[00:02] <debfx> thanks
[00:02] <debfx> and another thing: kubuntu-bugs needs to be subscribed to synaptiks :)
[00:07] <JontheEchidna> subscribe'd
[00:47] <yofel> PING: need some kdevelop 4.1.90 maverick testers once the packages are published https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+packages
[01:00] <vanguard> hmm, apparently I made a successful binary package with my java project, but launchpad rejects it for not being source. A source package is a little more complicated, isn't it?
[01:01] <nixternal> yofel: I will test
[01:04] <nixternal> yofel: upgrading now
[01:07] <nixternal> yofel: update went well, so-far-so-good
[01:08] <nixternal> yofel: it is missing all of the KDE Project Templates. Only has Qt and non-gui templates
[01:09] <yofel> you mean under project templates -> c++ -> KDE ?
[01:09] <nixternal> yess
[01:09] <nixternal> err, yes
[01:10] <yofel> ok, I'll need a VM to test this then, they are there in natty
[01:10] <nixternal> think I know why
[01:10] <nixternal> I didn't have kapptemplate installed
[01:10]  * nixternal checks again
[01:10] <nixternal> ahh, there they are
[01:10] <nixternal> yeah, need kapptemplate installed for the kde templates
[01:11] <yofel> ah, kdesdk pulls that in here
[01:11]  * yofel wonders if kdevelop should recommend that
[01:11] <nixternal> i think it would be a good recommend to be honest
[01:12] <nixternal> i don't remember ever installing it before and it was always there for kdevelop
[01:12] <yofel> odd, I didn't drop it though
[01:13] <nixternal> it could have gotten dropped a while ago though
[01:13] <nixternal> especially with the hole separation of libs and what not with kdevelop
[01:14] <nixternal> it isn't a show stopper by any means, everything thus far is working, and finally code completion doesn't make me want to throw the computer out the window
[01:14] <yofel> :D
[01:14] <jjesse> evening
[01:14] <nixternal> evening it is
[01:14] <yofel> hi jjesse
[01:14] <jjesse> hello yofel and nigelb
[01:14] <vanguard> what of the debian packaging files should go into the development branch?
[01:14] <jjesse> doh
[01:14] <jjesse> nixternal
[01:15] <nixternal> that's my name, don't wear it out :p
[01:16] <yofel> vanguard: can you rephrase that? do you mean a bzr branch? how did you create the debian folder?
[01:16] <vanguard> yeah, I mean a bzr branch. I got my the whole project+makefile in a branch
[01:17] <vanguard> now I have created a packaging/ and there is a packaging/debian folder as well
[01:17] <vanguard> and the latter contains control, changelog, rules, ...
[01:17] <yofel> vanguard: hm, usually I would keep the debian folder in a seperate branch, you can just check the packaging branch out into debian/ then
[01:18] <yofel> or into the local folder if the packaging branch contains the debian/ folder itself
[01:19] <vanguard> I thought about creating a rule that creates the orig.tar.gz into the makefile, and I would have all the packaging stuff in the trunk
[01:20] <vanguard> or would that be way off the standards?
[01:21] <yofel> well, if you keep the packaging in trunk you can just use a native package and omit the .orig.tar.gz - the orig.tar only makes sense if you have the original source and the packaging stuff seperate
[01:23] <vanguard> Makes sense, what would I feed to the packaging tools then? Would I just refer them to the sources/ folder somehow?
[01:24] <yofel> well, you have your source folder, called application-0.1 for example, and you'll have the packaging stuff in application-0.1/debian/ - then you build a source package out of that with 'debuild -S'
[01:25] <yofel> (run debuild inside application-0.1/)
[01:25] <vanguard> the makefile would then be inside /app-0.1/?
[01:26] <yofel> the makefile and whatever else your application contains
[01:27] <vanguard> I got some other stuff (like docs) flying around my branch, and the makefile is in the root directory. I guess I should move that into the sources folder then, and put the debian/ folder inside there too.
[01:28] <yofel> note: the application-0.1/ folder will be the root directory for your package source
[01:29] <yofel> meaning make will be run in there when the package is built
[01:29] <vanguard> Okay, then we were talking about the same thing. But why do you append a version number to the directory? It changes all the time in my trunk branch ...
