[00:16] <Amaranth_> Jack87: It's Sunday :)
[00:16] <Jack87> :)
[08:59] <hrw> morning
[09:30] <Jack87> hola
[12:34] <ogra> hrmpf, archive is still out of sync
[12:56] <bdrung> ogra: with 5 gig ram free, you can compile eclipse on tmpfs.
[12:56] <ogra> sure
[12:56] <persia> (really, later :p )
[12:56] <ogra> but first i would need to solder 4.5G onto the board ;)
[12:57] <stgraber> persia: :) (thought I was already in this channel, apparently for some reason I wasn't ...)
[12:58] <persia> heh
[13:08] <ogra> grrrr
[13:36] <bdrung> ogra: you need more than 5 gig or do you want to swap everything else while compiling. ;)
[13:37] <ogra> i usually dont compile Qt, firefox, thunderbird or openoffice ... normal packages dont need these insane amounts of ram
[14:32] <ogra> bug #684951
[14:32] <ubot2> ogra: Bug 684951 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/684951 is private
[15:28] <robclark> rsalveti: quick question..  your new ppa seems to have same version # as what I was using from your old ppa..  how to I get 'apt-get install' to realize they are not the same and install from your new ppa?
[15:29] <rsalveti> robclark: actually it's not the same: 4.7.0-0ubuntu4.2ppa2 (new) 4.7.0-0ubuntu4.2ppa1 (old)
[15:30] <robclark> hmm..  sudo apt-get install libqt4-opengl tells me I already have latest version..
[15:58] <sveinse> Is libqt4-opengl for QWS or X11?
[16:27] <rsalveti> robclark: what oprofile version are you using atm?
[16:27] <sveinse> How is resolv.conf handled in respect of dhclient on maverick? Is it updated automatically?
[16:28] <rsalveti> robclark: I remember I saw a but reported by GrueMaster
[16:28] <rsalveti> sveinse: yup, should be
[16:28] <robclark> rsalveti: whatever is in maverick..  although it is not working..
[16:28] <ogra> sveinse, if you use ifup (/etc/network/interfaces) it is
[16:28] <robclark> but perf does seem to work, so that is what I'm using for now..
[16:28] <ogra> sveinse, plain manual dhclient call wont update it
[16:29] <rsalveti> robclark: oh, got it, will try to check why oprofile is not working later
[16:29] <sveinse> ogra: Ahh. So ifup is it then...
[16:29] <robclark> although you have to explicitly run perf_2.6.35-903  (the wrapper script isn't working)
[16:29] <robclark> rsalveti: btw, any ideas about: "Unable to load graphicssystem "opengl""
[16:29] <sveinse> ogra: Is ifup triggered by udev events (like eth cable insert)?
[16:30] <ogra> not sure
[16:30] <sveinse> ogra: ok, thanks
[16:30] <rsalveti> robbiew: hm, weird, should work if you have the proper qt opengl packages installed
[16:31] <rsalveti> robbiew: sorry
[16:31] <rsalveti> robclark: ^
[16:31] <robclark> it's possible I need to install something else..  I'm sort of newbie to qt so no idea where to start..
[16:32] <robclark> just to sanity check.. the backend is still called "opengl" and not "opengles" or something like that?
[16:33] <rsalveti> robclark: afaik it should be still opengl
[16:35] <rsalveti> the build sounds correct: OpenGL support ......... yes (OpenGL ES 2.x)
[16:36] <robclark> rsalveti: short snippet from strace:  http://pastebin.com/CBCgp3LP
[16:37] <robclark> my guess something is not getting packaged, which should be in that directory?
[16:39] <rsalveti> robclark: yup, could be the case
[16:39] <rsalveti> let me check the logs
[16:39] <robclark> k
[16:48] <rsalveti> robclark: it seems fine http://paste.ubuntu.com/555140/
[16:49] <rsalveti> anyway, I'm starting my panda and will check
[16:49] <rsalveti> let me just get some food first, almost 3 pm already
[16:50] <robclark> rsalveti:  /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/graphicssystems vs /usr/bin/graphicssystems
[16:50] <rsalveti> but even on my desktop it's using /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/graphicssystems/libqglgraphicssystem.so
[16:51] <robclark> hmm
[16:51]  * rsalveti brb, lunch
[17:09] <quadrispro> hi guys
[17:15] <quadrispro> I've been working on bug #704027 so I'd like to have chances to testbuild before uploading
[17:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 704027 in gavl (Ubuntu) "gavl 1.2.0-1 FTBFS on armel (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704027
[17:15] <quadrispro> there is a way to make me happy? :)
[17:17] <sveinse> Am I correct that there is no lsusb ported to armel?
[17:18] <ogra> quadrispro, attach a debdiff to the bug and someone for the team will get to it
[17:18] <ogra> s/for/of/
[17:18] <ogra> sveinse, hmm ?
[17:18] <ogra> ogra@ac100:~$ which lsusb
[17:18] <ogra> /usr/sbin/lsusb
[17:19] <sveinse> apt-get install lsusb
[17:19] <sveinse> E: Unable to locate package lsusb
[17:19] <sveinse> That's maverick
[17:19] <ogra> you want usbutils
[17:20] <sveinse> aaahh.. go figure
[17:21] <sveinse> what is the status of natty? We are using maverick (via rootstock) and it works pretty good. Is natty something to consider over maverick?
[17:21] <quadrispro> ogra, thanks
[17:21] <ogra> sveinse, natty will bring the new unity-2d UI for arm
[17:22] <sveinse> Any major news for the platform itself, like new compile-settings etc?
[17:22] <ogra> newer toolchain
[17:22] <ogra> no changed default build options, no
[17:23] <ogra> i think until we switch to hardfloat there wont be massive changes anymore
[17:23] <ogra> and the hf port will still need time
[17:24] <sveinse> Am I correct to assume that there is no problems with using hardfloat in custom applications, right?
[17:25] <ogra> it needs a complete recompile
[17:25] <ogra> its a completely different ABI
[17:26] <sveinse> ok, so the application's external references (to libs & stuff) get garbled with the new ABI. So, basically, no then
[17:27] <sveinse> Are any of you doing remote debugging against armel? The armel cross compiler is available, but I cannot find any gdb cross for armel...
[17:28] <ogra> i think lool just works on that
[17:28] <sveinse> Would be nice to have something that matched the gdbserver in armel
[17:28] <sveinse> nice!
[17:30] <sveinse> What's the deal with --sysroot being removed from the cross toolchain?
[17:30] <lool> sveinse: http://hudson.dooz.org/job/armel-gdb/ has a decently recent package
[17:31] <sveinse> lool: Great! Thanks
[17:31] <sveinse> I know that it conflicts with xdeb, but removing --sysroot is IMHO somwhat a drastic measure
[17:32] <sveinse> I ruins our target cross buildsystem
[17:32] <GrueMaster> rsalveti: The bug I filed in oprofile was because robclark pointed it out.  I don't have much detail beyond what is in the bug report.
[17:33] <sveinse> lool: I presume it's matched against the armel gdbserver, similar to the gnueabi cross toolchain, right?
[17:53] <lool> sveinse: yes
[18:25] <Martyn> ping?
[18:38] <rsalveti> argh, crap internet connection
[18:38] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: ok
[19:06] <Jack87> hey this place is live for a change.
[19:06]  * Jack87 needs peeps who want to try ubuntu on nook color.
[19:07] <Jack87> or help  me try it and hope nook doesnt explode