[00:53] does anyone remember when the toolchain moved to gcc 4.5? was it after alpha 1? [01:00] psusi: From my dpkg.log I'd say I 1st got it 12th December [01:04] hrm... I be that bug is also what is causing unity to foul up when you right click on it and it tries to display the transparent menu [01:04] that's about when it started doing that === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq === TerminX_ is now known as TerminX === james is now known as Guest67345 === emma is now known as em === james is now known as Guest56292 [06:30] DAMN GIRL. ELKY YOU IN THE DEVEL? well shoot. you have some sexy cards up your sleeve [06:30] how you doing maco? [06:31] SpamapS: restarting portmap doesn't seem to actually cause statd to be restarted (at least in maverick), because 'ON_BOOT=' doesn't match a job that doesn't have ON_BOOT as a variable at all... does this work in natty? [06:32] you know i head a dream [06:32] it was some sort of october get together at my school [06:32] and then nude 3d models were on the sc reen [06:32] and popcorn all over the place [06:32] then a shooter starting shooting us [06:33] GreenRollup: this channel is for Ubuntu development; please take your comments elsewhere [06:33] i was shot in the head by a second shooter because i was distracted by a bright light [06:33] ok [06:33] !offtopic ! GreenRollup [06:33] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [06:34] !offtopic | GreenRollup [06:34] GreenRollup: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [06:34] !bannedfromofftopic | akshatj [06:43] SpamapS: got it sorted - requires fixes on both the portmap and statd jobs (env ON_BOOT=; then an order of operations bug in the statd start condition.) [08:27] I am a Debian maintainer. How can I file a bug to ask for a package's version to be more recent for the next Natty release? (the version at the freeze date contains bugs) [08:30] aalex, there is a requestsync script [08:32] bryceh, in ubuntu-dev-tools ? [08:32] aalex, or just file a bug report at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - "Please sync foobar from debian" against the appropriate package [08:32] (I'm on Lucid right now) [08:33] aalex, yes, that's right [08:33] bryceh, Or there: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/toonloop/natty [08:39] bryceh, $ requestsync -s toonloop natty ? [08:40] bryceh, given that GPGKEY=25DAAC75 [08:44] E: No credentials found for 'ubuntu-dev-tools', please see the manage-credentials manpage for help on how to create one for this consumer. [08:44] :-( [08:44] E: Could not connect to fiordland.ubuntu.com:25: No route to host (113) [09:11] hi, i get this error while trying to build evolution http://pastie.org/1465981 . anyone know what I'm missing? [09:23] nucc1: install "dh-autoreconf" and "gnome-pkg-tools" [09:24] geser, thanks, i sort of guessed the gnome-pkg-tools one though :) [09:25] aalex: does the computer you run requestsync on have a working internet connection? [09:34] geser, no [09:35] aalex: requestsync can either mail the bug report to Launchpad (with smtp) or file it directly (with http; LP API) [09:36] geser, ok... how can I get it to work the easiest way? === popey_ is now known as popey [09:36] I never got reportbug to work either [09:38] aalex: can you run requestsync from the box you use right now for IRC? [09:41] gdm bit broken atm in Natty ? [09:55] "pbuilder-dist build ../_.dsc" is there some way to make this command take advantage of multiple cpu cores? it seems to be doing only one thread [09:57] nucc1: does the package support parallel building? [09:58] geser, i'm not sure, and i don't know how to find that out [09:59] when building from tarballs, i normally run make -j2 and that does the trick [09:59] the package is 'evolution' [09:59] nucc1: check the packaging if it does something similar [10:00] packaging? [10:00] the files in the debian/ directory [10:00] more specific debian/rules [10:03] geser, i could add -j2 to the #! /usr/bin/make -f on the first line? [10:03] geser, no, I get that error E: Could not connect to fiordland.ubuntu.com:25: No route to host (113) [10:04] geser, maybe I can change the server? [10:04] nucc1: don't know if that