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akgranerkim0 do you do videocasts like Daniel and Jono?  if so what't the link to them /me is working on uwn02:32
nhandlerakgraner: We had some confusion 2 weeks ago. We found some links to weekly IRC meetings, but didn't see any videocasts02:41
akgraneryep they don't happen every week02:41
akgranerso you just have to look back to see the weeks they were included and use those formats  - sometimes the summary formats change based on the podcast/videocast02:42
akgranerI just added Daniels - but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing kim0 if he did one last week02:43
akgranerahh dpm is doing them too  - let me find his as well and add it02:43
nigelbakgraner: topic03:45
nigelbakgraner: wait, I'm late.  Well, I put the links in the topic03:45
akgranernigelb, yep I have those - I added them to the "featured podcasts/videocasts - just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing kim0's if he had one :-)03:49
nigelb:)03:49
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kim0akgraner: Hi Amber .. I'm not doing ustreams like daniel (David is), I'm doing screencasts at http://www.youtube.com/ubuntucloud07:40
nigelbhey kim007:40
nigelbenjoying jet lag? :)07:40
kim0nigelb: hey o/07:41
kim0yeah I'm destroyed this morning :)07:41
nigelbheh07:42
nigelbg2807:42
dholbachgood morning08:41
kim0dholbach: morning man08:57
dholbachhey kim008:57
* kim0 is sleepy :)08:58
* dholbach too08:58
dholbachhola randa09:31
randahi dholbach! how was your BD09:32
dholbachranda, very nice - I got back home at 8 in the morning and my sister and brother had already set up a breakfast table with cake and everything - it was really nice09:33
randaawww dholbach :)09:34
dholbachranda, and when I went out for dinner last night, we went to a place where I go quite often, the owner gave me a huge box of Arabic sweets there and the dinner was free too09:34
randareally??? wow! that doesn't happen in London dholbach09:35
dholbachmy sister and I know the owner quite well in the meantime :)09:36
randaI see :)09:36
akgranerkim0 thanks!09:38
dpmhey all10:37
dholbachhey dpm10:40
nigelbhey dpm, dholbach :)10:40
dholbachhi nigelb10:40
nigelbdholbach: Glad to know you had a wonderful birthday :)10:40
dpmhey dholbach, hey nigelb10:43
dakerhaha new tech 3D without glasses http://youtu.be/Uef17zOCDb8?hd=111:22
randadaker: haaa!!!!13:16
randadaker: did you read the comment: "I'd rather wear glasses than looking like a retard" lol13:17
dakerfunny ツ13:41
jonomorning all!15:51
jonokim0, dholbach I would like to recommend we cancel our calls today - as we just got back15:51
jonounless you want to discuss anything specific15:51
kim0jono: agreed15:52
kim0I'd be yawning like hell too :)15:52
nigelbkim0: haha, go sleep :p15:52
kim0hehe15:52
jonokim0, haha15:52
jonosafe flight back?15:52
kim0Yeah just long15:53
* nigelb waves to jono 15:53
jonohey nigelb!15:53
kim04pm Sat - 9pm Sun15:53
jonokim0, :-)15:53
jonokim0, ugh!15:53
jonowell take some swap days off work15:53
* kim0 hugs jono 15:53
* jono hugs kim0 :-)15:54
kim0the rally was great though15:54
jonokim0, glad you enjoyed it - I think it was a great week :-)15:55
kim0Any spam exeprts around .. I'm getting tons of comments on the cloud portal saying things like15:56
kim0"Great thoughts - thanks for sharing. It is nice to come across quality sites that get to the point.15:56
kim0Frankly I'm not sure whether or not that's spam .. it's generic enough to be spam15:56
kim0but what is the guy pushing!15:57
nigelbkim0: is it a wordpress install?15:57
kim0Yes15:57
nigelbinstall askimet.  Its totally worth it.  And yes, that is spam I believe15:57
* kim0 goes crying to IS15:58
kim0nigelb: I'd have to get an "API key" right ? is that free ?15:58
nigelbkim0: check the link for the commentor.  Those kind of posts, the links are generally into spam15:58
nigelbkim0: Yeah, since it isn't a personal website, you'd have to.15:58
kim0nigelb: like his website ?15:58
nigelbyeah15:59
kim0sigh .. it's nice having those comments though :)15:59
kim0very encouraging hehe15:59
nigelbAlso, popey would be able to give you more authoritative opinion :)15:59
popeyhuh?15:59
nigelbpopey: spam on wordpress install, like "Great thoughts - thanks for sharing. It is nice to come across quality sites that get to the point."16:00
popeyi spot those a mile off and delete them16:00
popeyakismet16:00
kim0popey: Thanks16:01
kim0nigelb: thanks16:01
nigelbkim0: np :)16:01
nhandlerYep, we get those on the Fridge all of the time. I usually look at the URL and email address (as they are usually very clear give-aways)16:04
