| psusi | does anyone remember when the toolchain moved to gcc 4.5? was it after alpha 1? | 00:53 |
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| penguin42 | psusi: From my dpkg.log I'd say I 1st got it 12th December | 01:00 |
| psusi | hrm... I be that bug is also what is causing unity to foul up when you right click on it and it tries to display the transparent menu | 01:04 |
| psusi | that's about when it started doing that | 01:04 |
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| GreenRollup | DAMN GIRL. ELKY YOU IN THE DEVEL? well shoot. you have some sexy cards up your sleeve | 06:30 |
| GreenRollup | how you doing maco? | 06:30 |
| slangasek | SpamapS: restarting portmap doesn't seem to actually cause statd to be restarted (at least in maverick), because 'ON_BOOT=' doesn't match a job that doesn't have ON_BOOT as a variable at all... does this work in natty? | 06:31 |
| GreenRollup | you know i head a dream | 06:32 |
| GreenRollup | it was some sort of october get together at my school | 06:32 |
| GreenRollup | and then nude 3d models were on the sc reen | 06:32 |
| GreenRollup | and popcorn all over the place | 06:32 |
| GreenRollup | then a shooter starting shooting us | 06:32 |
| slangasek | GreenRollup: this channel is for Ubuntu development; please take your comments elsewhere | 06:33 |
| GreenRollup | i was shot in the head by a second shooter because i was distracted by a bright light | 06:33 |
| GreenRollup | ok | 06:33 |
| akshatj | !offtopic ! GreenRollup | 06:33 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 06:33 |
| akshatj | !offtopic | GreenRollup | 06:34 |
| ubottu | GreenRollup: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 06:34 |
| GreenRollup | !bannedfromofftopic | akshatj | 06:34 |
| slangasek | SpamapS: got it sorted - requires fixes on both the portmap and statd jobs (env ON_BOOT=; then an order of operations bug in the statd start condition.) | 06:43 |
| aalex | I am a Debian maintainer. How can I file a bug to ask for a package's version to be more recent for the next Natty release? (the version at the freeze date contains bugs) | 08:27 |
| bryceh | aalex, there is a requestsync script | 08:30 |
| aalex | bryceh, in ubuntu-dev-tools ? | 08:32 |
| bryceh | aalex, or just file a bug report at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - "Please sync foobar <version> from debian" against the appropriate package | 08:32 |
| aalex | (I'm on Lucid right now) | 08:32 |
| bryceh | aalex, yes, that's right | 08:33 |
| aalex | bryceh, Or there: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/toonloop/natty | 08:33 |
| aalex | bryceh, $ requestsync -s toonloop natty ? | 08:39 |
| aalex | bryceh, given that GPGKEY=25DAAC75 | 08:40 |
| aalex | E: No credentials found for 'ubuntu-dev-tools', please see the manage-credentials manpage for help on how to create one for this consumer. | 08:44 |
| aalex | :-( | 08:44 |
| aalex | E: Could not connect to fiordland.ubuntu.com:25: No route to host (113) | 08:44 |
| nucc1 | hi, i get this error while trying to build evolution http://pastie.org/1465981 . anyone know what I'm missing? | 09:11 |
| geser | nucc1: install "dh-autoreconf" and "gnome-pkg-tools" | 09:23 |
| nucc1 | geser, thanks, i sort of guessed the gnome-pkg-tools one though :) | 09:24 |
| geser | aalex: does the computer you run requestsync on have a working internet connection? | 09:25 |
| aalex | geser, no | 09:34 |
| geser | aalex: requestsync can either mail the bug report to Launchpad (with smtp) or file it directly (with http; LP API) | 09:35 |
| aalex | geser, ok... how can I get it to work the easiest way? | 09:36 |
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| aalex | I never got reportbug to work either | 09:36 |
| geser | aalex: can you run requestsync from the box you use right now for IRC? | 09:38 |
| dupondje | gdm bit broken atm in Natty ? | 09:41 |
| nucc1 | "pbuilder-dist <release> build ../<package>_<version>.dsc" is there some way to make this command take advantage of multiple cpu cores? it seems to be doing only one thread | 09:55 |
| geser | nucc1: does the package support parallel building? | 09:57 |
| nucc1 | geser, i'm not sure, and i don't know how to find that out | 09:58 |
| nucc1 | when building from tarballs, i normally run make -j2 and that does the trick | 09:59 |
| nucc1 | the package is 'evolution' | 09:59 |
| geser | nucc1: check the packaging if it does something similar | 09:59 |
| nucc1 | packaging? | 10:00 |
| geser | the files in the debian/ directory | 10:00 |
| geser | more specific debian/rules | 10:00 |
| nucc1 | geser, i could add -j2 to the #! /usr/bin/make -f on the first line? | 10:03 |
| aalex | geser, no, I get that error E: Could not connect to fiordland.ubuntu.com:25: No route to host (113) | 10:03 |
