=== IdleOne is now known as CIASquid === CIASquid is now known as IdleOne [02:36] Hi everyone. Is this the place for support with Xubuntu? [02:38] Im looking to disable my touchpad while I type on my laptop. I cannot find any settings in here to do that. Everytime I type something, my touchpad thinks I am tapping it. [02:41] Anyone in here? [02:43] livewire: I use a script from Archwiki for that [02:44] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Synaptics#Disable_Trackpad_while_Typing === peregrinator_six is now known as Monarquista === jwkokc is now known as jk_ [08:54] IdleOne rww I'm just torrenting xubuntu lucid but I am confused. on http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/lucid/release/desktop/ (my reason for asking here) it shows the complete iso as being 681MB, bur the torrent file shows to be 714MB. First where does the disparity come from, and second, are they really producing iso's over 700 and expecting them to burn? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === Hagbard__ is now known as Highlander === Highlander is now known as Celine [15:39] last time i tried an xubuntu natty disc back in december, it appear to be using the unity interface, does it still do that? [15:39] Xubuntu should not have used unity at any time [15:39] i'm ubuntu studio project lead and i'm trying to get ubuntu studio to use gnome-classic as default [15:39] hi charlie-tca :) [15:39] Hello, ScottL [15:40] I think that only happened for a day or two [15:40] Our default is the xubuntu session, and misses unity altogether unless some one adds it [15:40] i have some code from both une and xubuntu that uses 'gdm-set-default-session --keep-old gnome-classic' but it doesn't seem to work correctly [15:41] i even tried to effect this using CLI and it doesn't seem to set it [15:41] The latest images for Xubuntu are defaulting properly to Xfce [15:41] of course my testing is starting with a vanilla ubuntu install and building from there so that might be part of the problem [15:41] Might ask in #edubuntu, too. qimo is working with them now [15:41] i'm having to do that because the alternate install have been so unstable recently [15:42] yeah, I know that one, too [15:42] i'll try the xubuntu disc first, then work over to #edubuntu as well [15:42] Good luck [15:42] thanks [15:43] charlie-tca, we also have someone looking to the dark-grey-on-even-darker-grey-background issue you mentioned [15:43] who what? [15:43] hey, mhall119 [15:43] unfortunately the same person is also working on the getting the settings correct for the firewire stack and ubuntustudio-controls, but we hope to have something worked out soon [15:44] ScottL is trying to get ubuntustudio to build with the classic-desktop from Ubuntu [15:44] ScottL: no problem, I appreciate your trying to make it work [15:45] charlie-tca: did someone have a question for me? [15:45] mhall119: Is qimo using classic-desktop? [15:45] or are you using unity now [15:45] or did you get around both of them? [15:46] no unity [15:46] no gnome at all yet [15:46] there will be a gnome session in time for Natty [15:46] but I haven't started it yet [15:47] I'm still working on the new Xfce session [15:47] with my new panel [15:47] but Qimo won't use unity, and last I heard Edubuntu won't be either [15:48] That's what I thought. I told ScottL he should ask in #edubuntu since I know you are working with them [15:49] I'm assuming the classic-desktop will still be available [15:49] they had been calling in 2d-experience at UDS [15:49] but now they have 2d Unity [15:49] so I'm not sure what it's called anymore [15:50] ScottL: could that be why it won't work yet? [15:53] sounds like his problem is starting from Ubuntu [15:53] I'm finally learning how to build an ISO from debootstrap, instead of ripping apart Xubuntu isos [15:53] Well, hopefully he can get help learning how to make everything work [16:00] how can I install flash player on Xubuntu 10.10 [16:02] !info flashplugin-installer [16:02] flashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10.1.102.65ubuntu0.10.10.1 (maverick), package size 19 kB, installed