[01:16] <InHisName> MutantTurkey: aren't you nearly walking distance from PACS meetings ?
[01:17] <InHisName> No SAT classes and you STILL 'forgot' and hung around irc / home.
[01:17] <EvilPhoenix> hehe
[01:18] <EvilPhoenix> heh*
[01:19] <InHisName> Hey EvilPhoenix have you considered changing your name to EvilTucson ?
[01:20] <EvilPhoenix> hm?
[01:20] <PennBot> Somebody said hm is a hmmmburger, EvilPhoenix
[01:20] <EvilPhoenix> lol?
[01:20] <PennBot> I WILL SHOOT YOU. I WILL SHOOT YOU IN THE FACE
[01:20] <EvilPhoenix> PennBot:  go die in a fire
[01:20] <PennBot> I don't know, EvilPhoenix.
[01:20] <InHisName> he he ?
[01:57] <MutantTurkey> InHisName: i am definitely within walking
[01:57] <MutantTurkey> InHisName: sorry i have no excuses other than sloth
[01:57] <MutantTurkey> InHisName: like a ten minute walk, in fact i was just at giant
[02:22]  * InHisName suggests MutantTurkey change his name to MutantSloth.
[02:26] <MutantTurkey> SlothTurkey works also
[02:29] <InHisName> Hmmmmmm, TurkeySloth ?
[02:30] <InHisName> SlothfulTheMutantTurnkey
[02:38] <MutantTurkey> SlothfulMutantTurkey
[02:46] <MutantTurkey> everyone dig my deliciously redesigned case i worked on all day http://twitpic.com/3qfgq5
[02:46] <PennBot> Title: Twitpic - Share photos on Twitter (at twitpic.com)
[05:12]  * ChinnoDog yawns loudly
[05:24]  * MutantTurkey yawns even louder
[06:53] <InHisName> Nice nap!
[06:54] <InHisName> So missingMutantSloth, what is it ?   lego PC ?
[18:33] <ChinnoDog> hi peeps
[18:34] <rmg51> hi peep
[19:59] <pumba_> hello !!
[19:59] <pumba_> i'm desperate :(
[20:00] <pleia2> for..?
[20:00] <pleia2> cookies?
[20:00] <PennBot> OMNOMNOMNOMNOM
[20:01] <pumba_> its been 4 hours im trying to install burg
[20:01] <pumba_> but there's no way i can get out of it :(
[20:01] <InHisName> peeps?  peepingChinnoDog ?
[20:02] <pleia2> burg?
[20:02] <pumba_> yeah
[20:02] <pumba_> burg!
[20:03] <pleia2> google tells me that's a bootloader
[20:03] <pumba_> yes
[20:03] <pumba_> it transform grub
[20:04] <pumba_> into a graphical bootloader
[20:04] <pumba_> but it seems a nightmare to install it
[20:04] <pumba_> i already scre*ed the bootloader 2 times
[20:04] <pumba_> :(
[20:04] <pleia2> not surprising :)
[20:04] <pumba_> its just 3 commands,
[20:05] <pumba_> but i dont know why everyone can install it
[20:05] <pleia2> doesn't look to be a very mature project, I'm sure it has tons of bugs
[20:05] <pumba_> and me not!
[20:05] <pleia2> unless you're really experienced with bootloaders I'd stick with grub
[20:05] <pumba_> but its kinda ugly that console interface...
[20:05] <pumba_> i wanted something that could look good
[20:05] <pumba_> when I boot my laptop
[20:05] <pumba_> since i have also windows
[20:05] <pleia2> grub is themeable
[20:05] <pumba_> oh!
[20:06] <pumba_> you mean that i can do that even with grub?
[20:06] <pleia2> probably a better idea than installing a whole new bootloader :)
[20:06] <pumba_> how? are there any addon packages?
[20:06] <pumba_> I tried to search but couldnt find any
[20:06] <pleia2> google for: grub theme
[20:06] <pleia2> you'll find lots of how-tos and things
[20:06] <pleia2> I've only ever themed lilo back in the day
[20:08] <ChinnoDog> does the theme go beyond the splash screen? I customized the splash when I was booting Win and OSX with Ubuntu on my laptop.
