[04:49] <superfly> GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING!
[05:07] <kbmonkey> morning all. 
[05:08] <kbmonkey> weekends just fly past, don't they :p
[05:14] <superfly> ohi kbmonkey
[05:17] <kbmonkey> hi superfly 
[05:17] <Kilos> hiya superfly kbmonkey and all early birds
[05:18]  * kbmonkey thinks its too early even after years of waking up this time ^^
[05:18] <Kilos> lol
[05:20] <superfly> morning Kilos
[05:31] <Kilos> one question
[05:31] <Kilos> when you do updates do the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives get updated
[06:10] <superfly> Kilos: you mean when you download and upgrade your packages?
[06:10] <Kilos> yes superfly once that has been done are all those packages updayed ones
[06:11] <Kilos> updated
[06:11] <Kilos> lo dwidge nlsthzn 
[06:13] <Kilos> or upgraded. i get mixed up tween the two
[06:14] <nlsthzn> Kilos: alo :)
[06:35] <Kilos> morning maiatoday 
[06:47] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[06:49] <superfly> Kilos: update = read the lists on the repositories and make sure the local list is up-to-date
[06:49] <superfly> Kilos: upgrade = download packages and upgrade your software
[06:51] <Kilos> ty superfly so if i save that whole cache to the external and then do a clean install and copy them back they will just need to be installed without downloading anything?
[06:51] <Kilos> aptitude or apt-get
[06:52] <Owkkuri> yup
[06:52] <Kilos> i did a clean install to start with so surely updates are all that needs doing
[06:52] <Owkkuri> Kilos: what we do here, seeing as myself & Superhuman both use ubuntu
[06:52] <Kilos> hi owk
[06:52] <Owkkuri> he runs a cache and I DL the packages from him
[06:53] <Kilos> ah ty Owkkuri  this bandwidth thing is a pain
[06:54] <Owkkuri> aye
[07:18] <sakhi> morning
[07:58] <Hodgestar> \
[08:30] <morgs> .
[08:32] <superfly> ohi morgs
[08:32] <morgs> ohi superfly 
[08:33] <superfly> morgs: did you ever get my e-mail?
[08:34] <morgs> superfly, let me check that inbox
[08:35] <morgs> superfly, found it now, will reply, sorry for the delay :)
[08:35] <superfly> np
[08:40] <Symmetria> lol @ my lawyer
[08:40] <Symmetria> I told him "Sue this guy, and tell him we'll settle for 100k USD since thats cheaper than him fighitng it"
[08:41] <Symmetria> lawyer sends me a note "Upped our settlement figure to 250k since thats still way cheaper than him fighting it, and he cant win the case, there is no hope of him winning it"
[08:48] <superfly> ah, but Symmetria, what does your lawyer make out of it :-P
[08:55] <Symmetria> superfly 10% of whatever we make
[08:55] <Symmetria> :P
[08:56] <superfly> Symmetria: it was a rhetorical question
[08:56] <Symmetria> heh have neat deal with lawyer, if we make nothing, I dont pay
[08:56] <Symmetria> if we make something, he gets 10% 
[08:56] <Symmetria> :P lotsa incentive for him
[16:06] <Kilos> Owkkuri, you busy
[16:06] <Owkkuri> sup?
[16:07] <Kilos> i have copied all the cache to  new maverick but it still want s to run to the internaet for everything
[16:08] <Kilos> is there some command i must run to make it is its own cache
[16:08] <Owkkuri> hmmm
[16:08] <Kilos> or is there a way i can tell it to use my external as the repo
[16:08] <Owkkuri> mot sure
[16:08] <Owkkuri> not*
[16:08] <Kilos> lol
[16:09] <Owkkuri> well what ever the list says is the latest file is downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archive or w/e
[16:09] <Kilos> i can install one at a time from the external then it needs dependancies and then i have to go find that first
[16:09] <Kilos> hehe
[16:09] <Owkkuri> if the file is already there it'll skip over it
[16:10] <Kilos> w/e ??
[16:10] <Owkkuri> whatever :P
[16:10] <Kilos> hehe
[16:11] <Owkkuri> i think that's the dir
[16:11] <Owkkuri> also, the cache will only be useful to you if you've got the same software installed that you had
[16:11] <Owkkuri> if that makes sense
[16:12] <Kilos> when you actually copy to the external it shows everything as packages but when using cli to see the cache then half the stuff not
[16:12] <Kilos> there
[16:12] <Kilos> hehe
[16:12] <Kilos> and there are 732 of them
[16:12] <Owkkuri> also i think they need to be owned by root
[16:13] <Kilos> ok ty i keep trying
[16:13] <Kilos> maybe install all the lib files first
[16:13] <Owkkuri> nah, just do apt-get update
[16:14] <Owkkuri> and then apt-get upgrade
[16:14] <Owkkuri> it should use the files you've put in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[16:14] <Kilos> its not gonna want to go internet?
[16:14] <Kilos> ok i will try that ty
[16:14] <Kilos> lol
[16:14] <Owkkuri> it's shouldn't :P
[16:14] <Owkkuri> maybe it'll DL a few
[16:14] <Owkkuri> updates since you last DL'd stuff
[16:15] <Kilos> i am not sure i have everything in cache
[16:15] <Owkkuri> in theory if i copy the packages from my ubuntu server to my ubuntu desktop, it should use some of them
[16:15] <Kilos> i reversed the command
[16:15] <Kilos> but often do things wrong
[16:15] <Kilos> yes thats what i thought
[16:16] <Owkkuri> :)
[16:16] <Kilos> hehe
[16:16] <Kilos> ty
[16:17] <Owkkuri> np
[16:17] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[16:38] <Kilos> aw, i know what i did wrong
[16:38] <Kilos> in archives everything is in the folder packs
[16:40] <Kilos> need to sort the command out so everything is in archives not archives/packs
[16:50] <Owkkuri> ah
[16:51] <Owkkuri> you could try mv
[16:51] <Kilos> lol. told you i always do something wrong
[16:51] <Owkkuri> :P
[16:51] <Kilos> mv?
[16:51] <Owkkuri> I think mv /var/cache/apt/archives/packs/* /var/cache/apt/archives/ 
[16:51] <Owkkuri> should work
[16:51] <Kilos> wont it work if i do /media/storage/packs/*
[16:52] <Owkkuri> could do that too
[16:52] <Kilos> i left off the /*
[16:52] <Owkkuri> ah
[16:52] <Owkkuri> so you copied the dir and not just it's contents
[16:52] <Kilos> yeah man
[16:52] <Kilos> eina
[16:52] <Kilos> twice
[19:26] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight