan021:59
Besogonsudo ifconfig wlan0 down22:00
GeoZooafterwards it isn't22:00
Besogonsudo dhclient -r wlan022:01
Besogonso you kill it22:01
GeoZoodone22:01
BesogonWifi router works22:01
GeoZooyes22:01
BesogonIt shoud works with correct values22:02
Besogon(wpa_supplicant.conf file should be correct)22:02
GeoZoook, i think this was the last try to get it work22:02
GeoZoothans for your help and work22:02
GeoZoothanks22:03
Besogonhey22:03
BesogonLet try it22:03
GeoZoook22:03
BesogonMake sure that TABs are used in wpa_supplicant.conf file in network section22:04
udo_was muss ich installieren um "windows-Freigabe" unuter Orte zu haben22:04
BesogonGeoZoo, sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -dd22:04
BesogonThen look22:04
GeoZoook22:05
Besogonopen other CLI22:05
GeoZooi use gvim to edit the file22:05
Besogonand make sure wlan0 exist22:05
GeoZoook22:05
Besogonsudo dhclient wlan022:06
vuduhey. I believe i intalled xubuntu 7.10. now there is no system at the menu bar and applications is empty. apt-get update and upgrade does nothing22:06
BesogonWait22:06
vuduhow do i run the update manager?22:07
Besogonvudu, apt-get dist-upgrade22:08
BesogonBut I don't know whether that possible22:08
Besogonfor 7.1022:08
Besogonubuntu22:08
bazhangvudu, you dont22:08
BesogonGeoZoo,22:08
bazhangvudu, that version is end of life and unsupported22:08
BesogonWhat is going on?22:09
bazhang!de | udo_22:09
ubottuudo_: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.22:09
vudui am at my families house and it is the only thing that i could find to make the pc work22:09
BesogonGeoZoo, open 3 CLI and look if wlan0 has got IP22:09
bazhangvudu, get the latest when you can, then22:10
GeoZoook22:10
vuduthanks anyway22:10
GeoZoono it doesn't22:10
BesogonWhat is in first CLI? And what is in the second?22:11
Besogonfirst look at first22:11
BesogonCLI22:11
GeoZoofirst: wpa commane22:11
GeoZood, second: dhclient, third: ifconfig22:11
udo_sorry , wrong channel22:12
BesogonDid wpa_supplicant crushed? In first CLI you should see WPA connection. And in the second DHCP is getting IP22:13
GeoZooin the first, wpa is doing the same thing over and over22:13
udo_got a bookmark with gigolo on a distant web-directory, but the directory is not mounted22:14
udo_I use xfce22:14
GeoZooits scanning and finding the essid, it is associated, but at the auth process it fails22:15
GeoZooshould i post the log?22:15
BesogonGeoZoo, So. now try iwlist in the 3 CLI to look router options. And POST it. It looks as the router have another encription method then supplicant think22:15
BesogonGeoZoo, here is my iwlist output http://pastebin.com/LM2M6ciQ22:20
GeoZoohttp://pastebin.com/ncz2HJyf22:20
GeoZooah, sry22:21
GeoZoothis was the wrong one22:21
GeoZoohttp://pastebin.com/G7MtDZqg22:22
GeoZoothis was the last scan22:22
BesogonGeoZoo, Post wpa_supplicant.conf please22:23
GeoZoohttp://pastebin.com/gtdQnXMu22:26
BesogonGeoZoo, All seems correct22:34
BesogonGeoZoo, Can you post at last what WPA is writting to you?22:36
GeoZoohttp://pastebin.com/XsjVEyYg22:39
GeoZooi hope it is not too much22:39
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BesogonGeoZoo, try eapol_version=222:50
GeoZoook22:51
BesogonBut it all I can say now22:52
GeoZootested, still no ip22:53
Besogonevidently22:53
Besogonlet down dhcp22:53
Besogonsudo dhclient -r wlan022:54
Besogonsudo killall -q wpa_supplicant22:54
Besogonsudo ifconfig wlan0 down22:54
GeoZoodone22:55
Besogontry to change the parameter and start as you did previously (may be it'll help) but I don't know.22:55
GeoZoomeanwhile i google after wlan usb sticks :D22:55
GeoZoosorry, but which parameter?22:56
Besogon)22:56
Besogoneapol_version=222:56
BesogonI don't sure22:56
GeoZoook, just to be sure22:56
BesogonYou have knew router22:56
Besogon802.11i22:56
GeoZoooh, no g and b22:57
GeoZooi check the man page for wpa_supplicant.conf agian. i'm not sure  whats eapol_version22:57
BigGreenCanoeGreetings, seem to have lost my u1sdtool functionality22:58
BesogonGeoZoo, Ok. what we have now is that we don't know why it doesn't work.23:00
Besogon802.11i?23:00
BesogonI've never heard of that23:01
Besogonstandart23:01
GeoZooplus my wifi card (intel 4965) isnt support such format23:01
BesogonI know 802.11(a,b,g,n)23:01
GeoZooyeah, i have really bad luck with wlan, my card didn't break was define it's own standard23:03
GeoZoodamn ai :D23:03
GeoZooa friend borrowed me a wlan usb stick, of course a netgear which i can't find in the supported wlan list23:04
BesogonGeoZoo, You are fine. 802.11i is a security protocol not Wifi.23:06
BesogonI feel strong wish for sleep then. :)23:07
GeoZoo:) me too23:07
GeoZoothanks again for your help23:07
GeoZooand of course thanks for your time23:08
BesogonSo bye. I hope you will find decision tomorrow. bye23:08
BigGreenCanoeso is there anyone who can help with a ubuntu one issue?23:20
moetunes!ubuntuone23:26
ubottuUbuntu One is a service where you can back up, store, sync and share your data with other Ubuntu One users - For more see https://one.ubuntu.com/ support and help available at #ubuntuone23:26

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