[20:09] <pleia2> splash screen?
[20:09] <pleia2> this is a theme for the grub menu
[20:09] <ChinnoDog> oh. k.
[20:13] <pumba_> its hard... its hard
[20:17] <pumba_> how can i check if i have grub or grub2?
[20:18] <pleia2> what version of ubuntu are you running and when did you install it?
[20:18] <pumba_> i installed it earlier today,
[20:19] <pumba_> 10.10
[20:19] <pleia2> grub2
[20:19] <pumba_> at boot i have nothing coloured, or graphical
[20:19] <pleia2> ubuntu switched with version 9.10
[20:19] <pumba_> is that normal?
[20:19] <pleia2> it certainly won't be graphical
[20:19] <pumba_> there's not even a splash image while ubuntu boots up
[20:19] <pumba_> just a black screen, and then comes the desktop
[20:23] <pleia2> probably want to tackle one issue at a time :)
[20:44] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[21:09] <jedijf> pumba_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Splash%20Images%20and%20Theming
[21:09] <PennBot> Title: Grub2 - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)
[21:10] <jedijf> call me silly, but grub (either) is prettiest when it just works....don't need fancy images to do that work...reminds me of a dapperly dressed garbage collector....but, whatever floats your boat
[21:12] <jedijf> pumba_: actually i like turning quiet and slash off and watching the text roll by...very matrix'ish in a useful kinda way
[21:13] <jedijf> now to get flash to recognize my webcam.....what drama
[21:15] <SamuraiAlba> could be worse
[21:15] <SamuraiAlba> could be out of nachos
[21:16] <jedijf> never had nachos....it's pretty bad
[21:16] <jedijf> dimdim server...albeit orphaned...i like it
[21:20] <jedijf> paison
[21:44] <jedijf> camera works in chrome, not ff
[22:23] <ChinnoDog> webchatSanderlin: IRC client malfunction?
[22:24] <webchatSanderlin> nope
[22:24] <webchatSanderlin> im on my broken c2d
[22:24] <ChinnoDog> You fixed it?
[22:25] <webchatSanderlin> i think so, but now i have a problem w/ windows
[22:26] <webchatSanderlin> UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME
[22:26] <webchatSanderlin> error at startup
[22:26] <webchatSanderlin> so i had a 8.04 live cd and im on that now trying to figure out waht to do next
[22:26] <ChinnoDog> Did you replace the broken motherboard or do something else to fix it?
[22:31] <webchatSanderlin> i got a new c2d and mobo
[22:32] <ChinnoDog> Your mass storage controller probably changed
[22:33] <ChinnoDog> I would like to say that won't be an issue to fix, but, it can be. Boot to your Win CD and run repair
[22:36] <webchatSanderlin> i dont have a win cd
[22:36] <webchatSanderlin> never did
[22:37] <webchatSanderlin> when i got windows 7 i did the beta
[22:37] <webchatSanderlin> then when it went live, i bought a cd key
[22:37] <webchatSanderlin> so..
[22:37] <webchatSanderlin> im currently googling to see what i can do, if i cant do anything.. iuno.. ill have to buy windows i guess
[22:37] <ChinnoDog> I don't know how to repair that without a CD
[22:39] <ChinnoDog> You need to load the new driver for the mass storage controller at boot but that would mean manually installing the new driver into the file system and the registry. idk how to do that or if anyone does.
[22:39] <ChinnoDog> Without the correct mass storage driver you can't even boot into safe mode
[22:39] <EvilPhoenix> what broke where?
[22:40]  * EvilPhoenix has done several Windows / Ubuntu / Linux multi-boot installs
[22:40] <EvilPhoenix> so what broke :P
[22:40] <EvilPhoenix> did someone screw up Windows?
[22:40] <ChinnoDog> webchatSanderlin: It is also possible that your volume is corrupted, but without access to chkdsk....
