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johnny77I'm running fluxbox, installed from Ubuntu 10.10. - I just opened Update Manager. It lists 4 updates, but when I click installed updates, it does nothing.00:39
JackyAlcineThe channel's pretty quiet tonight.02:12
JackyAlcinetechmik67; did you fix your issue with the kernel?02:13
techmik67yup02:17
techmik67well02:17
techmik67not the kernel issue, but i got my usb wifi working again02:17
techmik67http://pastebin.com/vTMNDNWR02:17
techmik67i still get that error msg on boot, but it doesn tseem to affect anything....02:18
JackyAlcinehm, and I don't see any way of repressing neither.02:19
techmik67i thought it was part of my wifi problem, but i guess not02:19
techmik67and modules.dep DOES exist, anyway.....02:19
techmik67so i'm ok02:20
techmik67want to share that fix though... i'm sure i'm not the only person who wants to use that adapter02:20
JackyAlcinePost in on http://www.ubuntuforums.com/02:25
JackyAlcineI need to know your kernel version, naresh_02:29
naresh_hi...02:29
naresh_im new to ubuntu, i installed ubuntu 10.1002:30
naresh_well, i have an issue in setting up wireless on my laptop02:30
JackyAlcineWhat's the version of your Linux kernel, naresh_? Like v 2.26-35.24? You can find it in System Mointor's first tab.02:34
naresh_2.6.35-22-generic02:36
JackyAlcineWhat exactly is the issue with your setup?02:41
JackyAlcineConnectivity? Configuration?02:41
naresh_i could able to see wireless network showing up in network list...02:43
naresh_i have doubts on BSSID  and clone mac address in wireless setup..02:44
naresh_configuration problem...02:44
JackyAlcineSo you can't go online (doubting) or is it just a network setup?02:45
JackyAlcineCan you provide me with a screenshot? (http://www.imagebin.com)02:45
naresh_sure02:45
naresh_http://imagebin.us/viewer.php?file=qqsuinpecv8gg43rt6lo.png02:55
naresh_i can only connect thru wired.. not from wireless03:00
JackyAlcinenaresh_: When you click on the NetworkManager indicator; does it show Enable Wireless to be checked or greyed out?03:01
naresh_i could not see it...i could only see enable networking03:03
JackyAlcineHm, your wireless driver might not be supported.03:04
naresh_do i have to install any driver?03:05
JackyAlcineYes. And your kernel's 35-generic?03:05
JackyAlcinesudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic03:06
naresh_yes03:06
JackyAlcineThat instruction should download the correct drivers for your system.03:07
JackyAlcineYou can also find it in Synaptic.03:07
naresh_i got unable to locate package03:08
naresh_my kernel is linux 2.6.35-22-generic03:10
JackyAlcineopen up Synaptic and search for linux wireless modules03:11
naresh_there is pcmciautils03:14
naresh_what is Cloned Mac Address for setting up wireless network?03:31
asterismohi people, its been so long...03:33
JackyAlcinenaresh_: It's unnecessary for a wireless connection, but it's the MAC address that your device would take when connected to that network.03:45
naresh_JackyAlicine_: I have given Mac Address of Router, but for Cloned Mac Address i dont know what should be provided...!!03:47
JackyAlcineYou can leave it empty; most connections don't require it unless it filters the MAC addresses.03:49
naresh_ok..03:49
naresh_and is BSSID is same as SSID- that is name of wireless connection that we wanted to connect right?03:49
JackyAlcineYup.03:50
naresh_in the screenshot i think, i have provided all these details, but not sure if any other details to be provided to fix this issue..03:52
JackyAlcineyeah, neither can I. I'm sorry.03:52
naresh_np..03:53
a4ablewifi not working in my dell netbook06:27
a4ableworks well in windows06:27
a4ablepls help06:27
yax51_a4able: what version of ubuntu you running?06:41
yax51_a4able: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo06:42
jermzaWhen I click on Places, my home directory appear, as they should.  For some reason, one of my folders OUTSIDE of the default "Music" "Videos" etc is appearing in the dropdown menu.  Its not supposed to be there.07:25
