/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/01/17/#ubuntu-ops.txt

IdleOnePlease part and have a nice night.00:00
TuskRattleyou are moderating by your gut00:00
tonyyarussoSee, we've been at this long enough to know that this sort of extreme defensiveness rather than simple conversation is a sure sign that you are who you are being claimed to be and have done what you have been claimed to do, so this is rather pointless to continue on at this point.00:00
elkyNo, we're moderating by the fact that you're stalking mackenzie.00:00
TuskRattlethere is nothing about me that is objectively who you think i am00:00
TuskRattlei can only tell so much. the best bet is you have an ip log showing this ip as being banned00:01
tonyyarussoWho, of course, is also a member of this channel, so I think you've done quite enough for one day now.  You can move along now.00:01
TuskRattleeven so why is it i joined offtopic? because no ban was there. the safe assumption is it was lifted. yet we both know i was never abnned00:01
elkyYou take us for fools.00:01
Tm_TTuskRattle: the ban stands, no discussion will make it go away now, so please part00:01
TuskRattlei have no other choice. you have acted like fools00:02
Tm_Tbeat me to it00:02
rwwmerci00:02
IdleOneSo when does rww get promoted to full half op?00:03
* tonyyarusso toddles off00:03
tonyyarusso...full...half?00:03
IdleOneyes00:03
tonyyarussobrain hurty00:03
elkyfull nonexistant-status?00:03
rwwYou mean, when does my probation end?00:03
IdleOneI think 5 stalkers and his own fan club makes him illegible00:04
tonyyarussoIdleOne: oh, do you mean non-probationary channel-specific op?00:04
elkyeligible you mean?00:04
tonyyarussolol00:04
IdleOnewow00:04
IdleOneyes00:04
tonyyarussoawesome typo man00:04
IdleOnehahaha00:04
elkyHe /is/ illegible too, yes.00:04
IdleOneeligible*00:04
tonyyarussoYou mean unintelligible.  We can read his typing just fine.00:04
Tm_TI'm also unintelligent00:05
IdleOneyou said it :P00:06
Tm_TI did? how odd...00:06
rwwIdleOne: I started about 8 weeks ago, and probation is 3 months, assuming IRCC doesn't extend mine.00:06
IdleOneI see no reason to wait on something that is going to happen anyway.00:07
IdleOnelike banning trolls00:07
rwwbeing on probation has yet to actually affect me negatively (I actually prefer only being able to factoidedit in here), so it isn't a big deal ;P00:08
Tm_TFYI the tuskie threats to floodspam our channel00:10
Tm_Tchannels00:10
Tm_TI have wakeup in few hours, so I'll try to get some sleep ->00:11
* rww goes back to work00:15
ubottuilovefairuz called the ops in #ubuntu (Omega11)00:34
EvilPhoenixwe might need an op in #ubuntu00:37
EvilPhoenixthere seems to be  a string of things going on00:37
ubottuilovefairuz called the ops in #ubuntu (Omega11)00:37
EvilPhoenixyeah we've got several things going on in #ubuntu, perhaps someone could deal with it all?00:38
elkywooohoo, PMs from omega1100:40
elkyWell, only one it seems. Oh well.00:43
IdleOnewhen did IRC become a free country?00:53
elkySome time soon after the whole entire internet did?00:54
IdleOnereasonable assumption00:55
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elkysigh, tuskrattle in #u now01:15
elkyaaaand banned.01:15
TuskRattlea have suffered a ban01:16
TuskRattlei did01:16
TuskRattlecan i speak to the man of the OPs? is FLannel around?01:16
IdleOnewill remove in ten01:17
elkywhy is he asking specifically for flannel?01:17
IdleOneelky: don't know but I don't feel like seeing it.01:18
elkyIdleOne, see uw chans01:50
IdleOnelooking, want me to remove?01:51
elkyno, just be there for backup, im at work, attention might need to go elsewhere at important moments01:52
macoelky: so's ya know, the ex who has bans around these parts happens to be a compulsive liar...but you may have figured that out02:06
elkyOh f'sure. You've seen the past few days of -offtopic happenings I take it?02:07
elkyI know he also puppets people.02:07
macono i havent02:09
macoive been in the mountains, and there's no 3G there02:09
macoand ot would be a LOT of backscroll to hunt down.02:09