[22:40] <ChinnoDog> That possibility is much less likely given that you just swapped motherboards
[22:43] <ChinnoDog> EvilPhoenix: I privmsg'd you but the server said you are in +g which enables server side ignore
[22:43] <EvilPhoenix> lolwhoops
[22:43] <EvilPhoenix> someone was spamming me earlier
[22:43] <EvilPhoenix> :P
[22:43] <EvilPhoenix> fixed
[22:43] <webchatSanderlin> i dont know
[22:44] <webchatSanderlin> im in webchat
[22:44] <webchatSanderlin> i dont know if my volume is corrupted, i see the windows splash screen when i but
[22:44] <webchatSanderlin> boot8
[22:44] <webchatSanderlin> *****
[22:44] <webchatSanderlin> but
[22:44] <webchatSanderlin> it BSOD's after that
[22:45] <ChinnoDog> The native driver gets loaded during boot. Until then it is using int13 extensions
[22:47] <EvilPhoenix> ehhh
[22:47] <EvilPhoenix> so ChinnoDog got me up to speed on your issue, webchatSanderlin
[22:47] <EvilPhoenix> so Windows went fubar?
[22:47] <webchatSanderlin> yup
[22:48] <EvilPhoenix> from what ChinnoDog said: (a) your mobo died, and you replaced it.  (b) Before the mobo died, it was all working fine, but now it cant boot to the drive with the new mobo.
[22:48] <EvilPhoenix> right?
[22:48] <EvilPhoenix> webchatSanderlin:  ^
[22:48] <webchatSanderlin> yes
[22:48] <EvilPhoenix> which win7 operating system?
[22:49] <EvilPhoenix> beta?  starter?  retail version?
[22:49] <EvilPhoenix> i must know this
[22:50] <webchatSanderlin> umm
[22:50] <webchatSanderlin> well it was w7 beta, then i got a ultimate cd key
[22:50] <webchatSanderlin> and put that in when beta went live
[22:51] <EvilPhoenix> did you actually update beta to the full win7 ultimate?
[22:51] <EvilPhoenix> because in the event you didnt see anything happen
[22:52] <EvilPhoenix> its quite possibly still beta
[22:52] <EvilPhoenix> and that may be an issue
[22:52] <EvilPhoenix> :P
[22:52] <webchatSanderlin> no, i did update it
[22:52] <webchatSanderlin> i played on it for months
[22:52] <webchatSanderlin> w/ it updated
[22:52] <webchatSanderlin> to full win7 ultimate
[22:52] <webchatSanderlin> then pc died
[22:52] <webchatSanderlin> now im back up
[22:52] <webchatSanderlin> but its giving me that error
[22:53] <EvilPhoenix> i've seen times when the drive gets damaged inadvertently with mobo death
[22:53] <EvilPhoenix> so boot to a USB stick with linux and see if you can mount the windows disk in linux
[22:53] <EvilPhoenix> if you cant
[22:53] <EvilPhoenix> the drive is likely f'd
[22:53] <EvilPhoenix> in some way
[22:53] <EvilPhoenix> if you can
[22:53] <EvilPhoenix> blame Windows and/or the new mobo
[22:54] <EvilPhoenix> and reinstall Windows, even if you have to call Microsoft and request installation media
[23:44] <webchatSanderlin> question: how can i tell which drive is my usb drive in linux using terminal?
[23:53] <jedijf> webchatSanderlin: before you plug it in, open term; tail -f /var/log/messages and watch
[23:54] <ChinnoDog> I usually just "sudo fdisk -l" and it is obvious because of the disk size reported.
[23:54] <jedijf> after it's in, fdisk -l
[23:54] <jedijf> haha yes
[23:55] <ChinnoDog> A command that actually linked the IO interface to the device name would be better but idk what it is
[23:56] <jedijf> mount
[23:56] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: ^^^
[23:56] <jedijf> that works if it automount
[23:57] <jedijf> /dev/sdb1 on /media/0CBC-DA32 type vfat
[23:57] <jedijf> /dev/sde1 on /media/TRAVELDRIVE
[23:58] <ChinnoDog> if it automounts... another trick to circumvent the problem
[23:58] <ChinnoDog> I want a command that tells me what devices are connected on what ports and what their PNP data says they are and what device linux sees it as
[23:59] <ChinnoDog> If it can tell me that, it will work always regardless of states