[06:12] <head_victim> blahdeblah: just added the team meeting to the website with all the details, feel free to rearrange the content if required.
[06:26] <blahdeblah> head_victim: links added - you happy for me to publish?
[06:26] <head_victim> Sure, I'll have to remember to learn to put the links in properly next time sorry
[06:26] <head_victim> I think I said that last time.
[06:28] <blahdeblah> Check out the source now.
[06:31] <blahdeblah> head_victim: published
[06:31] <head_victim> As in the page source?
[06:31] <head_victim> Or is there something on the website I can go to to see
[06:32] <blahdeblah> Edit the page
[06:37] <head_victim> I swear this is some secret stuff designed to make people like me look stupid :P
[06:38] <head_victim> I can add a new comment, I can see it on the calendar, buggered if I know how to edit it
[06:44] <blahdeblah> There should be an edit tab at the top if you are logged in.
[06:45] <blahdeblah> head_victim: Or just visit http://www.ubuntu.org.au/node/80/edit
[06:48] <head_victim> I"m not authorised.
[06:49] <head_victim> (I'm not admin there if that is required)
[06:49]  * blahdeblah scratches head
[06:50] <blahdeblah> Try again now
[06:51] <head_victim> NOpe, even logged out and back in
[06:52] <blahdeblah> What about now?
[06:53] <head_victim> Nope
[06:53]  * blahdeblah keeps pressing buttons
[06:53] <head_victim> I can on the lca one
[06:53] <head_victim> node/78
[06:54] <head_victim> So at least I konw what I should be doing to links now :)
[06:54] <blahdeblah> try now
[06:55] <head_victim> Really weird, there is an edit tab on all the entries except that one
[06:57] <blahdeblah> hit view again
[06:57] <head_victim> Nope
[06:58] <elky> blahdeblah, just make him an out-and-out admin. fussing around with special users is just a waste of time sometimes
[06:58] <head_victim> It's just weird, I CAN edit other pages
[06:59] <head_victim> Just not that one
[06:59] <elky> head_victim, which is stupid since it's your own, so it's probably missing a "edit own event" permission
[06:59] <blahdeblah> elky: no
[06:59] <elky> ?
[06:59] <blahdeblah> That was the first thing i checked
[07:00] <elky> no what?
[07:00] <blahdeblah> elky: No, it is not missing an "edit own event" permission; that was the first thing i checked
[07:01] <blahdeblah> elky: I will make head_victim an admin at the end of this, but i'd rather keep working on it to understand why this one is not doing the right thing.
[07:02] <blahdeblah> head_victim: So can you edit http://www.ubuntu.org.au/node/78 ?
[07:03] <sagaci> How's the stand coming along for lca?
[07:04] <blahdeblah> head_victim: Also keep in mind that http://ubuntu.org.au/node/80 and http://www.ubuntu.org.au/node/80 are NOT the same thing - you have to login to both web sites separately.
[07:05] <sagaci> Well that's inconvenient
[07:05] <blahdeblah> sagaci: That's life ;-)
[07:05] <elky> blahdeblah, he doesn't have revisions permissions, and there's revisions for that event.
[07:06] <blahdeblah> elky: "view revisions"?
[07:06] <blahdeblah> Doesn't matter - i'll do both revert and view
[07:06] <blahdeblah> head_victim: OK - try now
[07:07] <sagaci> Voila?
[07:11] <head_victim> blahdeblah: it has revisions now
[07:11] <blahdeblah> head_victim: Does it have an edit tab now?
[07:11] <head_victim> No just view and revisions
[07:12] <head_victim> The lca2011 one has view and edit (but no revisions)
[07:12] <sagaci> Give him edit rights
[07:12] <head_victim> Heh all this so I could learn hot to put links in properly
[07:12] <head_victim> I feel bad creating all this hassle
[07:12] <blahdeblah> sagaci: He already has edit rights
[07:12] <blahdeblah> head_victim: It's no hassle
[07:12] <sagaci> We like solving these issues
[07:13] <blahdeblah> head_victim: Would you mind doing a hard refresh of the page (i.e. hold down shift while refreshing)?