elkyah. lets just say, someone keeps joining to obsess over a 'mackenzie'. when confronted by me, showed a photo of me and said it was you02:11
macoodd02:11
macoim scrolling back now02:12
macoim apparently a pork chop. but but but you are what you eat, and i dont eat pork!02:12
elkymaco, he's referring to me with that02:13
macooh ok02:13
macoyou dont seem to be bent sideways :P02:13
elkythis started my saturday night02:13
macowhy is he calling you my name?02:14
elkybecause i confronted him about saying creepy stalkery things about photos of you02:14
elkyif you didn't read the logs in reverse this might be easier to follow02:14
IdleOneheh02:15
elkymaco, he's previously been brown_boar and silvercrab02:16
elkybut pretty much just grep for your name in the weekend's -ot logs and start at the top.02:16
macoim scrolling back...thats how it downloads the logs02:17
macoi dont know how to use sqlite to show me logs :-/02:17
macoand i never got that quassel search interface jussi used setup on my server02:17
rwwother option is going to BT. The relevant stuff should be in there.02:18
macoooh good idea02:18
rww36580 is the start of it, scroll up from there.02:19
rww(though BT's rather busy because we've also been dealing with r00t4rd3d and Grexo in the last couple of days)02:20
macoi think i reached it02:36
macoabout where elky asks "what does your mackenzie do?"02:36
IdleOnereached it?02:37
IdleOnethe limit?02:37
elkyyeah02:37
elkyIdleOne, she found the start, she means02:37
IdleOneoh02:37
macoodd nick in uw02:38
hypatiamaco: "odd" :/03:02
hypatiai expect it's one of weev's buddies :/03:02
elkyyeah. he's not in -ot at the moment though, did he get the boot?03:03
hypatianope, hasn't joined there03:03
hypatiaoh03:03
hypatiaweev03:03
hypatiayeah he's still in ot03:03
rwwhe ping timedout earlier03:04
ubottuFloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)03:04
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)03:04
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)03:04
rwwfun times03:04
rwwelky: I was gonna go for a +zq, because I'm nice ;(03:30
elkyremove lets them rejoin, quiet makes them sit there through however long their paste lasts for03:30
rwwhrm, hadn't thought of that03:31
elkyif they've accidentally highlighted an entire 14000 line script...03:31
rwweep. TuskRattle was in #kubuntu 45 minutes ago and we missed it.04:06
* rww doesn't understand the "< user:#ubuntu> I know this is offtopic but I'm going to say it anyway, [link to some random video]" mentality04:58
rww(also, wow, zero webchat users in #ubuntu right now)05:01
elkythat seems unlikely05:04
elkybut. go through and remove all webchat exempts, quickquickquick05:04
rwwI triple checked. And then opped up and checked whether any of the exempted people were in there. There actually are none.05:05
rww(and yes, I cleared out the exempts. that's why I was looking ;)05:05
elkyer... -proxy-users scrollback seems... icky05:05
elkyi think the floodbots are a bit borked.05:06
rwwhow so?05:06
elkyshouldnt it be asking 'are you human' questions there?05:06
rwwno, that's -unregged05:07
elkyoh right.05:07
elkyhmm05:07
rww-proxy-users isn't actually used any more because we switched the webchat banforward to a +q, but they still output messages anyway.05:07
rwwit's useful for diagnostic purposes if a user has issues with it, I guess.05:08
rwwand -unregged looks odd because the FloodBots apparently think that they set +r after an exploit, and they didn't. dunno what's up with that.05:09
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* elky glares at calico person11:32
elkyforget moon phase, are there planets colliding somewhere?12:17
elkywhy do i get the feeling we're being dared to ban a disabled guy?12:25
bazhangits the new star sign12:34
Picipfft.  I don't believe  in astrology.  Anyway, I'm still a Libra. I'm not changing.13:12
bazhangPici, hehe same13:12
jribPici: are you refusing to change or your sign just didn't change?13:22
Picijrib: the former13:28
* Pici watches ogo0p 13:34
bazhanghe's been trolling ##windows13:35