bioterrorseems like there's no opensource solution for pdf to doc or excel07:42
JackyAlcinePDF to excel? Never seen that.07:43
JackyAlcineBut yeah, PDF to Doc opensource is depressing. =/07:43
hobgoblinmorning07:44
bioterrorI just used a website to do it07:44
bioterror:D07:44
bioterrorand that looks like a puke :D07:50
bioterrornot my problem, I think :D07:50
geirhaMeh, open the pdf, Ctrl+A Ctrl+C, open OpenOffice Writer, Ctrl+V and save ;P08:11
bioterrorgeirha, doesnt work with evince08:36
bioterroras this is a scanned pdf08:36
geirhaAh, so you need OCR software08:55
hobgoblinDutch70: imagine seeing you in here :)09:21
Dutch70heya forest...lol. How are ya?09:32
Dutch70I mean "hobgoblin"09:33
hobgoblinDutch70: pretty good ty - you?09:35
Dutch70>hobgoblin: I'm good thanks. I've just started coming here recently. I really like it.09:38
Dutch70how do you reply directly to me?09:39
Dutch70I just typed your name in there. obviously :))09:40
hobgoblintab complete - type ho<tab>09:40
Dutch70hobgoblin: Nice!!!09:41
hobgoblin:)09:42
Dutch70I'm trying to install Qemu via sudo aptitude install qemu qemulator. and I'm getting....." sudo: aptitude: command not found" Is that right?10:18
Silver_Fox_Hello.10:19
swoodyheya Silver_Fox_ :)10:19
akshatjhello Silver_Fox_10:19
Silver_Fox_Hi swoody , it has been too long!10:19
Silver_Fox_How are you swoody  ?10:19
swoodySilver_Fox_: no kidding! :D10:19
Silver_Fox_Hello akshatj10:19
swoodydoing very well, ty10:20
Silver_Fox_Good good10:20
swoodySilver_Fox_: just landed another raise and a promotion at work, and I start school tomorrow10:20
swoodyhow's things going with you? :)10:20
ChrisDruifDutch70: It should just work, just tried it myself..10:20
Silver_Fox_swoody,  Sounds good, very good infact :)10:20
ChrisDruif@ the rest: maybe better to this in -team?10:21
hobgoblinDutch70: install aptitude first or use apt-get10:21
swoodySilver_Fox_: \o/ I'm happy for you10:21
hobgoblinChrisDruif: lol10:21
ChrisDruifhobgoblin: Isn't aptitude not installed by default?10:21
hobgoblinDutch70: aptitude was removed from the default install10:21
hobgoblinChrisDruif: no longer10:21
Silver_Fox_Correct @ hobgoblin10:22
ChrisDruifOw....on my box it's installed....but I can't remember if I manually installed it...I didn't think I did...10:22
hobgoblinclean install?10:22
ChrisDruifhobgoblin: Mine?10:22
hobgoblinyea10:23
ChrisDruifNo, my installs don't stay clean for long :)10:23
hobgoblinsigh - was it a clean install or an upgrade, an upgrade would still have aptitude a clean install would need it installing10:23
Dutch70hobgoblin: when I try to install aptitude, I get "Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) for starters. Is10:24
ChrisDruifOw...fresh install it was :)10:24
hobgoblinDutch70: you might be using something else - synaptic/add remove10:24
ChrisDruifDutch70: Is some other package manager open atm?10:24
hobgoblinDutch70: only one at a time :)10:24
Dutch70ChrisDruif: ahh, I think so10:25
hobgoblinclose it :)10:25
ChrisDruifhobgoblin: tag-team yeah :D10:25
Dutch70LOL10:26
hobgoblin:)10:26
hobgoblinDutch70: are you all straight with the update manager thing now - from the forums?10:26
Dutch70I think so, but I'm still getting "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)  when I try to install aptitude10:27
Dutch70hobgoblin: as a matter of fact, Igot here from the link in your sig :))10:33
ChrisDruifDutch70: Did you close any program which might lock it? Think of Ubuntu Software Center, Synaptic, (Add/Remove Software in older versions of Ubuntu), other terminal installing software?10:33
hobgoblinDutch70: excellent - glad it works then :)10:33
Dutch70ChrisDruif: There's a good possibility that I did, I've done a lot of install/uninstalls lately.10:34
Dutch70I wouldn't know what though10:34
ChrisDruifDutch70: I mean that they might be running right now :)...10:35
ChrisDruifDid you close any installation before it was done?10:36
Dutch70I don't think so, but a reboot would fix that...correct?10:36
hobgoblinhttp://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6163794&postcount=610:37
