[14:56] <jrib> FxIII: should be quieter in here
[14:57] <FxIII> jrib:  ok
[14:57] <jrib> FxIII: apt-cache policy libatk1.0-dev libatk1.0-0 plymouth libplymouth2 usplash
[14:58] <jrib> FxIII: I'm curious what « sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » suggests at this point too
[14:59] <FxIII> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554733/
[15:00] <FxIII> jrib: it suggest me to run apt-get -f install and complains as if i run apt-get -f install
[15:00] <FxIII> jrib: i can pastebind it if you want
[15:00] <jrib> sure
[15:00] <jrib> why is mountall on version 1.0, I don't understand
[15:01] <FxIII> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554734/
[15:01] <jrib> FxIII: sudo apt-get install plymouth  (do you know why it's not installed?)
[15:02] <FxIII> jrib: i belive it was unistalling the old packet when the boom appends
[15:02] <jrib> I see
[15:03] <FxIII> plymounth depends libplymounth2 but is not going to be installed...
[15:04] <FxIII> i pastebin
[15:04] <jrib> FxIII: no need
[15:04] <FxIII> jrib: ok thanks :D
[15:04] <jrib> FxIII: sudo apt-get install libplymouth2    we chase the rabbit this way...
[15:05] <FxIII> it breaks mountall (<2.8) but 1.0 is to be installed
[15:05] <jrib> FxIII: sudo apt-get intsall libplymouth2 plymouth mountall
[15:06] <FxIII> pymounth breaks gdm
[15:06] <jrib> heh, pastebin?
[15:06] <FxIII> shal i add gdm?
[15:06] <FxIII> just a moment
[15:06] <jrib> yeah sure, you can add it; just make sure there's an old gdm installed with apt-cache policy gdm
[15:07] <FxIII> installed 2.28.1-0ubuntu2.2, candidate 2.30.2.is.2.30.0-ubuntu4
[15:07] <jrib> k
[15:08] <jrib> getting a snack, brb
[15:08] <FxIII> ?
[15:09] <FxIII> what about the partial upgrade proposed by the graphical package upgrade?
[15:10] <jrib> you can try if you want
[15:10] <FxIII> I simply dont know what it does (i ever have a shiver when i do thigs that i dont know)
[15:11] <FxIII> ok i try the partial upgrade then i see what append
[15:11] <jrib> FxIII: it should tell you what it wants to do, no?  There's usually a "details" button you can press
[15:11] <FxIII> yeah jrib , until the power goes down :D
[15:11] <jrib> ha
[15:12] <FxIII> I will tell when it finished (if you are still here ;)
[15:12] <FxIII> no way
[15:13] <FxIII> Broken packages
[15:13] <jrib> let me guess... mountall?
[15:13] <FxIII> does not tell :D
[15:13] <jrib> FxIII: sudo apt-get intsall libplymouth2 plymouth mountall gdm
[15:15] <FxIII> same erros, depends on things that are too old
[15:15] <FxIII> i can pastebin if you want
[15:15] <jrib> sure
[15:16] <FxIII> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554737/
[15:16] <jrib> one way around this is probably to remove mountall and then put it back, but if something goes wrong you probably won't be able to mount
[15:17] <FxIII> i got a look to synaptic that say there are 5 broken packages, what if i march then to reinstall?
[15:17] <FxIII> is the same right?
[15:18] <jrib> yeah
[15:18] <jrib> FxIII: try, sudo apt-get -f install libplymouth2 plymouth mountall gdm, i'm curious if -f actually does anything
[15:18] <FxIII> but it reinstall other packages and update other ones (mountall included)
[15:18] <FxIII> ok
[15:18] <FxIII> leaving synaptic
[15:19] <jrib> FxIII: it updated mountall?
[15:19] <jrib> what's apt-cache policy mountall say now?
[15:19] <FxIII> i do notthing with synaptic
[15:19] <FxIII> same error
[15:20] <FxIII> mountall installed 1.0 candidate 2.15.3
[15:20] <FxIII> need the output?
[15:21] <jrib> FxIII: I give you a choice :)  1) remove mountall with dpkg and then try to upgrade everything and reinstall mountall  2) continue adding things to apt-get install list
[15:21] <FxIII> what about 3) using synaptic to reinstall brocken packages? probably is the same of 2.
[15:21] <jrib> FxIII: ok try 3
[15:21] <FxIII> :D
[15:22] <FxIII> it tell me it will update mountall libatk1.0-dev
[15:22] <jrib> k
[15:23] <FxIII> among other
[15:24] <FxIII> ok fingercross
[15:25] <FxIII> hahaha
[15:25] <FxIII> internal error, could not perform immediate configuration(2) on plymouth
[15:26] <FxIII> cant plymouth be wiped out :D
[15:26] <jrib> you don't have plymouth installed
[15:27] <FxIII> you are right
[15:27] <FxIII> i can unmark it
[15:28] <FxIII> no way...
