| moses_ | from my laptop | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| James147 | moses_: you might need to enable it/change the boot order in the bios first | 00:00 |
| James147 | (or hit the magic key that lets you pick from which device you want to boot bypassing the bios order :) ) | 00:00 |
| moses_ | yeah | 00:01 |
| moses_ | i see that | 00:01 |
| moses_ | but i dont know what the devices are | 00:01 |
| moses_ | nvm | 00:02 |
| moses_ | google is my friend | 00:02 |
| moses_ | toshiba portege | 00:02 |
| === mren is now known as mren|off | ||
| moses_ | what is FDD? | 00:10 |
| Daskreech | Floppy Disk Device | 00:11 |
| moses_ | so theres no option to boot from USB | 00:11 |
| moses_ | im screwed | 00:11 |
| moses_ | i downloaded the 10.10 stable iso for kubuntu | 00:14 |
| moses_ | and im burning it | 00:14 |
| moses_ | is that my best option? | 00:14 |
| Daskreech | the tablet can't boot from USB? | 00:16 |
| moses_ | nope | 00:16 |
| moses_ | i dont see where to do it | 00:16 |
| e_t_ | moses_: The option isn't always obvious. On my computers, I have to have the USB drive plugged in, then select it as a hard drive to boot from in the BIOS. | 00:21 |
| moses_ | ok | 00:22 |
| moses_ | but it doesnt look for hard drives | 00:22 |
| moses_ | it just has generic HDD | 00:22 |
| Daskreech | moses_: Yeah I was about to say some devices don't show the options till you have it connected | 00:24 |
| moses_ | this should be fun | 00:29 |
| moses_ | i hope the boot works | 00:29 |
| phoenix_firebrd | what is the package name for kde development libraries | 00:32 |
| James147 | kdelibs5-dev i think | 00:32 |
| phoenix_firebrd | James147: when i try to install, it says the package is not signed. is it ok? | 00:33 |
| James147 | phoenix_firebrd: probally ^^ but you really should fix that before you try to install :p | 00:34 |
| phoenix_firebrd | James147: kubuntu ppa is enabled. is it because of that? | 00:34 |
| James147 | phoenix_firebrd: more then likly, looks like your missing the gpg keys for it ^^ | 00:35 |
| James147 | phoenix_firebrd: try running "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa" (assuming thats the repo you added) ... that should attempt to download the gpg keys again | 00:36 |
| phoenix_firebrd | James147: it had already downloaded the gpg key. this is happening only for this package | 00:37 |
| James147 | phoenix_firebrd: hmm | 00:37 |
| phoenix_firebrd | James147: shall i install it? | 00:37 |
| James147 | that dosent sound good | 00:37 |
| James147 | phoenix_firebrd: i Would be wary... | 00:37 |
| phoenix_firebrd | James147: virus? | 00:37 |
| James147 | its possible ... | 00:37 |
| James147 | phoenix_firebrd: you could try changing your mirror... | 00:38 |
| phoenix_firebrd | James147: shall i add the ppa again and try? | 00:39 |
| James147 | not sure if that will help if you already have the key ^^ (though it shouldnt hurt) I would also try changing your mirror | 00:40 |
| phoenix_firebrd | James147: can you see any keys for the ppa in here "http://imagebin.org/133138" | 00:43 |
| James147 | probally the kubuntu updates, but i am not sure | 00:44 |
| phoenix_firebrd | James147: is there a possibly that the package in ppa may not be signed? | 00:48 |
| moses_ | this laptop is no good | 00:48 |
| moses_ | i think i should try a lan boot | 00:48 |
| James147 | phoenix_firebrd: its possible... but I do not know why it wouldnt be... I suggest you try changing mirror.. if that dosent help you could try asking on #kubuntu-devel | 00:51 |
| phoenix_firebrd | James147: changed the mirror, i will try and see if it works, if not i will refer to people in kubuntu-devel. thank you for the support | 00:58 |
| poyntz | is there any way to make rekonq better? like plugins, addons, etc.. | 00:58 |
| James147 | poyntz: dont think it supports plugins atm... | 00:59 |
| poyntz | ty | 00:59 |
| * James147 thinks the latest version from the git repos is better then the stable version though... but still needs allot of work | 00:59 | |
| poyntz | ahh link me pls | 01:00 |
| James147 | ^^ not a simple like :) it would envolve compiling the program from source | 01:00 |
| poyntz | ack no ppa =S | 01:01 |
| James147 | poyntz: probally not... at least not will be becomes stable :) | 01:01 |
| poyntz | James147: what version is it? | 01:02 |
| James147 | poyntz: atm i have 0.6.60 | 01:02 |
| poyntz | tnx | 01:02 |
| poyntz | thnx | 01:03 |
| James147 | 0.6.1 was the latest stable as far as I know | 01:03 |
| poyntz | is making a ppa hard? i kinda expected it to have a ppa =S | 01:05 |
| James147 | poyntz: dont know about that... dont think so... but why do you expect unstable software to have a ppa? | 01:06 |
| poyntz | didn't you say 0.6.1 was the latest stable? | 01:06 |
| poyntz | oo damn | 01:07 |
| James147 | poyntz: yeah, and isent that included with the latest version of kubuntu? | 01:07 |
| poyntz | thats the one i've got haha | 01:07 |
| poyntz | yep | 01:07 |
| poyntz | or the latest kde.. not sure which | 01:07 |
| James147 | dont think its part of kde | 01:07 |
| poyntz | wasnt konqueror | 01:08 |
| rww | !info rekonq maverick | 01:08 |
| ubottu | rekonq (source: rekonq): KDE web browser based on Webkit. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.1-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 1150 kB, installed size 2132 kB | 01:08 |
| poyntz | [offtopic] if ya get ya connection rejected on an irc network, try using a different port | 01:19 |
| poyntz | works wonders.. | 01:19 |
| === bbigras_ is now known as bbigras | ||
| moses_ | is there a way to install linux from inside windows? | 02:23 |
| Daskreech | moses_: yes I suppose | 02:26 |
| Daskreech | wubi | 02:26 |
| moses_ | how? | 02:26 |
| Daskreech | !wubi | 02:26 |
| ubottu | Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Maverick/10.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/wubi.exe | 02:26 |
| moses_ | is it effective? | 02:27 |
| Daskreech | Quite | 02:27 |
| moses_ | alright | 02:34 |
| moses_ | now | 02:34 |
| moses_ | if i unstall ubuntu via wubi | 02:34 |
| moses_ | will i be able to delete windows and occupy that spacve? | 02:34 |
| moses_ | space? | 02:34 |
| rtdos | is there a reason kopete is taking up 88-93 percent of my processor time? | 02:34 |
| Daskreech | moses_: no it will be installed in a directory under windows like any other programm | 02:42 |
| moses_ | that is going to suck | 02:43 |
| moses_ | does anyone know how to reformat via lan? | 02:46 |
| === senekis_ is now known as senekis | ||
| dannyLopez | how I can unistall all gnome desk | 02:48 |
| dannyLopez | i kubuntu | 02:48 |
| Dragnslcr | dannyLopez- install the ubuntu-desktop package | 02:48 |
| dannyLopez | Dragnslcr: I have ubuntu whit gnome but I change to kubuntu (kubuntu-desktop) but now I want uninstall all gnome desktop | 02:50 |
| Dragnslcr | Oh, uninstall. Sorry, I misread that | 02:51 |