[07:13] <head_victim> I just tried that
[07:14] <head_victim> I'll try it on a pc I haven't used before in case it's a cache thing
[07:14] <blahdeblah> yeah - good
[07:14] <head_victim> Crap, it had my login details already there though
[07:14] <blahdeblah> ?
[07:15] <elky> it won't have cached today's problem though
[07:15] <head_victim> Ok cleared cache and still no dice
[07:15] <head_victim> I have revisions and view, no edit
[07:16] <head_victim> And on that note I have to probably start heading for the door to go to work :/
[07:16] <elky> In opposite news, i have to head for the door to go home. ciao :P
[07:16] <head_victim> elky: aww wanna swap?
[07:16] <elky> hellsno
[07:16] <head_victim> No worries, I'll catch you all later
[07:17] <head_victim> blahdeblah: if you get any further just leave messages and I'll try again in the morning. Cheers heaps for your help blahdeblah and elky  :D
[07:17] <head_victim> Cheerio
[07:24]  * blahdeblah wishes Drupal had better logging of access denied errors
[11:31] <sagaci> Anyone used the internet at the international and domestic airports in sydney
[11:38] <sagaci> They run ubuntu 8.04/10 with some kind of build of opera
[11:38] <sagaci> Blew me out
[13:23] <Swathe> boo my 19" lcd i use for irc died
[13:24] <Swathe> on  screen make me feel like a cripple
[13:25] <gggs> Swathe: how'd it die?
[13:26] <Swathe> screen lickered went white and faded
[13:26] <Swathe> now doesnt detect signla
[13:26] <Swathe> mine are on 24/7 and i had it 4 years so it's had a fair run
[13:26] <gggs> it's not an Acer by any chance
[13:28] <Swathe> nah viewsonic
[13:28] <Swathe> istill have this 23"LED one for now
[13:28] <Swathe> would like a second one but a bit strapped for cash
[13:31] <gggs> dual monitors is nice, also easy with a laptop with hardware support
[13:31] <gggs> yea I wonder if LED-backlight LCDs will last longer
[13:32] <Swathe> 3 years is enough for me
[13:32] <Swathe> they are great to look at and watch movies on
[13:35] <gggs> 3 years? I'm using an old 17" alongside a 15.4" laptop, it must be 5 or 6 years old from my previous PC, I resurrected it ~2yrs ago with a $20 PSU that was lying around a local electronics store
[13:37] <gggs> I still prefer matte screens, glossy is easier to clean but reflects too much
[13:39] <Swathe> it dpends where you work with them
[13:39] <Swathe> i sold my gloss mac book pro and have regretted it ever sonce
[13:39] <Swathe> since
[13:39] <Swathe> loved that thing
[13:41] <gggs> sounds like Mac <3
[13:45] <gggs> what did you sell it for?
[13:50] <Swathe> golf clubs lol
[13:50] <Swathe> then i sold my hex core rig, bought a mac pro , sold it for an xps laptop and am now back on another 6 core rig lol
[13:52] <gggs> 6 cores?!
[13:53] <Swathe> yeah
[13:54] <Swathe> the AMD 6 core phenoms
[13:54] <Swathe> they are cheap
[13:55] <sagaci> Hi
[13:55] <gggs> I'd imagine they'd make a fair bit of heat & power
[13:55] <gggs> sagaci: hey
[13:56] <Swathe> yeah they suck a bit of power
[13:56] <Swathe> but i don't really gou out and get blotto or anything so i would rather spend money keeping my pc running lol
[13:57] <gggs> how often do you use all six cores?
[13:57] <sagaci> Two cartons of beer or gfx upgrade
[13:57] <sagaci> Easy answer
[13:59] <Swathe> not much atm but once i start rendering videos again i will be
[13:59] <Swathe> people always ask about why so many cores but when the CPU's are so cheap why not
[14:00] <Swathe> they run pretty cools 
[14:00] <Swathe> mine idles at 5 in rockhampton which i think is a good effort
[14:00] <Swathe> in the heat of the day with house all locek up might get up to 45
[14:01] <gggs> 5, as in, it idles at 5'c?
