[00:08] what do i need to install to play windows media audio streams (radio) ? [00:19] @rtdos, hoping i understand what you mean, but audacious or vlc will play anything ;-) [00:20] asfyxia - i'm using radio try and can't seem to pick up all radio streams. i think i'm missing some codecs. [00:21] ok rtdos what OS are you playing with at this time ? [00:21] kde :) [00:22] works for most streams but does not seem to work with wma streams [00:23] oK, did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras? [00:38] yes. [00:38] should i re-install [00:47] hy please need ure help people [00:48] i have installed kubuntu 10.10 and updated with kpackage but when restart, happens this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-853V83r8 [00:57] precubcr: looks like an unfinished install... [00:57] no .. [00:57] it was perfect [01:03] precubcr: did u try an sudo apt-get check [01:04] no what does it do ? [01:05] precubcr: check is a diagnostic tool; it updates the package cache and checks for broken dependencies. [01:06] aha [01:06] ok [01:06] and also fixes them ¿? [01:06] precubcr: german? [01:06] no english :( spanish roanian [01:07] precubcr: it gives hints when it finds missing dependencies [01:07] ok thx ill do one check now ;) === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway === drew is now known as bedsack [02:00] l === enterprise is now known as Guest87561 [02:07] hello [02:08] Hi [02:08] Blueleaf: M [02:24] Hi. I have Ubuntu 10.10, and yesterday I wanted to try kubuntu. I really disliked it, and now I want to remove it from my pc. However, following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome does not work. I get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554938/ [02:24] Any ideas? [02:25] That's the 10.04 instruction [02:26] hmm, right, do you know of some more up-to-date instructions? [02:29] Nope but try removing those one by one to see if one of them is blocker === drew is now known as bedsack [02:31] I've tried to remove all but the packages listed as errors, it seems to work [02:31] At least, it will remove those packages [02:31] unfortunately, it will also remove gnome [02:31] very, very strange [02:49] hi all [02:51] Hi! [02:52] im just new to kubuntu and i got a question. I got a USB-Headset but the only way i can edit the soundoutput is via systemsettings and then multimedia -> Phonon and set priority [02:53] is there an easier way to do that? On the other hand my mic doesnt seem to work.. it always sets it back to the intern soundcard as default recordingdevice [02:53] how can i fix this? when i select my usbheadset as recording device in ts3 direktly, ts3 crashes [02:58] hi [03:15] HEY I HEARD THIS IS WHERE ALL THE HIPSTERS GO. SO what is up [03:16] how can i get help with my kubuntu problems [03:16] primary focus is to have sex [03:16] thank you [03:16] i will be patient [03:17] now i am just bore === emma is now known as em [03:25] :-) [04:24] Hi! How can I take advantage of the extra buttons on my mouse, which apparently in Windows are for "forward" and "back" on the web browser? (They are on the left side of the mouse.) I use Kubuntu 10.04. === sean is now known as Guest50723 [04:41] hi =is possible to open a jar file in ubuntu??? [04:43] in a terminal cd to the folder containing your jar file and type "java -jar yourjar.jar". obvuiously replace yourjar.jar with te file you want to run [04:46] error No such file or directory [04:47] did you change folder to the one required? [04:48] i downloaded the file in downloads [04:50] then in a terminal use the cd command to change folder to your downloads folder. This is done generally by opening a terminal and typeing cd Downloads [04:51] then type java -jar yourfile.jar [04:59] sont work [04:59] dont work [05:00] what exactly are you typing in the terminal? [05:01] have you installed the java runtime? [05:02] i put the file in home folder and type cd /home is ok .but when type java -jar yourfile.jar =error"Unable to access jarfile operette-hifi_getjar-en.jar [05:02] " [05:03] i installed open jdk 6 runtime [05:03] from restricted extras [05:05] try moving it to your documents folder and trying again. There may be issues with executing files from the home folder directly [05:08] is the same error bash: cd: documents: No such file or directory [05:08] Documents has a capital D. Your filesystem is case-sensitive. [05:10] you may need to change the files permissions. Right click the jar file and select properties, check the box saying ""Allow executing file as program" [05:10] also yes sorry about the non capitalised "Documents" [05:12] is the same error [05:13] work only in home folder [05:14] is the jar file in your Documents folder or the home folder? [05:14] home [05:16] then the command will not work in any other folder. The java -jar command must be executed in the same folder as the jar file. [05:19] ggeorgy: Not sure if this was covered: your home folder is *not* called "/home". If your user name is "ggeorgy" (let's say), then your home folder is "/home/ggeorgy". [05:19] ggeorgy: You can also use "~" most of the time to replace "/home/ggeorgy", so "~/Documents" means "/home/ggeorgy/Documents". [05:20] hello? [05:20] ggeorgy: Under other circumstances, you might need to put "$HOME", which is less convenient but works under more circumstances. Like, "$HOME/Documents". [05:20] youngray: we hear you. Ask. [05:21] im just new here:) [05:21] im not asking questionsXD [05:21] ok [05:25] youngray: Welcome; but if you want more insight into k/Ubuntu, I find that the #ubuntu channel is much livelier and more than makes up for the fact that most of it is non-KDE. [05:26] thx,kwtm. [05:27] but english is not my native english. [05:27] i am trying find chanel in chinese. [05:27] i tryed and i have an error Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from [05:27] file.jar [05:27] !cn [05:27] For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道：打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者打字 /join #ubuntu-tw 或者打字 /join #ubuntu-hk [05:29] 恐怕中文台不活躍。 Ubuntu的通道可能是值得聽。 [05:29] thx [05:29] [translation: the Chinese channel isn't that active. The Ubuntu channel might be worthwhile.] [05:29] Sorry, I don't have my Chinese input software loaded so I'm relying on Google Translate to type my Chinese for me. :P [05:31] My own question: how can I map Button 8 and 9 on my mouse (those new buttons defined by MS Vista to mean "fwd" and "back" on the browsers) -- I've confirmed that "xev" recognizes the buttons, but can I make (say) button 8 mean "escape" or "copy" or something? [05:31] ggeorgy: Just checking: is your jar known to be error free? Does it work on another system, for example? [05:32] i tryed more jar file and is the same error [05:37] does exist a jar emulator mobile for ubuntu???? [05:38] I will need to go now to dinner, but just a parting thought for ggeorgy: I have run into problems with Java before, depending on which run-time package you install. You seem to have installed the one I would have, but if all else fails you might try installing something else. [05:38] Best of luck! [05:39] ok thanks [06:11] hi everybody let me see my luck today [06:12] i have a samsung corby mobile. Kubuntu identify it as a imaging device always and sometime shows it as modem too. The problem the modem deduction is not stable all the time, sometimes it do and sometimes not. Im using this mobile as a modem which is having a 3g connection. [06:13] Kppp is also not useful as it says can not open modem, where as the modem is loaded in /dev/ttyACM0 and 1 as well. [06:13] wvdialconf is returning error [06:14] so how to go about from here to make it more stable and use it without intermittancy [06:17] anyone here to help me out? [06:20] kubuntu irc dried? [06:20] i mean no one even saying a hi [06:26] kuttans: you picked a quiet time [06:26] i dint get moetunes [06:26] ohh i c [06:26] when it will be active then? [06:27] maybe 4 or 5 hours time [06:29] ok then i will try again === Jackson__ is now known as jackson [07:15] hey check out zx86NT ... it's a set of command and graphical NT shells for [07:15] +unix/linux [07:15] > http://os.hopto.org [07:30] magizian: not the place for ads... [07:35] hello === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok === root is now known as beagleP [07:50] when I press K>Leave>Shutdown nothing happens. Also org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer org.kde.KSMServerInterface.logout -1 -1 -1 does nothing. any suggestions? === rafa is now known as Guest74286 === beagleP is now known as faLUCE === horus is now known as Guest79457 [10:21] H3llo W0rld [10:38] hi. I see with df /dev/sdb1 mounted on /media/disk, but I can't see /dev/sdb1 on filesystem... what can I do? [10:39] hiii everybody [10:40] hello kuttans [10:41] hii rork [10:41] i have a samsung corby mobile. Kubuntu identify it as a imaging device always and sometime shows it as modem too. The problem the modem deduction is not stable all the time, sometimes it do and sometimes not. Im using this mobile as a modem which is having a 3g connection.Kppp is also not useful as it says can not open modem, where as the modem is loaded in /dev/ttyACM0 and 1 as well. wvdialconf is returning errorso how to go about from