| Dragnslcr | !purekde | 02:51 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » | 02:51 |
| dannyLopez | this page only show me the ubuntu 9.10 I have 10.10 | 02:51 |
| Dragnslcr | Should be pretty much the same | 02:52 |
| Dragnslcr | At least the automatic removal would be | 02:52 |
| moses_ | can you boot kubuntu from online? | 02:58 |
| moses_ | or only lan? | 02:58 |
| rtdos | couple of questions: why is kopete taking up 88-93 percent of my cpu and i ran both "sudo apt-get remove --purge" for both "ubuntu-desktop" and "gnome-desktop-environment" and I still have gnome and ubuntu on my system. how do i totally remove gnome and ubuntu/gnome from my system ? | 03:00 |
| Daskreech | moses_: hmm? without ssh? :) | 03:04 |
| Daskreech | rtdos: plugin I would suppose | 03:05 |
| Daskreech | moses_: You can boot from a LAN I think | 03:05 |
| Daskreech | !purekde > rtdos | 03:05 |
| ubottu | rtdos, please see my private message | 03:05 |
| rtdos | plugin Daskreech? how do i get purekde? | 03:05 |
| rtdos | oh, ok, thanks Daskreech | 03:06 |
| Daskreech | rtdos: Plugin for Kopete | 03:06 |
| rtdos | would there be a way to tell which plugin ? or ? | 03:07 |
| Daskreech | umm no for me it was the history plugin | 03:07 |
| Daskreech | went nuts | 03:07 |
| moses_ | ok | 03:12 |
| moses_ | does kubuntu have a netboot? | 03:12 |
| moses_ | because ubuntu does | 03:13 |
| valorie | yes | 03:14 |
| moses_ | ok | 03:14 |
| moses_ | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KubuntuNetboot | 03:14 |
| valorie | when you install on a netbook, that's the interface you get | 03:15 |
| moses_ | is that where the files for kubuntu netboot are? | 03:15 |
| valorie | or you can change to that interface even in regular laptops | 03:15 |
| moses_ | this is my first netboot ever | 03:15 |
| moses_ | so | 03:15 |
| valorie | in 10.10 you don't need anything special | 03:15 |
| valorie | it's all built-in | 03:15 |
| moses_ | i still dont understand | 03:15 |
| moses_ | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot | 03:16 |
| moses_ | im following that | 03:16 |
| valorie | I'm sorry for the confusion | 03:16 |
| valorie | I thought you were talking about a netBOOK | 03:16 |
| moses_ | negative | 03:16 |
| valorie | I should read more carefully | 03:17 |
| valorie | my goodness that old kub netboot is old | 03:17 |
| valorie | probably moldy too | 03:18 |
| moses_ | thats the top google hit | 03:18 |
| valorie | looks like there is no kub-only netboot | 03:20 |
| moses_ | ok | 03:20 |
| valorie | you would ubuntu-netbook, then install KDE on top of that | 03:20 |
| moses_ | yeah | 03:20 |
| moses_ | think that turotial will suffice? | 03:20 |
| valorie | http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download is the current ISOs | 03:20 |
| moses_ | i have the ISO | 03:21 |
| valorie | moses_: as long as you are good at following directions in the console, you should be fine | 03:21 |
| moses_ | i am | 03:21 |
| valorie | cool | 03:21 |
| moses_ | but will that turotial work for a netboot? | 03:21 |
| moses_ | sorry val im a noob kinda | 03:22 |
| valorie | yes, if you are running a windows machine | 03:22 |
| moses_ | ok perfect | 03:22 |
| valorie | this is more general: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot | 03:24 |
| valorie | !netboot | 03:24 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate | 03:24 |
| valorie | heh | 03:24 |
| valorie | thanks, ubottu | 03:25 |
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| moses_ | has anyone here ever done a windows netboot? | 03:37 |
| e_t_ | Is that where you install Windows over the network? Or do you want to install Linux over the network from a Windows server? | 03:38 |
| moses_ | yeah | 03:39 |
| moses_ | i set it up | 03:39 |
| moses_ | but i cant get it to work | 03:39 |
| moses_ | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot | 03:39 |
| moses_ | my machine doesnt pick anything u | 03:39 |
| moses_ | u[ | 03:39 |
| moses_ | up* | 03:39 |
| e_t_ | Do you have any other DHCP servers on the network that might be intercepting address requests? | 03:41 |
| moses_ | my routers | 03:41 |
| moses_ | but | 03:42 |
| moses_ | this server im running has stuff in its log | 03:42 |
| moses_ | should i use bind DHCP to this address? | 03:42 |
| e_t_ | So you know for certain that the computer you're trying to boot is getting its information from the Windows machine? | 03:44 |
| moses_ | yes | 03:45 |
| moses_ | now i got a more complex error | 03:45 |
| moses_ | said file not found | 03:45 |
| moses_ | idk what file its looking for | 03:45 |
| moses_ | yeah here want to see my errors | 03:46 |
| moses_ | * egossett has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | 03:46 |
| moses_ | http://pastebin.com/L7guzG6h | 03:46 |
| moses_ | what file is it looking for? | 03:47 |
| moses_ | You may also have to copy pxelinux.0 to the netboot folder (instead of it's original home in '/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/'), if you get an error such as 'error 2 in system call CreateFile: The system cannot find the file specified' in TFTPD32's logs. | 03:47 |
| moses_ | i did copy it | 03:47 |
| moses_ | nvm | 03:48 |
| moses_ | let me retry | 03:48 |
| moses_ | i read wrong | 03:48 |
| e_t_ | It's looking for pxelinux.0 | 03:49 |
| moses_ | yeah | 03:50 |
| moses_ | i fixed it | 03:50 |
| moses_ | let me tell you i am loving this | 03:50 |
| moses_ | im kinda pissed that its only ubuntu | 03:50 |
| moses_ | but ill just install the KDE wm | 03:50 |
| moses_ | 10.10 is the newest ver of ubuntu also correct? | 03:52 |
| e_t_ | Correct. The next version will be out in April. | 03:53 |
| moses_ | now | 03:55 |
| moses_ | should i have picked advanced installation to delete the windows partition that is already on there | 03:55 |
| moses_ | or will i already be able to do that? | 03:55 |
| moses_ | now | 04:06 |
| moses_ | can i ask if anyone knows if i can install windows from a netboot | 04:07 |
| bagol | ayssh.. | 04:09 |
| e_t_ | moses_: It's not as easy as Linux. Google WAIK. | 04:10 |
| moses_ | lol hell no its not | 04:12 |
| moses_ | OMG | 04:12 |
| valorie | the only people who think Windows is easy to install are those who haven't done it | 04:17 |
| === sean is now known as Guest53565 | ||
| e_t_ | Windows 7 is pretty easy, but it takes a long time, especially considering how little you get when it's done. | 04:18 |
| moses_ | these methods are insane | 04:19 |
| moses_ | has anyone here done it before? | 04:19 |
| moses_ | does WAIK work for windows vista>? | 04:20 |
| e_t_ | If you get the vista version of WAIK. | 04:21 |
| moses_ | i mean windows XP | 04:21 |
| moses_ | im sorry | 04:21 |
| e_t_ | You might want to ask on ##windows or ##windows-server | 04:23 |
| dthacker | so what's the name of that twitter/identi.ca client that's installed by default. I closed it and and I can't find it to restart it | 04:41 |
| e_t_ | Choqok? Or do you mean the Plasma widget? | 04:42 |
| dthacker | e_t_: the plasma widget | 04:42 |
| e_t_ | It's titled Microblogging. | 04:44 |
| dthacker | under online services. thanks | 04:44 |
| dthacker | Has KDE 4.6 been released yet or are we still at RC2? | 04:45 |
| e_t_ | I don't think it's been released. You can check www.kde.org to see. | 04:45 |
| moses_ | i just passed the part of the installation where i select packages | 05:04 |
| moses_ | i didnt bother to grab anything right now | 05:04 |
| moses_ | is that ok? | 05:04 |
| dthacker | moses_: yes, if you have a network connection, you can always add later. | 05:05 |
| moses_ | cool | 05:05 |
| moses_ | and actually ubuntu asks if you want to make it into kubuntu | 05:05 |
| moses_ | did you know that? | 05:05 |
| valorie | nice! | 05:06 |
| valorie | I hadn't heard that | 05:06 |
| mjobin | dthacker: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.6_Release_Schedule | 05:30 |
| dthacker | mjobin: thanks, that what I was looking for.... | 05:30 |
| moses_ | how can install the driver for my graphics | 07:27 |
| moses_ | where can i find a list of the aps to download and run for kubuntu? | 07:33 |
| moses_ | i need to install this nvidia driver | 07:34 |
| poyntz | kpackagekit | 07:36 |
| poyntz | and search\ | 07:36 |
| moses_ | where? | 07:36 |
| poyntz | next to find by name you should see a field | 07:36 |
| poyntz | in that field type nvidia | 07:37 |
| poyntz | and hit enter | 07:37 |
| moses_ | wait im lost | 07:37 |
| moses_ | where am i doing this? | 07:37 |
| poyntz | Hold Alt + F2 | 07:37 |
| poyntz | in that field type kpackagekit | 07:38 |
| poyntz | hit enter | 07:38 |
| valorie | or the kmenu | 07:38 |
| moses_ | wow ty | 07:38 |
| moses_ | this is simple | 07:38 |
| moses_ | much easier than freeBSD | 07:38 |
| poyntz | moses_: np | 07:38 |
| moses_ | its running sooooo slow | 07:39 |
| moses_ | is that because the driver is not installed correct? | 07:39 |
| poyntz | what? | 07:39 |
| moses_ | my kubuntu | 07:39 |
| moses_ | is loading the gui very slowly | 07:39 |
| poyntz | you might have outdated linux-image packages | 07:39 |
| moses_ | i just lan booted 10.10 | 07:40 |
| moses_ | hmmm theres a ton of entries | 07:40 |
| poyntz | the latest would be the best | 07:40 |
| moses_ | should i get nvidia-current? | 07:40 |
| poyntz | personally, i installed the latest off the site | 07:40 |
| moses_ | i dont think im that skilled yet | 07:41 |
| poyntz | the latest driver will be on the site | 07:41 |
| poyntz | it's up to you | 07:41 |
| moses_ | ill check it out | 07:41 |
| poyntz | do you know how to use a console? | 07:42 |
| poyntz | id suggest you get familiar with this before using versions from the distributor | 07:43 |
| poyntz | every time i've upgraded the linux-image files i've had to reinstall my graphics driver to see the kde desktop | 07:44 |
| poyntz | if you stick to packages from the official repositories this shouldn't be as much of an issue | 07:44 |
| moses | internet died | 07:51 |
| moses | anyhow | 07:51 |
| moses | im going to download the driver now | 07:51 |
| moses | but i have an older card | 07:51 |
| moses | how can i use kubuntu to find out what my graphics card is? | 07:53 |
| valorie | System Settings > Hardware | 07:57 |
| moses | i see that | 07:57 |
| moses | but i do not see a list | 07:58 |
| valorie | hmmm | 07:58 |
| valorie | there is always lspci in the console | 07:58 |
| moses | ill do that | 07:58 |
| valorie | !graphics | 07:58 |
| valorie | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-tell-which-graphics-vga-card-installed/ | 07:59 |
| moses | how do i pop open a console? | 08:01 |
| valorie | I use konsole, myself | 08:05 |
| valorie | although there are other choices | 08:05 |
| moses | i havent set my root password i dont think | 08:05 |
| valorie | and I've just put the icon down in the taskbar, since I use it all the time | 08:05 |
| valorie | k/ubuntu uses sudo | 08:06 |
| valorie | not root as such | 08:06 |
| valorie | and you set up a pw when you installed | 08:06 |
| valorie | !sudo | 08:06 |
| ubottu | sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo | 08:06 |
| moses | this OS is amazing | 08:09 |
| moses | how do i use the console to install this .run file | 08:11 |
| valorie | .run file? | 08:12 |
| e_t_ | moses: (probably) "sudo ./file.run" | 08:12 |
| valorie | normally to run an app, you can just type the name and return | 08:12 |
| valorie | oh, a script | 08:13 |
| * valorie will shut up | 08:13 | |
| moses | what is that syntax | 08:15 |
| moses | should i cd to that dir? | 08:15 |
| crisco_ | YOOOOOOOO | 08:16 |
| moses | it doesnt like the command | 08:18 |
| e_t_ | What error do you get? | 08:18 |
| moses | command not found | 08:18 |
| moses | and when i try that without the sudo | 08:19 |
| moses | it says permission denied | 08:19 |
| e_t_ | Post the output of "ls -l file.run" | 08:19 |
| === administrateur is now known as Wouam | ||
| Wouam | Hi! | 08:20 |
| moses | ls: cannot access file.run: No such file or directory | 08:20 |
| e_t_ | You have to use the actual name of the file. | 08:21 |
| moses | NVIDIA.run | 08:21 |
| moses | is the output | 08:22 |
| poyntz | moses: type sudo sh NVIDIA.run | 08:22 |
| poyntz | then enter your password | 08:22 |
| moses | its running <3 | 08:22 |
| moses | whats that command? | 08:22 |
| moses | sh? | 08:23 |
| moses | says error must be run as root | 08:23 |
| Wouam | coucou | 08:23 |
| moses | i forgot the sudo | 08:23 |
| Wouam | I found the map to the candy mountain | 08:24 |
| moses | i dont have the package binutils | 08:24 |
| Wouam | epic fail ... >_<" | 08:24 |
| moses | installed | 08:24 |
| e_t_ | moses: I assume you're trying to install the nVidia graphics drivers? | 08:24 |
| Wouam | install it | 08:24 |
| poyntz | you'll need admin privs for it to install anything | 08:24 |
| Wouam | sudo apt get | 08:24 |
| Wouam | dub | 08:24 |
| poyntz | moses: let me know how it goes | 08:25 |
| moses | e_t_, indeed i am | 08:26 |
| poyntz | moses: also you may have to close X server.. | 08:26 |
| poyntz | moses: if this is the case, try restarting kubuntu in graphics mode and dropping to a command shell | 08:26 |
| poyntz | or root shell | 08:26 |
| poyntz | and then running sudo sh NVIDIA.run from the directory you put it in | 08:27 |
| e_t_ | moses: Why not install it from the repositories? That will take care of dependencies automatically. | 08:27 |
| moses | i dont know which one to install | 08:27 |
| moses | its a really odd card | 08:27 |
| e_t_ | What's the card number? | 08:27 |
| poyntz | moses: the latest will be on the site.. also check for 64bit/32bit... most supported for ubuntu will be in the repositories.. | 08:29 |
| moses | its | 08:30 |
| moses | a GeForce FX Go5200 | 08:30 |