[15:30] <FxIII> ok i'm starting to think that is faster to recover data and reinstall
[15:30] <jrib> (1) is fast if it works.  (2) I don't know how many more things you will have to add
[15:31] <FxIII> i mean to copy /home and reinstall the ubuntu from scrach
[15:31] <jrib> sure, you can do that
[15:32] <padhu> FxIII: You can, try partimage
[15:34] <FxIII> iìis not installed and I dont know how to do it :D
[15:35] <jrib> FxIII: partimage allows you to backup partitions, it's not really useful to you in this case
[15:35] <padhu> jrib: we can restore it
[15:36] <FxIII> I can tar the whole home from root in single user mode
[15:36] <jrib> padhu: but he would be restoring the broken parts as well
[15:36] <FxIII> it makes sense?
[15:36] <jrib> FxIII: sure, I still think you can fix this using (1) or (2) though.  But since installing ubuntu is pretty quick, that's probably easier
[15:37] <jrib> FxIII: after you have backups, try (1) if you don't mind :)
[15:38] <FxIII> jrib:
[15:38] <FxIII> jrib: lets try 1) :D
[15:39] <FxIII>  sudo dpkg -u mountall ?
[15:39] <jrib> FxIII: -r, not -u
[15:39] <FxIII> ok
[15:40] <FxIII> dependency problems prevent removal of mountall : upstart depends on mountall
[15:41] <jrib> FxIII: force its removal
[15:41] <FxIII> jrib: how? -rf?
[15:42] <FxIII> --force-depends?
[15:42] <jrib> FxIII: you should have backups before we do this
[15:42] <jrib> FxIII: yeah
[15:43] <FxIII> i can always access the partition from a live disk right?
[15:43] <FxIII> jrib:
[15:43] <jrib> FxIII: right
[15:44] <FxIII> jrib: here we go!
[15:44] <FxIII> jrib: it appears it does all
[15:45] <FxIII> it says that "ureadahead will be reprofiled on enxt reboot"
[15:45] <FxIII> what now?
[15:45] <jrib> now do « apt-get -f install »
[15:45] <FxIII> jrib: ok
[15:46] <FxIII> not there ise the problem on libatk1.0-dev and ubuntu-netbook-remix
[15:46] <FxIII> i pastebin jrib
[15:47] <jrib> FxIII: just remove the -dev, not necessary anyway
[15:47] <jrib> you can always reinstall it later if you want
[15:47] <FxIII> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554753/
[15:47] <FxIII> jrib:  how? with apt-get or with dpkg?
[15:47] <jrib> FxIII: apt-get will probably complain about the other issues
[15:48] <FxIII> libgtk2.0-dev depends on libatk1.0-dev
[15:48] <FxIII> jrib: do i force as before?
[15:48] <jrib> FxIII: nah leave it
[15:49] <FxIII> what now?
[15:50] <FxIII> jrib: what now?
[15:50] <jrib> FxIII: lets try to sort out the libatk issue I suppose.  This wasn't as fast as I thought :P: sudo apt-get install libatk1.0-0
[15:51] <FxIII> is the newset version
[15:51] <jrib> oh
[15:51] <jrib> erm
[15:51] <FxIII> jrib:  the other errors remains
[15:51] <jrib> apt-cache policy libatk1.0-dev libatk1.0-0
[15:52] <FxIII> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554755/
[15:53] <jrib> oh I see so apt-get install is stupid :(
[15:53] <jrib> what happens when you do: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:54] <jrib> or apt-get -f dist-upgrade, maybe that will try to install mountall at the same time
[15:54] <FxIII> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554756/
[15:55] <jrib> sigh
[15:55] <jrib> why is trying to install the old atk -dev
[15:55] <jrib> maybe it checks deps before upgrading at all
[15:55] <FxIII> -f?
[15:55] <jrib> you can try, I'm not sure it will work
[15:55] <FxIII> same erros
[15:56] <jrib> let's just remove it, sudo apt-get remove libgtk2.0-dev libatk1.0-dev
[15:56] <jrib> or dpkg if it complains with apt-get
[15:57] <FxIII> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554757/
[15:57] <jrib> use dpkg
[15:58] <jrib> oh wait
[15:58] <jrib> it's not complaining about atk anymore so I guess that was removed
[15:58] <jrib> now lets try installing mountall again: sudo apt-get install mountall
[15:58] <FxIII> not removed
[15:59] <FxIII> kuvatk1.0-dev depends yadda yadda
[15:59] <jrib> hmm?
