=== denny- is now known as denny [00:12] hamitron, yup [00:12] I'm being DoS'd [00:12] finally managed to get that far :( [00:12] now I need to figure out how to iptables block it [00:12] will be hard if they are from different IP :/ [00:14] hamitron, nope [00:14] all the same IP [00:14] good point I can just filter the IP [00:14] some kiddie from canada [00:14] I'mma mail his abuseΩ [00:15] :) === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller [00:54] DoS != DDoS ;-) [01:12] ^^ [01:13] ...it's not DDoS if it's all the same IP... [01:14] also @ fail... using synergy by any chance? [01:17] indeed [01:18] also, Hi #ubuntu-uk :) [02:03] hamitron, my servers back to life :D [02:03] and the 4chan hornets are descending on the perp [02:03] I'd hate to be him right now. [02:04] :) [02:04] Azelphur: I wish I was a fly on the wall [02:05] hamitron, you can be, it's all going down in my channel [02:05] they've got his real name, twitter account, telephone number [02:05] they've been trying to call but it's busy so far [02:05] so the real fun is no doubt on the way [02:05] :) [02:05] is it just a script kiddy? [02:05] yup === emma is now known as em [04:29] is there a way to rename a username that's been registered on IRC? [04:30] because I have HazRPG and HazRPG-Desktop both linked together [04:30] but I want to get rid of the HazRPG-Desktop one (since it's technically the main one, I want HazRPG to be the main one) [04:31] scratch that, nickserv has told me ^^ [04:31] /msg nickserv identify to the account you don't want to keep, /msg nickserv drop it, /nick to it, /msg nickserv identify to the one you do want to keep, /msg nickserv group [04:31] ah, beaten by a bot :( [04:32] ^^ thanks though - I love the ubuntu community because they're so awesome :) === HazRPG is now known as HazRPG-Desktop === HazRPG-Desktop is now known as HazRPG [04:35] hmm, won't drop it lol === HazRPG is now known as HazRPG-Desktop === HazRPG-Desktop is now known as HazRPG [04:37] "Nick HazRPG-Desktop is your account name; you may not remove it." [04:38] odd. try /msg nickserv drop HazRPG-Desktop yourpasswordhere [04:38] (notice) Account HazRPG-Desktop has 1 other nick(s) grouped to it, remove those first. [04:39] how odd [04:39] seems I need to first ungroup HazRPG first before I can do that :s [04:39] oh, I thought they were two different accounts [04:39] if they're already grouped together, /msg nickserv set accountname hazrpg === HazRPG is now known as HazRPG-Desktop === HazRPG-Desktop is now known as HazRPG [04:41] woot! [04:41] think i fixed it :D [04:42] thanks kindly for your help :) [04:47] How many nicks are you actually limited to on IRC using this grouping method? [04:48] #freenode might know the exact number. More than 8, if memory serves. [04:50] awesome [04:50] only really need HazRPG [04:50] only had HazRPG-Desktop because I was loggin in from my laptop and Desktop, but I don't do that anymore === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [05:01] Hmm, why does empathy not let you view a room list for IRC? [05:02] because empathy is not a good IRC client :( [05:02] try /msg alis help list [05:02] (which is actually better anyway; /list tends to flood you off if you typo) [05:03] pidgin just lists them all xD [05:03] which is a pain [05:04] what's a decent GUI IRC client for ubuntu? [05:04] currently got ubuntu/windows running side by side now [05:15] test === niall is now known as hcfd [05:33] Hey guys. I currently have two RAID1 arrays setup, and Ubuntu 10.10 on its own 80GB disk. I gave it 3GB for swap and the rest for /. I have a spare 80GB disk now and would like to move my entire Ubuntu / to a RAID1 array. Any thoughts on how best to do this, considering that I turned on home folder encryption? [05:34] A high level overview is all I'm after, not the step by step instructions. Thanks. [05:37] I would guess that I need to setup the spare disk first, give it a partition for /boot, one for swap, one for / (as RAID fd autodetect), then start this as a degraded RAID1 array, cp my boot folder to to the boot partition, cp / to /, minus the boot folder, use the Ubuntu