[00:08] <mrroth> hmm seem ebox is als outdated
[00:08] <mrroth> !ebox
[00:09] <mrroth> oh it called Zentyal
[00:15] <fuho> Hi, I am probably having permision issues because I get forbiddden when I try to access my website. The directory was created by "username" but apache runs as "www-data" what would be the correct setup?
[00:16] <fuho> I mean if Apache is "www-data":"www-data", should every user with access to FTP from which the websites are served be in "www-data" group?
[00:20] <mrroth> hi
[00:20] <mrroth> is thier a way I can proxy apache
[00:20] <mrroth> say if I make a front end loading page
[00:20] <mrroth> that I want to have login page, and then it aloows me to launch links from my internal network
[00:20] <mrroth> like websites that are internal  is tha thow it done
[00:20] <mrroth> with out doing vpn
[00:23] <twb> They renamed it for some silly reason
[00:23] <mrroth> oh
[00:23] <twb> (ebox)
[00:24] <mrroth> is it any good
[00:24] <mrroth> as a soultion to be sold to small bussiness
[00:24] <twb> No.
[00:24] <twb> No web UI is any good
[00:24] <mrroth> or would I have to be troubleshooting it all da
[00:24] <mrroth> best just with ubuntu server
[00:24] <twb> Especially web UIs intende to turn idiots into sysadmins without the intermediary "learning" phase.
[00:24] <mrroth> if all they need is file sharing, or a nas or
[00:25] <mrroth> so best it just a server with ubuntu server or widnows stnadarfd server
[00:25] <fuho> I tried webmin, it worked.
[00:26] <twb> It "works" provided you are happy to have badly-written, insecure perl scripts writing config files that no longer work the way they were coded to expect.
[00:26] <twb> There's a reason Debian and Ubuntu don't ship webmin.
[00:26] <mrroth> oh thier is
[00:26] <fuho> But I agree with TWB, thats why I formatted my VPS and started from scratch configuring everything myself, its btter because you actually know what is happening, at least mos of the time :)
[00:27] <mrroth> oh yea
[00:27] <mrroth> I had freenas before
[00:27] <twb> If you need to manage a whole lot of hosts, I would be looking at something like puppet
[00:27] <mrroth> but I gave i tup, it did not allow me to do stuff on my own as much or it would break
[00:27] <twb> I can't comment on FreeNAS.
[00:27] <mrroth> freenas is good
[00:28] <mrroth> but unbuntu out of the box offer freenas stuff if you like the cli
[00:28] <mrroth> and has updated packages
[00:31] <fuho> Quick question: What group should the FTP users be in so they can server websites? I am getting Forbiden in the newly created folder.
[00:31] <twb> fuho: that depends what FTP daemon you're using.
[00:32] <fuho> vsftpd
[00:32] <twb> fuho: I would STRONGLY recommend you use SFTP rather than FTP (for uploads).
[00:32] <twb> fuho: vsftpd defaults to only allowing anonymous read-only access.
[00:32] <fuho> twb: i reconfigured it.
[00:32] <twb> IIRC there's an option in there to say what group to allow
[00:33] <fuho> twb: I can connect anc create directories, files and anything.
[00:33] <twb> fuho: oh, OK,  maybe it's a permission/ownership issue on the new folder?
[00:33] <twb> fuho: or maybe that dir is outside the chroot in which vsftpd is running?
[00:34] <twb> fuho: have a look at ls -lids /proc/`pidof vsftpd`/root
[00:34] <fuho> twb: I am using SFTP for anything important, I know about the plain password, so for root I never use FTP, but for generic web user I do, because Notepadd++ doesn't support SFTP
[00:34] <twb> fuho: bleh
[00:34] <twb> fuho: well, I'm not gonna cmoe around and break your legs to stop you
[00:35] <twb> But see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie for other reasons than security.
[00:35] <fuho> twb: :) Thanks. I really try to be secure, so as I said root password was never sent in plaintext
[00:36] <twb> fuho: sure, but root isn't the only attack vector.  For example, someone could still upload a .php script to /var/www as your FTP upload user, and then run it to turn your box into a mail relay.