Picigreat.13:35
* jussi has no idea what he is... 14:40
popey"a stream of bits"14:42
jussiI was born on the same day that MLK was shot.14:42
jussipopey: haha14:42
jussidoes anyone else have it thatsometimes chrome/chromium just wont start?14:42
jussiAlthough, not the same year he was shot - Im not _That_ old14:43
Tm_Ttsimpson: thanks for the mail in the ML14:43
popeylies14:43
Tm_Talso thanks for the rest of IRCC on taking firm position on this matter14:43
IdleOnejussi: every now and then, I then kill the pid, seems sometimes chromium doesn't shut down well14:43
jussiTm_T: you are welcome.14:44
IdleOneI second Tm_T's thanks.14:44
h00k@login14:53
ubottuThe operation succeeded.14:53
h00k@btlogin14:53
popeyoh, I spoke to ikonia btw, he's taking a break, and all is well.15:17
h00kjussi: I do have that with Chrome/Chromium, I found it an issue with geolocation, I think15:18
topyliyou need to move to a better location15:20
IdleOneso the problem is not the app15:20
IdleOnegood to know15:20
topyliuser error, as always15:21
Tm_T...Chromium thinks I live in the south pole15:25
IdleOnecommon mistake, it is telling you where to move.15:27
athiest_monkviva la taipei15:35
athiest_monkahahhahah15:36
IdleOnedrive by stupid...15:36
Piciyep15:36
bazhangat least we know what channel to check for his ever-evolving nick changes15:36
Picistalker.pl is handy15:37
IdleOnebut it's nice he keeps us up to date on his ip's15:37
IdleOnesomeone port stalker.pl to xchat15:39
IdleOneplease :(15:39
PiciIt probably wouldn't be too hard.15:39
h00kI need stalker.pl15:39
IdleOneI know I should probably use it as a learning project15:39
PiciI modified it so that it uses mysql instead of sqlite. Now it doesn't block irssi when joining large channels or during netsplits.15:40
Tm_TPici: uh, you might like to share that15:40
PiciTm_T: I probably should clean it up so its not hardcoded.15:41
bazhangwho is garzooka15:41
* Pici doesn't know15:41
Tm_T-uk issue15:41
bazhangah okay phineas/ferb/bolt/catdog/nerml /etc15:41
popeywaffle / phineas / fer... yes15:41
PiciIts a bit of a hack at the moment.15:41
h00koh, turns out I don't have...sqlite stuffs15:41
IdleOneh00k: wait for the picistalk.pl to be released15:42
* h00k waits15:42
IdleOnewell you could use it and then switch I guess15:42
PiciThen I'd need to write something to export from sqlite into $dbms15:43
IdleOnewhile your at it write a port to xchat also15:43
IdleOne:)15:43
bazhangor just switch to irssi15:44
IdleOneno15:45
Pici:(15:45
IdleOneI don't like...sorry15:45
h00kCallico10 Is an interesting person.15:46
bazhang athiest_monk (~loc0@unaffiliated/athiest-monk/x-1817941   new cloak16:29
* Pici wonders if a multi-user stalker datbase would be fast enough.16:43
* mneptok just wonders what an "athiest" is16:48
popeymneptok: Someone who doesn't believe in dictionaries?16:49
rwwtell me about it. took a few tries before I could /whois him because of that :(16:56
* rww ponders setting up an XDCC bot on #ubuntu that serves Ubuntu ISOs renamed to popular movie titles18:43
marienzwe've considered doing something similar on moznet #firefox, iirc19:10
mneptokwe could have porn titles linked to Gentoo .iso images. so people have something to do other than look at porn.19:10
marienzheh19:11
* Pici blames Tm_T for making him spend time fighting with perl19:42
PiciWell, new stalker.pl sort of works, except if you forget to unset a setting when you change database drivers, then it dies and makes you change your settings in your ~/.irssi/config manually.19:50
PiciIf any license guru could help me figure out how to release my changes and conform to the BSD license that would be great too.19:56
GulfstreamCan I have my Swagbucks referral link in the leave message?20:01
IdleOneGulfstream: provided it is not offensive and that you don't join/part flood the channel20:03
IdleOneI don't see why not20:03
GulfstreamOkay.20:05
rwwPici: "BSD license" is ambiguous :(20:10
* rww can't find in source code which one it means, either20:11