| aalex | geser, maybe I can change the server? | 10:04 |
| geser | nucc1: don't know if that would work | 10:04 |
| nucc1 | if it supports parallel building, what would i have found in the file? | 10:05 |
| geser | nucc1: packages supporting it, check the value of "parallel" from the DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS env variable and use this for -jX | 10:06 |
| geser | aalex: you can use DEBSMTP to specify a different smtp server | 10:07 |
| aalex | geser, ok. thanks | 10:08 |
| geser | aalex: what about the patch the Ubuntu package of "toonloop" has? and I've tried to build 2.0.4 in Ubuntu natty and it fails to build | 10:08 |
| aalex | geser, does it need libboost-system, maybe? I fixed it upstream... need to test it on natty first I guess. | 10:11 |
| aalex | geser, I can use pbuilder for that on a maverick box? | 10:12 |
| geser | aalex: yes, you can setup a natty pbuilder on maverick | 10:12 |
| aalex | geser, I'll make sure to test it on natty first, next I'll upload it to debian, and then ask for the sync | 10:13 |
| aalex | (I'm also upstream) | 10:13 |
| geser | aalex: the error is "configure: error: libstk is not installed: alsa" | 10:14 |
| aalex | oh | 10:14 |
| geser | aalex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554658/ (from config.log) | 10:15 |
| geser | the problem is the "-lstk" before the conftest.cpp; this order doesn't with "ld --as-needed" anymore. You should be able to reproduce this with "binutils-gold" in Debian | 10:16 |
| aalex | geser, But libstk0-dev is on natty too. http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libstk0-dev | 10:16 |
| geser | aalex: not the build-dependency is the issue, but configure.ac; you put "-lstk" into LDFLAGS instead of LIBS | 10:18 |
| aalex | geser, is there a patch? | 10:19 |
| geser | give me a minute | 10:19 |
| aalex | geser, great :) | 10:25 |
| geser | aalex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554663/ is needed to get past configure and to start building | 10:25 |
| nucc1 | geser, is there a shorter means to testing the changes i've made to a package? having to build a .deb and install is quite a long process | 10:26 |
| geser | aalex: but it fails later with a linking error about boost_system | 10:26 |
| aalex | geser, yeah... that's fixed in both upstream and the ubuntu package | 10:26 |
| aalex | here is my fix: http://github.com/aalex/toonloop/commit/750bd649c12e4e23c768b8eec602c950c5af3858 | 10:27 |
| geser | nucc1: not that I know of if you change source code (ccache might speed up the compilation) | 10:28 |
| aalex | geser, so, I should put "-lstk" in LIBS, not LDFLAGS? | 10:33 |
| geser | yes | 10:33 |
| geser | with "ld --as-needed" (which natty uses by default) the linking order matters: a library gets only linked in when an object file *before* it on the command line uses one of its symbols | 10:35 |
| aalex | oh | 10:35 |
| geser | if you put "-lstk" into LDFLAGS it gets put before the object file (here: conftest.cpp) while LIBS are put after it by configure | 10:36 |
| aalex | geser, http://paste.debian.net/104729/ ? | 10:36 |
| geser | yes | 10:37 |
| aalex | geser: thanks a lot! I'll make a new upstream release and try it on natty later on. | 10:38 |
| aalex | this could have been done with quilt, but anyways... I'm also upstream, so let's use it. | 10:40 |
| geser | bryceh: if I try the new X stack from xorg-edgers, can I keep updating from it once it landed in natty or will I have to manually "upgrade" to the official packages? | 10:42 |
| nucc1 | geser, how can i build the associated dbg packages? | 10:51 |
| geser | evolution-dbg? this one you should get automatically as it's part of the package building process | 10:53 |
| nucc1 | yea, i can't find it in the pbuilder directory where the .deb packages are | 10:54 |
| nucc1 | ah, seen it. | 10:54 |
| aalex | geser, Fixed and released: http://github.com/aalex/toonloop/commit/cce7f7d4f346c47ddbf9c2e07c6aeac92bea6341 | 10:54 |
| aalex | later, | 10:55 |
| geser | nice :) | 10:55 |
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| grnd44 | greetings. I noticed the async initramfs patchset has been shipping in U for several releases; could you enlighten me on why it's not upstream? | 12:56 |
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| kaydsoft | Hi ..... would anyone who happens to be workin on natty answer this question .... what is the default python interpretor on natty .... zit 2.x ow 3.x? | 15:53 |
| kaydsoft | or am I askin the question in the wrong place? | 15:55 |
| \sh | kaydsoft: 2.x | 15:56 |
| kaydsoft | <\sh> | 15:57 |
| kaydsoft | when will u start support for | 15:57 |
| kaydsoft | 3.x | 15:57 |
| \sh | most likely when most of all python packages do support 3.x ? more infos can doko give you when he's awake or back from dallas i think | 15:58 |
| kaydsoft | k thsnx | 15:59 |
