[01:41] <maverick_> hi i have something weird that keeps flashing when i start up. after i log in this program keeps flashing on and off really fast. when im able to catch it.. it says "username" in a small box
[06:40] <head_victim> Well either my lubuntu is broken or I have hardware failure. Continual rebooting just after it gets out of bios.
[06:47] <head_victim> It's ok, I found the problem. Memory test has 100k errors and counting
[06:48] <bioterror> :D
[06:52] <head_victim> It's all DDR ram, fingers crossed I only loose 1 stick as this stuff is expensive :/
[06:52] <bioterror> :D
[06:52] <bioterror> I can tell you: RAM is almost free if it's not RDRAM or something else rare stuff
[06:52] <bioterror> but DDR is almost free
[06:53] <head_victim> bioterror: how so? The only source for it I have is ebay
[12:53] <tzanger> good morning... just trying out lubuntu but I'm having trouble finding where to configure the taskbar settings; the font used is *huge*
[12:54] <head_victim> tzanger: I'd tell you but my ram died this afternoon in my Lubuntu machine. It should be something like right clicking it and going into settings though.
[12:55] <tzanger> yeah I'm poking around... so far no dice
[12:56] <tzanger> same with assigning a shortcut to an application, in KDE it was the system menu where this was done
[12:57] <head_victim> What sort of shortcut
[12:57] <tzanger> well I typically assign alt-` to bringing up konsole
[12:57] <tzanger> oh
[12:57] <tzanger> it still works
[12:57] <tzanger> I wonder what happened, it wasn't working when I started the system
[13:02] <head_victim> So is this a fresh Lubuntu or lxde over another installation
[13:12] <tzanger> it's kubuntu with lubuntu-desktop installed and set as default
[13:12] <head_victim> Ah ok, I'm not exactly sure how Lubuntu handles shortcuts though
[13:13] <MrChrisDruif> Better Mkaysi?
[13:13] <Mkaysi> Yes MrChrisDruif
[13:13] <MrChrisDruif> :D
[13:13] <MrChrisDruif> I'll kick my other account...
[13:14] <Mkaysi> msg ChanServ ghost ?
[13:14] <tzanger> I see the font thing is done this way on purpose (auto-scaling)
[13:14] <tzanger> it's an option in a new version (not out yet)
[13:15] <MrChrisDruif> so /msg ChanServ ghost with my other account?
[13:51] <MrChrisDruif> Mkaysi: ^
[13:51] <Mkaysi> ?
[13:52] <MrChrisDruif> Mkaysi: so /msg ChanServ ghost with my other account? To release the other name?
[13:52] <Mkaysi> MrChrisDruif: To kick your other account out of network /msg nickserv ghost ChrisDruif
[13:53] <MrChrisDruif> Alright....need to switch a few more channels to the new name :P
[14:26] <tzanger> is there any magic involved in kopete's notifications animating its system tray entry/highlighting the taskbar item like with plasma?
[14:26] <tzanger> nothing animates, I see no notification of incoming messages
[14:27] <tzanger> kopete's still set to do what it always did, but nothing in the system tray animates
[14:32] <MrChrisDruif> You are using Lubuntu, right?
[14:32] <MrChrisDruif> tzanger: ^
[14:32] <tzanger> MrChrisDruif: correct
[14:33] <MrChrisDruif> Just making sure, seeing Kopete is KDE's messenger...
[14:33] <MrChrisDruif> But you see no notification at all or just no animation?
[14:36] <MrChrisDruif> gtg, sorry tzanger :)
[14:46] <Ormie> hello
[14:49] <Ormie> goodbye
[16:54] <andy> hello
[16:54] <andy> I need some help with logging in, anyone available to give an hand please?
[16:57] <andy> anyone, please?
[16:57] <mark76> Logging in to what?
[16:58] <bioterror> probably livecd doesnt boot into desktop
[16:58] <bioterror> and doesnt accept any passwords
[16:58] <andy> I cannot log in from the splash screen anymore on my Lubuntu 10.04 installation
[16:59] <mark76> Can you log into another desktop session?
[16:59] <andy> I insert username and pwd, a grey screen appears and then back to the splash screen
[16:59] <andy> no
[16:59] <andy> I tried all desktop session
[17:00] <andy> the failsafe command line startup still works
[17:00] <mark76> Have you tried deleting .Xauthority from a tty?
[17:00] <andy> mmmm
[17:00] <andy> I would I do that?
[17:01] <mark76> That's in the home directory
[17:01] <mark76> Good question
[17:01] <mark76> I don't know the command for delete
[17:01] <mark76> Is is del?