here to make it [10:41] more stable and use it without intermittancy [10:41] kuttans: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [10:41] ohh comeon floodbot its a single sentence [10:43] still inactive .....seems less people are visiting kubuntu irc room [10:45] The channel isn't very active at this time indeed, still 2 minutes is a bit short for everybody to look at his IRC. [10:50] yeah i know, but i came in the morning rork , it was the same status [10:51] rork do you know of any forums which is dealing with mobile phone as a modem in ubuntu or kubuntu [10:59] i have a samsung corby mobile. Kubuntu identify it as a imaging device always and sometime shows it as modem too. The problem the modem deduction is not stable all the time, sometimes it do and sometimes not. Im using this mobile as a modem which is having a 3g connection.Kppp is also not useful as it says can not open modem, where as the modem is loaded in /dev/ttyACM0 and 1 as well. wvdialconf is returning errorso how to go about from here to make it [10:59] more stable and use it without intermittancy [11:02] I have no idea [11:23] hi @ all! I got a problem, i am using a notebook with an external screen and i want to extend my system on that screen. That does work so far. But after i restart my notebook my settings are gone and i have to adjust it again. Does somebody has a solution on that or a suggestion? Its not such a big deal, cause i can script it with xargs, but i guess it does have to work... [11:25] Is it possible to make quassel to go into message indicator when I close it? [11:30] FlashDeluxe: I'm afraid todays tools only change screensettings for the current settings (as xrandr does), you can specify a xrandr command in .xprofile or make an xorg.conf [11:31] rork: so it isn`t an error but a default thing? [11:32] As I understand it is the default mode indeed, but I like to see it as a bug too. [11:32] I would have to do some checking on that though === Freejack is now known as Guest75039 [12:21] hola [12:21] estoy en clases que aburrimiento [12:44] rork maybe its a bug, but as you can manage it with a small script, its ok for me :) === Realmkeeper is now known as Guest76861 [14:01] Howdy [14:01] hi everyone....I have only some basic project templates in kdevelop. what's the package to add more templates? [14:15] anyone? where to find kdevelop project tamplates? [14:22] m_tadeu_, /join #kde-devel [14:25] BluesKaj: this is not a kde-devel issue...it's a packaging issue...and I just found the package which is kapptemplate. but thanx for your help [14:26] m_tadeu_, sry, i couldn't help , but I thought the ppl at devel might give you an answer [14:28] BluesKaj: it's cool :) but *-devel stuff it's for development of that app === myriam is now known as Mamarok_ [15:09] hey guys, since I installed Maverick (or maybe was Lucid?) and after trying everything (from blacklisting effects to installing mainline kernels), I arrived to the conclusion that is only kwin the one that is not compatible with my video card (intel GM965) when I switched to compiz and noticed that everything was fine right from the beginning, and immensely faster. [15:11] The only problem now is that the "Edge Trigger Delay" setting is completely omitted, that is, the mouse triggers the cube rotation immediately when it touches the screen edge, which is awkward. Anyone else using compiz has experienced the same issue? is it fixable? [15:15] (BTW I'm currently using the kubuntu-ppa & kernel 2.6.36-020636-generic) [15:22] * pabloz copies and pastes to #copiz === blegrand is now known as blegrand_ === blegrand_ is now known as nouveaupseudo === lorgouilloux is now known as keke === nouveaupseudo is now known as batiste [16:01] hi, I installed the pyweather widget, I want to be able to find the files where it is installed on my computer so I can edit them. I've been googling for 15 minutes and can [16:01] can't find it yet [16:01] how do I find where it got installed [16:05] so basically I just need to know where kde installs the plasmoids when we 'get new widgets' [16:11] nyad: did you look in the .kde subdirectory in your home directory? [16:13] nyad: it is in .kde/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids/ === aXw|VPS is now known as angelXwind [16:22] Am I the only one [16:22] howdy all [16:22] who seems to have a broken Ubiquity [16:22] (I'm ssh'ing as of now) [16:22] it can't even get past plymouth [16:23] I'm having some problems with my desktop effects not applying ... Kwin keeps telling me that it cannot enable certain effects, but my card should clearly be able to handle them [16:23] IOError: [Errno 