[00:36] <fuho> twb: I do agree, unfortunately it is still the industry standard. I was thinking about using Samba for that, do you have any experience?
[00:37] <twb> fuho: I wouldn't expose samba on an untrusted network
[00:37] <fuho> So what is left then? I can run everything through VPN, that would solve a bunch of problems
[00:38] <twb> SFTP or a VPN
[00:38] <twb> AFAIK most FTP clients for WIndows will talk SFTP
[00:38] <twb> Pity Notepad++ doesn't; you probably can't force your devs to use a better editor :-(
[00:38] <mrroth> oh
[00:38] <twb> In theory you could use something exotic like AFS instead, but IMO that's not worth the hassle
[00:39] <fuho> twb: I DO use SFTP for actual FTP work, moving files, editing configs and so on, but when coding I use Notepad++ to edit files on server straight away and for that I have to use FTP unfortunately
[00:39] <mrroth> what is best setup for a ubuntu home server made from scratch twb
[00:39] <fuho> twb: Better editor? Show me one :D
[00:39] <twb> fuho: emacs, or I suppose eclipse
[00:40] <twb> I *know* Emacs supports transparent remote writes over SFTP.
[00:40] <twb> mrroth: that's too vague for me to answer.
[00:40] <twb> mrroth: do you have a specific goal?  Like, say, "I need to share files with Windows and proxy web browsing"
[00:40] <mrroth> like as a home fileserver + media
[00:41] <mrroth> somewhere I can remote to and grab my pictures, home moives, and documents
[00:41] <mrroth> at hoome and on the road
[00:41] <twb> mrroth: for unix to unix, NFS is cheap, fast and easy.  If you need to talk to Windows, you need Samba.
[00:41] <mrroth> bassically I want a webfront end, with login
[00:41] <twb> mrroth: for remote access, you should use SFTP -- on the client side you can use sshfs to make it easier.
[00:41] <mrroth> so I can logon to a webpage on my ubuntu server, that then will allow me to use other websites running locally on my ubuntu box
[00:41] <twb> mrroth: I don't support or approve of web UIs; you can always log in remotely using SSH.
[00:42] <mrroth> ahh k
[00:42] <mrroth> but is it possible to have a webfrontend that will proxy the remote pc to use internal stuff
[00:42] <twb> mrroth: to get to web UIs on the *internal* network, you can use SOCKS proxying or port forwarding via your SSH login
[00:42] <twb> mrroth: or you could set up a simple VPN tunnel
[00:42] <mrroth> ahh or hamachi
[00:42] <fuho> mroth: You need VPN probably, if you are trying to look like you are accessing the websites from your server (or home desktop)
[00:43] <mrroth> Yea I have hamachi  on the laotp that allows me to also connect a linux box with hamachi and use ssh sshfs
[00:43] <twb> mrroth: e.g. "ssh -L 8080:www:80 login.example.net" will connect www:80 within example.net  to localhost:8080
[00:43] <mrroth> fuho like when I am at work, I want to access my home network to see stuff I am wrking on home
[00:43] <mrroth> thanks
[00:44] <twb> mrroth: hamachi appears to be a "shareware VPN".  I would suggest instead either OpenVPN (easy) or l2tp/ipsec (future-proof).
[00:44] <mrroth> it free up to 16 clients
[00:44] <mrroth> for home use
[00:44] <mrroth> oh I see
[00:44] <mrroth> I have pfsense firewall, I could probally do l2tp/ipsec on my laptop to it
[00:44] <twb> mrroth: it might be gratis, but because it's (presumably) closed-source, it's less likely to be scrutinized by security analysts.