CD to boot the system and update grub, making the new disk bootable. Then add my current disk to the RAID1? [05:38] Oh, and a bit of fstab editing after copying / over. [05:38] Thoughts, anyone? === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller [07:12] Morning === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller [07:57] hello all [08:25] moin [08:26] \o [08:31] Morning [08:41] Morning all [09:03] G'morning! [09:03] morning [09:04] Morning BigRedS MooDoo [09:04] * BigRedS has just remembered he was supposed to bring some coffee in this morning :( [09:04] Morning. [09:07] morning [09:07] morning dutch [09:07] morning dutchie [09:07] :) [09:09] Hey everyone! czajkowski has lost her voice! Great news - IRC will be safe today. [09:09] TheOpenSourcerer: yay o/ [09:13] Surely if she's lost her voice she'll be using the keyboard more... [09:16] nothing like a 5 mile run in the rain to get you going at 7:30 on a monday morning [09:17] dutchie: A 5 mile run in the rain at 7:30 on a monday morning would get me going back to bed :) [09:17] i'm just glad i'm back on the motorbike :) [09:20] Good morning [09:20] Grr, wrong window [09:21] DJones: hospital bed, or what? :) [09:21] dutchie: I did a 6-mile run yesterday.. still hurting :) [09:21] dutchie: http://goo.gl/maps/GD0M [09:23] MartijnVdS: Probably, yes [09:24] MartijnVdS: i have a nice run up headington hill followed by circuits, followed by a run back this afternoon [09:24] that's going to hurt [09:25] i have two speeds, slow and stop :) [09:25] dutchie: I'm training for a 20km run at the beginning of March [09:25] dutchie: THAT is going to hurt :) [09:25] yeah, that is going to hurt [09:25] dutchie: http://www.20vanalphen.nl/ [09:25] this is all in the name of rowing [09:32] pwd [09:32] ls [09:32] oooops :) [09:33] aloha [09:34] g'morning czajkowski [09:35] czajkowski: morning, damn your fingers still work even though your voice doesn't ;) [09:36] MooDoo: go away :( [09:36] poor czajkowski [09:39] morning :) [09:41] czajkowski: i love you xx :) [10:17] morning all [10:18] morning AlanBell [10:18] Morning peeps :) [10:18] hi bigcalm [10:18] and AlanBell [10:25] Hey, I'm trying to migrate a single disk Ubuntu install to a RAID1 (2 drives) setup. I have some confusion over the naming scheme for the new array, which has 1 disk out of 2. [10:25] I created it as /dev/md0 but mdstat --detail --scan >> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf output /dev/md/d0 instead [10:26] Not sure what to put in 40_custom for GRUB now. Any ideas? [10:26] Initial trial boot didn't work.. not sure if that's a naming problem or the fact that it's a degraded array, having only one disk. I plan to later add the original single OS drive. [10:27] Made new initramfs and installed grub to the new raid member /dev/sdc, after chrooting into it and updating the 40_custom and fstab. [10:28] I have a tutorial for Arch Linux open which seems right on the money but is using GRUB 1, and it does have notes for Ubuntu, so I followed those obviously. [10:29] arch... everywhere [10:29] flavour of 2011 [10:29] i might install it next time i have nothing to do [10:29] I'm only one or two steps away from booting this. Changed BIOS order and thought it was working but turns out it didn't boot the new raid, it booted the original disk after first disk failed. I expect grub can't see the root device, /dev/md0 [10:30] ali1234, never tried it, I'm just using the guide as it is well written and comprehensive.. though perhaps not up to date for my particular situation. [10:31] tried finding a guide for ubuntu? [10:31] I did. All wayy outdated. [10:32] I just don't get why what was created and running as md0 is now md/d0 or md_d0 depending on what is looking at it. [10:32] Not sure how grub sees it.. which I think is the only issue. I suppose I could trial and error it till it works. [10:32] whats the difference? [10:32] grub has tab completion.. go to grub shell and try that [10:33] There's an idea! [10:33] I'm a long-time Slack user accustomed to LILO... I just didn't think of that. [10:33] Will try it. [10:33] Thanks. [10:43] Interesting, £98 