4] Interrupted system call [16:23] and I know for sure that Kubuntu runs on this laptop [16:23] (older versions did) [16:23] I don't know much about graphics drivers on linux, but lspci shows it's recognized [16:24] Apparently the cause of this crash is some python scripts [16:24] kde-ui.py [16:25] filteredcommand.py [16:25] ubi-language.py [16:25] i18n.py [16:25] those are causingthe crash apparently [16:30] BrianH: Which card, drivers? [16:33] hey guys is there an extra package i need to install to be able to use multiple monitors [16:33] Hey guys, who can tell me more about the 'Alternative' edition? Is that the same as the Desktop, just without KDE/Xorg? [16:34] TunaSnax: no it basically a text based installer [16:34] it will evetually install a desktop etc for ya [16:34] eagles0513875: So it will still install X and KDE? [16:34] yes [16:35] mmk, thz [16:35] TunaSnax: you having problems wiht the normal graphicall installer [16:35] !monitors [16:35] no, I just didnt want KDE(or gnome), but also dont need all the server stuff that the Server edition comes with [16:36] TunaSnax: [16:36] use the server cd [16:36] if you want a server edition [16:36] then somewhere during the server install you have an option to do a custom install [16:36] and can do just a bass install [16:37] eagles0513875: oh yeah? Cool, I'll try that out, thanks dude. [16:37] no problemo [16:37] my pleasure [16:39] eagles0513875: How is that for driver support? Kubuntu/Ubuntu are the only distro's I have found that work with my touchpad (even Deb doesnt work), and wifi card('out of the box') do you know/think if those two drivers are at least on the CD? [16:40] hard to say till u install [16:40] TunaSnax: is this for a desktop or server your installing [16:40] eagles0513875: its for a laptop. [16:41] what desktop you planning on using? [16:41] if any [16:41] eagles0513875: What desktop? You mean the hardware? [16:42] TunaSnax: desktop as in kde or gnome [16:42] eagles0513875: Fluxbox [16:43] use the normal kubuntu install [16:43] install kde [16:43] once you install it [16:43] and fluxbox [16:43] you just have to issue sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop [16:43] kubuntu-desktop is a meta package which will uninstall the default kde setup [16:43] eagles0513875: oh, snap. I should have just started with that :P Thanks again! [16:44] TunaSnax: server is just a bit different in a few ways besides no desktop [16:44] the kernel is also tweaked for servers as well [16:45] aye, not something I want on a laptop. [16:57] anyone here know how i can setup dual out put for monitors [16:57] for some reason its saying i am unable to do it === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer === emma_ is now known as em === andrew_ is now known as Guest28627 [17:27] can i change the context menu in folder view on kubuntu 10.10 [17:34] Hi [17:34] I have an issue concerning kubuntu installation [17:35] !ask | ubuntu [17:35] ubuntu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [17:36] first i am not used to qwerty keybords [17:37] and i do not know how to translate my issue in english [17:37] is there a french channel ? [17:37] #ubuntu-fr [17:37] for kubuntu [17:38] no [17:38] Ok i ll try to explain you === arian is now known as Guest39559 [17:39] i have my CD but during installation it says retrieving datas from ti;e servers or something like that [17:39] time [17:39] and it do not install more [17:41] any ideas [17:44] Do you have "download updates during installation" switched on? [17:44] Is the machine connected to the net, and does it reconize the network hardware? [17:45] Can you start it in live mode, and be online? === christ is now known as pe5yes === mren|off is now known as mren [17:53] yes i have ll this [17:54] but that's odd, i've tried once again, and now it's "systemes files detection" or something like that [17:54] hello. i've updated from lucid to maverick today... and X is broken. The xorg.0.log says "NV: Kernel modesetting driver in use, refusing to load"..... i dont know what to do next === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:03] i can find people with the same people using google, but no solution [18:05] hi there, how can i change the default soundoutput in kubuntu 10.10? [18:05] in teamspeak3 i can select the output-device but chromium still plays thru my intern soundcard even tho i set my headset as primary in phonon [18:06] go to the main system settings [18:06] then multimedia, audio devices [18:07] the latter is called phonon here [18:07] ye i am there [18:07] and then go to "audio output" and select the one you like and click on