[00:45] <twb> ipsec is a required part of IPv6, so I think it's a good thing to learn it
[00:45] <fuho> twb: I think he will have enough problems setting up OpenVPN
[00:45] <mrroth> Sweet
[00:46] <mrroth> twb oh I see
[00:46] <mrroth> last and final question for use use I want to replace my clam shell dell p4, with something smaller and probally have lower power what would u suggest :)
[00:46] <fuho> mrroth: OpenVPN was do-able, took me a while to get it working though, but I am unix noob
[00:47] <twb> I set up a point-to-point OpenVPN connection using pre-shared keys in about thirty seconds
[00:47] <twb> If you need a hub-and-spoke OpenVPN setup (i.e. >1 client), then you need to set up SSL, which is a bit harder.
[00:48] <fuho> It took me 30 minutes just to generate the key ;ú
[00:49] <fuho> twb: Not to figure out how to generate it but actually computing time.
[00:49] <twb> fuho: do it on a faster box, then
[00:49] <twb> a Pentium III should be fast enough
[00:49] <fuho> 4096 RSA?
[00:52] <twb> http://paste.debian.net/104828/
[00:52] <twb> Maybe you didn't have enough entropy on the host?
[00:52] <twb> (I couldn't find a PIII quickly, sorry.)
[00:53] <fuho> twb: :D Wow, now I am either an idiot or didn't remmeber the encryption correctly, let me check, now I have to be sure.
[00:54] <twb> fuho: unless it was, say, a 200MHz MIPS WRT, you probably just didn't have enough entropy
[00:54] <twb> Mashing the keyboard is enough to fix that
[00:55] <fuho> twb: Really? I had no clue, I thought it always takes lot longer. But mine "Image" was a lot bigger
[01:00] <fuho> twb: Yeah, when I did "buil-key-server" using dh4096.pem I could have just "mashed" keyboard and save myself half an hour? The server is quad core with 2GB of RAM
[01:04] <Alan> I'm having a pretty annoying problem at the moment, could somebody maybe help me track down what's causing it?
[01:05] <Alan> The problem: occasionally, my server likes to completely freeze for between 10 and 30 seconds
[01:05] <Alan> it'll do it maybe once every few hours
[01:05] <Nafallo> Alan: what disk drives do you use?
[01:05] <Alan> by "freeze" i mean that pretty much all IO stops
[01:05] <Alan> and anything depending on IO
[01:06] <Alan> Nafallo: RAID5 on top of Samsung 1TB drives (F1, F2 and F3 editions)
[01:06] <Alan> I can do a few things
[01:06] <Nafallo> Alan: dang. I suspected WDC Green or so. they have that problem.
[01:06] <Alan> in fact... hmmm, maybe it's my RAID stalling somehow
[01:07] <Alan> I just realised
[01:07] <Alan> everything that still works would be on the OS disk
[01:07] <Alan> everything that stalls is waiting forever for something on the RAID
[01:07] <Alan> for example, i can login via SSH, but can't spawn a shell because it's trying to read ~/.bashrc
[01:08] <Alan> I can run "top" ,but not "htop" (because it has a settings file)
[01:08] <Alan> and my minecraft server completely stops too
[01:08] <Alan> How could I go about debugging the problem?
[01:09] <Alan> It's a reasonably recent problem, but the only thing that's really changed is a different minecraft server version
[01:09] <Alan> A single application shouldn't be able to stall IO on an entire filesystem, should it?
[01:10] <Alan> I've checked the usual places (dmesg, /var/log) and nothing happens that corresponds to the stalls
[01:19] <twb> fuho: yes
[01:19] <fuho> twb: Well, thanks then I will know next time.
[01:24] <twb> The BEST one of those I had was firefox
[01:24] <twb> It generates a key at boot if there isn't one in /home, using /dev/random
[01:24] <VoiDeT> Hi there, basic question. I've added a user to a group, www-data, but the user can't write files to a directory owned by www-data:www-data with 755 as permissions. What am i missing.
[01:24] <twb> So for my netboot live desktop system, EVERY TIME you booted, firefox would appear to "just hang" unless you mashed the keyboard like a spastic
[01:25] <mrroth> oh
[01:25] <mrroth> thanks
[01:25] <fuho> twb: :D
[01:25] <twb> mrroth: 755 is user rwx, GROUP rw.