would work [10:05] if it supports parallel building, what would i have found in the file? [10:06] nucc1: packages supporting it, check the value of "parallel" from the DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS env variable and use this for -jX [10:07] aalex: you can use DEBSMTP to specify a different smtp server [10:08] geser, ok. thanks [10:08] aalex: what about the patch the Ubuntu package of "toonloop" has? and I've tried to build 2.0.4 in Ubuntu natty and it fails to build [10:11] geser, does it need libboost-system, maybe? I fixed it upstream... need to test it on natty first I guess. [10:12] geser, I can use pbuilder for that on a maverick box? [10:12] aalex: yes, you can setup a natty pbuilder on maverick [10:13] geser, I'll make sure to test it on natty first, next I'll upload it to debian, and then ask for the sync [10:13] (I'm also upstream) [10:14] aalex: the error is "configure: error: libstk is not installed: alsa" [10:14] oh [10:15] aalex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554658/ (from config.log) [10:16] the problem is the "-lstk" before the conftest.cpp; this order doesn't with "ld --as-needed" anymore. You should be able to reproduce this with "binutils-gold" in Debian [10:16] geser, But libstk0-dev is on natty too. http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libstk0-dev [10:18] aalex: not the build-dependency is the issue, but configure.ac; you put "-lstk" into LDFLAGS instead of LIBS [10:19] geser, is there a patch? [10:19] give me a minute [10:25] geser, great :) [10:25] aalex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554663/ is needed to get past configure and to start building [10:26] geser, is there a shorter means to testing the changes i've made to a package? having to build a .deb and install is quite a long process [10:26] aalex: but it fails later with a linking error about boost_system [10:26] geser, yeah... that's fixed in both upstream and the ubuntu package [10:27] here is my fix: http://github.com/aalex/toonloop/commit/750bd649c12e4e23c768b8eec602c950c5af3858 [10:28] nucc1: not that I know of if you change source code (ccache might speed up the compilation) [10:33] geser, so, I should put "-lstk" in LIBS, not LDFLAGS? [10:33] yes [10:35] with "ld --as-needed" (which natty uses by default) the linking order matters: a library gets only linked in when an object file *before* it on the command line uses one of its symbols [10:35] oh [10:36] if you put "-lstk" into LDFLAGS it gets put before the object file (here: conftest.cpp) while LIBS are put after it by configure [10:36] geser, http://paste.debian.net/104729/ ? [10:37] yes [10:38] geser: thanks a lot! I'll make a new upstream release and try it on natty later on. [10:40] this could have been done with quilt, but anyways... I'm also upstream, so let's use it. [10:42] bryceh: if I try the new X stack from xorg-edgers, can I keep updating from it once it landed in natty or will I have to manually "upgrade" to the official packages? [10:51] geser, how can i build the associated dbg packages? [10:53] evolution-dbg? this one you should get automatically as it's part of the package building process [10:54] yea, i can't find it in the pbuilder directory where the .deb packages are [10:54] ah, seen it. [10:54] geser, Fixed and released: http://github.com/aalex/toonloop/commit/cce7f7d4f346c47ddbf9c2e07c6aeac92bea6341 [10:55] later, [10:55] nice :) === s1aden is now known as sladen === DrKranz is now known as DktrKranz [12:56] greetings. I noticed the async initramfs patchset has been shipping in U for several releases; could you enlighten me on why it's not upstream? === yofel_ is now known as yofel === james is now known as Guest20740 === emma is now known as em [15:53] Hi ..... would anyone who happens to be workin on natty answer this question .... what is the default python interpretor on natty .... zit 2.x ow 3.x? [15:55] or am I askin the question in the wrong place? [15:56] <\sh> kaydsoft: 2.x [15:57] <\sh> [15:57] when will u start support for [15:57] 3.x [15:58] <\sh> most likely when most of all python packages do support 3.x ? more infos can doko give you when he's awake or back from dallas