| moses | the site only had a 64 | 08:30 |
| poyntz | do you have 64bit kubuntu? | 08:31 |
| moses | nope | 08:31 |
| poyntz | it won't work | 08:31 |
| poyntz | you need the latest 32bit for linux | 08:31 |
| e_t_ | moses: You want the nvidia-173 package in the repos. | 08:32 |
| moses | it says i have nvidia-173-modaliases installed | 08:33 |
| moses | should i install the nvidia-173 | 08:33 |
| moses | yes i should | 08:33 |
| poyntz | moses: sudo apt-get install nvidia-173-* | 08:33 |
| poyntz | moses: from a command line | 08:34 |
| moses | i grabbed it from the gui | 08:34 |
| moses | hopwfully this will speed things up | 08:34 |
| poyntz | either way is fine | 08:34 |
| poyntz | shell is more reliable | 08:34 |
| moses | yeah i need to use shell always | 08:34 |
| moses | you think this will speed things up? | 08:35 |
| moses | my gui? | 08:35 |
| poyntz | i'd try the gui | 08:35 |
| poyntz | if you have any problems uninstall and try shell | 08:35 |
| moses | ok | 08:35 |
| moses | my gui is really slow | 08:35 |
| moses | the fading and the opening and closing | 08:35 |
| moses | please let this be why | 08:35 |
| moses | btw | 08:37 |
| e_t_ | The trick with the nvidia package is that, once it's installed, you have to boot to the console (I've used recovery mode for this) and run nvidia-xconfig (as root) to configure the xorg.conf file properly. | 08:37 |
| moses | ok | 08:37 |
| moses | how to boot to console? | 08:37 |
| valorie | control - alt f4 usually | 08:38 |
| valorie | and for me it's control - alt f7 to get back | 08:39 |
| valorie | experiment | 08:39 |
| valorie | :-) | 08:39 |
| jhohn | thats a normal change to console, not boot to console | 08:39 |
| valorie | you don't have to boot in and out usually | 08:39 |
| e_t_ | You really need to reboot after installing the nvidia driver because it creates a kernel module. | 08:40 |
| jhohn | kernel modules can be loaded into a running kernel | 08:40 |
| moses | ok but how to enter the console after boot and edit the nvidia x config? | 08:40 |
| jhohn | you get to console with Ctrl-Alt-<F1> (F1 to F6 usually) | 08:42 |
| jhohn | then get root | 08:42 |
| jhohn | and load the nvidia module with "modprobe -i nvidia" | 08:43 |
| e_t_ | Reboot the computer and press and hold Shift to bring up the GRUB menu. Choose the recovery mode option (probably second). You will be presented with a menu. Scroll down 'til you see root prompt. Enter "nvidia-xconfig" there. | 08:43 |
| jhohn | then run "nvidia-xconfig" | 08:43 |
| moses | wow | 08:44 |
| moses | my computer tweaked out | 08:44 |
| e_t_ | nvidia-xconfig cannot be run while the x server is running. That's part of why I suggested the reboot. | 08:44 |
| moses | ok | 08:45 |
| moses | so i started the computer in recovery mode | 08:45 |
| moses | where is that config file? | 08:46 |
| e_t_ | If you're at the root prompt, you should be able to enter just nvidia-xconfig. | 08:47 |
| moses | it made a new config file | 08:47 |
| e_t_ | That is correct. | 08:47 |
| moses | now what? | 08:47 |
| moses | change to that? | 08:47 |
| e_t_ | give the command "shutdown -r now" to reboot. You don't need recovery mode this time. | 08:48 |
| moses | what did that do? | 08:48 |
| moses | it generated a config file | 08:48 |
| moses | but will that fix my problem? | 08:49 |
| e_t_ | It created the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf. This file is a configuration for the X server. The nvidia program gives it the approiate settings to use the nvidia graphics driver. | 08:49 |
| moses | yeah | 08:50 |
| moses | it seems like its much faster | 08:50 |
| e_t_ | It *should* give you snappier graphics performance and 3D effects. | 08:50 |
| moses | do you think xubuntu takes a while to start up? | 08:50 |
| e_t_ | I haven't used it in a few versions. | 08:51 |
| moses | much faster | 08:51 |
| moses | YAYA | 08:51 |
| Vipermad | народ кто нить варку запускал через гарену? | 09:57 |
| Tm_T | !ru | Vipermad | 09:57 |
| ubottu | Vipermad: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke | 09:57 |
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| Matisse | hi | 11:53 |
| Matisse | KDE often starts without a taskbar. What can I do? | 11:53 |
| Matisse | Google only shows results which do not help me (very old; wrong commands) | 11:54 |
| === james is now known as Guest37289 | ||
| Matisse | typing "kicker" into konsole doesn't help, "dcop kicker kicker restart" neither, because it seems to be no dcop running | 11:56 |
| Matisse | "kpanel" isn't working too | 11:57 |
| Matisse | what now? | 11:58 |
| Matisse | any idea? | 11:58 |
| Matisse | for me? | 11:58 |
| Matisse | hello? | 11:59 |
| Matisse | ECHO!! | 11:59 |
| Matisse | Echo! | 11:59 |
| Matisse | echo | 11:59 |
| Matisse | e... | 11:59 |
| FloodBotK2 | Matisse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 11:59 |
| Matisse | .... | 11:59 |
| frogonwheels | Matisse: that kinda behvaiour will get you kicked out :) | 12:00 |
| frogonwheels | Matisse: or incur the wrath of the FloodBot! | 12:00 |
| * Matisse silent | 12:00 | |
| Matisse | :) | 12:00 |
| frogonwheels | Matisse: are the general window decorations present? is there the palette on the desktop corner for desktop settings? | 12:01 |
| Matisse | yes, both present | 12:01 |
| Matisse | adding a new taskbar doesnt help | 12:01 |
| frogonwheels | Matisse: kicker has been integrated.. not a seprate app. | 12:01 |
| Matisse | that means? | 12:02 |
| Matisse | ok, typing "kicker" wont do anything | 12:02 |
| Matisse | true :) | 12:02 |
| Matisse | frogonwheels, but then there must be a command like "dcop kicker..." to do that task, right? | 12:03 |
| frogonwheels | Matisse: hmm.. qdbus would the da word | 12:13 |
| frogonwheels | the da *sigh* | 12:14 |
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| husen | hai | 12:34 |
| husen | test | 12:34 |
| husen | ada yg liat chat saya ? | 12:35 |
| husen | ;D | 12:35 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 13:06 |
| divinefury | hello | 13:17 |
| jhohn | !hello | divinefury | 13:25 |
| xtremek | Hello everyone | 13:38 |
| susundberg | hello | 13:39 |
| xtremek | I'm using Quassel on Kubuntu; but I can't figure out how to add the irc.kde.org network | 13:39 |
| xtremek | Do you know how? | 13:39 |
| susundberg | no, sorry. i prefer irssi | 13:40 |
| xtremek | OK | 13:40 |
| xtremek | So what stuff goes on in this channel? | 13:40 |
| susundberg | mostly heavy idling | 13:41 |
| xtremek | OK cool | 13:41 |
| xtremek | So I'll do the same! | 13:41 |
| yofel_ | xtremek: go to Settings -> configure quassel -> irc -> networks and add the network there | 13:48 |
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| xtremek | Ahh OK | 13:48 |
| xtremek | Thanks! | 13:48 |