refurbished pc's using Linux to be made available to get people online http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/364411/lane-fox-to-sell-98-pcs-to-the-have-nots [10:45] "A computer? Very nice dear! Put in the corner with the unused mobile phone, smoke alarm, Freeview box ..." [10:48] ali1234: sounds like my gran :) [10:48] ali1234: "ooooo a computer.....will it warm my slippers?" :) [10:48] my mum uses hers [10:49] popey: your mum is famed for using hers....mumbuntu! :) [10:49] my mom runs ubuntu :D [10:49] dogmatic69: mom? you american? [10:49] :p [10:49] no [10:49] hehe just being silly :) [10:49] from south africa, but living in birmingham :) [10:51] popey: Rage time :) http://twitter.com/#!/KerryHomeopath/status/28068864126 [10:52] i lost [10:53] MartijnVdS: I think her brain must be 100% water [10:53] MartijnVdS: sigh eh :) [10:53] I tried to explain having more than 4 channels on her new TV to my gran [10:53] didn't work :'( [10:53] Laney: as long as there is snooker on the telly my gran is ok :D [10:53] Just finished :( [10:54] anything involving royalty or flowers or singing hymns [10:54] i gave my mum a netbook with UNR on it, she was incredibly confused by the window menu being in the wrong place [10:54] MartijnVdS: AARGGGHH! [10:54] and so was I [10:55] Morning [10:57] mornign daubers [10:57] Good morning all [10:57] \o Matto_Destiny [10:57] * daubers is sat in traffic on the m4 [10:57] Hi screen-x [10:58] daubers: :( [10:58] daubers: which was are you supposed to be going? [10:58] *way [10:58] screen-x: Heading into London [10:58] I have a Question, I work with Mysql & ubuntu, i am always running into casr sensitive issues. 1) is Ubuntu likely to sort this issue and 2) is there a way round it. Thankyou [10:59] * DJones hates Atheros 2413 wireless & WPA, stupid thing will only connect about 20% of the time [10:59] Matto_Destiny: what is 'this issue'? [10:59] MySQL and Ubuntu, and most of the rest of what you're likely to be running, will alwasy be case-sensitive [11:00] that's viewed by many people as a feature, rather than a proble - you're likely to find that the way round it is to get used to it :) [11:00] mysql isn't case sensitive, it doesn't care if you put "SELECT" or "select" or whatever [11:00] a lot of badly written php code won't work on a case sensitive FS however [11:00] but then, bad php code is bad [11:00] ali1234: It is with table names and columns [11:00] Oh yeah, that bit isn't. That's a good point. (that's also why I get told off for all-lower-case sql) [11:01] yes daubers thats what i meant [11:01] SQL is pretty unreadable at the best of time... all caps commands helps a bit [11:02] are there any DB engines that aren't case sensitive for table and column names?? [11:02] well for example Windows doesnt have the issue [11:03] I find sensible quoting helps almost as well, without filling my screen with all caps [11:03] it doesnt seem to case if its Caps or lower [11:03] Matto_Destiny: Windows is case-insensitive. It's not an 'issue' on either system, it's just two different ways of doing it [11:03] Matto_Destiny: though MySQL (and MSSQL) on Windows is case-sensitive on table and field names [11:03] It poxy well should be cse sensitive [11:04] In most languages x != X [11:04] ok thought i'd ask anyways, i will keep hounding the project lead to keep changing his code to accomodate it. Thanks anyways [11:05] always write code that works on case sensitive systems but assumes the system is not case sensitive... it isn't hard... [11:05] Matto_Destiny: if it causes you problems write a parsser to ensure correct casing [11:06] he does anyways for all platform, i was just asking for me [11:06] http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/identifier-case-sensitivity.html [11:06] hmmmmmmmmm [11:07] " the case sensitivity of the underlying operating system plays a part in the case sensitivity of database and table names. This means database and table names are not case sensitive in Windows, and case sensitive in most varieties of Unix." [11:07] There is an exceedingly bright disc in the sky. It hurts to look at. What