[15:59] <FxIII> i belive it does not removed but simpy suppress the error
[15:59] <jrib> use dpkg to remove libgtk2.0-dev libatk1.0-dev if atk is still an issue
[16:00] <FxIII> removed
[16:00] <jrib> alright and what happens when you try to install mountall?
[16:01] <FxIII> mount all depends plymouth but is not going to be installed
[16:01] <FxIII> *mountall
[16:02] <FxIII> jrib: what about reinstall upstart from synaptic?
[16:03] <jrib> FxIII: guess you have to start specifying things again plymouth libplymouth2  etc.  I don't think synaptic will help
[16:03] <FxIII> probably it will remove all and try to reinstall lather
[16:03] <FxIII> *later
[16:03] <jrib> k
[16:03] <jrib> good luck
[16:03] <jrib> I'm gonna step out for a bit
[16:04] <jrib> FxIII: note without mountall you probably won't be able to boot successfully
[16:04] <FxIII> now dis-upgrade complains about upstart and netbook remix only
[16:04] <FxIII> *dis-upgrade
[16:04] <jrib> FxIII: oh?  What did you do differently?
[16:05] <jrib> you removed upstart?
[16:05] <FxIII> no no
[16:05] <FxIII> i did notting
[16:05] <jrib> weird.
[16:05] <jrib> :P
[16:05] <FxIII> what about try to reinstall upstart?
[16:06] <jrib> well you can probably remove ubuntu-netbook-remix and usplash-theme-ubuntu and reinstall them once you successfully upgrade all of the other packages
[16:07] <FxIII> jrib: half world depends on them :D
[16:07] <jrib> ah
[16:08] <FxIII> whait
[16:08] <FxIII> i have a /var/cache/apt/archives full of archives downloaded by dist-upgrade
[16:08] <FxIII> are they usefull?
[16:08] <jrib> oh right
[16:08] <FxIII> jrib:
[16:09] <jrib> pastebin apt-cache policy mountall again?  I remember you had a few versions available
[16:09] <jrib> maybe we can install the one that matches up with the state your system is currently in
[16:10] <FxIII> in cache i have 2.15.3_i386.deb
[16:11] <FxIII> jrib: i belive it is useless
[16:12] <FxIII> jrib: can i try the synaptic reinstall of upstart and co now that there are no other package broken?
[16:12] <jrib> FxIII: i don't think it will help, but you can try
[16:12] <FxIII> jrib: (probably there will be the same error for plymouth)
[16:12] <FxIII> it complains about mountall
[16:12] <FxIII> nevermind
[16:13] <FxIII> may i remove all the netbook-remix stuff?
[16:14] <jrib> sure, it's not really essential; you can bring it back later
[16:14] <FxIII> jrib: with usplash-theme-ubuntu?
[16:15] <FxIII> apt-get remove does not work
[16:16] <FxIII> jrib: eureka! removed ubuntu stuff with dpkg and now apt-get install -f sems to work!
[16:16] <jrib> except your system still is broken :P
[16:16] <FxIII> shall i continue jrib ?
[16:16] <jrib> apt-cache policy mountall  still shows it isn't installed right?
[16:17] <FxIII> jrib: continue with apt-get install -f i mean
[16:17] <jrib> FxIII: what does it suggest?
[16:17] <FxIII> i pastbin
[16:17] <FxIII> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554762/
[16:18] <jrib> FxIII: yeah
[16:18] <FxIII> hahahaha
[16:18] <FxIII> internal error
[16:19] <jrib> heh, really?
[16:19] <FxIII> problem with mountall :D
[16:19] <jrib> what does it say?
[16:19] <FxIII> internal error, could not perform immediate configuration(2) on mountall
[16:21] <FxIII> jrib:  can i forge installing the version of mountall i have on cache/apt/archives?
[16:21] <FxIII> *force
[16:23] <FxIII> jrib: what about?
[16:23] <jrib> FxIII: you can try and see
[16:23] <jrib> I'm not sure where this error is from
[16:26] <FxIII> jrib: the apt-get -f install seems to work now
[16:26] <FxIII> jrib: but i belive the mountall  will not work
[16:27] <FxIII> jrib: well it should after dist-upgrade if we are lucky and the missing dependencies are installed then
[16:28]  * jrib nods
[16:29] <FxIII> jrib: ok i will tell you when(if) it completes :D
[16:36] <jrib> FxIII: alright, i'm going to step out now, bye :)