[00:00] <IdleOne> Please part and have a nice night.
[00:00] <TuskRattle> you are moderating by your gut
[00:00] <tonyyarusso> See, we've been at this long enough to know that this sort of extreme defensiveness rather than simple conversation is a sure sign that you are who you are being claimed to be and have done what you have been claimed to do, so this is rather pointless to continue on at this point.
[00:00] <elky> No, we're moderating by the fact that you're stalking mackenzie.
[00:00] <TuskRattle> there is nothing about me that is objectively who you think i am
[00:01] <TuskRattle> i can only tell so much. the best bet is you have an ip log showing this ip as being banned
[00:01] <tonyyarusso> Who, of course, is also a member of this channel, so I think you've done quite enough for one day now.  You can move along now.
[00:01] <TuskRattle> even so why is it i joined offtopic? because no ban was there. the safe assumption is it was lifted. yet we both know i was never abnned
[00:01] <elky> You take us for fools.
[00:01] <Tm_T> TuskRattle: the ban stands, no discussion will make it go away now, so please part
[00:02] <TuskRattle> i have no other choice. you have acted like fools
[00:02] <Tm_T> beat me to it
[00:02] <rww> merci
[00:03] <IdleOne> So when does rww get promoted to full half op?
[00:03]  * tonyyarusso toddles off
[00:03] <tonyyarusso> ...full...half?
[00:03] <IdleOne> yes
[00:03] <tonyyarusso> brain hurty
[00:03] <elky> full nonexistant-status?
[00:03] <rww> You mean, when does my probation end?
[00:04] <IdleOne> I think 5 stalkers and his own fan club makes him illegible
[00:04] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne: oh, do you mean non-probationary channel-specific op?
[00:04] <elky> eligible you mean?
[00:04] <tonyyarusso> lol
[00:04] <IdleOne> wow
[00:04] <IdleOne> yes
[00:04] <tonyyarusso> awesome typo man
[00:04] <IdleOne> hahaha
[00:04] <elky> He /is/ illegible too, yes.
[00:04] <IdleOne> eligible*
[00:04] <tonyyarusso> You mean unintelligible.  We can read his typing just fine.
[00:05] <Tm_T> I'm also unintelligent
[00:06] <IdleOne> you said it :P
[00:06] <Tm_T> I did? how odd...
[00:06] <rww> IdleOne: I started about 8 weeks ago, and probation is 3 months, assuming IRCC doesn't extend mine.
[00:07] <IdleOne> I see no reason to wait on something that is going to happen anyway.
[00:07] <IdleOne> like banning trolls
[00:08] <rww> being on probation has yet to actually affect me negatively (I actually prefer only being able to factoidedit in here), so it isn't a big deal ;P
[00:10] <Tm_T> FYI the tuskie threats to floodspam our channel
[00:10] <Tm_T> channels
[00:11] <Tm_T> I have wakeup in few hours, so I'll try to get some sleep ->
[00:15]  * rww goes back to work
[00:37] <EvilPhoenix> we might need an op in #ubuntu
[00:37] <EvilPhoenix> there seems to be  a string of things going on
[00:38] <EvilPhoenix> yeah we've got several things going on in #ubuntu, perhaps someone could deal with it all?
[00:40] <elky> wooohoo, PMs from omega11
[00:43] <elky> Well, only one it seems. Oh well.
[00:53] <IdleOne> when did IRC become a free country?
[00:54] <elky> Some time soon after the whole entire internet did?
[00:55] <IdleOne> reasonable assumption
[01:15] <elky> sigh, tuskrattle in #u now
[01:15] <elky> aaaand banned.
[01:16] <TuskRattle> a have suffered a ban
[01:16] <TuskRattle> i did
[01:16] <TuskRattle> can i speak to the man of the OPs? is FLannel around?
[01:17] <IdleOne> will remove in ten
[01:17] <elky> why is he asking specifically for flannel?
[01:18] <IdleOne> elky: don't know but I don't feel like seeing it.
[01:50] <elky> IdleOne, see uw chans
[01:51] <IdleOne> looking, want me to remove?
[01:52] <elky> no, just be there for backup, im at work, attention might need to go elsewhere at important moments
[02:06] <maco> elky: so's ya know, the ex who has bans around these parts happens to be a compulsive liar...but you may have figured that out
[02:07] <elky> Oh f'sure. You've seen the past few days of -offtopic happenings I take it?
[02:07] <elky> I know he also puppets people.
[02:09] <maco> no i havent
[02:09] <maco> ive been in the mountains, and there's no 3G there
[02:09] <maco> and ot would be a LOT of backscroll to hunt down.