dpmhey morning jono16:13
dakerkim0, it's not a spam ツ16:13
kim0daker: :)16:14
dakerthat man is on the cloud forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166325416:14
dakerkim0, raymdt16:14
kim0daker: what about him16:14
dakerthat man is the one who posted the comment on the cloud portal16:15
kim0daker: It's not just one16:16
dholbachjono, WFM16:16
dakerkim0, and why comment are enabled on all the posts ?16:17
dakerit's supposed to be just for "Screencasts" posts16:18
dakerkim0, if we got spams that's mean we are on the right way :D16:21
kim0daker: coz the site is all about community ..16:24
kim0daker: they are supposed to be able to leave comments16:24
dakerkim0, and who's going to reply ?16:25
kim0daker: anyone who reads the article man!16:30
kim0I'm looking for a "I want you" uncle-Sam type picture, with Ubuntu logo on the hat!16:31
kim0Anyone with Gimp skills, interested to hack that .. ping me16:33
dholbachalright my friends - I call it a day - see you tomorrow!18:09
dpmnow time for me to call it a day. See you all tomorrow!18:58
jonodinda, around?20:20
senseczajkowski: People from the Dutch community reacted to the disapproval of Ubuntu NL by composing a declaration that in its first version asked who the heck you think you are to approve or disapprove of Ubuntu NL. :P Not everyone was happy with the result of the vote.20:22
sensemost weren't20:22
senseI'm using the occasion to educate people about the way our community works.20:24
sense(The declaration was supposed to be sent to the LoCo Council.)20:24
czajkowskisense: you also know there are 6 of us, not just me :) and if they don't know who the loco council are, they may need to understand how the community works, which is another sign the team doesnt operate well.20:25
Pendulumsense: good luck20:26
senseczajkowski: A lot of people showed they have no much interest in the international community, they're happy with the forums as they are now, and said that we don't need some group to come and approve us.20:26
Pendulumsense: can I PM you?20:26
senseczajkowski: I know there are six, but you are my favourite target!20:26
sensePendulum: fine20:26
czajkowskisense: I dont like being a target thanks ;( I'll happily help anyone but there are 6 of us20:27
dindajono:  i'm aqround20:27
czajkowskiand we are here to help, Ubuntu is an international community. with that comes an large community and in some cases a way to do things. I am sorry your team doesnt want to know more20:28
senseczajkowski: I'll try to spread my questions around a bit next time. I just wanted to share the reaction with you, so you know how communities can look at this process.20:28
sensedifferent communities20:28
senseI'm not fond of ignorance-lovers either.20:28
czajkowskisense: tbh, the majority of teams like it, the ones who don't seem to be the ones who've been unapproved which is slighly unfortunate.20:29
czajkowskiSo rather than work to get it fixed, many focus on the not being approved bit20:29
senseThe whole approval thing has continually met with a lot of indifference since the beginning of your probes.20:30
czajkowskisense: the flip side of course, if a team doesnt want to be approved that's fine. can't force people to either.20:31
senseyeah20:34
senseBut I think the indifferent people are contributing too little to be very influential on our policy.20:34
czajkowskisense: I guess you have to let them have their say, and someone needs to then come up with the final outcome and if it can be voted on or decided great20:35
senseczajkowski: I am angry at what seems to have happened at the meeting last Sunday. Apparently they all started over again and came up with their own basic organisational proposal, instead of discussing the one we've been discussing online since 1 December. Most of the people present were community skeptics, so their proposal is again shutting the community our.20:37
senseout20:37
senseSo we're nothing further yet.20:37
czajkowski:s20:38
senseThat meeting was supposed to start the implementation.20:39
senseTypically they ignored the plans and started all over again.20:39
senseA classic example of why we are such an indecisive LoCo.20:39
senseI had to concentrate on my studies, but first needed a fourty minutes walk outdoors to calm down after I heard it.20:40
czajkowskisense: look, your education comes first LoCo then ok20:41
senseyes20:41
czajkowskiif its meant to be it'll work out ok20:41
senseThat's why I didn't go to the meeting, while I actually should have gone to control it. :P20:42