i think [15:59] k thsnx [15:59] <\sh> kaydsoft: but python 3 is also in the archives...and some of the packages are building already python3 bin pkgs [15:59] <\sh> afaik...I'm not focussing on py3 right now [15:59] k [16:00] so I should tka my focus fwom py3 [16:00] n settle for py2 [16:00] ? [16:03] <\sh> kaydsoft: depends on you? :) === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === GH12345 is now known as GH1234 [16:19] k [17:12] hi, why my program reports tihs? [17:12] ./xml_parser rss.xml Cannot connect to destination (127.0.0.1) [17:12] It is written in vala [17:12] I have ubuntu natty [17:13] this works http://localhost:59693/_utils/index.html === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === ogra is now known as Guest18506 === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [20:57] SpamapS: so now that statd is sorted, I'm trying to work out bug #643289 as well for idmapd... maybe you see an easy way out of this that I've overlooked :) [20:58] Launchpad bug 643289 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "idmapd does not starts to work after system reboot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/643289 [22:38] There is a "liblastfm0" package provided on ubuntu. Its the (now) official last.fm backed library that uses Nokia QT. I wrote a lastfm library in pure C and I want to package it for Ubuntu. What do i call it? [22:39] Oh do i need to be in #ubuntu-app-devel? [22:40] cxo: you mean Qt? [22:41] cxo: and you can call it anything you like, as long as it's not "liblastfm" [22:42] How annoying [22:43] I wonder if i asked nicely if they would rename theirs to libqt-lastfm [22:43] So I have no idea what to call it now. Any suggestions? [22:44] liblastfm-c (; [22:44] liblastfmlib [22:44] or to be witty, "libfirstfm" [22:44] I remember there used to be a taglib and a libtag., once upon a time [22:45] taglib package is called libtaglib (lib prefix for library package) [22:45] or something [22:46] The reason i wrote my own implementation is because having to pull in qt for just one silly lib is such drag for people who use gnome [22:47] http://liblastfm.sourceforge.net/ [22:47] I have the name on launchpad actually === lan3y is now known as Laney [22:49] Tm_T, in terms of packaging. Can i include a "breaks:" param in the control file to say its not compatible with the other library? [22:50] err, I see no point having it to break the other library [22:52] actually, you have to make sure it doesn't break it [22:57] Is there an easy apt-trick way to find out which apps in the repo actually use that library? [23:01] apt-cache rdepends liblastfm0 [23:02] So its basically used for one QT/KDE app - Amarok [23:03] No surprising. Unless you're writing a QT app, no point on using that library. [23:03] s/No/Not/ [23:04] still you must avoid breaking it, installing your library should never break other apps unless it's absolutely necessary [23:06] Yeah. I'm going to ask them to change their library name to reflect the toolkit bias [23:08] Thanks for the help [23:09] np [23:11] I heard that banshee is going to be replacing rhythmbox in 11.04. Is that true? [23:18] cxo: I think it's already done === lionel__ is now known as lionel [23:19] Does this now make mono an "essential" package? [23:20] cxo: no, we use seeds for defaults not essential [23:26] Sorry, what does that mean? [23:29] cxo: there's a file used to generate the dependencies for ubuntu-desktop [23:40] So I'm guessing the majority of ubuntu users are now using banshee, thats why the switch? === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker` [23:48] cxo: not necessarily, but it was decided at UDS to switch to it as the default music player [23:49] hmm [23:49] What do you use? [23:49] cxo: I use Xubuntu, but I also use banshee [23:50] Oh interesting. Don't like Amarok? [23:50] cxo: Dropped it a while back when I needed ipod support [23:53] It would be nice to have something like libipod (or whatever its called) hooked into nautilus, so every media player doesnt have to duplicate the code [23:54] cxo: there's libgpod [23:55] If you're not too busy, I'd like to see what banshee looks like on Xubuntu. Can you post a screenshot?