[00:01] <jedijf> lshw
[00:01] <jedijf> lsci lsusb lspcmcia
[00:01] <jedijf> add -vv's as needed
[00:01] <jedijf> lspci   p is acting up on kb
[00:01] <andrew> Those with Samsung android phones, or those considering a samsung android phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913045
[00:03] <jedijf> i think i saw froyo for s already...just didn't want to do it
[00:03] <jedijf> a while ago
[00:44] <Dossy> yeah, time to do a custom froyo rom it looks like :(
[01:08] <andrew> jedijf: most carrier upgrades on android are manditory (or you can put it off, but it continues to remind you daily
[01:08] <andrew> )
[02:16] <InHisName> intel cpu
[04:58] <jthan> andrew: WAKE UP
[04:59] <andrew> why?
[04:59] <jthan> Why? Because I got lots of questions
[04:59] <jthan> silly.
[04:59] <andrew> But... I have work tomorrow
[04:59] <jthan> Work is for scrubs/
[04:59] <jthan> Did you root your droid?
[05:00] <andrew> I haven't (yet)
[05:00] <jthan> Hm.
[05:00] <jthan> Well AT&T doesn't let you sideload apps and what not
[05:00] <jthan> Sooo.
[05:00] <jthan> also the marketplace is "censored"
[05:00] <jthan> so
[05:00] <andrew> sideload?
[05:00] <andrew> define censored?
[05:00] <jthan> You can't install anything from the interwebz
[05:01] <jthan> like... fennec
[05:01] <jthan> and only "pre-approved" apps show up in the market place
[05:01] <andrew> Really odd, granted, after reading something today I wouldn't go with Samsung phones again
[05:01] <jthan> Why is that?
[05:01] <andrew> 19:01:48 < andrew> Those with Samsung android phones, or those considering a samsung android phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913045
[05:02] <jthan> Heh.
[05:03] <jthan> well I'm pretty much already planning on rooting mine anyhow.
[05:03] <jthan> Soo.
[05:03] <andrew> knowing what's in that article, I'd root
[05:04] <jthan> Just not sure what rom to use, etc.
[05:04] <jthan> There are a lot of factors
[05:04] <jthan> I found a really "easy" guide, but it's a little outdated so all the links are broken.
[05:04] <andrew> jthan: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/
[05:04] <PennBot> Title: Android News (at www.reddit.com)
[05:05] <jthan> No word on how long it'll actually take to get such an update?
[05:05] <andrew> Which update?
[05:06] <jthan> Froyo
[05:06] <jthan> For me.. haha.
[05:06] <jthan> I didn't know if you did any further reading
[05:06] <andrew> dunno, might be never
[05:06] <andrew> I didn't read beyond that, but everything else on the topic is now going to be speculative based on that
[05:07] <jthan> Makes me wanna just take it back and keep using my iPhone until another android phone that is worthy comes out for AT&T :-P
[11:23] <JonathanD> morning
[15:28] <andrew> morning
[16:12] <JonathanD> still?
[16:12] <PennBot> Somebody said still is a fraid to apt-get autoremove, JonathanD
[16:26] <jedijf> jthan: ping
[16:26] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: ping
[16:26] <jedijf> allentown hackerspace startup meeting tonight
[16:26] <andrew> jedijf: "fresh" and "walmart" in the same tweet?
[16:29] <jedijf> Bridgeworks Enterprise Center, 905 Harrison, parking under the water
[16:29] <jedijf> >> tower.
[16:29] <jedijf> 6:30
[16:29] <andrew> Sounds safe.
[16:29] <andrew> jedijf: but tonight is also plug west
[16:29] <jedijf> andrew: yes, now that we're there ;)
[16:29] <jedijf> allentown only conflicts with NORTH
[16:30] <andrew> North? It's on the same night as West on my calendar
[16:30] <andrew> Unless you are talking geographically
[16:32] <ChinnoDog> jedijf: there is a hackerspace in Allentown?
[16:32] <andrew> jedijf: This seems to be right up your alley: http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/f3juo/i_dont_like_the_fact_that_real_has_become_a/
[16:32] <PennBot> Title: I don't like the fact that "Real" has become a necessary descriptor. : WTF (at www.reddit.com)
[16:32] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: startup meeting....trying to start one up...does not exist yet, hopes to soon exist
[16:34] <jedijf> andrew: real or fake, in many things, i am not that picky....tend to be grateful
[16:41] <ChinnoDog> jedijf: That is 1hr 23min from me. It is closer than Philly but realistically still too far for me to go on a regular basis
[19:13] <ChinnoDog> I think if I worked at a place where my boss had the same name as I then I would have to go by a different name.
[19:13] <ChinnoDog> boss/coworker
[19:21] <jedijf> do they call you chinnodog at work?
[19:21] <jedijf> no,they don't call me jedi....they do call me king though
[19:22] <jedijf> or general.....at the turkish places (pasha)
[19:24] <ChinnoDog> Are you keeping a log of all the places you've been to eat? How many more before you have been to every restaurant in eastern PA?
[19:33] <jedijf> i forget more often thatn not
[19:33] <jedijf> than
[20:28] <mikedep333> hey guys, I went to format my USB 2.0 3.5" 7200 RPM 500 GB drive entirely with an ext3 partition via the disk utility on maverick
[20:28] <mikedep333> it's been like 5 minutes and it appears to still be formatting
[20:28] <mikedep333> mkfs.ext3 is still running
[20:28] <mikedep333> and the disk still has its access LED blinking
[20:39] <ChinnoDog> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=463111
[20:39] <PennBot> Title: Long 500gb usb ext3 format time - Ubuntu Forums (at ubuntuforums.org)
[20:39] <ChinnoDog> I'll summarize: Its normal. ext3 takes a long time to format.
[20:39] <ChinnoDog> Why didn't you use ext4?
[20:39] <ChinnoDog> mikedep333:
[20:43] <mikedep333> ChinnoDog, sorry, people helped me on another channel
[20:43] <mikedep333> because I'm hooking it upto my pogoplug
[20:43] <mikedep333> a linux ARM-based NAS server
[20:43] <mikedep333> which doesn't support ext4
[20:44] <mikedep333> also, I may want my windows desktops with old ext2fsd to read it, and that only supports upto ext3 by default
[20:46] <mikedep333> I'm switching to my other comp now, thanks, ttyl