| \sh | kaydsoft: but python 3 is also in the archives...and some of the packages are building already python3 bin pkgs | 15:59 |
| \sh | afaik...I'm not focussing on py3 right now | 15:59 |
| kaydsoft | k | 15:59 |
| kaydsoft | so I should tka my focus fwom py3 | 16:00 |
| kaydsoft | n settle for py2 | 16:00 |
| kaydsoft | ? | 16:00 |
| \sh | kaydsoft: depends on you? :) | 16:03 |
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| kaydsoft | k | 16:19 |
| pavolzetor | hi, why my program reports tihs? | 17:12 |
| pavolzetor | ./xml_parser rss.xml Cannot connect to destination (127.0.0.1) | 17:12 |
| pavolzetor | It is written in vala | 17:12 |
| pavolzetor | I have ubuntu natty | 17:12 |
| pavolzetor | this works http://localhost:59693/_utils/index.html | 17:13 |
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| slangasek | SpamapS: so now that statd is sorted, I'm trying to work out bug #643289 as well for idmapd... maybe you see an easy way out of this that I've overlooked :) | 20:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 643289 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "idmapd does not starts to work after system reboot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/643289 | 20:58 |
| cxo | There is a "liblastfm0" package provided on ubuntu. Its the (now) official last.fm backed library that uses Nokia QT. I wrote a lastfm library in pure C and I want to package it for Ubuntu. What do i call it? | 22:38 |
| cxo | Oh do i need to be in #ubuntu-app-devel? | 22:39 |
| Tm_T | cxo: you mean Qt? | 22:40 |
| Tm_T | cxo: and you can call it anything you like, as long as it's not "liblastfm" | 22:41 |
| cxo | How annoying | 22:42 |
| cxo | I wonder if i asked nicely if they would rename theirs to libqt-lastfm | 22:43 |
| cxo | So I have no idea what to call it now. Any suggestions? | 22:43 |
| Tm_T | liblastfm-c (; | 22:44 |
| cxo | liblastfmlib | 22:44 |
| Tm_T | or to be witty, "libfirstfm" | 22:44 |
| cxo | I remember there used to be a taglib and a libtag., once upon a time | 22:44 |
| Tm_T | taglib package is called libtaglib (lib prefix for library package) | 22:45 |
| Tm_T | or something | 22:45 |
| cxo | The reason i wrote my own implementation is because having to pull in qt for just one silly lib is such drag for people who use gnome | 22:46 |
| cxo | http://liblastfm.sourceforge.net/ | 22:47 |
| cxo | I have the name on launchpad actually | 22:47 |
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| cxo | Tm_T, in terms of packaging. Can i include a "breaks:" param in the control file to say its not compatible with the other library? | 22:49 |
| Tm_T | err, I see no point having it to break the other library | 22:50 |
| Tm_T | actually, you have to make sure it doesn't break it | 22:52 |
| cxo | Is there an easy apt-trick way to find out which apps in the repo actually use that library? | 22:57 |
| Tm_T | apt-cache rdepends liblastfm0 | 23:01 |
| cxo | So its basically used for one QT/KDE app - Amarok | 23:02 |
| cxo | No surprising. Unless you're writing a QT app, no point on using that library. | 23:03 |
| cxo | s/No/Not/ | 23:03 |
| Tm_T | still you must avoid breaking it, installing your library should never break other apps unless it's absolutely necessary | 23:04 |
| cxo | Yeah. I'm going to ask them to change their library name to reflect the toolkit bias | 23:06 |
| cxo | Thanks for the help | 23:08 |
| Tm_T | np | 23:09 |
| cxo | I heard that banshee is going to be replacing rhythmbox in 11.04. Is that true? | 23:11 |
| micahg | cxo: I think it's already done | 23:18 |
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| cxo | Does this now make mono an "essential" package? | 23:19 |
| micahg | cxo: no, we use seeds for defaults not essential | 23:20 |
| cxo | Sorry, what does that mean? | 23:26 |
| micahg | cxo: there's a file used to generate the dependencies for ubuntu-desktop | 23:29 |
| cxo | So I'm guessing the majority of ubuntu users are now using banshee, thats why the switch? | 23:40 |
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| micahg | cxo: not necessarily, but it was decided at UDS to switch to it as the default music player | 23:48 |
| cxo | hmm | 23:49 |
| cxo | What do you use? | 23:49 |
| micahg | cxo: I use Xubuntu, but I also use banshee | 23:49 |
| cxo | Oh interesting. Don't like Amarok? | 23:50 |
| micahg | cxo: Dropped it a while back when I needed ipod support | 23:50 |
| cxo | It would be nice to have something like libipod (or whatever its called) hooked into nautilus, so every media player doesnt have to duplicate the code | 23:53 |
| micahg | cxo: there's libgpod | 23:54 |
| cxo | If you're not too busy, I'd like to see what banshee looks like on Xubuntu. Can you post a screenshot? | 23:55 |
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