[01:03] hello [01:09] hey orangeninja [01:37] what's been going on ranger [01:39] not much [01:39] yeah, same here. [02:23] hello everyone :) [02:23] and orangeninja howdy [02:23] helle wrst [02:23] hello too [02:24] ha ha glad i'm not the only one that has mis typings from time to time :) [02:24] haa, I do it all the time [02:25] i'm trying to fix a vista computer so i'm really probable to do that right now [02:26] fun times. I am watching the Predators vs Blackhawks via DVR not live so no scores please. NSH3 CHI2 11:48 3RD....ha ha [02:27] what's the vista problem? [02:29] :) [02:29] well its vista is the problem [02:29] doing a reinstall on a machine and i'm thinking I have some type of hardware issue [02:29] surely someone didn't sell something this slow to someone [02:29] fan runs a lot hard drive very active i think maybe cooling issues slowing it down about to open it up [02:30] yeah, my vista machine has a constant HD light activity but no other problems I have noticed. It is about time for a clean up though [02:31] well i must say i hate vista [02:33] well, I have not had anything that makes me hate it but I does have it's problems with startup speed and random explorer crashes. [02:34] I am here trying to learn ubuntu though....ha ha [02:35] I must admit that since I installed it duel boot on this laptop, i have only booted into vista for a couple of things. [02:35] just not brave enough to go all ubuntu on it yet, but i will eventually [02:40] well orangeninja this computer has help the heat sink is stopped up with dust, can't be good for things [02:44] nope [03:09] how's it comming? [03:09] wrst: fixing vista, oxymoron of the year? [03:09] yeah tell me [03:09] cyberanger-bot: ??? you a bot? [03:10] orangeninja: i'm calling it for the night i'm going to have to take this one outside to blow it out [03:10] probably take it apart [03:10] yep, incomplete [03:11] and it doesn't work on windows ;-) [03:11] what are you doing cyberanger ? [03:12] ha ha, yeah I need to clean the dust out of my vista box too... I need to buy a can of air this week. [03:12] full list ........... [03:13] I'll give you the top 5, for time's sake [03:13] ha ha [03:13] eating programmer's food, slid under the door from mr gates [03:13] codine a bot [03:14] fetching lucid and hardy's repo, for chattacon [03:14] working on coming up with some more events here [03:14] hardy... wow going old school cyberanger :) [03:14] or, and chatting with you [03:15] cyberanger natty has some nice stuff going [03:15] well, when the install of xubuntu 8.04 was done, it was new [03:15] and comes out once a year, thus lts [03:15] 8.04 is still good stuff [03:16] when is chattacon cyber? [03:17] good night all [03:18] goodnight wrst [03:18] fri sun [03:19] wrst: ^^^ [03:19] orangeninja: ^^ [03:19] it'll be a fun weekend [03:20] dang, maybe next time..... [03:21] well, if your in the area, it'll be a rare time I'd be in city limits [03:21] so I could at least do a meetup, probally friday or sunday [03:21] im in nashville [03:22] chattanooga [03:22] aren't you chattanooga based? [03:22] (thus the chatta in chattacon) [03:23] nope just a mistype on my part sorry [03:23] idk why I recalled you saying that in prior chat [03:24] who knows [03:24] hard to kepp all the nicks straight [03:25] yep, no doubt [03:28] idk, 300 I think [03:28] combinded [03:28] wrst u here [03:28] hey linuxman410 [03:28] hey cyberanger just listed a few laptops and a desktop on ebay [03:28] just left linuxman [03:29] orangeninja have not seen u here before [03:30] linuxman410: any plans for east tn [03:30] aside from my one [03:31] no not really been trying to spread the word [03:32] and how sucessful [03:32] we gotta keep records [03:33] and that's an issue of mine too [03:33] i tell everyone i have to reload their computer on count of a virus which has been alot lately [03:33] what's the tally you think? [03:34] and yeah it'd be less if they used linux [03:34] ;-) [03:34] i know i have told at least 15 people about ubuntu lately i even use a linux based phone called the palm pre [03:38] 15, great [05:35] nice thing about two connections, I can hammer charter and still chat on IRC over T-Mobile [07:03] I wish I could say the same [07:03] I'm about to hammer my hughesnet, so I gotta disconnect lol [07:07] he was gonna hammer his highesnet after the download period started? [10:02] http://ubuntustats.com/ [10:02] interesting site with live updates ... [10:05] hey chibihogoshino [10:05] morning [10:05] morning cyberanger [10:05] nice weather .. [10:05] hows it going [10:07] chibihogoshino: pretty good [10:07] intresting