ChrisDruifNot always...10:37
hobgoblinDutch70: or that ^^ link - make sure you really don't have any of them open though - check the sys monitor10:37
Dutch70ok...I'll check that, thanks10:38
Dutch70be right back10:39
hobgoblinthat'll be a reboot then ;)10:40
ChrisDruifI think he will O:-)10:41
hobgoblinI'm sure - I know him for a long while :)10:41
ChrisDruifAlright, my first meeting with him :)10:42
hobgoblinChrisDruif: I know him from the forums - he followed the link in my forum sig to here10:43
ChrisDruifYeah, I read :)10:43
hobgoblinthat link seems to work quite often :)10:44
ChrisDruifI'll take a looksy at your link...I'll add it to my own :)10:45
ChrisDruifMade my forum account just yesterday :) (I'm not really a forum kinda guy)10:45
ChrisDruifWelcome back Dutch70 :)10:45
hobgoblinChrisDruif: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10370629&postcount=210:46
hobgoblinDutch70: all ok now I trust10:46
Dutch70Seems to be...a reboot took care of it.10:46
Dutch70as much as I hate to say that :))10:47
hobgoblinnice - you didn't need to reboot - that command would have done it :)10:47
ChrisDruifWhat I would've said :)10:48
ChrisDruifA reboot rm'd that lock-file10:48
hobgoblinyep10:48
Dutch70I tried that command first10:49
ChrisDruifThat didn't work? :-/10:49
Dutch70nope, it didn't do anything.10:49
hobgoblinthat's odd10:49
Dutch70straight back to my name.10:50
hobgoblinthat should of done it then, did you try using whatver failed10:50
Dutch70oh...hahaa...no10:51
hobgoblinDutch70: if you run a command and it goes back to your prompt - it's done what you asked it to do10:51
Dutch70lmbo10:51
hobgoblin:)10:51
ChrisDruifDutch70: It doesn't confirm it removed anything (no terminal spam ;))10:51
Dutch70live & learn I guess, or...linux & learn :)10:52
ChrisDruifIt only tells when something didn't remove :)10:52
Dutch70that's good info & I should have known that10:52
hobgoblinwell you do now - such is learning :)10:53
ChrisDruifDutch70: I presume your used to GUI's :) You visually see that it's removed...10:53
Dutch70yes, I started on Ubuntu a couple years ago,  but got away from it until recently. Forgot everything10:56
ChrisDruifWell, there are multiple ways to check if it's really gone :)10:58
Dutch70hows that?11:00
ChrisDruifIs the folder that contained the file "ls /var/lib/dpkg"11:03
ChrisDruifMight be "ls /var/lib/dpkg/"11:03
ChrisDruifI can't remember exactly, but touch /var/lib/dpkg/lock to see if it's there works (afaik, don't know for sure)11:05
ChrisDruifOr navigate to the folder where it was and see visually if it there....or just try to do what was lock...11:05
ChrisDruifBut in this case, I would suggest the last one :)11:07
Dutch70ok...did the 2nd option...lol. It installed Aptitude & Qemu11:07
ChrisDruifAlright :)11:08
Dutch70Thanks a lot guys, I really apprectiate it.11:08
Dutch70wonder what I'm gonna break today? or should I say "first today" lol11:09
ChrisDruifDutch70: If you a bit careful, nothing much? :)11:10
Dutch70For some reason I like to take risk, that's why I have my 10.10 CD right under my keyboard...lol.11:10
ChrisDruifxD11:11
ChrisDruifMaybe dual-boot? So you have one working install at all times?11:11
hobgoblingood plan - I used to do similar11:12
Dutch70I have Vista & Ubuntu dual boot, was thinking about triple booting with either Kubuntu or Mint though11:12
hobgoblinor even a VM to play and break ,then you can use snapshots and just go back11:12
ChrisDruifKubuntu...meh11:13
ChrisDruifI'm not a KDE fan :)11:13
Dutch70yeah...that's why I was checking out Qemu, hoping it's better than virtualbox. I couldn't get it to recognize my 2nd CPU11:13
ChrisDruifYou've got 2 CPU in your machine? Awesome :D11:14
Dutch70I did an actual install of Kubuntu, but couldn't get enough commands figured out to stick with it.11:14
Dutch70yeah, but a crappy graphics card11:14
ChrisDruifGraphics cards are for gamers :P Most of the time anyway :)11:15
Dutch70got another pc with triple core processors, and a nice graphics card but it needs a motherboard...lightening :(11:15