[02:11] <elky> ah. lets just say, someone keeps joining to obsess over a 'mackenzie'. when confronted by me, showed a photo of me and said it was you
[02:11] <maco> odd
[02:12] <maco> im scrolling back now
[02:12] <maco> im apparently a pork chop. but but but you are what you eat, and i dont eat pork!
[02:13] <elky> maco, he's referring to me with that
[02:13] <maco> oh ok
[02:13] <maco> you dont seem to be bent sideways :P
[02:13] <elky> this started my saturday night
[02:14] <maco> why is he calling you my name?
[02:14] <elky> because i confronted him about saying creepy stalkery things about photos of you
[02:14] <elky> if you didn't read the logs in reverse this might be easier to follow
[02:15] <IdleOne> heh
[02:16] <elky> maco, he's previously been brown_boar and silvercrab
[02:16] <elky> but pretty much just grep for your name in the weekend's -ot logs and start at the top.
[02:17] <maco> im scrolling back...thats how it downloads the logs
[02:17] <maco> i dont know how to use sqlite to show me logs :-/
[02:17] <maco> and i never got that quassel search interface jussi used setup on my server
[02:18] <rww> other option is going to BT. The relevant stuff should be in there.
[02:18] <maco> ooh good idea
[02:19] <rww> 36580 is the start of it, scroll up from there.
[02:20] <rww> (though BT's rather busy because we've also been dealing with r00t4rd3d and Grexo in the last couple of days)
[02:36] <maco> i think i reached it
[02:36] <maco> about where elky asks "what does your mackenzie do?"
[02:37] <IdleOne> reached it?
[02:37] <IdleOne> the limit?
[02:37] <elky> yeah
[02:37] <elky> IdleOne, she found the start, she means
[02:37] <IdleOne> oh
[02:38] <maco> odd nick in uw
[03:02] <hypatia> maco: "odd" :/
[03:02] <hypatia> i expect it's one of weev's buddies :/
[03:03] <elky> yeah. he's not in -ot at the moment though, did he get the boot?
[03:03] <hypatia> nope, hasn't joined there
[03:03] <hypatia> oh
[03:03] <hypatia> weev
[03:03] <hypatia> yeah he's still in ot
[03:04] <rww> he ping timedout earlier
[03:04] <rww> fun times
[03:30] <rww> elky: I was gonna go for a +zq, because I'm nice ;(
[03:30] <elky> remove lets them rejoin, quiet makes them sit there through however long their paste lasts for
[03:31] <rww> hrm, hadn't thought of that
[03:31] <elky> if they've accidentally highlighted an entire 14000 line script...
[04:06] <rww> eep. TuskRattle was in #kubuntu 45 minutes ago and we missed it.
[04:58]  * rww doesn't understand the "< user:#ubuntu> I know this is offtopic but I'm going to say it anyway, [link to some random video]" mentality
[05:01] <rww> (also, wow, zero webchat users in #ubuntu right now)
[05:04] <elky> that seems unlikely
[05:04] <elky> but. go through and remove all webchat exempts, quickquickquick
[05:05] <rww> I triple checked. And then opped up and checked whether any of the exempted people were in there. There actually are none.
[05:05] <rww> (and yes, I cleared out the exempts. that's why I was looking ;)
[05:05] <elky> er... -proxy-users scrollback seems... icky
[05:06] <elky> i think the floodbots are a bit borked.
[05:06] <rww> how so?
[05:06] <elky> shouldnt it be asking 'are you human' questions there?
[05:07] <rww> no, that's -unregged
[05:07] <elky> oh right.
[05:07] <elky> hmm
[05:07] <rww> -proxy-users isn't actually used any more because we switched the webchat banforward to a +q, but they still output messages anyway.
[05:08] <rww> it's useful for diagnostic purposes if a user has issues with it, I guess.
[05:09] <rww> and -unregged looks odd because the FloodBots apparently think that they set +r after an exploit, and they didn't. dunno what's up with that.
[11:32]  * elky glares at calico person
[12:17] <elky> forget moon phase, are there planets colliding somewhere?
[12:25] <elky> why do i get the feeling we're being dared to ban a disabled guy?
[12:34] <bazhang> its the new star sign
[13:12] <Pici> pfft.  I don't believe  in astrology.  Anyway, I'm still a Libra. I'm not changing.
[13:12] <bazhang> Pici, hehe same
[13:22] <jrib> Pici: are you refusing to change or your sign just didn't change?
[13:28] <Pici> jrib: the former
[13:34]  * Pici watches ogo0p 
[13:35] <bazhang> he's been trolling ##windows
[13:35] <Pici> great.
[14:40]  * jussi has no idea what he is... 
[14:42] <popey> "a stream of bits"
[14:42] <jussi> I was born on the same day that MLK was shot.
[14:42] <jussi> popey: haha
[14:42] <jussi> does anyone else have it thatsometimes chrome/chromium just wont start?
