| ScottL | ailo, later this week i will probably try it, but the time that i have available i'm still trying to suss out the gnome-classic xsession problem | 00:57 |
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| ailo | ScottL: No problem. You seem to have a lot on your hands. | 00:58 |
| ailo | So, what is not working for you ScottL? No one else can help you? | 00:59 |
| ScottL | ailo, after a ubuntustudio install from the image (not "upgrading" from vanilla ubuntu) the default xsession is unity, which does not work | 01:06 |
| ScottL | ailo, i had found a mechanism to set gnome-classic (not unity) as default and keep it as default | 01:07 |
| ScottL | but i haven't been able to get it to work, but i am currently testing it against a vanilla install "upgraded" with ubuntustudio packages | 01:07 |
| ScottL | and i think this is part of the problem because it includes the unity packages | 01:07 |
| ailo | ScottL: I noticed Ubuntu-Desktop is to be uninstalled now. It won't now, but I suppose it will later. I guess something is not ready, but maybe that does not affect your work? | 01:08 |
| ScottL | so i'm going test this in xubuntu, which does not include any unity packages, to see the mechanism at work | 01:08 |
| ailo | Maybe the mechanism is outdated? | 01:09 |
| ScottL | ailo, where did you notice that Ubuntu-Desktop is to be uninstalled? | 01:09 |
| ailo | Update-manager | 01:09 |
| ScottL | ailo, no, this is currently what xubuntu, edubuntu, and UNE are using...i got it from didirock who helped them set it up | 01:09 |
| ailo | It can't perform partial upgrade, because Ubuntu-Desktop is to be uninstalled, but is blacklisted against that | 01:09 |
| ScottL | ailo, i even checked their code today in launchpad | 01:10 |
| ailo | Perhaps on Monday, when people come back to work | 01:10 |
| ScottL | ailo, ah, i understand now about Ubuntu-Desktop | 01:10 |
| ScottL | ailo, i heard that they are also switching some unity parts around, something about 3d vs 2d perhaps?, and this might be part of it *shrug* not sure though | 01:10 |
| ScottL | ailo, yes, i'm hoping didirocks will be available on monday, but i would like to have some experience with xubuntu and see that it work because | 01:11 |
| ailo | Unity seems far from finished. Since it's a Ubuntu project you can really see it growing during the process. | 01:11 |
| ScottL | i can't even get the commands to work for me using CLI without all the if-then logic | 01:11 |
| ScottL | so if it is working in xubuntu but not for me from a vanilla ubuntu install then it probably has something to do with my install choice | 01:12 |
| ScottL | i might even try to install the ubuntustudio-* meta packages and then rebuild -settings to see if it works | 01:12 |
| ailo | If you say so :) | 01:13 |
| ScottL | !version | 04:54 |
| ubottu | To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> » | 04:54 |
| paultag | hey, sorry I was away, I went skiing :) | 22:14 |
| paultag | ScottL: did your package get sorted? | 22:14 |
| paultag | ailo: How's the script? | 22:14 |
| ailo | paultag: I continued to work on it as a startupt script, using zenity and zend-notifu | 22:15 |
| paultag | ailo: great!! | 22:15 |
| ailo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/554449/ | 22:15 |
| ailo | It need some work, of course and I had some problems putting in the actual "actions" | 22:16 |
| paultag | ailo: it looks great so far, we just need to make sure it will run headless :) | 22:16 |
| ailo | gksudo -A "command" would give me a popup | 22:17 |
| paultag | ailo: I see a few issues right off - the sudo calls need to change to gksudo :) | 22:17 |
| paultag | ah | 22:17 |
| ailo | But it will only work like this, if it's run int the terminal | 22:17 |
| paultag | ailo: it's an issue for people who have sudo prompt on every command :( | 22:19 |
| paultag | I've set a machine up like that before, I was security nuts for a while | 22:19 |
| ailo | :) | 22:20 |
| paultag | ailo: all in all, kickass work so far | 22:20 |
| paultag | that shows a ton of man-hours so far | 22:20 |
| ailo | So, I need to check some conditions first, and then run the commands as a list of variables | 22:20 |
| paultag | :) | 22:21 |
| ailo | I will need to add some kind of progress window too, but it seems zenity covers most of it | 22:22 |
| ailo | I was about to start learning how to code python gtk apps, but abogani had already tipped me about zenity, only it took me a while to realize how much you could to with it | 22:26 |
| ailo | Really saves some time | 22:26 |
| paultag | :) | 22:27 |
| paultag | zenity rocks | 22:27 |
| ScottL | paultag, skiing sounds awesome, but i can't get my end to work, even running the command in CLI didn't set the default xsession to gnome :( | 23:05 |
| ScottL | paultag, i'm hoping to talk to didirocks tomorrow and see if he can point me in a better direction | 23:05 |
| paultag | sure | 23:06 |
| ScottL | paultag, also i talked to the.muso yesterday about possibly helping me find the right direction, hopefully i find the answer before then but he'll be a failsafe for me if everything else falls through | 23:06 |
| paultag | BRB | 23:07 |
| ScottL | paultag, i talked yesterday also the a few people with xubuntu because i was questioning if it commands i got from didirocks actually worked since i was having trouble with them | 23:14 |
| ScottL | it appears like they stuff works, but they have a file (session.sh) that we dont' have start also run startxfce | 23:14 |
| paultag | ScottL: no need, you can use /etc/xdg/autostart to run that stuff | 23:15 |
| paultag | ScottL: post-boot stuff, right? | 23:16 |
| paultag | erm, login * | 23:16 |
| ScottL | charlie-tca thought my problems might even arise because i was starting with vanilla ubuntu | 23:16 |
| ScottL | paultag, i'm not sure if it's post boot or not | 23:17 |
| ScottL | paultag, if you are installing from the ISO it should behave different, i believe, then if you install the ubuntustudio-default-settings package | 23:17 |
| ScottL | ontop of ubuntu | 23:17 |
| ScottL | in the later i expect it to be post-boot | 23:17 |
| paultag | ScottL: I'll check it out when I get back to Ohio -- I'm in way flux right now -- is there a bug you can hit me on? | 23:17 |
| ScottL | uno momento, por favor | 23:18 |
| paultag | sure sure | 23:18 |
| ScottL | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-default-settings/+bug/702712 | 23:19 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 702712 in ubuntustudio-default-settings (Ubuntu) "set gnome-classic xsession as default in natty" [Undecided,New] | 23:19 |
| paultag | ScottL: thanks, dude. I'll get on that as soon as I can. Poke the bug if I don't get back to you -- I have a nasty habbit of forgetting | 23:20 |
| ScottL | paultag, oh sure, i've also been poking around on #ubuntu-kernel to see if i can find out why the ubuntustudio kernel from the ISO keeps panicking during installation | 23:21 |
| ScottL | or at least see if it's happening to others on the alternate still ( i believe it still is) | 23:21 |
| ScottL | because i would really, really like to try to fix the xsessions bug in an actual ubuntustudio install :| | 23:22 |
| paultag | ScottL: :) | 23:24 |
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