[01:25] <twb> Sorry, GROUP rx
[01:25] <twb> And that was at VoiDeT
[01:26] <mrroth> oh I se
[01:26] <VoiDeT> right, so 775 is more like it
[01:26] <twb> VoiDeT: yes.
[01:27] <twb> VoiDeT: also, if "groups" doesn't report www-data, that user will need to log out and back in
[01:27] <twb> VoiDeT: (groupship is only applied at login time.)
[01:27] <VoiDeT> yeh it does :) thanks twb, seeing as though only the users www-data and myself are in that group, is that fairly safe to us
[01:27] <twb> VoiDeT: I suppose so
[01:34] <fuho> Gotta go, bye
[01:50] <joebob777as7> I can't mount usb devices with a user account getting errors. Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:mount: only root can mount /dev/sde1 on /media/backup_1
[01:51] <twb> That's not an error, that's security.
[01:52] <joebob777as7> the user has fuse permissions
[01:53] <twb> fuse is not needed to mount USB mass storage devices
[01:53] <twb> Privilege escalation is.
[01:53] <joebob777as7> twb, and isn't that supposed to be set up by default? 10.04 64 bit server edition with desktop installed
[01:53] <twb> If you're using a GUI, I think there's some kind of GNOME udisks/hal/pmount shit to give users such permissions, but that's out-of-scope for this channel.
[01:54] <areay> hi all.. in the ubuntu server guide, under UEC it states "by default, Eucalyptus will only run 1 VM per CPU core on a Node." --how do i change this "default"?
[01:55] <joebob777as7> twb, i don't need the gui. I just need the usb drives to automount when plugged in but not stop boot if not plugged in
[01:55] <twb> joebob777as7: automount as root?
[01:55] <areay> in essence i'm wondering if it's possible to run multiple VMs on a single core using UEC
[01:56] <twb> areay: I suppose so, but I'm not familiar with UEC.
[01:56] <joebob777as7> twb, yes or user i don't care
[01:56] <twb> joebob777as7: write a udev rule that matches on the device's serial number, and have it run the mount command
[01:57] <joebob777as7> twb, no simpler way?
[01:57] <twb> That's pretty bloody simple
[01:57] <areay> twb, the language used would suggest it.. i've spent some time googling to see if this is possible but i haven't had much luck :/
[01:57] <twb> Er, note that it'll automount at all times -- not only at boot.  You might not want that
[01:57] <joebob777as7> ok i'll look into it. never used custom udev rules
[01:59] <pmatulis> joebob777as7: maybe the 'usbmount' package?
[02:00] <joebob777as7> pmatulis, ok i'll look into it thx
[02:00] <pmatulis> !info usbmount
[02:01] <twb> pmatulis: that appears to work via udev rules, so yeah
[02:01] <twb> It mounts them on /media/usbN instead of using the device name, but whatever
[02:04] <clusty> hey
[02:04] <clusty> anybody using transmission-daemon ?
[02:04] <clusty> after the last update it stopped working properly
[02:05] <airtonix> no i'm using deluge-daemon
[02:08] <clusty> while it might sound funny, i am boycotting deluge cause the devs are assholes :D
[02:09] <twb> I don't use bt at all, because they only have popular stuff
[02:10] <clusty> twb: you're one of those people that think mainstream is zoo beneath them?
[02:11] <twb> I don't *think* so.
[02:14] <airtonix> wut?
[02:20] <patdk-lap> whoa, launchpad is fast tonight
[02:54] <airtonix> whats with the rt_ioctl_giwscan logspam ?
[03:18] <a7ndrew> How do I know if apport is running properly? ps aux | grep apport returns nothing, but service apport restart reports 'apport start/running'
[03:20] <a7ndrew> apport-cli tells me there are no pending crash reports, and /var/crash/ exists and is empty
[03:59] <twb> a7ndrew: it's probably a task
[03:59] <twb> Ah, it's a pre-start and post-stop script.