Dutch70yeah, not much of a gamer, but my Intel kept freezing11:16
Dutch70til I found a workaround11:16
ChrisDruifOw, you've got a dual-core? Not two separate CPU's?11:17
Dutch70I guess, but it shows up as 2 on the host OS, and only 1 in VB11:18
ChrisDruifIn the settings of VB you can select how many cores you can use...did you know that?11:18
ChrisDruifAnd yes, Ubuntu might show it as 2 CPU's....but that is because you CPU can handle 2 physical jobs at once :)11:19
Dutch70oh...so that's how it works.11:20
Dutch70I think I read somewhere that you had to do something with your kernel to get it to show the 2nd cpu11:21
Dutch70or maybe it was your bios & mine didn't have that option, can't really remember11:21
Dutch70and actually I installed Qemulator, can't find Qemu11:24
ChrisDruifQemu is prolly term app...don't know, just guessing...the background service for it :)11:31
Dutch70yeah, I think they11:35
Dutch70changed it...kvm or something11:35
hobgoblinDutch70: have you seen the wiki page for it?11:39
hobgoblinactually ignore that ...11:40
Dutch70hobgoblin: I think I've got it11:42
Dutch70have to check later though...gotta go for now. ttyl11:42
ChrisDruifttyl11:45
MrChrisDruifHai all again :)13:42
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upslausb adsl modem connection problem. currently using ubuntu 10.10 as second OS in my computer. suggestions are invited :)14:41
upslausb adsl modem connection problem. currently using ubuntu 10.10 as second OS in my computer. suggestions are invited :)14:46
aveilleuxupsla: We heard you the first time. Also, we need more details, such as: what make/model modem, what methods you have tried, and what symptoms of the problem you are experiencing.14:48
upslamy modem model is:beetel 100 cx .the modem light is on when plugged into computer.it is listed in lsusb command.i tried the cxacru patch and sudo pppoeconf etc.dmesg shows that adsl is up training done and shows up and down speed.but yet i am not connected to internet .14:52
aveilleuxupsla: Does network-manager-gnome have a connection? ie. is the connection recognized14:53
upslaaveilleux:no14:53
aveilleuxhm14:53
geirhaDoes ''ping 74.125.79.99'' give any replies?14:54
upslaand the for your information the modem does not have any ethernet ports only usb. the modem works fine in windows thats why i able to chat now.14:55
upslageirha:i tried different sets of ip's and each i get unkown host .14:56
geirhaupsla: That suggests you used a hostname, not IP. I was thinking maybe dns wasn't set up properly.14:58
trinikronoupsla: did you set it up in network manager?14:59
geirhaThat ip is one of the ips for google.com14:59
upslageirha:i tried i get the message .ah i forgot the message .i think message shows no active connection15:00
geirhaupsla: Ah ok. Hm.15:01
upslatrinikrono:hi at first place my modem is not detected on network manager then how can i setup anything.15:02
trinikronoand you say lspci lists the device upsla?15:03
trinikronoi mean lsusb15:03
upslatrinikrono:no lsusb lists it.15:04
upslaand not lspci. lspci is used for looking pci type modem right ?.because my modem is of usb type.15:05
trinikronohttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166313115:07
trinikronothis is you right15:07
upslayes15:07
trinikronowhere are you stuck at15:08
trinikronosudo pppoeconf should be able to set it up15:09
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upslatrinikrono:sudo pppoeconf did not work for me . i even raised that problem on my post itself . check it out.15:10
geirhaHm. I gave him that yesterday too.15:12
upslatrinikrono:sudo pppoeconf did not work for me . i even raised that problem on my post itself . check it out.15:17
trinikronowell15:17
trinikronoupsla: where are you stuck15:17
trinikronowith that command15:17
upslasee pppoconf scans for eth0 and nas0.and the setup progress gets struck at 100% while scanning nas0 interface.15:18
upslasee pppoconf scans for eth0 and nas0.and the setup progress gets struck at 100% while scanning nas0 interface.15:23
upslatrinikrono:see pppoconf scans for eth0 and nas0.and the setup progress gets struck at 100% while scanning nas0 interface.15:23