the up arrow, saying something like "pull up" or "prefer" [18:08] i have it like that [18:08] now your output should be the device on top of the list [18:09] still chromium plays thru intern soundcard.. the game heroes of newerth has as soundouput default aswell and its my intern soundcard not my usbdevice [18:09] amarok plays thru usbheaset tho [18:11] the odd thing is [18:11] #ubuntu-fr [18:11] that when i click the test button non of my interndeviced playback any sound [18:12] only my usbheadset plays some sound back [18:13] I had a similar issue, could it be that the sound is there, but really really faint? [18:14] googling for the same problem that i have but not specific on kubuntu, i see i should disable kernel modesetting by adding 'nomodeset' to the kernel command line. I did, but this doesn't solve the problem. Does kubuntu somehow 'disregard' this option ? the kernel seems to ignore this option [18:14] no [18:15] there is no sound at all for my intern soundcard on this phonontestthingie [18:15] the mixer in kmix to set the volume works perfectly tho for flash [18:15] maybe cou can check in pavucontrol [18:15] like watching a video on youtube [18:16] hmm, that is really strange [18:16] maybe you got different default audio devices in the different categories of phonon? [18:17] nope i applied it to all the same categories [18:17] I know that you have every application on a different fader in kmix, maybe some of them are set to zero? [18:19] what you mean with fader for every app in kmix.. i only got faders for my internal soundcard like front, rear, headsetoutput etc.. and i got my tab with the faders for my usbheadset volume and microfone [18:20] claus, open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure all ctrls are unmuted , and turned up to 80% or more [18:21] it is [18:21] but [18:22] on alsamixer [18:22] my interndevice is set as default aswell [18:22] not my usb [18:22] is there a way to change that? [18:26] claus, you may have to change the default soundcard in the BIOS peripherals ..dunno if that will work for outboard USB cards tho [18:26] i doubt that. i am currently reading sth about asound.conf [18:27] isn't it pulseaudio that sorts that out now? - try pavucontrol [18:27] claus, have you selected and tested the sound output options in system settings/media/phonon [18:27] !info pavucontrol [18:27] pavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-1 (maverick), package size 118 kB, installed size 948 kB [18:28] i deinstalled pulseaudio [18:28] k [18:28] yes i did BluesKaj [18:28] but i cant hear any sound for my intern device [18:28] only for my usb device [18:29] i tested every device listed there [18:31] claus, ok disconnect the usb cartd , then try this ion the terminal , speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -t wav [18:31] k sec [18:32] works [18:33] when i plugin my usb headset again its still on my intern device [18:33] ok , now claus , what do you want to do , use the internal or the usb or both? [18:34] both but it depends.. when im working and im listening to music i want to use my usb headset or when im gaming.. but watching a movie id like to have the output out of my intern device [18:35] claus , you can choose your options with this command a GUI will open , sudo gstreamer-properties [18:36] there is no gstreamer at all [18:37] claus, you have to install it I guess :) [18:38] uhm how.. sudo apt-get install gstreamer doesnt work [18:38] ah [18:38] its gstreamer0.10 [18:39] so and then i will be able to select my default output device? === max is now known as Guest19535 [18:41] still there is no gstreamer-properties [18:42] claus, I think a reboot is required , not sure [18:42] uhm okay [18:42] one thing i mention [18:43] BluesKaj: shouldnt be to see the program ^^ [18:43] is the notification sound of kubuntu is on my intern soundcard aswell [18:45] claus, plug the usb back in , then run sudo gstreamer-properties [18:45] my usb is plugged in [18:45] and there is no entry gstreamer-properties .. the only thing i have i gstreamer-install-codecs [18:46] ok,. then that command is depracated ...it used to work [18:48] i have no /etc/asound.conf too [18:54] BluesKaj: gstreamer-properties is a gnome app [18:54] !find /usr/bin/gstreamer-properties [18:54] File /usr/bin/gstreamer-properties found in gnome-media [18:55] yofel you know how to change my default output device? [18:57] not really, I would usually suggest phonon settings or pavucontrol, but you already tried that [18:57] yofel, I thought I had gstreamer-properties installed , may be it didn't migrate to this upgrade [18:59] whats pavucontrol ? [19:01] claus: pulseaudio control application [19:02] ah k [19:02] ye i deinstalled pulseaudio cause it sucks [19:02] then you'll have to mess with alsa I fear.. [19:03] ye i found this [19:03] http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?title=FAQ026 [19:04] but i dont have any asoundrc or i just dont know how to find it [19:14] aaa [19:14] aaa [19:15] Funciona xD [19:20] does this bug have to be filed in kde for kde team to fix it. http://osdir.com/ml/kopete-bugs/2010-04/msg00114.html [19:36] hello? [19:37] hi Eaglestriker [19:38] ohai [19:38] this is my forst time using Kubuntu :P [19:38] this is my first time using Kubuntu :P [19:39] congratulations Eaglestriker! :) [19:39] how long have you been using it [19:39] ? [19:43] Eaglestriker, about 5 or 6 yrs, not exactly sure [20:27] BluesKaj: A little too slow? :) [20:29] Daskreech, yeah , i left the room for a few mins and he left just before I hit the enter key :) [20:39] This is a really quiet room once it's not release time though [20:40] hello po [20:40] Hello [20:50] I'm running natty justto keep from getting bored [20:53] does anyone have an Android phone an syncs calendar+todo on it somehow? [20:53] BluesKaj: Run otter [20:54] Daskreech, otter's not available to the likes of me [20:54] :) [20:55] That's a shame :) [20:55] I suspect if it did you'd be a lot less bored :) [20:55] So lets play a KDE support game :) [20:56] what's the top 4 things that you think shuld be fixed in KDE? (this is slightly different from improved) [20:56] It's subjective of course but having been in a support channel for a while you get perspective [20:59] vanguard: one way is to sync to google calendar, then sync from google to akondi [20:59] :p [21:00] amarok, vnc, quassel (it's ugly) , ...nothing else , Daskreech [21:02] ^^ pulseaudio should be up there :) [21:02] and what are my options if I do not want to give my data in Google's hands? [21:03] bazaar: is it even possible to use android without google? [21:03] BluesKaj: vnc support you mean? vnc isn't KDE [21:03] pulseaudio is a given , James147 [21:03] James147: you mean more support for it? [21:03] yeah, but vnc still sucks [21:03] maco: Yes [21:04] maco: yes... but you lose like 1/2 the features :) [21:05] is there a program or a way to pipe 'text to speech' to a wav file ? [21:06] rtdos: yes... jovie can do it i think [21:06] i should already have jovie installed by default, correct ? [21:07] rtdos: dont know ^^ probally not as far as i know [21:07] yeah, Android minus Google is not really clever, it is just that I now have an Android phone around ... [21:07] i will check it out thanks James147 [21:07] I guess I would rather by myself a Maemo if I could choose ... [21:08] hello! [21:08] James147: Such as? [21:09] (for feature loss) [21:09] Daskreech: the default market for one ^^ wihch makes geeing application allot harder :) [21:09] getting ^^ [21:09] ^^ though there are "alternitives" [21:10] Well you have third party markets and from what I've seen a lot of the more useful apps are FOSS which you can easily get outside the market and outside of the US is the only way you can get them a lot of the time [21:10] ^^ the speeh reconision is another, as far as I know they use the google servers to do the processing [21:10] Yeah that's neat :) [21:11] though I've never seen someone use it as successfully as they do in the demos [21:11] Daskreech: ^^ being able to sync to google, then from google to akondi is another :) [21:11] that's an assumption that you want to keep your data in Google [21:11] Which if you do this converssation has little value [21:12] If you don't all the other alternatives are just fine [21:12] Daskreech: not many other options to get the data into akondi as far as I know [21:13] well, right now I play with Chandler (chandlerproject.org), it supports CalDAV export [21:13] yay Chandler! [21:13] or CalDAV syncing [21:13] we have a server at work for it [21:13] Really should get more exposure [21:13] but I cannot find the ChandlerQE App for my phone ... [21:15] theres enough of me to go around [21:16] what do you mean? [21:16] okay, I found a svn repo with the source -- how do I get that onto the phone? Or should I rather plan in a whole afternoon for that? [21:18] Exposure: over exposed? === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [21:31] quick conclusion: Android without using a lot of Google's services sucks. sigh. === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer === erebus is now known as arne34445 === arne34445 is now known as erebus === erebus is now known as hiewuhfiuew === mike_ is now known as selsper [22:05]