[04:03] <a7ndrew> does that mean i need to crash something to confirm apport works?
[04:05] <twb> I don't know, man
[04:05] <twb> I report bugs to Debian because I hate launchpad
[06:01] <Flam> too many ubuntu channels i got confused :/
[06:01] <Flam> Hi I'm trying to SSH to my server without a password (for rsync).  I ran "sudo ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096 -f /home/Flam/cron/a-rsync-key" on Ubuntu 10.04 and got the .pub file and the private key, then I did "sudo cat a-rsync-key.pub >>.ssh/authorized_keys" on the remote host.  Now I'm stumped :P  Some guidance as to what to do next would be appreciated.  Also, where do I put the private
[06:01] <Flam> key?
[06:02] <gobbe> why did you specify file?
[06:02] <gobbe> if you run it without -f it will put keys to proper place, and then you just upload your public key to server
[06:03] <Flam> oh
[06:07] <openstandards> hi all
[06:07] <ignarps> hi
[06:08] <openstandards> currently experiencing a seg fault when using both apt-get and aptitude
[06:08] <gobbe> is your hdd ok?
[06:08] <openstandards> Segmentation faultsts... 0% its not even trying to load the list
[06:08] <openstandards> should be its a remote server
[06:09] <gobbe> that sound like my ssd :-D
[06:09] <gobbe> it just started to seg fault and then *boom* :-D
[06:10] <gobbe> is everything else working?
[06:11] <Flam> Can I backup mysql by just copying /var/lib/mysql or must I use mysqldump?
[06:12] <gobbe> mysqldump, it wont be consistent without it
[06:16] <Flam> So if I want to backup my site and its DB with rsync, I should run the mysqldump command on cron locally, and then fetch it with rsync correct?
[06:16] <gobbe> yep
[06:16] <Flam> thanks
[06:20] <GatorAlli> Hello, my internet disconnected. :P Where is the best location to store .jar files for use on Ubuntu server?
[06:21] <jmarsden> GatorAlli: Consider /usr/share/java/ but I am not sure if that is the officially correct answer.  It's just where a lot of them are.
[06:21] <gobbe> you can store them where you want, there's no "correct" place for them
[06:22] <GatorAlli> kk
[06:22] <gobbe> but /usr/share/java is ok
[06:22] <GatorAlli> I'm sorta new to web servers. im running a lamp server and would like no one on the other side of the server to acess tham
[06:23] <gobbe> well, then anything that is not shared with apache is safe
[06:23] <gobbe> like /usr/share/java
[06:39] <openstandards> no strace either
[06:39] <openstandards> fuck, any suggestions?
[06:50] <airtonix> openstandards, how do you know the hdd is ok?
[06:50] <airtonix> or are you just assuming ?
[06:51] <Flam> Shit after installing rsync I discover rsnapshot.  sigh
[06:52] <airtonix> Flam, did you fix your keybase ssh login ?
[06:52] <openstandards> airtonix, i'm assuming the hdd is ok
[06:52] <Flam> yeah, doing it your way helped.  also I was prepending sudo to it, which made root keys :/
[06:52] <openstandards> airtonix, seems linux can be solved the windows way
[06:52] <Flam> s/your/gobbe
[06:53] <openstandards> A simple restart has cured it for now
[06:53] <airtonix> Flam, for next time you can just generate your key and use ssh-add user@remotehost
[06:54] <Flam> Oh sweet.  I'll keep that in mind
[06:54] <airtonix> Flam, but for specifics, one of the things you might not find out is that authorized_keys gets ignore if its not chmod 600
[06:54] <airtonix> but i think ssh-add takes care of that for you
[06:56] <Flam> Mine is at 700 and works
[06:57] <Flam> just set it to 600 however.
