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jribFxIII: should be quieter in here14:56
FxIIIjrib:  ok14:57
jribFxIII: apt-cache policy libatk1.0-dev libatk1.0-0 plymouth libplymouth2 usplash14:57
jribFxIII: I'm curious what « sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » suggests at this point too14:58
FxIIIjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554733/14:59
FxIIIjrib: it suggest me to run apt-get -f install and complains as if i run apt-get -f install15:00
FxIIIjrib: i can pastebind it if you want15:00
jribsure15:00
jribwhy is mountall on version 1.0, I don't understand15:00
FxIIIjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554734/15:01
jribFxIII: sudo apt-get install plymouth  (do you know why it's not installed?)15:01
FxIIIjrib: i belive it was unistalling the old packet when the boom appends15:02
jribI see15:02
FxIIIplymounth depends libplymounth2 but is not going to be installed...15:03
FxIIIi pastebin15:04
jribFxIII: no need15:04
FxIIIjrib: ok thanks :D15:04
jribFxIII: sudo apt-get install libplymouth2    we chase the rabbit this way...15:04
FxIIIit breaks mountall (<2.8) but 1.0 is to be installed15:05
jribFxIII: sudo apt-get intsall libplymouth2 plymouth mountall15:05
FxIIIpymounth breaks gdm15:06
jribheh, pastebin?15:06
FxIIIshal i add gdm?15:06
FxIIIjust a moment15:06
jribyeah sure, you can add it; just make sure there's an old gdm installed with apt-cache policy gdm15:06
FxIIIinstalled 2.28.1-0ubuntu2.2, candidate 2.30.2.is.2.30.0-ubuntu415:07
jribk15:07
jribgetting a snack, brb15:08
FxIII?15:08
FxIIIwhat about the partial upgrade proposed by the graphical package upgrade?15:09
jribyou can try if you want15:10
FxIIII simply dont know what it does (i ever have a shiver when i do thigs that i dont know)15:10
FxIIIok i try the partial upgrade then i see what append15:11
jribFxIII: it should tell you what it wants to do, no?  There's usually a "details" button you can press15:11
FxIIIyeah jrib , until the power goes down :D15:11
jribha15:11
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FxIIII will tell when it finished (if you are still here ;)15:12
FxIIIno way15:12
FxIIIBroken packages15:13
jriblet me guess... mountall?15:13
FxIIIdoes not tell :D15:13
jribFxIII: sudo apt-get intsall libplymouth2 plymouth mountall gdm15:13
FxIIIsame erros, depends on things that are too old15:15
FxIIIi can pastebin if you want15:15
jribsure15:15
FxIIIjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554737/15:16
jribone way around this is probably to remove mountall and then put it back, but if something goes wrong you probably won't be able to mount15:16
FxIIIi got a look to synaptic that say there are 5 broken packages, what if i march then to reinstall?15:17
FxIIIis the same right?15:17
jribyeah15:18
jribFxIII: try, sudo apt-get -f install libplymouth2 plymouth mountall gdm, i'm curious if -f actually does anything15:18
FxIIIbut it reinstall other packages and update other ones (mountall included)15:18
FxIIIok15:18
FxIIIleaving synaptic15:18
jribFxIII: it updated mountall?15:19
jribwhat's apt-cache policy mountall say now?15:19
FxIIIi do notthing with synaptic15:19
FxIIIsame error15:19
FxIIImountall installed 1.0 candidate 2.15.315:20
FxIIIneed the output?15:20
jribFxIII: I give you a choice :)  1) remove mountall with dpkg and then try to upgrade everything and reinstall mountall  2) continue adding things to apt-get install list15:21
FxIIIwhat about 3) using synaptic to reinstall brocken packages? probably is the same of 2.15:21
jribFxIII: ok try 315:21
FxIII:D15:21
FxIIIit tell me it will update mountall libatk1.0-dev15:22
jribk15:22
FxIIIamong other15:23
