[00:04] Thus concludes the most busy (UTC) day in #ubuntu-offtopic this year :| [01:06] ubottu: tell jasono about away [01:31] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Pzwacmn appears to be abusive - 5) [01:31] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (sweet_hearted appears to be abusive - 5) [01:31] sorted ^ [01:31] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Guest_99 appears to be abusive - 5) [01:31] or not. [01:57] silvercrab: Hello! How can we help you? [01:58] I am lost about things [01:58] * rww ponders /whois silvercrab [01:59] i come from places with people [01:59] silvercrab: You're currently evading a ban set on you in #ubuntu-ops. Please part the channel. [01:59] you have no evidence only facts you are making out to be suspicious. [02:00] i encourage you to make your own decision [02:00] silvercrab: I strongly recommend you part the channel now and follow the appeals process that you've been told about. [02:00] i strongly recommend you drop your act and prove you know who i am [02:00] did you ban my ip address [02:01] i am still here [02:01] who is it do you think is silvercrab [02:01] !ops | silvercrab is brown_boar banevading [02:01] silvercrab is brown_boar banevading: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Tm_T, tritium, elky, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, imbrandon, PriceChild, Madpilot, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, tsimpson, gnomefreak, jussi, topyli, or nhandler! [02:01] rww called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (silvercrab is brown_boar banevading) [02:01] the lazy whore OP who cried wolf [02:01] why [02:02] er [02:02] charming. [02:02] very [02:04] I have been called many things. 'Whore' may be a new one. [02:04] wow. [02:05] Simultaneously, KungFu4/Grexo was giving me the usual death threats in PM, btw. So fed up of that guy :( [02:05] ah [02:06] that must be hard. i mean, it's only trolls, but still, death threats... [02:07] rww is he in channels somewhere? [02:07] elky: I just kicked him out of #ubuntu-offtopic, hence the PMs. He's currently voiced in ##defocus. [02:16] silvercrab is now nicked to BlueGrass, same IP. [02:28] now GreenRollup [02:48] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (sd09hjas appears to be abusive - 4.5) [02:48] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (dufyhn appears to be abusive - 4.5) [02:48] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (ieataz appears to be abusive - 4.5) [03:18] reading -ot is hurting my brain todya [03:18] today* [03:20] It's been getting worse than usual again the last few weeks :( [03:22] I fail to understand how parents haven't rallied together and made school a full-year activity yet. [03:22] And 24 hours a day? [03:23] Children are annoying, and they can't vote. This seems like a guaranteed win. [03:23] kids should only get time off from school to go work every other weekend in a factory making lead toys [03:23] nah, you have to provide an opportunity for parents to attempt to parent [03:26] rww: If summer vacation didn't happen, parents would forget how good they have it nine months out of the year. [03:27] It also would make teaching even less desirable as a job, I guess. [03:27] I would think it would make it more desirable, as now you're getting paid for 12 months. [03:28] teachers get paid for twelve months, just not paid well. [03:28] Pici: They likely wouldn't get 33% more pay, just 75% the amount spread over twelve months (this is currently what happens) [03:28] Pici: In our district at least, employees that don't work over holidays have the option of getting a check for $totalyearpay/12 once a month. [03:28] ah, seems this is a general thing [03:29] They can choose to get 12 (well, 24, not important) paychecks, or 9 paychecks with 33% more [03:30] still boils down to the pay rate sucking [03:30] the schedule is irrelevant [03:43] True. My point was that not having work for a few months at a time is an upside to the job, especially in the USA where vacation time doesn't tend to be volumous. [03:44] although I guess you could see it as two months of unemployment a year. [03:44] rww: yes, teacher's unions (and thus, every union) will oppose it it. [03:45] rww: Nah, they have opportunities to work over summer, and get their pay bumped up the other months. And technically, two months to be a contractor