[17:01] <andy> ok I'll have a look and come back to you
[17:01] <andy> I'll try from the command line
[17:02] <bioterror> rm is command
[17:02] <mark76> That's the one :D
[17:02] <andy> rm -f
[17:02] <andy> no?
[17:03] <mark76> Yeah
[17:03] <andy> :)
[17:03] <andy> ok I'll try now
[17:03] <mark76> rm -f ~/.Xauthority
[17:05] <andy> I cancelled Xauthority but still unable to log in
[17:06] <mark76> Weird
[17:06] <mark76> Which DM are you using?
[17:07] <andy> sorry, what do you mean by DM?
[17:08] <andy> ah desktop manager, sure
[17:08] <andy> eheheh
[17:08] <mark76> GDM?.. KDM?.. LXDM?..
[17:08] <mark76> SLiM?.. LightDM?..
[17:08] <andy> LXDE
[17:09] <mark76> Are you using LXDM?
[17:09] <andy> yes
[17:10] <mark76> That's when you log in
[17:10] <andy> yes, it's LXDM, just made a quick search
[17:10] <mark76> Hmm. I'm using that as well
[17:11] <mark76> What session options do you have?
[17:13] <andy> Lubuntu, Lubuntu Netbook, Openbox, KDE/Openbox, GNOME/Openbox
[17:13] <mark76> And the Openbox sessions don't work?
[17:14] <andy> no
[17:14] <andy> none of them
[17:15] <mark76> Weird
[17:15] <mark76> Try installing GDM and using that
[17:15] <andy> ok
[17:16] <andy> although the weird thing is that the installation has always worked flawlessly until today
[17:16] <mark76> Well at least if you install GDM you can see if it's the session/desktop manager that's at fault
[17:17] <andy> ok
[17:17] <andy> any idea on how I could install it from command line?
[17:18] <mark76> sudo apt-get install gdm
[17:19] <andy> ok I'll have to try with my LAN cable
[17:19] <mark76> Okay
[17:19] <andy> can't do that now unfortunately
[17:19] <andy> one question
[17:19] <andy> I see there's a Xauthority in the /root folderm, too
[17:20] <andy> will it make a big difference to delete it?
[17:21] <mark76> Might do
[17:22] <mark76> Try it
[17:22] <andy> just tried, and deleted the new Xauthority in the home folder, too, but to no avail
[17:23] <bioterror> hmmmm
[17:24] <mark76> Okay try deleting .xsessions
[17:24] <andy> oki will do
[17:24] <bioterror> hey
[17:24] <bioterror> before you continue installling removing anything
[17:25] <bioterror> would you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:25] <bioterror> if there's any errors
[17:25] <andy> oki
[17:25] <bioterror> !pastebin | andy
[17:26] <andy> which command shall I use?
[17:26] <bioterror> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:26] <bioterror> or less
[17:26] <bioterror> which one suits you
[17:26] <andy> (I don't have any .xsessions, just searched with find -name)
[17:26] <mark76> I'm going to have dinner
[17:26] <mark76> BBL
[17:27] <andy> ok
[17:27] <andy> thanks a lot
[17:27] <andy> for your time and help
[17:28] <andy> the log is extremely long
[17:28] <andy> and I can't copy and paste
[17:28] <andy> anything in particular I should look for?
[17:30] <bioterror> is there any errors
[17:31] <tzanger> anyone encounter lxpanel not animating systray icons? kopete and dropbox's icons animate, but not in lxdm
[17:31] <andy> no
[17:31] <andy> no error
[17:31] <tzanger> (this is on a kubunutu 10.10 desktop that I installed lubuntu-desktop on, then rebooted to use lxdm)
[17:31] <bioterror> andy, sudo cat /var/log/lxdm.log    is there anything?
[17:32] <andy> no it looks fine
[17:37] <bioterror> can you log in from the safe mode and use internet?
[17:37] <andy> no
[17:39] <bioterror> found posting with same problem
[17:40] <andy> interesting
[17:42] <bioterror> your passowrd doesnt have any spaces?
[17:42] <bioterror> password
[17:42] <andy> no
[17:43] <andy> no spaces
[17:44] <bioterror> cat ~/.xsession-errors
[17:44] <bioterror> does that say something
[17:45] <andy> it's empty
[17:45] <bioterror> hi gilir, we are having a problem with login. right after inputting username and password it flashes grey screen and returns to lxdm login screen
[17:46] <gilir> bioterror, I know, it's actually 2 bugs
[17:46] <bioterror> on 10.04?