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upslatrinikrono:see pppoconf scans for eth0 and nas0.and the setup progress gets struck at 100% while scanning nas0 interface.15:31
trinikronocan you trry it again upsla15:31
trinikronolike reset it and try to run pppoconf again15:31
trinikronobut you need to make sure about the wan settings15:32
trinikronolike ip addresses etc15:32
upslatrinikrono:i already tried it for more than 10 times.15:32
trinikronoupsla: can you try it on a other ubuntu pc15:32
trinikronolike one that has lucid15:32
trinikronoand see if it works15:33
upslatrinikrono:sorry i have no other system that runs ubuntu.15:33
trinikronotry a live cd then15:33
trinikronojust to see if it passes the pppoconf15:34
upslatrinikrono:i even tried using live cd also pal..15:34
upslatrinikrono:i even tried using live cd also pal..15:35
trinikronooh i know15:36
trinikronotry natty15:36
trinikrono:D15:36
upslatrinikrono:i stavle ubuntu 10.10 installed on my computer. u want to install natty which is still beta ?15:37
upslatrinikrono:i stavle ubuntu 10.10 installed on my computer. u want to install natty which is still beta ?15:39
trinikronono try the live cd15:39
trinikronojust to see if it works15:39
trinikronosometimes the hardware does work with specific kernels15:40
trinikronoso the best thing to do is to try the newest kernel15:40
upslanatty live cd is available ?.i heard it is still in beta.15:40
trinikronoyes it is alpha actually15:40
A_B_Hi, my log files (kernel, system & messages) are growing at a phenomenal rate 400-500 kb a second. Here's a 1 second log at pastebin.com: http://pastebin.com/cyvbczyq15:40
trinikronoi burnt one yesterday15:40
trinikronoand it does boot15:40
aveilleuxWhat are some alternative IM clients to: Pidgin, Empathy, aMSN, Emesnene, or Ayttm? All I can find is Galaxium, which has no packages for Ubuntu.15:41
upslau want me to download it ?15:41
trinikronowe are only trying it too see if pppoconf works upsla15:41
A_B_I'm using Kubuntu 10.10 with the latest kubuntu packages from launchpad15:41
upslau want me to download it ?15:42
trinikronoupsla: yes and see try the live cd15:43
trinikronoA_B_: that looks scary15:43
upslaok thanks pal15:44
A_B_trinikrono, yes it is and I'm afraid I don't understand the log messages so I appreciate any help figuring this out15:45
trinikronoA_B_: did you try in #ubuntu15:47
A_B_trinikrono.. no I though I'd try here first15:47
ShootEmUpHi everyone!16:07
aveilleux Quick poll: XDM or SLiM for a Flux/Open/Blackbox based install? (not all at the same time.)  SLiM is prettier and easier to configure, but XDM is extremely minimal and takes almost nothing in terms of resource16:11
paultagaveilleux: I;ev had nothing but bad times with SLiM16:35
paultagaveilleux: also, fluxbox ftw16:35
aveilleuxpaultag: It's worked just fine the few test cases  I have right now; for the moment I'm defaulting to XDM though.16:37
aveilleuxpaultag: I'm updating my MDU script, so I need to dig down and do some research like I haven't done since I added KDE support16:37
jermzaIf I'm using a desktop and not a laptop, is it necessary for "Power Manager" to boot up with my startup applications?17:31
bioterroryes17:32
jermzawhy?17:32
bioterrorit's okay to not keep your processors running with full steam17:32
bioterrormy cpu can run both cores at 2.7GHz, but they are most of the time chilling at 800MHz17:33
bioterroruses consumpts less electricity17:33
jermzawhat is a recommended setting to have selected?17:34
jermza"go to sleep after 1 hour"?17:34
bioterrorahhh you mean things like that17:34
bioterrormy desktop computer never sleeps17:34
Red-Ravenhey.17:48
JackyAlcineHey Red-Raven17:48
Red-Ravenhay JackyAlcine.17:48
Red-Ravenstill working on that insane pin drive.17:49
JackyAlcineHow is it from last time?17:49
Red-Ravensame. treid DD again. some guy told me to do it without it mounted, but when i plug it in it doesn't mount in the first place. maybe WITH it mounted?17:50
JackyAlcineNO! Red-Raven, I've read somewhere on Wikipedia not to do that!17:51