the heck is it? [11:07] bigcalm: UFO, the aliens are coming to get you [11:07] also http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/server-system-variables.html#sysvar_lower_case_table_names [11:07] so you can fix it like this [11:07] is it David Camerons ass? [11:07] ok :) [11:08] you will have to rebuild the DB though I guess [11:08] but you can do that with mysqldump [11:08] yeah np [11:09] but i would recommend you just clobber the DBA who thought capitalising the table and row names was a good idea [11:09] ali1234: I've worked on a couple of systems where table and row names were all capitalised, and all sql commands were lower-case [11:10] well... that's just crazy [11:10] hehe, its a crazy world [11:10] nah, just do everything in caps-lock :) [11:10] morning all [11:10] BigRedS: Or LiKe ThIs :) [11:10] prods czajkowski as she can't shout at him :D [11:10] but, yeah, confused the hell out of me for the first couple of hours. I think that's when I stopped bothering with capitalisation in SQL [11:10] davmor2: she's sulking i think :) [11:11] MooDoo: haha [11:12] * screen-x is getting annoyed with vmware, tried to convert a disk image for use with kvm, but the resultant image is an old snapshot. [11:12] MooDoo: online in a morning not seen that for a couple of weeks at least [11:14] davmor2: i've swapped a shift today with a collegue so for today at least i'm in 8 - 4:30 [11:15] nice then the rest of the week at 4:30 till 0:00 or something weird [11:16] davmor2: might be able to work from 8am tomorrow, but yeah reast of week 3:40 - midnight [11:20] good moerning [11:20] davmor2: will give me chance to benchmar ubuntu and my new SSD :) [11:21] livingdaylight: morning [11:21] MooDoo: nice [11:22] davmor2, rainy one here [11:22] * czajkowski sends davmor2 and MooDoo to the bold corned [11:22] *corner [11:23] czajkowski: feel bold today no verbal abuse off you ;) [11:24] czajkowski: *is this bold enough* [11:24] rats didn't work [11:24] anyone using Android recommend a particular app for reading .mobi files? === denny- is now known as denny [11:25] livingdaylight: calibre [11:25] livingdaylight: I think FBreader can access .mobi files (but not 100% certain) [11:25] livingdaylight: they're e-books, right? [11:25] this particular one is a .mobi file some are epubs [11:25] livingdaylight: calibre :) [11:25] it's _the_ ebook app [11:25] kewl :) [11:25] czajkowski: davmor2 is this bold enough [11:26] not a huge fan of Amazon or their proprietary Kindle [11:26] livingdaylight: calibre talks to kindle :) [11:26] Moodoo no but this should be [11:27] MartijnVdS, £1.88? [11:27] livingdaylight: FBReader can read non-DRM'd mobipocket files according to http://www.fbreader.org/docs/formats.php [11:27] livingdaylight: uh? calibre is free.. apt-get install calibre [11:28] oh wait [11:28] MartijnVdS: He asked about android [11:28] Calibre on the desktop [11:28] MartijnVdS, sorry, I know its not directly linux related, but was referring to Android [11:28] DJones: I'm confused by this being an Ubuntu channel and my window not being tall enough :) [11:28] Heh [11:29] DJones, thx [11:29] well.. you can find _any_ ebook app you want, and convert .mobi to epub using calibre on the desktop .. :) [11:29] livingdaylight: Try FBReader, thats free & seems like it reads mobipocket files, or install calibre on Ubuntu & convert the ebook to whatever format you want [11:29] MartijnVdS, great, its good to know anyway [11:31] livingdaylight: I use it to upload books to my sony ebook reader [11:31] czajkowski: what's you're phone number i'm half tempted to ring you just to see how husky ;) lol [11:31] MartijnVdS, its good to know. Just installing it on Desktop now - will no doubt come in handy [11:41] Is there a 'show grants' equivalent for databases in mysql? Rather than getting what a user can do, get who can do what on a db? [11:43] czajkowski: so all joking aside, are you ok, just a sore throat? [11:45] * AlanBell knows a number MooDoo isn't going to get [11:46] ali1234, problem sorted. Cup of coffee helped me see a minor config error, and grub command line let me boot up no problem