[06:57] <Flam> just for neatness :P
[06:58] <airtonix> might want to double check it just in case
[06:59] <Flam> I did, 600/700 both work, so I'm keeping 600
[07:06] <airtonix> i think the main thing is that it chokes if group or other can read it
[07:06] <airtonix> which is perfectly understandable
[07:07] <twb> 600 is for files; 700 is for dirs
[07:07] <Flam> I see @ both
[08:04] <areay> hi all.. i'm using UEC -- is it possible to have more than one VM per cpu core? i understand this is the default but is there a way to override it?
[08:05] <twb> areay: does #ubuntu-cloud still exist?
[08:06] <areay> it does ;) thanks twb :D
[10:10] <jfb_h20> if I want to copy my previous printer settings across to a new machine (identical 10.10 release) what files to copy?
[10:24] <twb> jfb_h20: /etc/cups, I imagine
[10:25] <twb> Stupid drive-bys...
[10:27] <Kiall> twb, lol
[13:11] <clusty> hey
[13:11] <clusty> are universe packages maintained by ubuntu?
[13:12] <pmatulis> clusty: what do you mean by 'ubuntu'?
[13:12] <clusty> as in can i file a bug for a universe package?
[13:12] <pmatulis> clusty: of course
[13:12] <clusty> thanks
[13:12] <pmatulis> clusty: the vast majority of packages are in universe
[13:13] <clusty> ohh multiverse is the "anything goes" one :D?
[13:13] <pmatulis> clusty: not free, yeah
[13:13] <pmatulis> clusty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[15:13] <zul> Daviey: ping i was thinking can you do your ftbfs from test for the server seed again?
[15:21] <Daviey> zul, I was thinking about doing it at the start of A3.
[15:22] <zul> Daviey: coolio..
[15:27] <Join-D2> Hi everyone, i am trying to access an AFP volume on my ubuntu-server machine (netatalk), but when connecting tru Mac OS it always gives me an "wrong username/password" error
[15:28] <Join-D2> i think it has something to do with the password encryption.. any ideas?
[15:40] <cemc> hi. I have an ubuntu 8.04 with ebox on it. how could I get a list of email users/addresses without knowing anything about ebox? I just need a save/backup, it will all be reinstalled
[16:33] <internalkernel> Can somebody clear something up for me? I'm confused on this one point:
[16:34] <internalkernel> If Im running postfix + dovecot and trying to use dovecot's sasl auth - I shouldn't need to configure saslauthd? Is this correct? Or does dovecot depend on the saslauthd mechanism?
[16:35] <internalkernel> I picked up the impression that saslauthd is part of the cyrus auth, and therefore would be redundant if used with dovecot
[16:40] <vulgarcito> hello every1!
[16:41] <vulgarcito> i have a server with two hard disks, first one have openSUSE 11.1 and in second and new (1TB) i has installed Ubuntu 10.10....    ....first it's was booting well but after instalation of Ubuntu just boot by GRUB; How i can't fix it for boot from first HD (OpenSUSE) again?
[16:44] <pmatulis> vulgarcito: what boots now?  just ubuntu?
[16:51] <Error404NotFound> the other sysadmin screwed up sudo, there is no root password set, atleast not that i know, and root ssh is blocked, any way to fix it? Its a cloud server
[16:53] <gobbe> Error404NotFound: some cloud servers have ability to boot in single user thru terminal
[16:53] <gobbe> if you don't know root password, and sudo is fucked up, you have to boot in single user
[16:58] <b0gatyr_> greetings!
[18:02] <anternat> hi
[18:02] <anternat>  is phpmyadmin included in jaunty?
[18:03] <gobbe> apt-cache search phpmyadmin?-)
[18:03] <anternat> yields no results ...
[18:03] <anternat> thanx for the answer
[18:04] <gobbe> packages.ubuntu.com has also all packages related to release
[18:05] <anternat> thanx gobbe, was trying on a non BW consuming solution but seemingly repo is the only choice ...