Red-RavenOK I PROMISE I WON'T! why?17:51
JackyAlcineIt's like formatting a drive while it's mounted, or removing one in use. Same way it's "dangerous" to run fsck while it's mounted.17:52
trinikronoreally dangerous17:52
Red-Ravento the system or the drive? because i WANT the drive to be wiped.17:53
trinikronoRed-Raven: where are you runing fsck frfom17:53
trinikronoyou can use this thing to do it17:53
trinikronopalimpsest17:53
JackyAlcinetrinikrono: She wasn't, but I was comparing that to running sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda17:54
JackyAlcineit's practically rm -rf / to a whole new level.17:54
Red-Ravenum, im a dude...17:54
trinikrono:D17:54
JackyAlcinemy bad. >_<17:55
Red-Ravenlol its fine.17:55
Red-Ravenim not following this. so what are you saying i should do?17:56
JackyAlcineWell, okay.  Your drive doesn't show up in Windows, right?17:56
Red-Ravenit does. in ubuntu and linux.17:56
JackyAlcineBut can you access it? Like pump data to it?17:57
JackyAlcinesudo fdisk -l /dev/sda? To list the drives?17:57
Red-Ravenweird thing is, i think a virus locked it, but only files that should be there, like music etc, are there. no suspicious files.17:57
Red-Raveni will hold on.17:57
trinikronoRed-Raven: if its a virus it would hide in the recycle bin17:59
trinikronoso you wont be able to read17:59
trinikronowhat is the problem?17:59
Red-Ravenin trash in ubuntu?17:59
trinikronoRed-Raven: no you wont see it there18:00
trinikronocan you see the hidden files18:00
trinikronoctrl +h18:01
JackyAlcinetrinikrono: In the lost+found folder?18:01
Red-Ravenran fdisk, wasn't there. maybe /dev/sdb?18:01
trinikronouse palimpsest18:02
trinikronoit would show where it mounted and everything18:02
JackyAlcine^^18:02
Red-Raveni don't have permission to veiw lost+found. that normal?18:02
JackyAlcineRed-Raven: yes.18:03
Red-Ravenok. so should i leave that alone or find a way inside?18:03
trinikronoRed-Raven: what are you trying to do?18:04
trinikronoi am a little confused here18:04
Red-Ravenerase this drive. its write protected.18:04
Red-Ravena virus may have done it.18:04
trinikronois it write protected in ubuntu ?18:05
Red-Ravenno. an old XP machine.18:06
trinikronodid you try to see if the drive is write protected on your ubuntu pc Red-Raven18:10
Red-Ravenwhere ever i plug it in, its write-protected.18:10
Red-Ravenim in ubuntu right now.18:12
Red-Ravenso why not just give permission to myself to enter the lost+found folder if that where the virus is hiding?18:17
trinikronowell if it was a virus18:22
trinikronoit wont be able to make it read only in ubuntu also18:22
Red-Ravenwell it is read only.18:23
trinikronodid you try to chmod already Red-Raven18:23
Red-Ravennope. what is it?18:23
trinikronoifyou access the drive as root18:24
trinikronocan you edit it18:24
trinikronolike gksudo nautilus18:24
trinikronoand see if it is writable then18:24
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Red-Ravenok. so sudo chmod /dev/sbd?18:27
cprofittwhat format is it? ext3/4?18:27
Red-Ravenfat32 i think.18:27
cprofittFat32 does not have permissions18:27
Red-Ravenlet me double check that.18:28
cprofittit might be mounted in read-only mode then18:28
Red-Ravenbtw i got the fdisk for it. you want the output?18:28
cprofittsure18:29
Red-Ravenred-raven@redraven-Presario-CQ62-Notebook-PC:/$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb18:29
Red-RavenDisk /dev/sdb: 8021 MB, 8021606400 bytes18:29
Red-Raven16 heads, 32 sectors/track, 30600 cylinders18:29
Red-RavenUnits = cylinders of 512 * 512 = 262144 bytes18:29
Red-RavenSector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes18:29
Red-RavenI/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes18:29
Red-RavenDisk identifier: 0x0000000018:29
Red-Raven   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System18:29
Red-Raven/dev/sdb1              16       3060018:29
Red-Ravenyah its FAT3218:29
cprofittis sdb a USB device?18:29
Red-Ravenyes.18:30
cprofitthave you tried to remount it?18:30
Red-Ravennope.18:30
cprofittgive that a try18:30
