[04:37] hi =is possible to open a jar file in ubuntu??? === hannesw__ is now known as hannesw [15:15] lifeless: do you have time to discuss Hudson, Acegi and Spring Security? Know that you have worked in this area in upstream and would value your opinion. [15:15] just in a meeting right now [15:15] so yes, but responses will be a little latent [15:16] thanks; OK so I've now got to the point with the Hudson packaging work that I'm now looking at Hudson itself in more detail [15:17] so at the moment the 1.x codebase uses Acegi security; I've been looking to upgrade to Spring Security as we already have this packaged in Debian/Ubuntu [15:17] But then I came across a thread on the Hudson mailing list in late 2009 where this was rejected by upstream. [15:18] yeah, with a patch from me :) [15:18] yep - hence the ping! [15:18] so the argument was binary incompatability with plugins - also shipped as binaries [15:19] OK so for Ubuntu the plan is to build plugins from source as well so we could take the approach of [15:19] 1) patch core hudson to use spring security [15:19] 2) patch any plugins we package to also use spring security [15:20] I like this approach as it means I don't have to go near packaging Acegi (which uses load of old versions of spring) [15:20] But it will make packaging plugins in the future more awkward..... [15:21] it also means that folk can't grab plugins from the plugin site [15:21] I'd discuss that plan with upstream [15:21] upgrading to spring would be the awesome [15:21] yep - not great :-( [15:22] I agree that upgrading would be awesome but I can't see this happening upstream prior to a major tech refresh (potentially with 2.0) [15:26] OK I'll ping a question to the dev mailing list a get some opinion... [15:26] thanks