senseMy mind is sometimes just so terribly busy, but that's a flaw I'm aware of.20:42
jonodinda, hey20:46
jonoso I am concious we don't lose track of how we figure out how to get the manual on d.u.c20:46
jonoso I am registering a bug and I will assign it to you as the manual lead, and then we can have the discussion there20:46
czajkowskisense: this is why I like to see one chair one who always does it, but that's just me20:49
senseI am in favour of clear leadership, but I do think that you need extra brainpower to help you.20:49
senseczajkowski: By the way, did you have time to write a reply to my mail?20:49
czajkowskisense: if WE ( the 6 of us) can help let us know. but sometimes either the team needs to resolve it themselves if there is that much oposition, or we step in like we have done in the past say with California and that team is doing really well20:49
czajkowskisense: last week I was at a conference for 3 days and I'm off sick atm from work20:50
czajkowskiCalifornia is now doing pretty well and that was a long few months but it's working out really well thanks to the newly elected leaders.20:50
senseOK, I understand the hint. ;) I'll wait for the results of Sunday's meeting to float to the surface, and I'll send the LoCo COUNCIL a mail with a request for advice when things are more clear.20:51
senseczajkowski: Become better soon!20:51
czajkowskiI'd like my voice back, having conference calls sounding like this is rather hard20:52
senseHaving a voice is very convenient.20:53
senseI'm going offline now, see you all!21:05
dindajono;  ok on the bug - still not sure what you mean by 'the links must never break."21:30
jonodinda, yeah, I saw you send me a mail about that21:31
jonowhy don't we schedule a call for tomorrow to discuss?21:31
dindajono: ok21:31
jonodinda, when would be a good time for you?21:32
dindajono:  you back in your home timezone?21:33
jonodinda, yup21:33
jonotomorrow afternoon work?21:33
dindajono:  any time afternoon is good21:33
jonodinda, 1pm Pacific?21:34
dindajono: perfect21:34
jonodinda, thanks!21:34
jonoinvite sent21:34
akgranerjono - Mo's Bacon Bar for the win!  Apple-wood smoked Bacon inside of a chocolate bar add that to your list of bacon items you need to try before you die :-P22:23
czajkowskiMat revell makes my life a lot simplier22:26
jonoakgraner, mmmmm22:36
paultagoh jesus akgraner22:38
Pendulumakgraner: I think I saw that in Whole Foods22:42
akgranerpaultag, I know great stuff right... I'm bringing some to SCaLE...this is a must try..just saying22:43
akgranerPendulum, I got this at World Market... but it sounds like something Whole Foods would carry22:44
PendulumI saw some sort of chocolate covered bacon22:44
* czajkowski wants taffey 22:44
* AlanBell is in Belgium and has chocolate, beer and waffles22:45
akgranerBacon is the sole reason  I fail at being a vegetarian.22:45
Pendulumhaha22:46
akgranerAlanBell, show off!!! :-P  I found Belgium cherry beer here yesterday - heaven!22:46
pleia2yum, kreik lambic :d22:46
pleia2kriek too22:46
akgranerpleia2, yeppers22:46
AlanBellakgraner: don't worry I am not having a great time, just sitting in a hotel room with it all22:46
czajkowski2 weeks to Brussels :D22:47
AlanBellalthough to be fair, now sitting here with somewhat less of it than there used to be22:47
Pendulumakgraner: you could socialise with the other people on your course22:47
czajkowskiand 4 days of CHeery and banana beer22:47
popey:(22:47
Pendulumgah22:47
PendulumAlanBell: ^^22:47
AlanBellwe are all scattered about and I haven't really had a chance to talk to them all yet22:48
akgranerAlanBell, I read that heard George Thorogood singing "I drink alone" in my head- that is scary22:48
AlanBellactually I hardly ever drink so I am not bothered about drinking alone from time to time22:49
czajkowskipopey: why the :(22:49
akgranerI am never bothered by drinking alone - some my my best friends have perfected this art..22:50
czajkowskimeh I travel on my own too much to care, plus I always end up chatting to random strangers and having good chats22:51
AlanBellanyhow, not alone, been chatting on IRC all evening22:52
popeyczajkowski: not going to fosdem22:58
popeyand!22:59
popeyI thought I had an old adsl modem kicking around the place, but I seem to not have22:59
popeydunno if I put it in the loft or binned it22:59
czajkowskipopey: I'll bring you back some chocolate :D23:00
popeyheh23:00
czajkowskiso need to nab my boss this week and sit down and write my flipping talk23:00
czajkowskiby nab I do mean tie down23:02

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