whatsoever. Thank fook. [11:46] yay for the OLPC working fine on rubbish wifi connections [11:46] :) [11:46] you running OpenERP on your OLPC? [11:46] AlanBell: kinda what i expected :) [11:47] BigRedS: use mysql; select * from db where db.Db = 'database'; [11:48] AlanBell: you think not? [11:49] popey: probably could do [11:49] it is just python [11:49] i still quite fancy an olpc [11:49] ali1234: Ah yes! I forget you can do normal SQL here :) [11:50] i need to buy 6 very large disks [11:50] popey: best laptop I have ever had [11:50] pondering 2TB [11:50] in terms of lasting and being useful and interesting [11:50] yeah, it is all of those [11:50] shame about the keyboard [11:51] yeah, but you can plug in a USB one [11:51] blimey, you can get 3TB disks now [11:52] some day when I can let go of it I will donate it to freesitebuilder's museum [11:56] hrm, not sure what to do with my netbook that i don't need anymore [11:56] is it a good idea to microwave a netbook? [11:57] only if you add cheese [11:57] preferably brie [11:57] starting to think i should replace my server with my netbook, its basically the same hardware but the netbook is smaller ;) [11:58] probably uses less power too [11:58] not really, like i said, same hardware [11:59] Had my first DoS attack yesterday :D [11:59] it take a lot of electricity to fill that big case :D [11:59] i keep meaning to turn off password attempts on my server, but then i wouldn't get to see the creative names bots try and log in with! [11:59] Feeling the hate D: [12:00] gord: is it an EEE? [12:00] gord: throw up a fake contact.php on the root of your site for fun times :) [12:00] X3N, no, dell mini 10v [12:00] oh [12:03] so, say i had about 100GB of data that i need to process, and it would take 150 days on my workstation... how much would it cost me to get it done on a high performance cluster in like a week? [12:04] ali1234: ask aws [12:04] i calculated it would cost about £500 on EC2 [12:05] but i don't wanna set it all up myself [12:05] cheaper to buy another comp to dedicate to the task :/ [12:05] i just want to send the data and the code to someone, and get back the result [12:05] you know, like in the old days... [12:06] ali1234: hmm, I may be able to help (indirectly) - let me check :) [12:06] hamitron: not really, the 150 day estimate is on a machine that cost £500 [12:06] how long would it take on amazon? [12:07] depends how many instances i would rent and bother to configure [12:07] the task is highly parallel [12:07] ali1234: a machine that cost £1000 would be significantly faster [12:07] probably, this machine is a year old too [12:07] ali1234: the machine I'm thinking of has quite a number of cores [12:08] if it's still available [12:08] i have a quad core... [12:08] 16 cores would therefore be about a month... [12:09] * popey looks at numerous 12 core boxes sat idle :( [12:09] ali1234: so get a quad socket board with 6 core xeons, it'll be done in no time.. [12:09] screen-x: that's all? :) [12:10] i guess if i spec the machine for raw CPU performance... [12:10] maybe i can rewrite the processing software to use GPU or something [12:10] * hamitron would just set any half decent machines he has on the task, then wait [12:10] ali1234, what kind of data, ever thought about opencl? [12:10] leaving my main machine to work on unused [12:10] MattJ: well, obviously it needs some sort of hardware xmpp interface as well.. [12:10] i'm doing deconvolution, so yeah [12:10] XMPP \o/ [12:11] does this stuff have to be done quick? [12:11] not really no [12:12] why not just put it in background then? [12:14] well i can [12:14] sorry for been boring ;) [12:15] other way sounds way more cool [12:15] gord: is there a library for image process/signal analysis type tasks using openCL? or does it include that stuff? [12:15] eg fast gaussian blur on a 1d array... [12:17] Jabber \o/ [12:18] Jabber \o'/ [12:18] ! [12:19] ali1234, no but gaussian blurs aren't hard to write :) just copy the gimp code [12:19] the gimp code isn't written in openCL :) [12:19] openCL is a lot like C [12:20] resizing, blurring, differencing the data is the main slow point in my app, so openCL looks good [12:20] the basic algorithms in gimp will apply well [12:20] plus, whats more fun than learning something new like opencl! ;) [12:21] well i'm already trying to wrap my head around fourier analysis at the moment... [12:21] seems like it applies to my problem [12:23] afternoon peeps :) [12:23] cps: zaafternoon [12:23] ali1234: "2-dimensional Gaussian Blur Filter of RGBA image using IRF method."