Jordan_UPici: As far as I know the only requirement is that you include the (simplified) BSD licence when you distribute the code (in a comment for instance).20:11
rwwoh, there's a LICENSE file. yay.20:11
rwwokay, 3-clause BSD20:12
rwwthe license is pretty readable. I'd probably take the upstream LICENSE file, add a section at the top with "Modifications (c) 2011 Some Name" followed by what you changed.20:16
PiciOkay, thanks :)20:16
rwwalso, note that a new version came out yesterday, might want to remerge if you haven't already.20:16
Picid'oh20:17
rwwoh yay, new version has a feature I really wanted :)20:19
rwwalthough the way it's implemented modifies log files. meh.20:22
PiciOnly if you're logging stuff thats in MSGLEVEL_CRAP20:25
PiciOh, I guess not.20:26
Picichange line 103 to a different level then.20:27
rwwI suspect that'd remove join notices from logfiles completely.20:28
rwwI'm not sure what I want here. Will ponder it.20:28
rwwalthough it looks like pisg won't be disturbed by using it the way it's set up, so I might just roll with that.20:30
Picihttps://github.com/symkat/Stalker/blob/master/LICENSE is weird.20:31
PiciThe last point seems to contradict the prior two.20:32
PiciOr maybe I'm reading it wrong.20:34
rwwthey apply to different things. one applies to LICENSE file and documentation, other applies to website/advertising/etc.20:45
rwwdon't put "endorsed by Symkat!" in a big banner at the top of webpage ;P20:45
* rww prefers 2-clause BSD :(20:45
* gord prefers santa-clause bsd20:46
* Pici watches Curly_Q 20:46
rwwgord: that license isn't real :(20:46
gordit is if you really truly believe20:47
rwwthe only person I truly believe in is Postman Pat20:48
h00khabeeb it!20:48
IdleOnebencahill: How can we help you?21:09
bencahillIdleOne: oh no problem, I just saw this channel's logs from a google search, and decided to check it out :)21:10
PiciYou may want to check out this channel's topic then.21:10
bencahillPici: Oh, I missed that part, sorry :)21:11
bencahillcya :)21:11
Picibyeas21:11
h00kPeace21:19
h00k:( I am slowpoke21:19
* rww throws a pokeball at h00k 21:29
Amaranthis r00t supposed to be back in #ubuntu-offtopic?21:31
IdleOnehe wasn't banned from there afaik21:32
h00kAmaranth: I think he was only banned from #ubuntu21:32
AmaranthI thought he abuse got him a wider ban21:33
Amaranths/he/his/21:33
h00ko.o21:33
rwwnot as far as I know21:33
IdleOneit got his ban approved by the ircc21:33
* h00k checks email again from ircc21:33
IdleOneand won't be removed anytime soon21:34
rwwor rather, it got his appeal against his #ubuntu ban denied21:34
IdleOneyeah that ^^21:34
rwwalthough i guess that's the same thing21:34
rwweither way, he's been fine in -ot as far as I've noticed21:34
IdleOnewording is important when people read logs21:34
IdleOneI prefer your description21:34
h00kYeah, it appears to be just a denial of the appeal21:34
elkyrww, he's been borderline, especially in gleefully piling on the creepy stuff from the macotroll21:35
elkyand stuff like 'send him hatemails'21:37
* rww pulls up logs, takes a look21:58
rwwmeh. the worst thing I see from him in there is a joke about women, and it was tame by comparison to the rest of the crap in -ot.22:03
rww"gleefully piling on the creepy stuff" doesn't accurately describe it, imho.22:03
* rww shrugs, goes back to work22:04
elkythe bit yesterday where he was joining in the mackenzie/melissa stuff  was pretty damn close to what i said.22:04
rwwThat's what I'm referring to. Had I been around at the time, I'd have told him not to make jokes like that, but that's about it.22:05
elkyare you reading it in context, or just grepped him from the logs?22:05
rwwI'm reading in context22:05
elkyhe was egging the other two on in other ways than that comment.22:05
rwwI don't read it that way22:06
elkylucky you.22:06
rwwpretty much. assuming the least problematic interpretation of ambiguous situations tends to lower my stress level ;P22:09
elkyit's probably easier when it's not your name being used, too :P22:10
rwwindeed22:11
ubottufishscene called the ops in #ubuntu (gjiorkvak)22:25

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