[00:40] bdrung: That makes sense. Cheers. === emma is now known as em === popey_ is now known as popey [09:42] micahg: do you know if some of the till recently "supported" firefox extensions will come back or should I install them in my profile? (like firebug, adblock-plus and notify) === s1aden is now known as sladen === DrKranz is now known as DktrKranz === yofel_ is now known as yofel === emma is now known as em [15:12] geser: I don't think they're coming back, the only extensions we're going to have going forward are the arch specific ones [15:12] geser: unless Mozilla commits to stable branches ;) [15:15] ok === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [17:33] ari-tczew: ping [17:33] hyperair: pong [17:33] ari-tczew: i noticed you synced geany-plugins from squeeze [17:34] hyperair: dunno, perhaps. let me find it [17:34] ari-tczew: launchpad says you synced it from unstable 13 weeks ago. [17:34] 0.19-1 [17:35] hyperair: yes, I see: geany-plugins 0.19-1 0.19-0ubuntu1 [17:35] ari-tczew: geany-plugins in unstable had all the new plugins (introduced between 0.18 and 0.19) disabled, whereas they were enabled in 0.19-0ubuntu1. [17:35] ari-tczew: meaning that when you synced it, you pretty much disabled all the new plugin packages [17:36] hyperair: I don't remember the case. Unfortunately. What's next? [17:36] ari-tczew: please be more careful in auditing the ubuntu-specific changes in the future. [17:36] ari-tczew: 0.20 is out, and i'm uploading -0ubuntu1 to natty now. [17:36] I love this channel. [17:36] ari-tczew: please poke me before touching that package in the future. [17:37] ari-tczew: and please pay a little more attention to the debian-ubuntu delta, and make sure it can actually be dropped before syncing the package. [17:37] hyperair: I'm dealing with a lot of packages and I guess that in ~99% cases I'm right. Everyone could do mistake. [17:38] ari-tczew: i understand that it's a rare mistake. still, please be more careful in the future =) [17:38] ari-tczew: also, it's common practice to ping the last uploader of the package before touching it [17:38] in geany-plugins' case, i'm the last uploader. [17:39] nobody likes the carpet being pulled from under their feet. [17:39] hyperair: I'm careful as good as possible. You can track my done work. I can't remember any complaint since MOTUship. [17:40] (technicall complaint) [17:40] hakermania: why do you love this channel? [17:41] ari-tczew: There's always an open discussion about interesting things I haven't heard before :D [17:41] aha [17:41] ari-tczew: i understand that you're being as careful as you can. i'm just advising you on how you may prevent a similar slip to this one in the future. [17:41] ari-tczew: please don't get defensive. [17:42] hyperair: I'm easy. I just understand that there isn't a human which is 100% perfect in the world. [17:43] and I understand your bitterness. [17:43] ari-tczew: i'm not bitter about this. [17:43] i was just mildly surprised, and glad that i caught the mistake before Feature Freeze. [17:45] ari-tczew: i'm not looking for an apology or anything of that sort. i just giving you some friendly advice as a fellow ubuntu developer, that's all. [17:45] you mentioned that there isn't a human who's 100% perfect in the world. so there's always room for improvement, isn't there? =) [17:46] hyperair: OK, thanks for noticing and I didn't want to break anything. [17:46] =) [17:47] hyperair: Yes, always room are open for improvements. [17:47] room always * [17:47] =) [18:18] ScottK: clementine is ready. in lucid NEW. bug 703292 [18:18] Launchpad bug 703292 in lucid-backports "Backport clementine 0.6-0ubuntu5 to lucid from natty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703292 === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [20:40] Who gave the idea for "purchased software" section in USC ? [20:40] A really bad idea. [20:43] hakermania: here is not the place to rant about USC === Bachstel1e is now known as Bachstelze [20:43] Bachstelze: Oh, fine.. [21:02] May I ask? When I install my DEB, in the installed software of USC it says "Change Desktop Wallpapers automatically" as title and "Wallch" as description. How do I do the opposite? My control file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554859/ thx [22:07] hakermania: you can't. [22:08] tumbleweed: around? [22:08] bdrung: Is this automatically fixed when your package is advocated? [22:08] hakermania: "Change Desktop Wallpapers automatically!" is not the best short description. [22:08] bdrung: This is has to do with my own opinion I think. [22:09] hakermania: i don't think that an exclamation mark belong there. [22:09] bdrung: I've seen a lot of apps with (!) [22:15] Hey MOTU. I need to file a package for removal from the archives. No rdepends or r-recomends. It's a bad package, and I got it removed from Debian already [22:15] How can I file for it's removal? I'm guessing -dev-tools, but I'm not sure on procedure [22:16] paultag: -dev-tools? [22:17] we have no tool for requesting removal. [22:17] file it manually and either subscribe ubuntu-archive or ubuntu-sponsors [22:17] (depending of your upload rights) [22:17] bdrung: as a bug? Is there a template I can follow? [22:17] bdrung: no upload rights here [22:18] paultag: then ubuntu-sponsors. AFAIK there is no template. [22:18] bdrung: great. thanks so much [22:19] hakermania: i failed to find the recommendations for writing the description. [22:20] hakermania: i would prefer a short description without exclamation mark (e.g. "automatic desktop wallpaper changer") [22:22] hakermania: can you show me a screenshot of USC with your bug? [22:22] hakermania: i tested it on maverick and Wallch is shown in the title === sagaci_ is now known as sagaci [22:22] bdrung: wait, currently packaging [22:26] bdrung: http://i55.tinypic.com/2zy96h2.png [22:26] bdrung: filed as bug #703718. Thanks! [22:26] Launchpad bug 703718 in Ubuntu "Requesting removal of source package `fluxconf' from Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703718 [22:28] hakermania: it look consistent (short description on top, package name below) [22:29] bdrung: Is it right? [22:31] hakermania: hm, it looks inconsistent on my system. packages with a .desktop file use the desktop file name as title, but all other use the short description as title. [22:32] Hello. It seems like menumaker application is not available in debian. I've searched with $rmadison -u debian menumaker, with no result. This applicacion is a X Windows Managers menu generator and is not (apparentley) in Debian/Ubuntu [22:33] So, if it's possible, i'd like to package it (i'm learning) if i can [22:36] hakermania: i recommend to test natty and if it has the same behaviour, file a bug! [22:37] bdrung: To test natty? What? [22:37] Rcart: it's possible. just do it. [22:37] hakermania: test USC in natty. [22:38] bdrung: But natty will be available at 4/11 [22:38] ? [22:38] paultag: you should state that there are no rdepends and no b-d on it. [22:38] hakermania: nope. Ubuntu 11.04 will be available at 4/11. Until then it's called natty. ;) [22:39] bdrung: Where can I find it? [22:39] bdrung: thanks, i'm already working on it. [22:39] bdrung: sure. [22:39] hakermania: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing [22:40] bdrung: thx [22:40] hakermania: here are the latest cd spins: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [22:41] hakermania: i recommend to install it in a virtual machine, run it from a live usb stick or install it on a separate harddrive [22:41] bdrung: all set. thanks! [22:41] bdrung: This is what I'd do [22:42] Rcart: great. i recommend to get it into debian and then sync it to ubuntu. [22:45] paultag: ACK'd [22:45] bdrung: cheers, thanks for your time :) [22:46] bdrung: do i need to contact the application author(s)? [22:46] Rcart: no, but establishing an upstream relationship is a benefit if you maintain the package === lan3y is now known as Laney [22:55] Hey! It's dholbach's birthday today! === lionel__ is now known as lionel [23:48] you can't sing happy birthday