[00:30] <patdk-lap> did you upgrade your fe?
[16:18] <DaveMorris> any suggestions on which HDD config will be better for recordings, I can afford 4 2TB drives.  I plan on having 3 DVB-T and 2-4 DVB-S2.  Disks will all be local, with a quad 3GHz AMD.  All RAID will be the standard Linux software.
[16:18] <DaveMorris>  a.) RAID 5
[16:18] <DaveMorris>  b.) RAID 6
[16:18] <DaveMorris>  c.) 2 X RAID1 with a storage group assigned to each one
[16:20] <DaveMorris> please highlight me with your response
[19:01] <DaveMorris1> ok, upgraded from karmic to lucid
[19:02] <DaveMorris1> now backend won't start (it got deleted for some reason)
[19:02] <DaveMorris1> dave@atlantia:~$ mythbackend
[19:02] <DaveMorris1> NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run.
[19:02] <DaveMorris1> why do I need OpenGL now to run the backend?
[19:06] <DaveMorris1> I'm guessing it's linked against OpenGL and I've not got the correct Nvidia driver installed
[19:10] <rhpot1991> DaveMorris1: looks like the nvidia version in there doesn't support your cpu
[19:10] <DaveMorris1> yeah, gfx card isn't nvidia though
[19:10] <DaveMorris1>  VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. Savage 4 (rev 03)
[19:10] <rhpot1991> you could always try installing an older version of nvidia from x-updates or jya's repo
[19:10] <rhpot1991> ah, well thats weird
[19:11] <rhpot1991> if you launch restricted drivers manager does it say that nvidia is enabled?
[19:11] <DaveMorris1> says nothing decteted
[19:12] <DaveMorris1> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep sse sohws my CPU doesn't support SSE
[19:17] <DaveMorris1> yeah, somethings already pulled in a load of nvidia modules
[19:17] <DaveMorris1> packages even
[19:19] <DaveMorris1> fixed
[19:19] <DaveMorris1> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-173-modaliases nvidia-185-modaliases nvidia-96-modaliases nvidia-common nvidia-current nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-settings
[19:19] <DaveMorris1> solved it
[19:19] <DaveMorris1> for the logs ;)
[19:19] <DaveMorris1> and google
[19:20] <rhpot1991> weird, nvidia-current prob
[19:20] <rhpot1991> modaliases should be fine, thats what restricted driver manager uses to check for the hardware
[19:22] <DaveMorris1> mythtv-backend also seemed to get deselected on the upgrade on both my backends, but not much point reporting it since karmic is end of life
[19:24] <genec> DaveMorris1: how did you upgrade?
[19:25] <DaveMorris1> do-release-upgrade
[19:30] <DaveMorris1> 0.24 seems to crash (hangs at least) whenever I exit a video
[19:30] <genec> iirc, that should have been best practice
[19:32] <DaveMorris1> ahh, alsa:pulse fixes that problem
[21:28]  * DaveMorris1 grumbles, I don't like the mythbackend change, where you have to have a capature card for it to start
[21:37] <mrand> DaveMorris1: I don't recall the exact reason upstream did that.  You can always use a dummy tuner/card or, I think, even a network stream.
[21:38] <superm1> i don't like it either
[21:47] <tgm4883> DaveMorris, mrand superm1 I'm not sure I like it either, but a capture card has always been required for the backend to function according to upstream
[21:47] <tgm4883> it's just not until the latest version that there was a check in place
[21:47] <superm1> worked for me before
[21:48] <tgm4883> superm1, <tgm4883> it's just not until the latest version that there was a check in place
[22:23] <DaveMorris1> tgm4883: I have mydesktop setup as a slave to do commflagging
[22:24] <DaveMorris1> the master backend is under powered atm (dual P2 clocked 450Mhz)
[22:25] <DaveMorris1> mrand: yes you can, but I had to create a file for it to open as well
[22:26] <DaveMorris1> I guess the line checking could be patched out, or upstream might be nice and allow a pre-processor to disable it
[22:29] <superm1> if it's a simple patch out i'm game for that
[22:30] <superm1> i just dont want to get into something that has to be refreshed all the time
[22:30] <DaveMorris1> which is what would be nice with the pre-proccssor
[22:30] <DaveMorris1> you'd just pass in -DDISABLE_BACKEND_CAPATURECARD_CHECK
[22:31] <superm1> glad you're volunteering to go fight w/ em on it :)
[22:31] <DaveMorris1> haha
[22:31] <DaveMorris1> sure
[22:31] <DaveMorris1> btw one of the pages on the wiki was pointing at svn.mythtv rather than code.mythtv
[22:32] <superm1> both work don't they?
[22:33] <DaveMorris1> atm, wasn't sure if they'd dropped the svn subdomain though
[22:33] <superm1> go ahead and fix the wiki page if you come across it again
[22:34] <DaveMorris1> will do
[22:46] <rhpot1991> why not just make the fake tuner?
[22:55] <DaveMorris1> actually I've just tested and the slave backend will startup without a tuner
[22:55] <DaveMorris1> rhpot1991: it was complaining if the file didn't exist
[22:56] <DaveMorris1> and I could quite easily delete the file by mistake