FxIIIok fingercross15:24
FxIIIhahaha15:25
FxIIIinternal error, could not perform immediate configuration(2) on plymouth15:25
FxIIIcant plymouth be wiped out :D15:26
jribyou don't have plymouth installed15:26
FxIIIyou are right15:27
FxIIIi can unmark it15:27
FxIIIno way...15:28
FxIIIok i'm starting to think that is faster to recover data and reinstall15:30
jrib(1) is fast if it works.  (2) I don't know how many more things you will have to add15:30
FxIIIi mean to copy /home and reinstall the ubuntu from scrach15:31
jribsure, you can do that15:31
padhuFxIII: You can, try partimage15:32
FxIIIiìis not installed and I dont know how to do it :D15:34
jribFxIII: partimage allows you to backup partitions, it's not really useful to you in this case15:35
padhujrib: we can restore it15:35
FxIIII can tar the whole home from root in single user mode15:36
jribpadhu: but he would be restoring the broken parts as well15:36
FxIIIit makes sense?15:36
jribFxIII: sure, I still think you can fix this using (1) or (2) though.  But since installing ubuntu is pretty quick, that's probably easier15:36
jribFxIII: after you have backups, try (1) if you don't mind :)15:37
FxIIIjrib:15:38
FxIIIjrib: lets try 1) :D15:38
FxIII sudo dpkg -u mountall ?15:39
jribFxIII: -r, not -u15:39
FxIIIok15:39
FxIIIdependency problems prevent removal of mountall : upstart depends on mountall15:40
jribFxIII: force its removal15:41
FxIIIjrib: how? -rf?15:41
FxIII--force-depends?15:42
jribFxIII: you should have backups before we do this15:42
jribFxIII: yeah15:42
FxIIIi can always access the partition from a live disk right?15:43
FxIIIjrib:15:43
jribFxIII: right15:43
FxIIIjrib: here we go!15:44
FxIIIjrib: it appears it does all15:44
FxIIIit says that "ureadahead will be reprofiled on enxt reboot"15:45
FxIIIwhat now?15:45
jribnow do « apt-get -f install »15:45
FxIIIjrib: ok15:45
FxIIInot there ise the problem on libatk1.0-dev and ubuntu-netbook-remix15:46
FxIIIi pastebin jrib15:46
jribFxIII: just remove the -dev, not necessary anyway15:47
jribyou can always reinstall it later if you want15:47
FxIIIjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554753/15:47
FxIIIjrib:  how? with apt-get or with dpkg?15:47
jribFxIII: apt-get will probably complain about the other issues15:47
FxIIIlibgtk2.0-dev depends on libatk1.0-dev15:48
FxIIIjrib: do i force as before?15:48
jribFxIII: nah leave it15:48
FxIIIwhat now?15:49
FxIIIjrib: what now?15:50
jribFxIII: lets try to sort out the libatk issue I suppose.  This wasn't as fast as I thought :P: sudo apt-get install libatk1.0-015:50
FxIIIis the newset version15:51
jriboh15:51
jriberm15:51
FxIIIjrib:  the other errors remains15:51
jribapt-cache policy libatk1.0-dev libatk1.0-015:51
FxIIIjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554755/15:52
jriboh I see so apt-get install is stupid :(15:53
jribwhat happens when you do: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade15:53
jribor apt-get -f dist-upgrade, maybe that will try to install mountall at the same time15:54
FxIIIjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554756/15:54
jribsigh15:55
jribwhy is trying to install the old atk -dev15:55
jribmaybe it checks deps before upgrading at all15:55
FxIII-f?15:55
jribyou can try, I'm not sure it will work15:55
FxIIIsame erros15:55
jriblet's just remove it, sudo apt-get remove libgtk2.0-dev libatk1.0-dev15:56
jribor dpkg if it complains with apt-get15:56
FxIIIjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554757/15:57
jribuse dpkg15:57
jriboh wait15:58
jribit's not complaining about atk anymore so I guess that was removed15:58
jribnow lets try installing mountall again: sudo apt-get install mountall15:58