| adamj | I installed chrome from googles deb (more fool me - as i already have a nice working copy of chromium) although i have since used system settings to set my default browser back to firefox - links in say thunderbird still open in chrome - it has even nicked the filezilla->edit on .html files - having also tried teh file associations I am at a loss - is it possible that gnome file associations... | 13:50 |
| adamj | ...are stored else where - and thunderbird is obeying them ?? - HELP | 13:51 |
| susundberg | doesnt thunderbird say when you assign that these settings are stored in place X and you can change them by .... | 13:52 |
| susundberg | at least i think some version did | 13:52 |
| susundberg | edit->preferences->attachements at least contain some | 13:53 |
| adamj | they are all set to ask - and are all file type based rather than protocol | 13:54 |
| susundberg | Huh, i have http there | 13:59 |
| ale` | hi, how can I connect to a wireless network on boot? | 13:59 |
| susundberg | thats no file type, right | 13:59 |
| adamj | right | 13:59 |
| adamj | either way - still want to find out what / how chrome does | 14:01 |
| susundberg | ale`: you mean after system has booted, but before user has logged in? | 14:01 |
| ale` | susundberg: yes. | 14:02 |
| ale` | The system-connection option in the network connections panel in systemsettings is greyed out :-/ | 14:03 |
| bigbrovar_ | anyone else getting ibus problem on KUbuntu just about every application I start gives this error "no connection to ibus-daemon " | 14:03 |
| susundberg | ale`: i would say you need to use /etc/network/interfaces but not sure | 14:03 |
| susundberg | at least that was used to do what you want | 14:03 |
| susundberg | but it might be outdated | 14:03 |
| ale` | susundberg: that's what I was thinking, as there actually is an option "system connection" in the wifi settings :-/ | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | ale`, what kind of connection, wifi or ethernet? | 14:04 |
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| BluesKaj | ok wifi , got it , ale` | 14:05 |
| susundberg | ale`: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=899421 ? | 14:07 |
| susundberg | so it should be possible from there .. | 14:07 |
| FloodBotK2 | !netsplit | 14:08 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 14:08 |
| ale` | susundberg: that directory was there already :-/ | 14:08 |
| ale` | I don't get an error when saving the connection as system wide. I can't set it as system wide instead, because the option is greyed out :-/ | 14:09 |
| susundberg | ya | 14:11 |
| susundberg | sorry dont know | 14:11 |
| susundberg | google and ask forum maybe? | 14:11 |
| divinefury | wot wifi adapter do u have?? | 14:11 |
| ale` | susundberg: I was already googling before coming here of course. I even tried a fix proposed in the arch forums, to no avail. | 14:12 |
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| divinefury | ale: what wifi adapter do u have? | 14:12 |
| ale` | divinefury: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN | 14:12 |
| divinefury | could it b that the driver does not implement the feature? | 14:14 |
| divinefury | give us a sec | 14:14 |
| divinefury | wot drivers are u using at the moment? | 14:17 |
| divinefury | are they the 1s from the repo or from the intel site? | 14:17 |
| BluesKaj | !u | divinefury | 14:17 |
| ubottu | divinefury: U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' nor 'Ur' are words in the English language. Neither are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'Ne1' nor 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information. | 14:17 |
| divinefury | hahahahaaa | 14:18 |
| divinefury | ok ok heh its just second nature innet? | 14:19 |
| jhohn | its ok, i am not a native english speaker and do not have any probs with it | 14:19 |
| BluesKaj | divinefury, this isn't IM , it's irc so text shortcuts aren't appreciated and sometimes are misunderstood | 14:20 |
| * ale` is thinking of replacing network-manager with wicd | 14:20 | |
| divinefury | when you are writing on paper, you use proper spellings with all the consonants and vowels and on the computer, unless its a uni assignment or a company memo, you use short-hand abbreviations | 14:20 |
| divinefury | btw, im not a native english speaker :p | 14:20 |
| divinefury | by the way * | 14:21 |
| rork | idd divinefury | 14:21 |
| divinefury | gosh, this would be harder than i first thought it'd be :( | 14:21 |
| BluesKaj | jhohn, no matter , we have to respect the rules , they make it easier for everyone | 14:22 |
| divinefury | http://www.internetslang.com/ ;) | 14:24 |
| BluesKaj | ale`, I used wicd for a while on my laptop, but after intrepid , network manager got debugged and worked fine , but I never tried to have it run right at boot | 14:24 |
| divinefury | anyways... | 14:25 |
| BluesKaj | divinefury, this irc freenode , this server doesn | 14:25 |
| BluesKaj | 'subscribe to network slang | 14:25 |
| divinefury | heh don't get all haughty and that :o | 14:26 |
| BluesKaj | haughty ? ...it's just respect for others , that's all ...it doesn't matter if you first langauge isn't english | 14:27 |
| divinefury | you take things too seriously :)... | 14:28 |
| divinefury | if you notice i haven't used even a single non-standard abbreviation since you first pointed it out | 14:28 |
| adamj | susundberg - seems there is now a pile of symlinks in /etc/alternative/ which map various defaults - seems ( in typical f*#king google style ) they decided in the debs post install script - that chrome should out rank all other browsers installed - and set itself here | 14:28 |
| rork | It makes sense to use proper english in a support channel which all kind of nationalities/ages/experienced people use. It should be a small effort to be honest. | 14:29 |
| divinefury | and im making it :) | 14:29 |
| divinefury | so i don't really see a problem | 14:30 |
| adamj | final solution - cd /etc/alternatives/; rm x-www-browser gnome-default-browser; ln -s /usr/bin/firefox x-www-browser; | 14:30 |
| divinefury | it wasn't intentional but anyways, my apologies for any perceived 'disrespect' | 14:31 |
| divinefury | happy? now can we all get along? please :)? | 14:31 |
| BluesKaj | divinefury, no need to get personal. we just have to maintain certain standards , that's all I have to say | 14:32 |
| divinefury | :( | 14:33 |
| divinefury | i apologised :o | 14:33 |
| susundberg | adamj: it was not that hard, was it ;) | 14:35 |
| BluesKaj | divinefury, fine | 14:35 |
| adamj | ha - never accuse a man with a keyboard and a beard of 'taking things too seriously' | 14:35 |
| susundberg | adamj: ps. did you try the command 'update-alternatives' | 14:35 |
| divinefury | BluesKaj: if you notice, the apology wasn't aimed at any1 :)...i haven't been on irc in a long time and the last time i was on it, there were no such rules....so it was an honest mistake | 14:36 |