[14:43] <jussi> Although, not the same year he was shot - Im not _That_ old
[14:43] <Tm_T> tsimpson: thanks for the mail in the ML
[14:43] <popey> lies
[14:43] <Tm_T> also thanks for the rest of IRCC on taking firm position on this matter
[14:43] <IdleOne> jussi: every now and then, I then kill the pid, seems sometimes chromium doesn't shut down well
[14:44] <jussi> Tm_T: you are welcome.
[14:44] <IdleOne> I second Tm_T's thanks.
[14:53] <h00k> @login
[14:53] <h00k> @btlogin
[15:17] <popey> oh, I spoke to ikonia btw, he's taking a break, and all is well.
[15:18] <h00k> jussi: I do have that with Chrome/Chromium, I found it an issue with geolocation, I think
[15:20] <topyli> you need to move to a better location
[15:20] <IdleOne> so the problem is not the app
[15:20] <IdleOne> good to know
[15:21] <topyli> user error, as always
[15:25] <Tm_T> ...Chromium thinks I live in the south pole
[15:27] <IdleOne> common mistake, it is telling you where to move.
[15:35] <athiest_monk> viva la taipei
[15:36] <athiest_monk> ahahhahah
[15:36] <IdleOne> drive by stupid...
[15:36] <Pici> yep
[15:36] <bazhang> at least we know what channel to check for his ever-evolving nick changes
[15:37] <Pici> stalker.pl is handy
[15:37] <IdleOne> but it's nice he keeps us up to date on his ip's
[15:39] <IdleOne> someone port stalker.pl to xchat
[15:39] <IdleOne> please :(
[15:39] <Pici> It probably wouldn't be too hard.
[15:39] <h00k> I need stalker.pl
[15:39] <IdleOne> I know I should probably use it as a learning project
[15:40] <Pici> I modified it so that it uses mysql instead of sqlite. Now it doesn't block irssi when joining large channels or during netsplits.
[15:40] <Tm_T> Pici: uh, you might like to share that
[15:41] <Pici> Tm_T: I probably should clean it up so its not hardcoded.
[15:41] <bazhang> who is garzooka
[15:41]  * Pici doesn't know
[15:41] <Tm_T> -uk issue
[15:41] <bazhang> ah okay phineas/ferb/bolt/catdog/nerml /etc
[15:41] <popey> waffle / phineas / fer... yes
[15:41] <Pici> Its a bit of a hack at the moment.
[15:41] <h00k> oh, turns out I don't have...sqlite stuffs
[15:42] <IdleOne> h00k: wait for the picistalk.pl to be released
[15:42]  * h00k waits
[15:42] <IdleOne> well you could use it and then switch I guess
[15:43] <Pici> Then I'd need to write something to export from sqlite into $dbms
[15:43] <IdleOne> while your at it write a port to xchat also
[15:43] <IdleOne> :)
[15:44] <bazhang> or just switch to irssi
[15:45] <IdleOne> no
[15:45] <Pici> :(
[15:45] <IdleOne> I don't like...sorry
[15:46] <h00k> Callico10 Is an interesting person.
[16:29] <bazhang>  athiest_monk (~loc0@unaffiliated/athiest-monk/x-1817941   new cloak
[16:43]  * Pici wonders if a multi-user stalker datbase would be fast enough.
[16:48]  * mneptok just wonders what an "athiest" is
[16:49] <popey> mneptok: Someone who doesn't believe in dictionaries?
[16:56] <rww> tell me about it. took a few tries before I could /whois him because of that :(
[18:43]  * rww ponders setting up an XDCC bot on #ubuntu that serves Ubuntu ISOs renamed to popular movie titles
[19:10] <marienz> we've considered doing something similar on moznet #firefox, iirc
[19:10] <mneptok> we could have porn titles linked to Gentoo .iso images. so people have something to do other than look at porn.
[19:11] <marienz> heh
[19:42]  * Pici blames Tm_T for making him spend time fighting with perl
[19:50] <Pici> Well, new stalker.pl sort of works, except if you forget to unset a setting when you change database drivers, then it dies and makes you change your settings in your ~/.irssi/config manually.
[19:56] <Pici> If any license guru could help me figure out how to release my changes and conform to the BSD license that would be great too.
[20:01] <Gulfstream> Can I have my Swagbucks referral link in the leave message?
[20:03] <IdleOne> Gulfstream: provided it is not offensive and that you don't join/part flood the channel
[20:03] <IdleOne> I don't see why not
[20:05] <Gulfstream> Okay.
[20:10] <rww> Pici: "BSD license" is ambiguous :(
[20:11]  * rww can't find in source code which one it means, either
[20:11] <Jordan_U> Pici: As far as I know the only requirement is that you include the (simplified) BSD licence when you distribute the code (in a comment for instance).