[17:46] <gilir> no, on 11.04
[17:47] <bioterror> this is on 10.04
[17:47] <gilir> since when ?
[17:47] <andy> since today
[17:47] <andy> yesterday was working fine
[17:48] <andy> and I've never had any problem with the installation
[17:48] <andy> I didn't install any package yesterday, either
[17:48] <bioterror> andy cat /etc/lxdm/default.conf
[17:48] <bioterror> is the session line /usr/bin/startlubuntu
[17:49] <andy> yes it's there
[17:49] <andy> if it means anything
[17:49] <andy> there's nothing under [server]
[17:50] <bioterror> well it's commented off
[17:50] <andy> ok
[17:51] <gnewb> Hello, I am a returning LXDE user, just installed Lubuntu, 10.04, it is very nice.
[17:53] <bioterror> gilir, do you get anything in mind. xorg.0.log seems to not tell us nothing, .xsession-errors is empty
[17:53] <bioterror> one thing is to install gdm to solve this problem, but it wont fix the lxdm
[17:53] <gilir> check the /var/log/auth.log
[17:55] <andy> eveything seems to be fine
[17:55] <andy> in auth.log
[17:57] <bioterror> gotta put kids to bed, bbl
[17:57] <andy> thanks bioterror
[17:57] <andy> does it make any sense at all?
[17:57] <andy> is it possible that the problem is going on because I ran out of space on the partition?
[17:57] <mark76> Is it working yet?
[17:58] <andy> no mark76
[17:58] <mark76> Ah
[17:58] <mark76> How many partitions have you got?
[17:58] <andy> two
[17:58] <andy> win and lubuntu
[17:58] <andy> the lubuntu one is basically full
[17:59] <mark76> Could you make it bigger?
[17:59] <andy> no but I could get rid of some stuff
[18:00] <andy> ok last try before I go
[18:00] <mark76> Okay
[18:01] <andy> yeah!!!
[18:01] <andy> just worked by freeing up some space on the partition
[18:02] <andy> I saw that in auth.log there was a mention about the system being unable on keyring because of disk being full
[18:03] <andy> being unable to write
[18:03] <andy> ok
[18:03] <andy> thanks a lot to everyone for the help and the time
[18:03] <andy> I really appreciated it
[18:04] <andy> keep up with the fab work on the distro!!!
[18:05] <andy> bye bye
[18:13] <mark76> Someone needs a bigger hard drive
[18:13] <mark76> ;)
[18:13] <MichealH> What size? :P
[18:13] <MichealH> 40 mB?? :P
[18:15]  * MichealH has the hard drive space of a nibble :P
[18:15]  * MichealH hides
[18:17] <mark76> How would I know?
[18:26] <MichealH> mark76: Cos it runs windows 2.0 :P
[18:26] <mark76> Does it?
[18:26] <MichealH> haah
[18:27] <MichealH> No! :P
[18:27] <MichealH> Of course the Hard drive of a nibble runs worm :P
[18:27] <MichealH> Bad joke :P
[18:27]  * MichealH shuts up
[18:34] <bioterror> hahaha
[18:34] <bioterror> gotta remember, full hd
[18:36] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[18:36] <gnewb> I have a Netgear/Marvel wireless card, do I need the Windows 2000 drivers for it ? it is the 833reva one.
[18:37] <kristian-aalborg> I removed the superflous language packs and a few apps, plus the modem stuff... is there something else I can safely lose to save a few megs?
[18:39] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, rm -rf /usr/share/man/* :D
[18:39] <bioterror> you get easily 22MB ;D
[18:40] <bioterror> you dont need man pages, as long as you got IRC
[18:40] <bioterror> ":D"
[18:43] <gnewb> I have a PCI Marvell Technology Grp. Ltd. 88w835 [Libertas] 802.11 b/g Wireless (rev 03) device , is there a compatible or working driver for it ?
[18:43] <gnewb> Lubuntu 10.04
[18:44] <bioterror> does lspci or lsusb see it?
[18:45] <gnewb> bioterror: It did, once
[18:45] <gnewb> lspci , it is a PCI dongle
[18:45] <bioterror> sudo lshw -c network
[18:46] <gnewb> Thank you.
[18:46] <bioterror> can we see it
[18:47] <gnewb> bioterror: Is there a pastebin for this channel?
[18:48] <bioterror> !pastebin | gnewb
[18:50] <gnewb> bioterror: http://paste.ubuntu.com/555513/
[18:50] <bioterror> unclaimed :o
[18:51] <gnewb> I am hardwired now, could not get it to locate the wifi earlier.