site [10:08] as for the weather, cold, dark at 5am [10:08] but will be fine [10:09] and cold is better than usual [10:11] it was around 40 degrees yesterday [10:48] cyberanger: do you think the team should be working on something ? [10:52] chibihogoshino: of course, question is what? [10:52] thats what iv been trying to think of .. [10:52] two leaders have boots and public transit (myself is one of two) [10:53] only thing i can come up with is a theme with the tn logo and colors .. some nice backgrounds [10:53] so I'm just glad xubuntu at chattacon is happening again [10:53] when and were is they ? [10:54] chattanooga choo choo hotel [10:54] both ? [10:55] and this weekend [10:55] where and when [10:55] ahh [10:55] sweet [10:57] yeah, something to test an installfest rig [10:58] thing is, here in east tn we're dispursed enough, klug isn't what it was [10:58] idk, east tn might be dead [10:58] it is hard with how its so spread out [10:58] but memphis rebuilt golem and in the process grew [10:59] but I think fragementing further might be a mistake [10:59] golem ? [10:59] memphis lug [11:00] oh yeah.. heh [11:02] idk about middle tn [11:03] we have exodus_ms in tullahoma, two around cookville [11:03] two around nashville [11:04] and east tn, those I've heard from recently, you, linuxman410 in the Moristown area [11:04] and myself north of chattanooga [11:04] whearas west tn is nearly all memphis [11:07] hmm.. [11:07] maybe we should have a call in to see who all is still around [11:07] roll call i guess [11:08] yeah, but I'd want to do that with motivation to answer [11:09] what kind ? [11:09] nice thing is it does help that we don't define active members, the loco council does [11:09] what kind, that is the question [11:11] (we just give the council launchpad member numbers, they divide by three or so, thus active, which I think inflates our membership a little) [11:13] it would be nice to have irc be more of a part with live help for new users .. [11:13] man, adding hardy's packages is taking awhile, but come to think of it, lucid too [11:14] chibihogoshino: yeah, or more members on the list or forum [11:14] how large is one distro ? [11:14] it's irc or nothing [11:14] define distro [11:14] ubuntu hardy, kubuntu hardy, xubuntu hardy, then many packages you can install [11:14] then lucid too [11:15] if you want the entire mirror size [11:15] i was thinking a live help in the menu or on the desktop that launches a custom irc client that connects to a freenode channel specifically for new user live help .. [11:15] http://www.netritious.com/software/ubuntu/local-ubuntu-repository/ [11:16] 89g when he wrote that [11:16] it could collect some info and have them describe the problem and then launch the client and use past bin for the info join the channel and past the url and some one would pm them [11:16] 89.. thats a bit big [11:17] yes, but that's anythink one could want to install [11:17] for hardy and lucid [11:17] they wouldnt even need to see the normal irc stuff [11:17] including what nobody installs usually [11:18] server, desktop, kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, from abcde to zsync [11:18] to bad they dont have a tgz of all the packages [11:18] well, it'd be huge [11:18] better not to [11:18] yeah [11:18] rsync is simplier as a list [11:19] the help menu bit sounds nice [11:19] linux is 20 years old.. it can almost legally drink [11:20] same here, so I'll just take linux to canada and I'll buy tux a brew [11:20] lol [11:20] someone has a open source beer [11:20] ubuntu cola for now ;-) [11:21] the help menu could probably be done in python [11:21] or php or perl [11:22] just a matter of why [11:22] just a matter of who [11:22] who will code it [11:22] yeah [11:22] (hell, maybe bash can do it even) [11:22] hmm. [11:22] can it connect to irc ? [11:22] bash, more likely fire up a client [11:23] but go far enough out, sure [11:23] wouldnt a terminal popping up freak out a new user tho ? [11:23] you assume I'd launch a terminal [11:23] and for an irc client I would, but a web browser will do [11:24] and as for the input, I'd use zenity for getting input, curl for posting to pastebin [11:24] and it'd be doable [11:25] but an offical solution would be better in python or something else higher end [11:25] it would have to be simple with clean directions [11:26] clear not clean [11:26] well, that it can be, but ubuntu would like both [11:26] yeah [11:26] it would be nice if it could have a remote desktop option too [11:27] well, dealing with firewalls and permissions there [11:27] yeah [11:27] handing the keys to the corvette to a