[00:57] ailo, later this week i will probably try it, but the time that i have available i'm still trying to suss out the gnome-classic xsession problem [00:58] ScottL: No problem. You seem to have a lot on your hands. [00:59] So, what is not working for you ScottL? No one else can help you? [01:06] ailo, after a ubuntustudio install from the image (not "upgrading" from vanilla ubuntu) the default xsession is unity, which does not work [01:07] ailo, i had found a mechanism to set gnome-classic (not unity) as default and keep it as default [01:07] but i haven't been able to get it to work, but i am currently testing it against a vanilla install "upgraded" with ubuntustudio packages [01:07] and i think this is part of the problem because it includes the unity packages [01:08] ScottL: I noticed Ubuntu-Desktop is to be uninstalled now. It won't now, but I suppose it will later. I guess something is not ready, but maybe that does not affect your work? [01:08] so i'm going test this in xubuntu, which does not include any unity packages, to see the mechanism at work [01:09] Maybe the mechanism is outdated? [01:09] ailo, where did you notice that Ubuntu-Desktop is to be uninstalled? [01:09] Update-manager [01:09] ailo, no, this is currently what xubuntu, edubuntu, and UNE are using...i got it from didirock who helped them set it up [01:09] It can't perform partial upgrade, because Ubuntu-Desktop is to be uninstalled, but is blacklisted against that [01:10] ailo, i even checked their code today in launchpad [01:10] Perhaps on Monday, when people come back to work [01:10] ailo, ah, i understand now about Ubuntu-Desktop [01:10] ailo, i heard that they are also switching some unity parts around, something about 3d vs 2d perhaps?, and this might be part of it *shrug* not sure though [01:11] ailo, yes, i'm hoping didirocks will be available on monday, but i would like to have some experience with xubuntu and see that it work because [01:11] Unity seems far from finished. Since it's a Ubuntu project you can really see it growing during the process. [01:11] i can't even get the commands to work for me using CLI without all the if-then logic [01:12] so if it is working in xubuntu but not for me from a vanilla ubuntu install then it probably has something to do with my install choice [01:12] i might even try to install the ubuntustudio-* meta packages and then rebuild -settings to see if it works [01:13] If you say so :) [04:54] !version [04:54] To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy » [22:14] hey, sorry I was away, I went skiing :) [22:14] ScottL: did your package get sorted? [22:14] ailo: How's the script? [22:15] paultag: I continued to work on it as a startupt script, using zenity and zend-notifu [22:15] ailo: great!! [22:15] http://paste.ubuntu.com/554449/ [22:16] It need some work, of course and I had some problems putting in the actual "actions" [22:16] ailo: it looks great so far, we just need to make sure it will run headless :) [22:17] gksudo -A "command" would give me a popup [22:17] ailo: I see a few issues right off - the sudo calls need to change to gksudo :) [22:17] ah [22:17] But it will only work like this, if it's run int the terminal [22:19] ailo: it's an issue for people who have sudo prompt on every command :( [22:19] I've set a machine up like that before, I was security nuts for a while [22:20] :) [22:20] ailo: all in all, kickass work so far [22:20] that shows a ton of man-hours so far [22:20] So, I need to check some conditions first, and then run the commands as a list of variables [22:21] :) [22:22] I will need to add some kind of progress window too, but it seems zenity covers most of it [22:26] I was about to start learning how to code python gtk apps, but abogani had already tipped me about zenity, only it took me a while to realize how much you could to with it [22:26] Really saves some time [22:27] :) [22:27] zenity rocks [23:05] paultag, skiing sounds awesome, but i can't get my end to work, even running the command in CLI didn't set the default xsession to gnome :( [23:05] paultag, i'm hoping to talk to didirocks tomorrow and see if he can point me in a better direction [23:06] sure [23:06] paultag, also i talked to the.muso yesterday about possibly helping me find the right direction, hopefully i find the answer before then but he'll be a failsafe for me if everything else falls through [23:07] BRB [23:14] paultag, i talked yesterday also the a few people with xubuntu because i was questioning if it commands i got from didirocks actually worked since i was having trouble with them [23:14] it appears like they stuff works, but they have a file (session.sh) that we dont' have start also run startxfce [23:15] ScottL: no need, you can use /etc/xdg/autostart to run that stuff [23:16] ScottL: post-boot stuff, right? [23:16] erm, login * [23:16] charlie-tca thought my problems might even arise because i was starting with vanilla ubuntu [23:17] paultag, i'm not sure if it's post boot or not [23:17] paultag, if you are installing from the ISO it should behave different, i believe, then if you install the ubuntustudio-default-settings package [23:17] ontop of ubuntu [23:17] in the later i expect it to be post-boot [23:17] ScottL: I'll check it out when I get back to Ohio -- I'm in way flux right now -- is there a bug you can hit me on? [23:18] uno momento, por favor [23:18] sure sure [23:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-default-settings/+bug/702712 [23:19] Ubuntu bug 702712 in ubuntustudio-default-settings (Ubuntu) "set gnome-classic xsession as default in natty" [Undecided,New] [23:20] ScottL: thanks, dude. I'll get on that as soon as I can. Poke the bug if I don't get back to you -- I have a nasty habbit of forgetting [23:21] paultag, oh sure, i've also been poking around on #ubuntu-kernel to see if i can find out why the ubuntustudio kernel from the ISO keeps panicking during installation [23:21] or at least see if it's happening to others on the alternate still ( i believe it still is) [23:22] because i would really, really like to try to fix the xsessions bug in an actual ubuntustudio install :| [23:24] ScottL: :)