[18:51] <bioterror> hahaha
[18:51] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/mrv8k it's ndiswrapper case
[18:52] <gnewb> bioterror: Thank you.
[18:52] <bioterror> not a bad case at all
[18:53] <gnewb> All I need is the inf?
[18:53] <bioterror> seems so
[18:54] <bioterror> niiiiiiiiiiiiice
[18:54] <bioterror> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[18:54] <bioterror> thanks for teh broken link
[18:54] <bioterror> http://people.freebsd.org/~wpaul/marvell/mrv8335.inf
[18:54] <gnewb> On pastebin?
[18:55] <bioterror> I was checking that guide
[18:55] <bioterror> wget that .inf
[18:56] <gnewb> That does make better sense, I was uncertain if it was in the repos or not.
[18:57] <gnewb> Let me install and play with this old Wireless card...Thank you kindly for the assistance.
[19:08] <kristian-aalborg> I was actually thinking of removing some documentation/examples,
[19:09] <kristian-aalborg> oops, sitting in an awkward angle to keyboard... end of sentence was "but all man pages seems a bit too much"
[19:26] <kristian-aalborg> I have 60 megs or so left now of the 2 gigs... leaves very little space for the end user... it's not that lubuntu is big at all by modern standards
[19:42] <phillw> kristian-aalborg: you *can* fit lubuntu onto 2GB, but you are really pushing the limits of even lubuntu. The live install as per a usb device would leave a bit more space for user space, but with price of hard drives and usb sticks these days - a little bit more is better :)
[19:43] <phillw> kristian-aalborg: I have a 2GB usb stick, and it leaves me a reasonable abount of free space with lubuntu on it
[19:44] <phillw> it is known, with ubuntu as 2.3GB hell, fortunately lubuntu is a slimmer than ubuntu is.
[19:52] <phillw> kristian-aalborg: on my 2GB stick, I have 1.2GB of user space
[19:52] <bioterror> are you running lubuntu?
[19:52] <bioterror> or what
[20:09] <kristian-aalborg> yes, lubuntu 10.10
[20:09] <kristian-aalborg> phillw: strange thing is, the installation failed so I had to do some creative things to start and clean up the install - then it ran fine
[20:10] <kristian-aalborg> I think it is awesome to give a complete system, with multimedia players and everything, in that amount of space
[20:13] <phillw> kristian-aalborg: the golden rule is md5 checksum the install media https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CheckCD Else you can yourself up the creek without a paddle.
[20:14] <phillw> *you can  find yourself*
[20:22] <kristian-aalborg> I did that, it was fine
[20:23] <kristian-aalborg> or to be specific, I md5'd the ISO, then used unetbootin to put it on the usb
[20:24] <phillw> kristian-aalborg: did you then check the usb?
[20:28] <kristian-aalborg> no, don't know how to do that
[20:28] <kristian-aalborg> just md5sum /media/usb ?
[20:30] <phillw> kristian-aalborg: give me a moment...
[20:33] <phillw> dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=279303 | md5sum Is the one for cd's, you would replace the /dev/cdrom with where your usb is mounted
[20:34] <phillw> but you should have 'check the cd' available on a usb boot.
[20:34] <phillw> that runs okay with 10.10
[20:40] <kristian-aalborg> ah, of course... did not think that far
[20:41] <kristian-aalborg> doing that now...
[20:42] <kristian-aalborg> "check disk for defects", that is
[20:42] <kristian-aalborg> no errors found, yay
[20:42] <phillw> kristian-aalborg: it's why checking the install media is SO important :)
[20:43] <kristian-aalborg> yes, I've had it go wrong on me dozens of times... I can heartily recommend K3B for cd
[20:45] <phillw> kristian-aalborg: as you have a working system, we can catch up later - I'm being called to other teams, ping me if you get stuck and I'll return, but there are people more into the inside of lubuntu than I am.
[20:46] <phillw> kristian-aalborg: Hi, (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw) is an admin person, wiki stuff, tidying up stuff creating new entries. Passionate about Lubuntu (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu), Accessibility (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Team) and UBT (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam) Also familiar with LAMP and web stuff.
[20:47] <phillw> kristian-aalborg: if drop into #ubuntu-offtopic you can have a general chat about stuff.
[20:47] <phillw> I sent you an invite earlier
[20:47]  * phillw #lubuntu-offtopic !!!!
[20:49] <kristian-aalborg> I'm off to bed anyway, so no prob phillw
[20:50] <kristian-aalborg> thanks for helping out, see y'all later