nascar driver I can see [11:27] the base ubuntu dosnt have a firewall tho [11:27] but jonny chopshop [11:28] yes, ubuntu does, iptables [11:28] enabled no, but how many are behind a router [11:28] yeah.. [11:28] practially anyone on ipv4 (ipv6 is a game changer in ways) has nat translation [11:29] and some firewalls go with it [11:29] why not just use port 80 [11:31] dpi firewalls [11:31] and transperent proxies [11:31] better chance of 443 [11:31] ah [11:32] but same rules can apply (less likely on 443 if encrypted too, as well, can't inspect an encrypted packet beyond unencrypted headers [11:32] is anyone going to have a party for linuxs birthday ? [11:32] but there are clues in cases) [11:32] hard to say, is the loco, I'm not planing anything myself [11:33] I can't, I'm too far to try [11:33] part of the info it could collect is to see if the option for a rd session is available [11:33] unless you wanna to hold a meetup in chattanooga this weekend [11:33] what is the month it was first compiled ? [11:33] i know it was in 91 but other than that im not shur [11:35] September 1991 when was version 0.01 [11:36] September 1991, Linux version 0.01 was released [11:36] heh [11:37] that would of been cool if ubuntu 10.10 was released then [11:38] instead of a cool binary date [11:38] 101010 [11:38] heh [11:41] well, when's 11.04 due, and when's 11.10 due [11:41] make it 11.10, get it ahead of scheudle [11:41] brb [11:41] wrst: trying to download a good chunck of the repo to my hdd [11:42] over 7 hours straight now [11:42] it's a big job [11:43] ouch that's a lot [11:43] haow large is it? [11:43] so far, of expected target [11:43] s/of/or [11:44] 16G so far [11:44] 90G or more expected [11:45] so yeah, it'll be awhile [11:46] wrst: ^^ [11:48] your isp may report you :) [11:50] man.. the cat just ripped open our big bag of rice and spilled it all over the floor [11:50] my isp may report me to who [11:50] themselves [11:51] makes me want to start eating meat [11:51] and I don't think they'll yank me instantly [11:51] ideally by the time they notice and care, it'll be done and then some [11:51] do they limit you cyberanger ? [11:52] abuse policies, sooner or later any isp will nail you for it [11:52] but do they cite a number outright, no [11:53] unlimited is unlimited [11:54] until it's not [11:54] fine print [11:55] you just gotta be really high to get axed by charter or comcast noadays [11:55] but 90G would be high [11:56] how mush traffic does wow or other online games generate ? [11:57] I doubt 15G in 7 hours [11:58] this isn't the first [11:58] have they said something before ? [11:59] I downloaded 10G in 36 hours, over sprint (testing Virgin Mobile's wording at the time, when everyone then was calling 5G standard) [11:59] and they did nothing [11:59] charter has said nothing [12:00] but actions speak louder than words too, so... [12:00] yeah [12:00] (note, I'm not worried) [12:01] what speed did you get with virgin mobile ? [12:01] don't recall [12:01] but I know I stopped and started the download [12:02] to simulate watching hulu, and more normal downloads like that [12:03] i dont think hulu goes over 450 k [12:03] well.. maybe now with the hulu plus [12:03] really, are you counting the video [12:03] a half hour, or 45 minutes [12:03] for a show [12:03] im thinking of droping netflix for hulu [12:04] or just the html [12:04] html is only a few k tho [12:05] yes, but the video is not 450 k [12:05] hulus videos are a bit large for the quality [12:05] reasonable quality [12:05] just flash on linux sucks [12:05] well, overall flash sucks [12:06] i dont have that much of a problem with it [12:06] other than fullscreen with compiz [12:07] your quality issue, flash [12:07] thats them tho.. [12:07] youtube is allot better [12:07] it doesn't render as nicely as a video stream and vlc [12:08] lol no.. [12:08] and youtube has html5 support too, so it might be better cause it's not flash [12:08] iv never gotten that to work [12:09] 720 and 1080 on youtube are just mp4 files tho [12:09] the lack of any drm [12:10] and look in /tmp [12:10] and look in /tmp/FlashXX* [12:10] for youtube ? [12:10] yep [12:10] buffer's nicely, real nice ;-) [12:11] they have a few userscripts for greesemonky that put download links on the page [12:11] it downloads the mp4 right off the servers [12:14] yeah, but in linux, that's pointless [12:14] they hand it to you already [12:14] look in /tmp/FlashXX* [12:14] why download twice [12:15] the first one isnt always the highest quality [12:15] well, stop it before it fully buffers [12:15] and then it's deleted from /tmp/ [12:15] and buffers