[18:06] <anternat> that page has an error
[18:07] <RoyK> anternat: iirc it is, but as always, I'd recommend learning to use the command line utilities - it's basically the same as using some fancy GUI, exept you learn more
[18:08] <anternat> true Roy, havent setup gui for that reason, totally agree
[18:09] <anternat> altho all is a mit much new to me :)
[18:09] <EvilPhoenix> !jaunty
[18:09] <EvilPhoenix> anternat:  jaunty isnt supported anymore
[18:09] <EvilPhoenix> you should upgrade
[18:10] <anternat> may be next month as dsl quota is almost over
[18:13] <EvilPhoenix> uh...
[18:13] <EvilPhoenix> what?
[18:15] <anternat> sad but true :)
[18:20] <zul> Daviey: you still around?
[19:07] <pmatulis> is it possible to store encryption keys (dm-crypt) on the network and somehow access them when booting machines with encrypted drives?
[19:12] <Thirtysixway> Does anyone know how to change the package  mirror used during the server install
[19:12] <RoyK> Thirtysixway: _during_ install?
[19:12] <Thirtysixway> yes
[19:13] <RoyK> I doubt that's possible
[19:13] <RoyK> apt will read the file on startup and continue until it's done or interrupted
[19:14] <Thirtysixway> well i know it's possible to do it with a preseed file
[19:14] <Thirtysixway> i was just wondering because i'm at a university that hosts an ubuntu mirror for packages, and it would be a lot faster to use that instead of the default apt sources
[19:20] <Thirtysixway> oh i found it. hitting F6 and choosing expert mode should be able to let me pick the mirror to download packages from
[19:29] <b0gatyr> so how is this possible, trying to mount an external HD..plug it in a centos box fdisk -l shows it, plug it in an ubuntu server fdisk -l does not show the HD, what am i missing ?
[19:35] <b0gatyr> nm
[19:37] <pmatulis> b0gatyr: and the answer is...?
[19:40] <b0gatyr> pmatulis: did not realize i had virtual box running on my second workspace which was mounting the drive for me automatically onto a windows xp machine =\
[19:43] <pmatulis> b0gatyr: so it didn't "exist" at that time.  ok
[19:43] <b0gatyr> yup
[20:44] <ejat> hi .. i doesnt get virtual ip after starting up heartbeat ..
[20:44] <ejat> anyone can help me trouble shoot ..
[20:49] <aleronl16x> does anybody here know what would be a good server for me
[20:50] <guntbert> aleronl16x: good in what way?
[20:55] <aleronl16x> for a social networking site im kinda a newbie
[20:57] <Maleko> meh. does anyone here ever used ksplice on ubuntu server?
[20:58] <guntbert> aleronl16x: not sure that I understand what you want - maybe you look at turnkey linux, there are some fine appliances there
[20:58] <Maleko> im wondering whether or not i should install both ksplice and uptrack packages or just enough with ksplice package
[20:59] <aleronl16x> turkey linux is an os?
[21:05] <guntbert> aleronl16x: those are ready made linux servers  - download, configure,run
[21:06] <aleronl16x> im not talking about software im talking about hardware
[21:06] <aleronl16x> what is a good server for ubuntu
[21:06] <Pici> 'turnkey' not 'turkey'
[21:09] <guntbert> aleronl16x: then this channel is wrong for you - this is for ubuntu support
[21:10] <aleronl16x> wow the other ubuntu channel sent me heah
[21:11] <guntbert> aleronl16x: it was actually I - but I said you might ask a specific question :-)
[21:12] <guntbert> !hardware | aleronl16x
[22:28] <gjiorkvak> http://tinyurl.com/5sagy6u
[22:36] <genii-around> Stupid ad-bot
[23:20] <e_t_> Where could I find a Samba init script from before Ubuntu's switch to Upstart?
[23:21] <twb> e_t_: 8.04?  Or Debian, of course.
[23:26] <e_t_> Thank you. I wasn't sure how far back the change went.
[23:42] <e_t_> I'm trying to set up two Samba daemons on a machine. This guide (http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Multiple_Server_Instances) is, by its own admission, Red Hat-centric. Is there a way I could accomplish this with Upstart?