| adamj | susundberg - just a matter of reading through the postinstall in the deb - joy - i looked at update-alternatives - but i like to go manual if possible - so i know what's happening | 14:36 |
| divinefury | and just joke about everything is what i do so heh nothing personal there | 14:36 |
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| divinefury | adamj: just out of curiosity did you try 'sudo dpkg -r google-chromium'? | 14:43 |
| divinefury | bigrovar: which version of kubuntu are you using? | 14:47 |
| divinefury | bigrovar: which version of kde? | 14:47 |
| adamj | divinefury: it was google-chrome-stable_current_i386 (chromium works great - and didn't hose my file/protocol associations) - as i suspected in teh end - it was google just presuming their browser was 'highest prority' | 15:04 |
| adamj | divinefury: is there a config file that holds the various possibilities for the alternatives sysmlinks - that includes the priorities ? to be honest i think chrome will hose them again when it updates | 15:07 |
| adamj | divinefury: i presume this exists so teh link can be set back to a previous value when a package is removed | 15:09 |
| BajK_ | too bad there is no "KDE distribution" | 15:10 |
| yofel | adamj: a) don't mess with the symlinks in /etc/alternatives by hand, use update-alternatives, and update-alternatives --display x-www-browser will list the configuration, and with --config (and sudo) you can change it | 15:33 |
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| adamj | yofel: cheers for that - do you know where it stores the information you see in --display ( i.e. the other browsers and their priotities ? ) | 15:44 |
| yofel | yes, in /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/* - please don't mess with that, that's package management internal | 15:45 |
| adamj | yofel: dont worry - when i break it I wont bitch :-) | 15:45 |
| yofel | :P | 15:45 |
| yofel | adamj: you can also install kalternatives - then you can manage them from system settings | 15:46 |
| adamj | yofel: you seem to know about this - is theer a way of stoping a package ( shall we say chrome ) giving itself a silly high priority ( even if it is the unstable build ) - can I ( just the machines owner and admin ) out rank the deb from google ? | 15:46 |
| yofel | adamj: if you use --config and set the browser by yourself, the setting will be set to manual and dpkg won't touch it in the future | 15:47 |
| adamj | is kalternatives just a kde GUI to manage /etc/alternatives - or is it another parallel mechanism - thanks re the manual override | 15:48 |
| yofel | it's a GUI for update-alternatives | 15:48 |
| adamj | and - should i raise a bug kde/kubuntu because setting default browser in kde system settings did not fix this for me - and i figure it should have ? | 15:48 |
| yofel | hm, not sure, those are 2 seperate settings, KDE itself will honor it's own setting, but as for other applications, dunno - feel free to file a bug, but I don't know if this is possible (or should be done) | 15:50 |
| adamj | yofel: cheers - will try and understand the seperation of file association stacks before going near a bug report - thanks again | 15:51 |
| kukuNut | recorditnow doesn't record sound? any ideas? | 15:58 |
| kukuNut | spkr icon checked and can't see any other settings | 15:59 |
| Windowed | hello, is it normal tha kwallet keeps asking me for the wlan password?? | 16:21 |
| A_B_ | Hi, what would be a good kde4 disk usage utility alternative to firelight ? | 16:23 |
| rtdos | is there an anti-virus for kubuntu / linux that'll also scan windows files (even scan using network drives) ? | 16:27 |
| adamj | rtdos : clam - in its various forms ? | 16:34 |
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| adamj | rtdos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV | 16:38 |
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| FloridaGuy | in kubuntu 10.10..how do i find out what tvtunner card i have | 16:50 |
| stuq | anyone else having kmix/pulseaudio issues on 10.10? Kmix is causing cpu race and is very unresponsive. | 16:50 |
| FloridaGuy | in 10.10...for hardware info....how can i find out what tv tunner card i have??? | 17:03 |
| Windowed | how come network manager keeps configuring my wlan and asking to access kwallet? | 17:06 |
| rtdos | thanks adamj | 17:07 |
| FloridaGuy | does kubuntu have a gui where can see a list of all hardware on the system | 17:08 |
| FloridaGuy | 268 people in here....but no one speaks | 17:09 |
| Windowed | probably all bots... | 17:10 |
| FloridaGuy | Windowed: if you dont use kwallet you could uninstall it | 17:11 |
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| yofel | FloridaGuy: not sure, for the card either look at the kernel log as what it was recognised, or try kinfocenter | 17:15 |
| FloridaGuy | yofel: there isent a hardware center in kubuntu | 17:16 |
| yofel | well, kinfocenter is the closest thing you can get | 17:16 |
| yofel | you probably need to install it if it isn't there | 17:16 |
| FloridaGuy | yofel: that gave me what i wanted | 17:19 |
| FloridaGuy | thanks | 17:19 |
| yofel | :) | 17:19 |
| FloridaGuy | now fow tvtunner card....gota find out who WinTV is...cant remember if thats ati or what | 17:20 |
| sugoruyo | hey all, has anyone tried to install maverick on a macbook? (mine is 2,1) | 17:23 |
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| === Brack101 is now known as brack9 | ||
| brack9 | hey | 18:15 |
| brack9 | What's the name of the Ubuntu package with the complete set of Oxygen icons including the SVG sources? | 18:15 |
| brack9 | oxygen-icon-theme-complete seems to just have some of the 256x256 PNGs | 18:15 |
| yofel | brack9: if you have a specific icon you can use dpkg -S <path> to find out which package it belongs to | 18:33 |
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| ct529 | hi guys, I would like always to use -march=native when I compile .... how do I set this up? | 19:33 |
| ct529 | I am fed up with setting it up on a on demand basis every time I compile | 19:34 |
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| Guest60341 | ^lklk | 19:56 |
| mandla | Hey guys. Its me again, is there anywhere where i can find a PERL script that extracts data from Excel files into a MYSQL database? | 20:04 |
| Pici | mandla: I'd try asking in #perl | 20:05 |
| Pici | Although you'll need to be registered/identified to join there. | 20:05 |
| Pici | !register | 20:05 |
| ubottu | Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode | 20:05 |
| mandla | Pici: Can i get the address of the site. | 20:06 |
| Pici | mandla: Thats a channel here on irc. | 20:07 |
| Pici | /join #perl | 20:07 |
| mandla | Pici: Where do i get to register? | 20:07 |
| mandla | Pici: Im kinda slow, lol, thanx man, i get it now. | 20:09 |
| lan | !nick | 20:11 |
| ubottu | Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with freenode. | 20:11 |