Red-Ravenits already mounted. so unmount then remount?18:30
cprofittyes18:30
Red-Ravenwait now it says its not mounted. last time i plugged it in it auto mounted. WTF...its so schizophrenic.18:32
Red-Ravenerror: Daemon is inhibited.18:32
cprofittreboot the computer... (I do not know how to restart the daemon)18:33
cprofittand then retry18:33
trinikrono:D18:33
Red-Ravenok. first though, should i do the Chmod thing?18:33
trinikronoi wanted to look at the drive as root18:34
Red-Ravenok. so what the command?18:35
trinikronochmod would change the files to writeable18:35
trinikronoif it was set elsewhere18:35
Red-Ravenawesome.18:35
trinikronogksudo nautilus18:35
Red-Raventhats the command?18:35
trinikronothat would open a root nautilus18:35
trinikronoand you try and see if it is writeable18:35
Red-Ravenoh ok. that wouldn't give the virus a shot at me would it?18:35
trinikrononope18:36
Red-Ravensweet.18:36
trinikronobut dont mess with anything other than the drive18:36
trinikronoyou can break things with that18:36
Red-Ravenok thx.18:36
Red-Raventhe drive isn't in there.18:37
Red-Raventhis thing is so frustrating. its probably hiding because it knows a root nautilus can kill it.18:41
trinikronono its there18:46
trinikronolook in :///computer18:46
trinikronoits bound to be in there somewhere18:46
Red-Ravenjust put that in under search for files?18:47
Red-Ravenok i found the computer directory in the root nautilus, but an error said it couldn't handle it.18:53
trinikronoo.o18:54
Red-Ravenwhat, is that bad?18:54
trinikronodo you know where the drive is mounted18:54
trinikronoso you can browse to that18:54
Red-Ravenwill fdisk find it?18:54
trinikronohears what18:55
trinikronorun this command18:55
trinikronopalimpsest18:55
trinikronoand tellme when it comes up18:55
Red-Raventhe disk utility.18:56
trinikronoyes18:56
trinikronocheeck the drive18:56
trinikronoit should show you wheres it mounnted and stuff18:57
trinikronoandyou can see18:57
trinikronothat is allows you check the drive too18:57
trinikrononifty stuff18:57
trinikronomake sure its the usb drive though18:58
cprofittsorry for having to cut out on the discussion19:02
cprofitttrinikrono: thanks for taking over19:02
trinikrono:)19:03
Red-Ravenshoult i reboot? the deamon error keeps poping up. (what is that btw?)19:03
trinikronoRed-Raven: did you reboot as yet19:03
Red-Ravensays its been inhibited.19:03
cprofittdid you reboot when I asked you too?19:03
Red-Ravenno not yet. i can.19:03
cprofittyes, please do... that may clear the error19:03
Red-Raveni was going to try the chmod first.19:03
Red-Ravenbut i'll reboot now.19:03
Red-Ravenbrb.19:04
Red-Ravenback.19:06
Red-Ravenfile check showed up clean.19:07
Red-Ravenwhat now? mount?19:08
trinikronoRed-Raven: the drive is up right19:12
trinikronoso you can browse it?19:12
Red-Ravenyes.19:12
Red-Ravenyes.19:12
Red-Ravenbut read only.19:12
trinikronoright19:13
cprofittit is read-only after reboot?19:13
trinikronotry the gksudo nautilus19:13
trinikronoand see if it is still readonly19:13
cprofitttrink - Fat32 has not permissions19:13
Red-Ravenits there this time.19:13
Red-Ravenshould i try and delete something?19:14
cprofittjust try creating something19:14
cprofittthat should tell you19:14
Red-Ravenits let me make a new folder,19:14
trinikronoi think its the drive19:14
trinikrono:D19:14
trinikronowas it a cheap drive?19:15
Red-Ravenmeh. it was Chrismas gift 2 years ago. but its 8GB id like to use again.19:15
trinikronoyou made the folder?19:15
cprofittwell... pull the data off19:15
cprofittthen re-format19:16
Red-Raveni dont want the data.19:16
cprofittthen just reformat it19:16
Red-Ravenactually, i might get one folder.19:16
cprofittuse the disk utility, unmount it, reformat it19:16
cprofittjust ensure you get any data you want19:16
cprofittdouble check19:16
Red-Ravenso how do i format from nautilus?'19:17
cprofittyou do not19:18
cprofittuse the disk utility from the System | Administration menu19:18
Red-Ravenugh! it won't let me delete! says read only.19:19
cprofittdo not delete19:19
cprofittunmount19:19