FxIIInot removed15:58
FxIIIkuvatk1.0-dev depends yadda yadda15:59
jribhmm?15:59
FxIIIi belive it does not removed but simpy suppress the error15:59
jribuse dpkg to remove libgtk2.0-dev libatk1.0-dev if atk is still an issue15:59
FxIIIremoved16:00
jribalright and what happens when you try to install mountall?16:00
FxIIImount all depends plymouth but is not going to be installed16:01
FxIII*mountall16:01
FxIIIjrib: what about reinstall upstart from synaptic?16:02
jribFxIII: guess you have to start specifying things again plymouth libplymouth2  etc.  I don't think synaptic will help16:03
FxIIIprobably it will remove all and try to reinstall lather16:03
FxIII*later16:03
jribk16:03
jribgood luck16:03
jribI'm gonna step out for a bit16:03
jribFxIII: note without mountall you probably won't be able to boot successfully16:04
FxIIInow dis-upgrade complains about upstart and netbook remix only16:04
FxIII*dis-upgrade16:04
jribFxIII: oh?  What did you do differently?16:04
jribyou removed upstart?16:05
FxIIIno no16:05
FxIIIi did notting16:05
jribweird.16:05
jrib:P16:05
FxIIIwhat about try to reinstall upstart?16:05
jribwell you can probably remove ubuntu-netbook-remix and usplash-theme-ubuntu and reinstall them once you successfully upgrade all of the other packages16:06
FxIIIjrib: half world depends on them :D16:07
jribah16:07
FxIIIwhait16:08
FxIIIi have a /var/cache/apt/archives full of archives downloaded by dist-upgrade16:08
FxIIIare they usefull?16:08
jriboh right16:08
FxIIIjrib:16:08
jribpastebin apt-cache policy mountall again?  I remember you had a few versions available16:09
jribmaybe we can install the one that matches up with the state your system is currently in16:09
FxIIIin cache i have 2.15.3_i386.deb16:10
FxIIIjrib: i belive it is useless16:11
FxIIIjrib: can i try the synaptic reinstall of upstart and co now that there are no other package broken?16:12
jribFxIII: i don't think it will help, but you can try16:12
FxIIIjrib: (probably there will be the same error for plymouth)16:12
FxIIIit complains about mountall16:12
FxIIInevermind16:12
FxIIImay i remove all the netbook-remix stuff?16:13
jribsure, it's not really essential; you can bring it back later16:14
FxIIIjrib: with usplash-theme-ubuntu?16:14
FxIIIapt-get remove does not work16:15
FxIIIjrib: eureka! removed ubuntu stuff with dpkg and now apt-get install -f sems to work!16:16
jribexcept your system still is broken :P16:16
FxIIIshall i continue jrib ?16:16
jribapt-cache policy mountall  still shows it isn't installed right?16:16
FxIIIjrib: continue with apt-get install -f i mean16:17
jribFxIII: what does it suggest?16:17
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FxIIIi pastbin16:17
FxIIIjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554762/16:17
jribFxIII: yeah16:18
FxIIIhahahaha16:18
FxIIIinternal error16:18
jribheh, really?16:19
FxIIIproblem with mountall :D16:19
jribwhat does it say?16:19
FxIIIinternal error, could not perform immediate configuration(2) on mountall16:19
FxIIIjrib:  can i forge installing the version of mountall i have on cache/apt/archives?16:21
FxIII*force16:21
FxIIIjrib: what about?16:23
jribFxIII: you can try and see16:23
jribI'm not sure where this error is from16:23
FxIIIjrib: the apt-get -f install seems to work now16:26
FxIIIjrib: but i belive the mountall  will not work16:26
FxIIIjrib: well it should after dist-upgrade if we are lucky and the missing dependencies are installed then16:27
* jrib nods16:28
FxIIIjrib: ok i will tell you when(if) it completes :D16:29
jribFxIII: alright, i'm going to step out now, bye :)16:36

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