? [12:23] it's MooDoo ! [12:23] how's you? :p [12:24] hamitron: yeah, i'd prefer a nice easy to use library that hides all the complexity, rather than a 1 shot example code... [12:24] ah ok, there is a sample on the nvidia site [12:26] * cps noms on some cornflakes [12:27] absolutely nothing for lunch :\ [12:27] Potnoodle \o/ [12:29] reckon I may get fish and chips [12:31] Can a Potboodle be considered as lunch, or even food for that matter [12:32] hehe, no ;) [12:33] Yes and yes :D [12:36] bbl, chippy here I come! [12:43] MooDoo: what kinda phone do you have [12:44] czajkowski: htc desire [12:45] interesting [12:45] czajkowski: er why? [12:48] * czajkowski grins, MooDoo isn't able to use his phone :p [12:48] * MooDoo has just been beaten by czajkowski's stick of learning.... [12:49] * popey spies on czajkowski [12:49] * popey hugs google latitude [12:49] * czajkowski peers at popey [12:49] popey: see you know how to use your phone [12:49] * czajkowski hands MooDoo the manual to his phone [12:49] :) [12:49] tell her popey, she's picking on me [12:49] and I have a _great_ phone [12:49] popey: iphone right? [12:49] ya [12:49] popey: I beg to differ, my version of yours is in a drawer :p [12:50] * popey also spies on dutchie [12:50] i could of had an iphone at upgrade time, if i gave them £100 + £45 a month, thought i'd go with the free android :) [12:50] and Daviey ooo and AlanBell [12:50] dutchie: ping [12:51] czajkowski: well you're now linked to facebook and twitter :D [12:51] oo and JamesTait [12:51] * JamesTait wakes up. [12:51] popey: we get to do the latitude watch for oggcamp again this year :D [12:52] What did I do now? :) [12:52] dang it it firefox sync, firefox sync faster! [12:52] latitude tells me czajkowski is a "stale friend" [12:52] roflol [12:53] popey is nice and fresh [12:53] wish things would stop saying i should connect my facebook account to them [12:55] popey: you out and about today ? [12:55] heh banshee is written in mono but doesn't run on windows [12:55] nothign unusual about that, most .net apps won't run in mono either [12:56] davmor2: accepted but no good to me unless I'm stuck at that train station again! [12:56] czajkowski: Yeah but it stops you sneeking up on me to whack me :P [12:57] davmor2: she's from ireland, it wouldn't hurt any way ;) [12:59] popey, The latest generation of android phones are epic levels of awesomeness better than the Hero.... So don't taint them all with legacy hardware :) [12:59] czajkowski: I'm at work. [12:59] Daviey: still android, still broken [12:59] I have played with a few here at work [12:59] popey: she only wants you to pick up some tea :) [13:00] MooDoo: you say that till czajkowski's Ireland thrashes England at Rugby then you eat humble pie for 12 months right? [13:00] davmor2: as if that's going to happen :) [13:01] * MooDoo gets out his grovelling shirt just in case..... [13:01] MooDoo: March will tell won't it [13:02] MooDoo: haha [13:02] czajkowski: yes it will, rats is it that close......er er, ah england players are all injured :) [13:02] well my team are now out of the H cup so that frees up some people to train outside of the Magners L [13:03] czajkowski: yeah i heard about that....bugger.... [13:03] czajkowski: harlequins won though :p [13:05] i know nothing about sports but am willing to offer my opinion, it seems to me like you want the people that are best at putting an air inflated balloon ball thing in to the opposing teams area where you get a point [13:05] popey, What aspects do you consider borked? [13:06] Daviey, no big apple symbol on the back ;) [13:06] heh [13:06] gord: when it comes to rugby czajkowski and i have a love hate relationship [13:06]