| mandla | Pici: Hey Pici, which other channels are available here, ddnt know how powerful this is. | 20:19 |
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| Pici | mandla: For Ubuntu related channels, see: [ Wrote 135 lines ] | 20:23 |
| Pici | oops | 20:24 |
| Pici | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 20:24 |
| Pici | Or for others; http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist | 20:24 |
| Pici | !alis | too | 20:24 |
| ubottu | too: Looking for a channel? /msg alis list *searchterm* More help in #freenode | 20:24 |
| mandla | Pici: Thax man. | 20:29 |
| rtdos | how do i uninstall or disable all power management functions and daemons? | 20:36 |
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| rtdos | how do i disable or uninstall or remove all power management apps and daemons? | 21:11 |
| rtdos | help! how do i disable or uninstall or remove all power management apps and daemons? | 21:20 |
| James147 | rtdos: why are you trying to do that? | 21:26 |
| sfears | how can i configure konversation to connect to freenode without getting the sasl error? | 21:26 |
| rtdos | James147: i looked in bios and uninstalled everything gnome / ubuntu but about 2 or 3 minutes after the screensaver kicks in my monitor powers off. i already checked my powersave settings and disabled all powersave options when plugged in. | 21:30 |
| sfears | rtdos: sounds like you may have an xscreen saver session kicking in after the kde screen saver starts.. not sure where the setting is but that sounds like it could be the culprit | 21:35 |
| sfears | inother words you have a gnome screen saver and a kde screen saver rtdos | 21:36 |
| rtdos | sfears: i uninstalled gnome power management. how do i look to see what daemons are running? | 21:36 |
| sfears | not sure rtdos | 21:36 |
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| rtdos | i see under kde services configuration manager a tick box for power management. i'm going to un-tick it and see what happens. thanks sfears. | 21:38 |
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| sfears | rtdos: i think the gnome screen saver is what you need to disable | 21:39 |
| rtdos | sfears: it's uninstalled, at least synaptic and sudo apt-get both tell me it is. :-\ | 21:42 |
| sfears | rtdos: alright, just keep in mind it may not be a power management settings, could just be a blank screen saver that has settings buried in some gdm configs that are laying around | 21:45 |
| sfears | is there a way to connect to freenode via konversation? | 21:46 |
| Darothane | hi all, does anyone use Quassel and knows if it's possible to prevent notices from going into the server window, I would rather have them in either the channel that they originated from or in a 'popup' | 22:09 |
| cjcontech | Hi I'm new to Kubuntu and I'm not liking the logout/power off menu in netbook-edition??? either I'm stupid or it's a bit tricky to get the drop-down suspend list to show up | 22:37 |
| James147 | cjcontech: click and hold | 22:38 |
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| cjcontech | thanks but can I not configure it to show buttons instead... apart from that I'm loving Kubuntu | 22:39 |
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| James147 | cjcontech: not that i know of, but you should beable to suspend from the battery widget | 22:40 |
| James147 | ^^ or alt+f2 and type: suspend | 22:40 |
| James147 | ^^ or even configure the power button to suspend :) | 22:40 |
| cjcontech | James147: thanks these are good work-arounds, it's just a bit of a niggle really | 22:41 |
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| * James147 has his netbook set up to suspend when the lid is closed, or the power button is pressed... if he needs to reboot or shutdown he alt+f2: reboot :) | 22:42 | |
| cjcontech | James147: pls explain the difference between suspend to ram/suspend to disk! | 22:43 |
| James147 | cjcontech: s2ram means power off everything but the ram... uses very little power and have a very very quick wake up | 22:43 |
| cjcontech | James147: ok and suspend to disk? | 22:44 |
| James147 | cjcontech: s2disk copies the conents of the ram into the swapspace on the disk and powers off teh computer completely, slow then s2ram to suspend and resume but uses no power (its also quicker then a full boot... well sorta) | 22:44 |
| James147 | cjcontech: note taht for s2disk you need more swap space then the current total ram being used or it will fail | 22:45 |
| * James147 has never gotten s2disk to work well :p... he just uses s2ram, its much quicker | 22:46 | |
| cjcontech | James147: ok so s2ram is like "standby" and s2ram is like "hibernate"? | 22:46 |
| James147 | yes | 22:46 |
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| James147 | ^^ s2disk is hibernate taht is :) | 22:46 |
| cjcontech | James147: I have double swap space to ram, I'd like to use s2disk as then all my apps e.g. Thunderbird would still be open in the morning (after hibernating over night) | 22:48 |
| * James147 also notes that kubuntu, by default, opens all applications that where open when the computer was last shutdown | 22:48 | |
| cjcontech | James147: well I'm learning a lot tonight thanks | 22:49 |
| cjcontech | James147: :) | 22:49 |
| James147 | ^^ so if you want to test s2disk, make sure its actually working and not just kde reoping the applications :) | 22:50 |
| cjcontech | James147: I'm testing it now... | 22:51 |
| cjcontech | James147: surely the best test is to open a new text document, type something, leave it unsaved and then s2disk? | 22:53 |
| James147 | cjcontech: mmmm... not sure, quite a few kde programs will save their state and reopen | 22:54 |
| cjcontech | James147: well as long as it works I'm happy :) | 22:55 |
| cjcontech | James147: seems to work fine, I'm still doing it from the drop-down menu, it's not ideal, but then switching to the terminal sorta breaks the Kde "style" | 23:03 |
| James147 | cjcontech: ^^ just need to press alt+f2 and start typing hybern.... | 23:03 |
| James147 | :) | 23:04 |
| cjcontech | James147: maybe I could add a like to a s2disk script on the favourites bar? | 23:04 |
| cjcontech | James147: maybe I could add a link to a s2disk script on the favourites bar? | 23:04 |
| James147 | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Suspend+Applet?content=101780 | 23:05 |
| James147 | cjcontech: ^^ | 23:05 |
| cjcontech | James147: isn't alt+f2 the run shortcut | 23:07 |
| James147 | cjcontech: yes | 23:07 |
| James147 | but it dose more then just run programs | 23:07 |
| cjcontech | James147: oh sorry I thought you were talking about the terminal | 23:07 |
| cjcontech | James147: I was getting confused there | 23:08 |
| cjcontech | James147: so I just type "s2disk" ??? | 23:08 |
| James147 | ^^ :s i have to type "suspend to disk"... though it finds it well before i complete that | 23:10 |