over summer or whatever else, should they choose. [03:45] true. I know one that works in finance or accounting or something over summer. apparently does well from it. === CarlFK1 is now known as CarlFK [06:30] rww, guess what. [06:31] Someone want to see to -devel please? [06:38] grabbed, sorry for the delay [06:41] haven't figured yet if he's maco's ex or one of the friends that gets used as a puppet. [06:42] some people really need to find better things to do with their time [06:44] yeah [06:56] what [06:56] i guess... a pony! [07:24] how did he get unbanned? [07:24] who removed it? [07:25] IdleOne, who where? [07:25] see your pm elky [07:26] came in un-identified i assume [07:27] oh nice catch [07:27] I saw him join idented [07:28] with the cloak yes [07:28] yeah, so how did he get in? [07:28] joined unidentified then fakejoinparted when he identified. [07:28] ahh [07:28] freenode cloak application "Changing host" thing [07:28] didn't see that [07:28] yikes [07:28] still evasion [07:28] and yay, PMs [07:33] new feature in floodbot3? [07:33] FloodBot3 has kicked vitalii from #ubuntu (vitalii) [07:34] he ban evading in -ot [07:34] err he's [07:35] sure? I don't remember a ban being set on him in there [07:35] whoops he's not my bad [07:36] athiest_monk appears to be jungli [07:37] bazhang, where? [07:37] ah #f [07:37] elky, was asking for a cloak in #freenode , although he has one as Spicemaster already [07:38] what's the connection from athiest_monk to Jungli? [07:39] same IP range [07:39] he's done it before to get multiple cloaks [07:40] heh. was in here and -ot earlier asking why bshellz is banned in #u [07:41] his ident was loc0 and Jungli means "madness" [07:46] @login [07:46] The operation succeeded. [08:25] yes yes ok i am jungli but tell em what is box ? [08:25] rww, ^ [08:28] @mark atheist_monk ~loc0@122.162.216.181 is Jungli [08:28] The operation succeeded. === popey_ is now known as popey [10:56] just a headsup in #ubuntu: * [Athiest_Monk] (~loc0@122.163.67.222): .... [10:59] viva la teipei [10:59] ahahhahaa [11:00] ok [11:02] :( [11:11] popey, yeah :( [11:13] as long as it just that... [11:14] If only. [12:47] Ohmy. Someone said "pedant" instead of the n-word. Sometimes offtopic makes me so proud. [14:12] quiet day? [14:44] no ikonia? o.O [14:50] my logs say jan 12 was the last time I saw him [14:50] he's online right now [14:50] (skype) [15:00] perhaps he is taking a break. its a good thing :) [15:00] everyone needs a break sometimes [15:01] breaks have been happening naturally for me, I feel fortunate on that [15:02] yeah, Ive found them hard to take, but if you can take them, you come back feeling much better :) (at least for me - but I seem to have this serial desire to be here) [15:04] dunno, somehow all this is quite natural for me, I just am if I am, haven't had much urge to any direction [15:28] might be that I am allowed to pay no attention to the channels like #f (; [15:53] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (ddgkyckicrxuvzjh appears to be abusive - 4) [15:53] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (zrpxxtvugorolhby appears to be abusive - 4) [15:53] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (clone flood) [15:53] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (clone flood) [15:53] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (clone flood) [16:04] people ask if there any admins (op) around then they msg you with a support related question :/ [16:05] IdleOne: yeah, they think the admins know everything :D [16:05] hahahaha [16:09] I think someone at sometime argued that I (or someone else) shouldn't be an op because couldn't help him or soeone else with something [16:09] ...was I arbitary enough? [16:14] well, if technical knowledge of Ubuntu is a prerequisite to being an op. I am may as well hand in my apron and stop making cinnamon buns [16:15] s/am// [16:15] good thing knowing how to type isn't [16:16] :-) [16:38] this is why people request technical support on ubuntu-irc@l.u.c too! [16:44] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (SUKMYDICKFAGS appears to be abusive - 4) [16:44] no wai [17:05] Just a quick note regarding r00t4rd3d, most of you will know r00t4rd3d appealed against the ban in #ubuntu [17:05] the IRCC has denied the appeal and the ban stands [17:08] tsimpson: thank you for this information [17:16] given his latest mails I can't see the CC doing anything to counter that decision [17:19] good thing he did provide so much material himself, ey? [17:22] poor guy. I feel sorry for people who are so much at odds with the world. [17:22] * CarlFK waves at the log readers [17:50] we in a netsplit or something? [17:51] trying to set a mode and it is not appearing on my client [17:52] IdleOne: if you use irssi, /netsplit [17:52] ahh, nm. the +b is already set [17:53] Tm_T: what does /netsplit show you? not familiar with that command [17:53] 1952.12 -!- Irssi: There are no net splits [17:53] need to add that to xchat [17:55] shame those emails are not public [17:56] actually, forget that. The shame is that he was not able to conform to our community guidelines. [17:59] CarlFK: The thing that upset me most is that a lot of these problem users could actually be productive members of the community if they were not so mad at the world. [18:00] yep. [18:01] I have a close family member like that. "I speak my mind!" "why can't I keep a job?" [18:01] Every so often I try to explain the relation between those two. maybe someday it will click. [18:01] hopefully with time [18:02] lost a few jobs myself because of speaking my mind [18:02] I learned to shut up (sometimes) [18:03] I struggle with that too [18:03] at least we are aware of it [18:18] you got to learn which battles are worth it... [18:18] indeed [18:19] the problem is not even "speaking your mind" but the words used,tone,attitude... [19:31] tsimpson: thanks [23:28] * elky points to atomicspark in -ot [23:43] guys... maco's stalker is in -offtopic [23:44] "stalker"? [23:44] yes, as best we can tell, it's her ex [23:44] or someone puppetted by him. [23:46] Interesting. Are there any outstanding bans that are being evaded currently or anything like that? [23:47] might as well clarify who you mean while we're at it, just so everyone's on the same page. [23:47] Tuskrattle. [23:48] I get the feeling nyrednek is being coached somehow [23:49] and even if the conversation were not between a stalker and a puppet, the topic is beyond odious. [23:49] So the creepiness and stalker like behaviour is going to be tolerated? [23:50] IdleOne: No, it just needs to be made concrete and warned, and whatnot. [23:50] IdleOne, apparently. I'm at work right now, I can't really deal with an onslaught. [23:50] that works too [23:50] evenin' [23:51] * tonyyarusso gives rww the assist [23:51] tonyyarusso: ok, as long as we are not planning on letting these known problem users take over the channel. [23:51] IdleOne: Not at all. [23:51] there is an incident I must report [23:53] And what may that be? [23:53] good. elky, your friend rww has banned me from an offtopic room [23:54] I'm pretty certain I banned you the other day. [23:54] impossible [23:54] i am a new guy [23:54] you have to believe me [23:55] No, I don't have to believe anything. [23:55] I don't. [23:55] TuskRattle: report your incident. [23:55] you better start explaining to me [23:55] why did rww ban me [23:55] TuskRattle: Because you were evading the ban I set on you the other day. [23:56] is this the turf of drug lords or something [23:56] rww: ah, so the answer to my earlier question was "yes" then? Handy. [23:56] i am not sure i can even say rww was overzealous. it appears to be a freak incident [23:56] The only drug-related activity I'm aware of in here is that I'm currently high on caffeine. [23:57] but as time progresses, you seem to be suspect [23:57] did you ban me for your own good ? probably not. did you ban me to save yourself? i don't think so, but i know you wish it was that easy. [23:58] TuskRattle: You reported your so called incident, rww has told you why you were banned. nothing left to discuss. [23:58] i think you banned me to keep me out of your offtopic club? [23:58] no he did not [23:58] he did [23:58] rww has not said a thing here [23:58] TuskRattle: Because you were evading the ban I set on you the other day. [23:58] no he gave a warning and still it was uncalled for [23:58] that isn't me [23:58] you have no proof. [23:59] Oh yes, we do. [23:59] ok, well I feel your recent stalker like behaviour in the channel is reason enough to leave the ban. [23:59] you don't have any bans logged that list my IP [23:59] if you do please share it [23:59] it will not be lifted. [23:59] !appeals [23:59] If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page.