[14:01] <Swathe> nah 35
[14:01] <Swathe> typo lol
[14:01] <Swathe> 5 i wish
[14:03] <gggs> even 35' is good for a 6-core, is it water cooled or fan?
[14:03] <Swathe> fan using stock HSF
[14:03] <Swathe> he stock one has heatpipes and stuff
[14:07] <gggs> which Phenom is it?
[14:13] <Swathe> 1055T
[14:14] <gggs> wow, 195W under load; 87W idle
[14:23] <Swathe> lol
[14:24] <Swathe> vroom vroom
[14:26] <gggs> that's like, fifty Intel Atoms
[14:34] <Swathe> my last lappy ran a dual core atom
[14:34] <Swathe> it was pretty good
[14:35] <Swathe> god i reall need to start going to be earlier
[14:36] <gggs> yea there's a growing market for low-power processors, I <3 my ARM-A8 Nokia N900, and those 5W Atoms are impressively efficient
[14:37] <Swathe> yeah i had a n900
[14:37] <Swathe> it was a good bit of kit
[14:38] <gggs> heh, still is
[14:39] <Swathe> yeah
[14:39] <Swathe> few guys from our lug have them
[14:39] <Swathe> man i loved the fm tranmittor
[14:43] <gggs> yea I went to a lecture last year by Richard Stallman, and there was at least 2 or 3 guys in the audience with one. Kindof coincidental, since RMS doesn't like cellphones
[14:43] <Swathe> yeah i went and saw him to in brisbane
[14:46] <gggs> didn't like cameras either, so it's kindof ironic that I took a photo of him with my 5-megapixel GNU/Linux-based internet tablet
[14:47] <Swathe> lol he let me get a photo with him
[14:47] <Swathe> and signed a copy of the GPL for me
[14:47] <Swathe> i 've emailed him a few times since, he always replies
[14:50] <gggs> he came off as a bit grumpy and antisocial when I saw him, but I guess FSF lectures are routine for him, and you can't argue with his achievements
[14:51] <Swathe> that's just the way he is. In brisbane he was ticked because it was muggy and they wurned off the wifi used for the nicta conference and he wanted to use it
[14:51] <Swathe> plus i think a few people were there to make fun of him, but i admire his untiring effort of sticking to his guns
[14:52] <gggs> yea absolutely, he's an activist in any sense of the word
[14:55] <Swathe> well i better hit the sack, my new android tablet arrives tomorrow 
[14:57] <gggs> nice, big tech spender by the sound of it
[14:57] <Swathe> well it's only the cheap ptous tablet on a 12 month contract
[14:57] <Swathe> will use it for work
[14:58] <Swathe> btw, i'm a windows sysadmin lol
[14:58] <Swathe> and i run ubuntu on my machine at work lol
[14:58] <Swathe> full time
[14:59] <gggs> sounds like a perfectly good idea, you can run XP/Vista/7 all at once in a VM
[14:59] <Swathe> well i just rdp into them
[15:00] <Swathe> run the vsphere client for the cluster as a terminal service so i don't need to fart around putting vm's on my desktop
[15:01] <gggs> Unix backend, or Outlook/etc?
[15:01] <Swathe> nah it's all windows atm, but i am allowed to implement any solution as long as it passes the test by the directors
[15:02] <Swathe> so there will be more nix going in for sure
[15:04] <Swathe> we are moving to a nw vm cluster so atm its more r&d testing etc for the proposal
[15:04] <Swathe> anyway better get to bed or i will be shattered tomorrow
[15:04] <Swathe> nite
[15:04]  * Swathe stumbles off
[15:04] <gggs> nice, I'll let you get to bed because I'm about to do the same
[15:05] <gggs> you've got a big day of r&d and playing with new toys tmrw
[21:51] <blahdeblah> elky, head_victim: I worked out the problem with permissions - it needed "administer filters".  Pretty bizarre, but i'm glad i spent the time to work it out.
[21:53] <blahdeblah> elky, head_victim: Correction: it needed BOTH administer filters and administer nodes