[01:30] <yofel> ah, that was a habit, you won't need that without a orig.tar and you'll set the version in debian/changelog
[01:34] <vanguard> Okay, now I got /sources/debian/... and /sources/*.java
[01:36] <yofel> the debian/ folder needs to be in the package root
[01:36] <vanguard> it is kind of, since nothing outside the /sources/ gets into the .jar or the .deb
[01:37] <vanguard> that is just HTML documentation or some original artwork
[01:37] <vanguard> so I would say that it is in the source-code-root then
[01:37] <yofel> ah, if the html and artwork stuff doesn't get into the package then fine
[01:38] <vanguard> it is artwork in svg, the game uses Java2D, so the svg is just upstream data if one can say that like this
[01:44] <vanguard> the generated packages should be one level higher, and not in the /sources/folder, right?
[01:44] <yofel> yes
[01:54] <vanguard> Thanks a lot for your great help, I have to go to bed now. Tomorrow I might try to tackle the source package :-)
[08:54] <valorie> sheytan: people are lovin' on your splash screen
[08:54] <valorie> :-)
[08:54] <valorie> comments on the release announcement
[08:55] <sheytan> valorie yeah, i see :D
[08:55] <sheytan> glad to hear :)
[08:56] <valorie> thanks again for your work!
[11:14] <markey> hey folks
[11:14] <markey> got a question:
[11:14] <markey> is there any way to remove LibPulse, without breaking anything?
[11:14] <markey> I have already remove PulseAudio
[11:15] <markey> but I still have to suffer from LibPulse crashes. it makes no sense to me
[13:33] <Sput> markey: I'd expect for removing deps to a library, you'd have to recompile the packages
[13:34] <markey> oh god
[14:51] <jussi> Hrm, Our wiki theme is still old... are we planning on fixing that soon? 
[15:56] <kaydsoft> Hi ..... would anyone who happens to be workin on the kubuntu variant of natty answer this question .... what is the default python interpretor on kubuntu's variant of natty natty .... zit 2.x ow 3.x?
[16:03] <JontheEchidna> kaydsoft: 2.7.1
[16:16] <Quintasan_> HERP DERP
[16:16]  * Quintasan has suicidal impulses from Python
[16:17]  * yofel hands rm to Quintasan
[16:17] <yofel> won't really help though
[16:17] <Quintasan> yofel: LOL
[16:18] <Quintasan> yofel: test from Polish tomorrow, I already gave up learning
[16:18] <yofel> heh, good luck
[16:21] <kaydsoft> JontheEchidna:thanx for the answer
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> kaydsoft: no problem
[17:08] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: the meeting is in 22 minutes
[17:13] <mgraesslin> shadeslayer: ok I'll try to attend, though i might be a little bit late
[17:14] <shadeslayer> sure :)
[17:14] <shadeslayer> i might not be there
[17:16] <CIA-39> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1214850 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/CMakeLists.txt Bump the version for the impending 1.1.0 release
[17:31] <CIA-39> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1214854 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.h Add @since 1.1 for the controlField() function's apidox
[17:43] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1214857 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ChangeLog ChangeLog++
[17:44] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1214860 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/categories.xml Include the IRCClient .desktop file category to the "Chat" category
[17:44] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1214861 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (installer/main.cpp muon/main.cpp updater/main.cpp) Version bump for the impending 1.1.0 release
[18:20] <shadeslayer> !find plasmakpart.h
[18:20] <shadeslayer> !find plasmakpart.h natty
[18:26] <shadeslayer> sheytan: poke
[18:26] <shadeslayer> quick!
[18:27] <shadeslayer> sheytan: to #rekonq
[18:45] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: is the damn flash even working in rekonq?
[18:45] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: Qt Webkit issue
[18:45] <shadeslayer> its not working in my demo browser too
[19:54] <neversfelde> message indicator support in choqok is very buggy. It should not be activated default if it is not fixed with 1.0 stable
[19:57] <sheytan> shadeslayer sorry, was away ;)
[19:57] <sheytan> what happen?
[20:54] <markey> phononlogger: skype coming up
[20:54] <markey> get ready.
[21:41] <CIA-39> [repo-management] [master] Tom Albers * c3e1f0a7e73a * repo-configs/email/ (4 files in 2 dirs) Add muon and libqapt hooks.
[21:49] <JontheEchidna> phononlogger: you should finally be happy about ^
[21:49] <JontheEchidna> :P
[21:50] <JontheEchidna> (moving to git)
[23:58] <phononlogger> JontheEchidna: oh, how verz groovz
[23:58] <phononlogger> groovy
[23:58] <phononlogger> german kbd
[23:58] <phononlogger> oh I hate it
[23:58] <phononlogger> JontheEchidna: what is the keycombo for muon ester egg_
[23:58] <phononlogger> ?
[23:59] <JontheEchidna> ctrl + shift +m (m for moo)
[23:59] <JontheEchidna> btw, are you any good a writing git conversion rulesets?
[23:59] <JontheEchidna> oh, nvm. I see what I did wrong