again [12:17] i can just right click save with the script and its saved as the title in mp4 formate .. [12:19] yes.. mp4 formate lol [12:19] it's mp4 format my way too [12:19] codec wise [12:20] but you have to leave the browser [12:20] what does your bot do ? [12:23] AUTOMATED MSG:Absoultely Nothing [12:24] oh [12:24] heh [12:24] just automated message sending atm [12:24] which is all I needed anyhow [12:27] combind it with chanserv, the idea is to cycle out topic of a channel with random quotes [12:28] thats cool [12:29] yeah, I like it [12:30] hmm.. nominal traffic on this laptop including irc in 15 channels and im with no chat sessions is around 1.5 meg a hour. [12:30] thought it would be more than that [12:33] well, irc is minimal [12:33] chris4585 said 30M a month [12:34] and I've seen similar myself [12:34] wow japan has IV Drip Bars [12:34] they are located in busy train stations and shopping areas [12:35] i wonder what qualifications you need to run one .. [12:35] if you could get a shot of alcohol that would be nice [12:37] just a shot? [12:38] well if its right into your blood stream i think thats all you would need [12:40] vodka or scotch [12:40] would it matter ? [12:40] you couldnt taste it [12:40] exactly why it matters [12:40] I'm not sticking scotch into my arm [12:41] lol [12:41] too fine, miss the taste [12:41] there is alot of cheap vodka though [12:43] * chibihogoshino wonders if he should update xfce to 4.8 [12:43] alough, we're talking japan, I'm guessing sake [12:43] some sake isnt to bad [12:44] warm is better tho [12:44] chibihogoshino: or upgrade to lxde ;-) [12:44] that would be a reinstall tho [12:46] Facebook has announced that developers of Facebook apps can now gather the personal contact information from their users. [12:48] cyberanger: i have a question when you have un momento [12:48] and chibihogoshino that's scary :\ [12:48] yeah [12:48] wrst: what's up [12:49] cyberanger: need your opinion on a desktop for a computer that has one purpose to record audio using audacity [12:49] i guess actually distro and everything [12:49] thinking ubuntu with fluxbox or something like that? [12:50] how involved do you need the setup to be [12:50] just need audacity and a very simple file manager to drag them over to a usb stick or to a ssh mounted drive [12:50] cyberanger: don't really care, I had considered something like arch and just install what i need but would like it to be stable [12:50] so an ubuntu cli install [12:50] and a very small amount of packages [12:50] sounds good to me [12:51] what DE would you suggest? [12:51] openbox [12:51] that sounds good, where do you find the cli install? [12:52] alternate or minimal install cd [12:52] ok cool how do you do that from an alternate install, I think you have told me before cyberanger? :) [12:53] f4, go from normal to cli [12:53] hit install [12:54] oh wow so just boot up the alt cd then hit f4? easy enough :) [12:54] anything there that is unexpected? [12:54] hit alt f4 wit a mini menu [12:54] nothing unexpected [12:55] just apt-get packages [12:55] so apt-get openbox? will that pull in xorg and everythign? [12:55] xinit openbox slim nitrogen tint2 obmenu [12:56] audacity [12:56] wow cool [12:56] misspelled that one [12:56] whoops [12:56] * wrst willl need this in scrollback :) [12:56] alsa-utils [12:56] i will probably do this sometime saturday [12:56] that should be the absoulte minimum [12:56] oh, pcmanfm [12:57] that;s it [12:57] i have this already on a machine its a dual core machine with 1GB of ram but sometimes we record a couple hours of stuff and with gnome and compiz and everything else its a little much [12:58] technicaally that's a little more than bare minimum, but still slim [12:59] yeah that would be great [12:59] i'm looking forward to the setup and that also avoids pulse audio [12:59] oh, sshfs [13:00] oh yes gotta have that to link to my drive at home :) [13:00] and do you need a network manager [13:00] for wifi [13:00] wired network cyberanger [13:00] ah, then no need ;-) [13:00] actually a wire plugged into a repeater/router but as far as ubuntu is concerned its wired :) [13:01] yeah :) [13:01] yeah, it'll do a dhclient setup, or you can scrap that too for a static setup [13:01] i have never set up ubuntu like this so this will be fun [13:01] yeah not such a big deal dhcp will be fine [13:02] but static is not big deal just a quick edit [13:02] i will probably go with 10.04 i don't want the latest and greatest just stable and steady [13:02] but you can strip out dhcp if it's useless [13:03] the old crunchbang really proved how simple it was [13:03]