| James147 | (and the krunner is smart, starts to learns what you type | 23:10 |
| cjcontech | James147: cool, another nice feature | 23:10 |
| cjcontech | James147: how to I switch to the terminal again, I should know this... | 23:11 |
| James147 | cjcontech: alt+f2: "konsole" :) dont ened to switch to a vertial terminal all the time | 23:11 |
| James147 | ^^ but if you need to its alt+ctrl+F[1-6] | 23:12 |
| cjcontech | James147: ok so alt+ctrl+F1 e.g. is a vertical terminal? | 23:13 |
| James147 | virtual | 23:13 |
| James147 | ^^ or better known as a tty :) | 23:13 |
| cjcontech | James147: ok thanks for the info :) | 23:14 |
| cjcontech | James147: yeah suspend to disk seems to work fine | 23:14 |
| cjcontech | James147: logout doesn't work for me though | 23:15 |
| James147 | why not? | 23:16 |
| cjcontech | James147: I haven't got a clue just goes to a black screen with "boot-sequence" type text | 23:16 |
| James147 | cjcontech: try switching to a tty and restarting kdm (sudo restart kdm) | 23:17 |
| cjcontech | James147: yeah that works | 23:19 |
| cjcontech | James147: bit of a issue there then | 23:20 |
| James147 | try this: http://georgia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8952036#3 | 23:21 |
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| cjcontech | James147: thanks again, I'll try that later (to late to start editing config files) | 23:23 |
| cjcontech | James147: I'm glad "suspend to disk" works though as every time I login I have to type my kdewallet password | 23:24 |
| cjcontech | James147: from a boot or reboot, I mean | 23:24 |
| James147 | cjcontech: ^^ thats proballt the network manager trying to connect at login, you can stop taht by telling it to store the passphrases in an unencrypted file | 23:25 |
| cjcontech | James147: yeah exactely | 23:25 |
| cjcontech | James147: I may do that later if it gets really annoying in the future | 23:26 |
| * James147 hopes that kde will support unlocking the wallet automatically on login eventually | 23:27 | |
| cjcontech | James147: I'm surprised KUbuntu isn | 23:27 |
| cjcontech | James147: I'm surprised KUbuntu isn't more popular, I hated Ubuntu 10.10 UNE | 23:27 |
| James147 | ^^ as far as I know kwallet is undergoing most of a rewrite atm | 23:27 |
| James147 | I think its because most people dont care and just get useto what ever they are given :) , i mean just look at windows | 23:28 |
| cjcontech | James147: lol well that's just an OS for kids and boring businesses | 23:30 |
| cjcontech | James147: but between Ubuntu 10.10 UNE and Kubuntu 10.10 (with netbook interface), Kubuntu is miles better | 23:30 |
| James147 | cjcontech: yup :) kde has come along way in the past couple of years | 23:31 |
| cjcontech | James147: but it's a shame that some of the "killer apps" seem to be inactive in terms of development | 23:36 |
| James147 | cjcontech: like what? | 23:36 |
| cjcontech | James147: Umbrello for one, that a killer app IMO | 23:37 |
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| cjcontech | James147: Quanta Plus is another | 23:41 |
| cjcontech | James147: anyway can I ask whether you use Kmail or Thunderbird or some other e-mail client, does Kmail have an edge on Thunderbird at all? | 23:44 |
| James147 | cjcontech: dont know ^^ i just use gmail :) | 23:44 |
| yofel | I use thunderbird | 23:45 |
| James147 | ^^ although if i where to use one I would go with kmail first :) | 23:45 |
| cjcontech | James147: well I suppose it has better integration, but I'd rather not have to "learn" another email client | 23:46 |
| yofel | kmail has gotten nice, and once the new release is out and the akonadi stuff hopefully finally works it'll be cool, I'm just too used to thunderbird currently to switch though | 23:46 |
| James147 | cjcontech: wouldnt have said it would be that hard to "learn" ^^ | 23:46 |
| cjcontech | yeah it's a though choice | 23:46 |
| yofel | and with oxygen-gtk as theme there isn't much of a GUI difference either, just the integration and how it works | 23:47 |
| yofel | James147: if you're used to a specific behaviour it does take a while to get used to kmail ;) | 23:47 |
| James147 | yofel: heh :) i wouldnt know havent used it for very long :) nor any other client | 23:48 |
| cjcontech | so is Kate the default text editor in Kubuntu, I can use that to edit config files?? | 23:48 |
| James147 | cjcontech: yes | 23:48 |
| Snowhog | cjcontech: This isn't 'perfect' and tends towards being 'busy', but check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients | 23:48 |
| James147 | ^^ you can use any text editor that supportys plain text files to edit config files :D | 23:48 |
| cjcontech | but Kate is ok, no? | 23:49 |
| James147 | cjcontech: no, its much beeter then 'ok' :D | 23:49 |
| James147 | better ^^ | 23:49 |
| yofel | sure, the issue would me more that kate is much more than you need ;) | 23:49 |
| James147 | yofel: ^^ you always have kwrite if kates to much :) | 23:50 |
| yofel | nah, I miss vi input support :P | 23:50 |
| * James147 is sure taht kwrite is the one with vi input.. is why kate and kdevelop and kile have it as well | 23:50 | |
| cjcontech | the only thing that annoys me with Kde is the relentless prefexing of apps with a K | 23:51 |
| yofel | ah wait, kwrite can do that too | 23:51 |
| Snowhog | cjcontech: For editing of configuration files in a graphical editor, Kate is quite good. For quick jobs, I often just edit via the CLI using nano (or sudo nano on root files). | 23:51 |
| James147 | cjcontech: tahts chaning... amarok, plasma... | 23:51 |
| Snowhog | James147: You weren't told? The 'K' is silent. | 23:51 |
| cjcontech | James147: well I'm glad because the K thing gets boring quickly | 23:52 |
| James147 | Snowhog: Silent and invisable? | 23:52 |
| moses | how do you make the desktop smaller | 23:52 |
| Snowhog | James147: Of course. ;) | 23:52 |
| James147 | moses: get a smaller monitor? | 23:52 |
| yofel | moses: I don't think we get what you want to do.. | 23:52 |
| cjcontech | James147: thanks for your help bye :) | 23:53 |
| cjcontech | Showhog: bye :) | 23:53 |
| moses | i want to select a higher resolution | 23:53 |
| Snowhog | I think moses want's to increase the resolution. | 23:53 |
| James147 | moses: :) what graphics card do you have? | 23:53 |
| moses | dude im running irc from irssi inside of a console in kubuntu | 23:53 |
| moses | im stoaked | 23:53 |
| moses | i have an nvidia | 23:53 |
| James147 | moses: if you ahve the nvidia driver installed run "kdesudo nvidia-settings" | 23:54 |
| cjcontech | bye :) | 23:54 |
| James147 | ^^ you can change it there | 23:54 |
| yofel | moses: did you install the proprietary driver? | 23:54 |
| moses | i did indeed | 23:54 |
| * yofel hides to work on neon again | 23:55 | |
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