[20:11] <rww> oh, there's a LICENSE file. yay.
[20:12] <rww> okay, 3-clause BSD
[20:16] <rww> the license is pretty readable. I'd probably take the upstream LICENSE file, add a section at the top with "Modifications (c) 2011 Some Name" followed by what you changed.
[20:16] <Pici> Okay, thanks :)
[20:16] <rww> also, note that a new version came out yesterday, might want to remerge if you haven't already.
[20:17] <Pici> d'oh
[20:19] <rww> oh yay, new version has a feature I really wanted :)
[20:22] <rww> although the way it's implemented modifies log files. meh.
[20:25] <Pici> Only if you're logging stuff thats in MSGLEVEL_CRAP
[20:26] <Pici> Oh, I guess not.
[20:27] <Pici> change line 103 to a different level then.
[20:28] <rww> I suspect that'd remove join notices from logfiles completely.
[20:28] <rww> I'm not sure what I want here. Will ponder it.
[20:30] <rww> although it looks like pisg won't be disturbed by using it the way it's set up, so I might just roll with that.
[20:31] <Pici> https://github.com/symkat/Stalker/blob/master/LICENSE is weird.
[20:32] <Pici> The last point seems to contradict the prior two.
[20:34] <Pici> Or maybe I'm reading it wrong.
[20:45] <rww> they apply to different things. one applies to LICENSE file and documentation, other applies to website/advertising/etc.
[20:45] <rww> don't put "endorsed by Symkat!" in a big banner at the top of webpage ;P
[20:45]  * rww prefers 2-clause BSD :(
[20:46]  * gord prefers santa-clause bsd
[20:46]  * Pici watches Curly_Q 
[20:46] <rww> gord: that license isn't real :(
[20:47] <gord> it is if you really truly believe
[20:48] <rww> the only person I truly believe in is Postman Pat
[20:48] <h00k> habeeb it!
[21:09] <IdleOne> bencahill: How can we help you?
[21:10] <bencahill> IdleOne: oh no problem, I just saw this channel's logs from a google search, and decided to check it out :)
[21:10] <Pici> You may want to check out this channel's topic then.
[21:11] <bencahill> Pici: Oh, I missed that part, sorry :)
[21:11] <bencahill> cya :)
[21:11] <Pici> byeas
[21:19] <h00k> Peace
[21:19] <h00k> :( I am slowpoke
[21:29]  * rww throws a pokeball at h00k 
[21:31] <Amaranth> is r00t supposed to be back in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[21:32] <IdleOne> he wasn't banned from there afaik
[21:32] <h00k> Amaranth: I think he was only banned from #ubuntu
[21:33] <Amaranth> I thought he abuse got him a wider ban
[21:33] <Amaranth> s/he/his/
[21:33] <h00k> o.o
[21:33] <rww> not as far as I know
[21:33] <IdleOne> it got his ban approved by the ircc
[21:33]  * h00k checks email again from ircc
[21:34] <IdleOne> and won't be removed anytime soon
[21:34] <rww> or rather, it got his appeal against his #ubuntu ban denied
[21:34] <IdleOne> yeah that ^^
[21:34] <rww> although i guess that's the same thing
[21:34] <rww> either way, he's been fine in -ot as far as I've noticed
[21:34] <IdleOne> wording is important when people read logs
[21:34] <IdleOne> I prefer your description
[21:34] <h00k> Yeah, it appears to be just a denial of the appeal
[21:35] <elky> rww, he's been borderline, especially in gleefully piling on the creepy stuff from the macotroll
[21:37] <elky> and stuff like 'send him hatemails'
[21:58]  * rww pulls up logs, takes a look
[22:03] <rww> meh. the worst thing I see from him in there is a joke about women, and it was tame by comparison to the rest of the crap in -ot.
[22:03] <rww> "gleefully piling on the creepy stuff" doesn't accurately describe it, imho.
[22:04]  * rww shrugs, goes back to work
[22:04] <elky> the bit yesterday where he was joining in the mackenzie/melissa stuff  was pretty damn close to what i said.
[22:05] <rww> That's what I'm referring to. Had I been around at the time, I'd have told him not to make jokes like that, but that's about it.
[22:05] <elky> are you reading it in context, or just grepped him from the logs?
[22:05] <rww> I'm reading in context
[22:05] <elky> he was egging the other two on in other ways than that comment.
[22:06] <rww> I don't read it that way
[22:06] <elky> lucky you.
[22:09] <rww> pretty much. assuming the least problematic interpretation of ambiguous situations tends to lower my stress level ;P
[22:10] <elky> it's probably easier when it's not your name being used, too :P
[22:11] <rww> indeed