size 184 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia) [16:03] error21: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer [16:03] i download libflshplayer.so [16:03] Okay [16:03] and cp in /lib/.../mozilla/plugins/ [16:03] but not working [16:04] then you need to go to adobe website and search the information. We don't support installing that way [16:04] ok [16:05] now installing [16:05] with sudo apt-get [16:06] ok thanks [16:06] You are welcome [16:07] Hello can somone tell me where the Startup Programs is in 10.10? [16:07] What startup programs? What are you trying to do? [16:07] Adding a new one and i cant find the entry in the menu [16:07] why system blocks when try to install programs with ubuntu system center [16:09] another [16:09] :) [16:09] bosses: you can look in /usr/share/applications to see if it is there. If not, you create a new .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications [16:10] error21: all apt programs use the same database, and will lock it for their own use [16:10] so there isnt a menu choise like in regular ubuntu? :/ [16:10] so if software center is running, apt-get can't [16:10] error21: don't know. You can use Synaptic Package Manager instead to install applications, though [16:10] I don`t have xorg.conf [16:10] that's right! [16:10] nobody does anymore [16:10] and good riddance [16:10] it is locate in another place [16:11] nope [16:11] locate xorg.conf [16:11] xorg auto-detects settings now [16:11] every time you boot [16:11] how can I edit [16:12] charlie-tca, mhall119 , thank you , i agree that my problem might lie in starting with vanilla ubuntu but i'll keep digging into it [16:12] you can create /etc/X11/xorg.conf [16:12] anything you put in there will over-write the auto-detected settings [16:12] to create or not? [16:12] not [16:12] definitely not [16:12] ok [16:12] unless you have a really really really good reason to [16:13] to improve resolution [16:13] xorg should be detecting the supported resolutions of both your monitor and card, and using the best one by default [16:14] yes but it is small one [16:14] 800x600? [16:14] at the login it is too small [16:15] no 1024X768 [16:15] at the login is more smaller [16:15] that's not all that small, that's native on a lot of LCDs [16:15] like a mouse [16:15] :) [16:15] how can I edit [16:15] edit a mouse? [16:16] edit at the login [16:16] edit the resolution at login? [16:16] to appear more bigger [16:16] yes [16:16] hmmmm [16:16] /var/lib/gdm is where all the settings are I think [16:17] the login screen is now run as user 'gdm', so wherever a user's prefered resolution is stored [16:17] and what file to edit [16:17] I'm not sure where that is [16:17] you'll have to poke around [16:17] what file [16:17] .conf [16:17] 11:16 < mhall119> I'm not sure where that is [16:21] ok thanks [16:40] What programme do I need to see what's next to my cam? [16:40] I ahven't seen anything detecting it :( [16:40] I tried Camera Visor Camomara [16:40] but says It can't takes photos [17:35] my flash player stop [17:35] freeze [17:41] error21: in a browser? which? what graphics card and driver? many tabs/windows with flash in them? other programs freeze too? [17:43] error21: if in a browser, what web page? [17:44] error21: why did you leave so soon :( [19:30] hi there, someone good with wlan cards? [19:38] wlan? Do you have a problem with wifi? [19:39] yep, i cant connect with my notebook to a wireless network [19:43] Is the card tuned on? [19:43] yes, i just tried the last steps from the wiki entry [19:43] i use wpa_supplicant in the console in debugg mode [19:44] it says that i associat with my router but after this it disconnets [19:44] I remember that I managed the wpa_supplicant work. [19:45] It doesn't give me much. Didyou try Network manager? sure you do [19:46] in all forum or wikis i found they recommented to deinstall nm and install wicd [19:46] currently i deinstalled nm and disabled wicd [19:46] only wpa_supplicant is running [19:48] Don't listen those who tell you that Network Manager is a litter, because it's not. It has made for USERs, not for Administrators [19:49] OK. We can try to make WPA_supplicant work [19:49] :), that would very great if you can give me some guidance [19:49] What setting does your router have? [19:50] Here is the greatest instruction for that. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 [19:51] WPA-PSK encryption, g and b mode, channel 1, SSID is prodcast [19:51] thanks [19:52] DHCP? [19:52] is enabled [19:53] OK. I glad to tell you that I used wpa-psk too. [19:54] So. I may give you a file which you should modify according your customization [19:55] that would be great [19:56] oh, i didn't set up dc [19:56] oh [19:57] ok, please try again [19:58] http://pastebin.com/zX49NMkK [19:59] It's my wpa_supplicant.file [19:59] i guess in /etc/wpa_supplicant/ rigth? [19:59] yes [20:00] values group, pairwise and key_mgmt you can get reading output of "iwlist scanning" [20:01] and psk [20:01] would you be so kind and post your /etc/network/interfaces as well? of course only the wlan part [20:01] I give you it too [20:01] thanks [20:02] So< psk value you get with wpa_passphrase SSID Password [20:02] Lines from interfaces file [20:03] wait [20:03] http://pastebin.com/WRzYBL5t [20:04] Driver wext worked for me [20:05] do you use different networks (in wpa_supplicant.conf) because the wireless-essid in your interfaces is kind of confusing [20:07] No. I tested Wifi and ubuntu with the network. It worked. [20:07] But it depends on you. [20:08] use other value. I like Homewifi [20:08] name [20:09] It's still much better then my damn neighborhoods are using. [20:09] oh, no i already have my name :) but it is possible that wpa_supplicant auto detect different wifis [20:10] like, HomeWifi, WorkWifi, TeaHouse and so on [20:10] but, don't mind, i should get it work for this here first [20:11] Here is not any other Wifi except of mine meanwhile to tell you the truth I've detected this year 2 new network [20:11] s [20:13] well if you living in new york in a flat i'm suprised, if you are a farmer in new zealand i'm not ;-) [20:15] ) [20:16] I read of an option scan_freq in wpa_supplicant.conf. scan_freq let you scanning frequency you wish I tried it without luck. [20:18] Are you trying that right now? [20:20] i set the wpa_supplicant.conf like you did (of course i changed my stuff like passphrase and ssid) [20:21] i just restarted network and tried to connect, without luck :( [20:22] You can start wpa_supplicant without restarting [20:23] i only restarted the network, just to be sure. but ok, thanks for the hint [20:24] wpa_supplicant is still canneling the association process [20:28] Look. here is how to start wpa without reboot: http://pastebin.com/Arw9F6DA [20:29] It will work in terminal (not background) [20:29] so you can see what is wrong [20:29] what wrong is [20:30] What is correct? "So you cans see what is wrong" or "So you can see what wrong is" [20:31] Besogon: So you can see what is wrong [20:31] thanks [20:32] even better is to say "So you can see what is failing" [20:33] "So you can see what wrong is", if i didn't new better i would say you a native speaking german :D [20:33] a = are [20:34] I'm always confuse when shouldn't I change order in the tense. [20:34] the order* [20:34] ) [20:35] my us working colluages always said: "don'T worry about your english, we already understand your second try, that's what we call good english" [20:36] ok, i did what you posted, still it isn't working [20:39] I need more practice in english then [20:40] where you from Besogon? [20:40] russia [20:40] And you? [20:40] Austria [20:41] hmm, i understand you, and this is the important thing :D [20:42] Are you working in foreign firm? [20:43] well, i focused more on the next hour, not the next years ;-) [20:44] uh, sorry missunderstood foreign firm :D [20:45] BUt you said you had worked with people who didn't speak your mother tongue. So I decided you worked for foreign company. [20:46] yes sorry, i missunderstood foreign in the first place [20:46] i worked in an international company yes. currently i'm a student [20:47] US people and guys from Kiev, but sorry forgot all the russion already [20:48] international! It's cool. Student time is the best time in life (imho) [20:48] hmm, depends, i liked the time where i worked too [20:49] on the other hand, forgett what i said, students time is the best :D [20:50] Of course it does. :D (not education it self but students society) [20:51] the last point i forgot in my first comment :) [20:53] i reconfigure my router, excuse me if i disconnect [20:53] don't worry [20:58] re :) [20:58] * The_noob slaps The_noob around a bit with a large trout === The_noob is now known as GeoZoo [21:01] hmm, just tried to connect without encryption. still not working [21:01] Strange [21:02] What does the command "iwlist scanning" give you? [21:02] a list of wireless networks [21:05] wait, just realized that i get nothing with iwlist [21:05] GeoZoo, I remember that Wifi-card could be turned off. [21:06] ANd you have to switch it on. [21:06] to get work [21:07] You can look it with "sudo lshw -class network" [21:07] yes, i had it on, but i just restarted it (switched it off and on again) [21:08] i think if i try to connect to an unprotected wifi i get this problem, i try it again === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [21:18] http://pastebin.com/caUicvMQ [21:26] Did you try to start wpa_supplicant in CLI [21:29] CLI = client? no i'm using it from the console [21:29] will be done in the future [21:29] command line [21:29] CLI [21:29] oh, yes i use it in the command line [21:29] Is common acronym [21:29] sorry [21:29] So. Con't you past output of "sudo lshw -class network" [21:29] no [21:30] iwlist scanning === SuperHark is now known as MichealH [21:30] post iwlist scanning [21:33] Still you can avoid all this action if you decide to install Network Manager. [21:33] http://pastebin.com/XpWCut40 [21:34] i have the problem since 2 years :) i don't think that nm is solving this issue [21:34] and i prefer somehow the CLI [21:36] What name is the Wifi net got? "WNetwork"? [21:37] If it is output of the "iwlist" hasn't that network [21:38] ah sorry, I changed the essid in the config file form "Flumazenil" to "WNetwork" [21:38] security reasons, but to stupid to do it all the time ^^ [21:38] aha [21:39] because the essid is one of two parts to generate the passphrase, you know... [21:39] btw, i turn the encryption on ^^ [21:40] Moreover. If you like to use wpa_supplicant with WEP-TKIP then enable proper encryption on the router [21:40] fine [21:40] let me look at the iwlist again [21:40] (post it with new options you turned on) [21:43] please recognice me as GeoZoo until it runs into a time out === The_noob is now known as GeoZoo [21:45] *Arg* i can't scan now [21:50] * Besogon wonder if some kind of pills exist which help to get rid of sleeping? [21:51] kaffein, maybe *lol* [21:53] just imagine that we lose 8 hours every day. And our life don't become longer [21:54] in fact it maybe is even shorter if you try to use some of the 8 hours ;-) [21:55] I heard Napoleon slept 3 hours a day but it's difficult to believe in that. may be it's just a gossip [21:55] i heard from people who sleep only 4 hours per day, but i don't think it's healthy [21:56] hey, sorry, but i don't get my wlan card to scann anymore [21:57] May be you wlan card is broken [21:57] maybe, but it works under windows [21:57] It don't work properly. Now it works then it's not [21:58] Stop [21:58] yeah, still i'm scared that the problem is sitting in front of the laptop ;-) [21:58] Does wlan exist at all? it should be in ifconfig. you know [21:59] yes i can see it [21:59] the lo and wlan0 [22:00] sudo ifconfig wlan0 down [22:00] afterwards it isn't [22:01] sudo dhclient -r wlan0 [22:01] so you kill it [22:01] done [22:01] Wifi router works [22:01] yes [22:02] It shoud works with correct values [22:02] (wpa_supplicant.conf file should be correct) [22:02] ok, i think this was the last try to get it work [22:02] thans for your help and work [22:03] thanks [22:03] hey [22:03] Let try it [22:03] ok [22:04] Make sure that TABs are used in wpa_supplicant.conf file in network section [22:04] was muss ich installieren um "windows-Freigabe" unuter Orte zu haben [22:04] GeoZoo, sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -dd [22:04] Then look [22:05] ok [22:05] open other CLI [22:05] i use gvim to edit the file [22:05] and make sure wlan0 exist [22:05] ok [22:06] sudo dhclient wlan0 [22:06] hey. I believe i intalled xubuntu 7.10. now there is no system at the menu bar and applications is empty. apt-get update and upgrade does nothing [22:06] Wait [22:07] how do i run the update manager? [22:08] vudu, apt-get dist-upgrade [22:08] But I don't know whether that possible [22:08] for 7.10 [22:08] ubuntu [22:08] vudu, you dont [22:08] GeoZoo, [22:08] vudu, that version is end of life and unsupported [22:09] What is going on? [22:09] !de | udo_ [22:09] udo_: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [22:09] i am at my families house and it is the only thing that i could find to make the pc work [22:09] GeoZoo, open 3 CLI and look if wlan0 has got IP [22:10] vudu, get the latest when you can, then [22:10] ok [22:10] thanks anyway [22:10] no it doesn't [22:11] What is in first CLI? And what is in the second? [22:11] first look at first [22:11] CLI [22:11] first: wpa commane [22:11] d, second: dhclient, third: ifconfig [22:12] sorry , wrong channel [22:13] Did wpa_supplicant crushed? In first CLI you should see WPA connection. And in the second DHCP is getting IP [22:13] in the first, wpa is doing the same thing over and over [22:14] got a bookmark with gigolo on a distant web-directory, but the directory is not mounted [22:14] I use xfce [22:15] its scanning and finding the essid, it is associated, but at the auth process it fails [22:15] should i post the log? [22:15] GeoZoo, So. now try iwlist in the 3 CLI to look router options. And POST it. It looks as the router have another encription method then supplicant think [22:20] GeoZoo, here is my iwlist output http://pastebin.com/LM2M6ciQ [22:20] http://pastebin.com/ncz2HJyf [22:21] ah, sry [22:21] this was the wrong one [22:22] http://pastebin.com/G7MtDZqg [22:22] this was the last scan [22:23] GeoZoo, Post wpa_supplicant.conf please [22:26] http://pastebin.com/gtdQnXMu [22:34] GeoZoo, All seems correct [22:36] GeoZoo, Can you post at last what WPA is writting to you? [22:39] http://pastebin.com/XsjVEyYg [22:39] i hope it is not too much === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville [22:50] GeoZoo, try eapol_version=2 [22:51] ok [22:52] But it all I can say now [22:53] tested, still no ip [22:53] evidently [22:53] let down dhcp [22:54] sudo dhclient -r wlan0 [22:54] sudo killall -q wpa_supplicant [22:54] sudo ifconfig wlan0 down [22:55] done [22:55] try to change the parameter and start as you did previously (may be it'll help) but I don't know. [22:55] meanwhile i google after wlan usb sticks :D [22:56] sorry, but which parameter? [22:56] ) [22:56] eapol_version=2 [22:56] I don't sure [22:56] ok, just to be sure [22:56] You have knew router [22:56] 802.11i [22:57] oh, no g and b [22:57] i check the man page for wpa_supplicant.conf agian. i'm not sure whats eapol_version [22:58] Greetings, seem to have lost my u1sdtool functionality [23:00] GeoZoo, Ok. what we have now is that we don't know why it doesn't work. [23:00] 802.11i? [23:01] I've never heard of that [23:01] standart [23:01] plus my wifi card (intel 4965) isnt support such format [23:01] I know 802.11(a,b,g,n) [23:03] yeah, i have really bad luck with wlan, my card didn't break was define it's own standard [23:03] damn ai :D [23:04] a friend borrowed me a wlan usb stick, of course a netgear which i can't find in the supported wlan list [23:06] GeoZoo, You are fine. 802.11i is a security protocol not Wifi. [23:07] I feel strong wish for sleep then. :) [23:07] :) me too [23:07] thanks again for your help [23:08] and of course thanks for your time [23:08] So bye. I hope you will find decision tomorrow. bye [23:20] so is there anyone who can help with a ubuntu one issue? [23:26] !ubuntuone [23:26] Ubuntu One is a service where you can back up, store, sync and share your data with other Ubuntu One users - For more see https://one.ubuntu.com/ support and help available at #ubuntuone