cprofittthen format19:19
cprofittunless your usb drive has a read-only toggle siwtch19:19
cprofittphysical switch19:20
Red-Ravenwell when i unmouunted it left the root nautilus.19:20
Red-Ravenit doesn't19:20
cprofittclose nautilus19:20
cprofittuse the disk utility19:20
cprofittgo to System19:20
cprofittAdministration19:20
cprofittDisk Utility19:20
trinikronohe might need to install you know19:20
trinikronoit only shows up on the live-cd19:20
trinikronoapt-get install gparted19:21
Red-Raventreid to format from the disk editor: Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb1: Input/output error19:21
trinikronosudo:D19:21
Red-Raventried*19:21
Red-Raveni have Gparted already.19:21
cprofitttrinikrono: no gparted isn't necessary the disk utility is installed by default19:21
cprofittdid you delete the existing partition(s)?19:21
Red-Ravenno hold on.19:22
Red-Ravengot this error while trying to delete the partition: Error erasing: helper exited with exit code 1: In part_del_partition: device_file=/dev/sdb, offset=412876819:23
Red-RavenEntering MS-DOS parser (offset=0, size=8021606400)19:23
Red-RavenMSDOS_MAGIC found19:23
Red-Ravenlooking at part 0 (offset 4128768, size 8017477632, type 0x0c)19:23
Red-Ravennew part entry19:23
Red-Ravenlooking at part 1 (offset 0, size 0, type 0x00)19:23
Red-Ravennew part entry19:23
Red-Ravenlooking at part 2 (offset 0, size 0, type 0x00)19:23
Red-Ravennew part entry19:23
Red-Ravenlooking at part 3 (offset 0, size 0, type 0x00)19:23
Red-Ravennew part entry19:23
Red-RavenExiting MS-DOS parser19:23
Red-RavenMSDOS partition table detected19:23
Red-Ravengot it19:23
Red-Ravengot disk19:23
Red-Ravengot partition - part->type=019:23
Red-RavenError: Input/output error during write on /dev/sdb19:23
cprofittweird...19:24
cprofittI have not seen that happen19:24
Red-Ravenyah....19:25
cprofittit is not mounted is it?19:25
Red-Ravennioe.19:25
Red-Ravennope*19:25
cprofittdo you have access to a Windows machine?19:25
Red-Ravenyes. i dual boot. why?19:26
cprofittI would boot to Windows and see if it lets you reformat19:28
Red-Ravennow whenever i do anything in the disk utility it says the daemon is inhibited again. could my opening Gparted have done that?19:28
cprofittI think we may have a file system corruption19:29
cprofittand that is triggering the driver to revert to read-only mode19:29
cprofittthough I do not know why with the FS unmounted it owuld not allow you to reformat19:29
Red-Ravenive chacked it for badblocks if that's what you mean.19:29
cprofittno, I mean FS corruption19:30
cprofittas in the dos file table or something at the FS level19:30
Red-Ravenwhat does that mean? like what's happened to it>19:30
Red-Raven?*19:30
cprofittwell... a FS translastes things to the block level19:31
cprofittthere is a chance the translation is foobar19:31
Red-Ravenso the thing that translates data to and from it may be toast?19:32
cprofittor just corrupted19:33
cprofittbut Windows may detect that better...19:33
Red-Ravenanyway to repair it?19:33
cprofittyou could try to run a diskcheck on it in Windows19:33
Red-Ravenok. ill switch.19:34
cprofittok19:34
odfhhvhjnnngHey. So this is sort of concerning. On star up, windows started doing a disk check.19:39
odfhhvhjnnngOh btw I'm red.19:40
Red-Ravenhey. so on start up windows ran a rather long disk check. should i be worried?19:42
cprofittno -- it might have been checking that USB disk if it was in at boot up19:43
Red-Ravenit wasn't. it was checking C.19:43
holsteinRed-Raven: did it break something?19:44
Red-Ravenno...19:44
cprofittcan you access the usb drive in Windows?19:45
Red-Ravenyes,19:46
Red-Ravenso now what?19:50
holsteinRed-Raven: whats the issue?19:51
holsteindid you try formatting in windows?19:51
holsteinthe USB drive?19:51
Red-Ravensame thing. trying to format the USB.19:52
holsteinRed-Raven: what that?19:52
Red-Raven?19:52
holsteinwhats it do?19:53
holsteinnothing?19:53
Red-Ravenread-only.19:53
ShootEmUpHi everyone19:53
holsteinRed-Raven: is it a USB stick?19:53
ShootEmUphey Red-Raven19:53
Red-Ravenyes.19:53
ShootEmUphey holstein19:53
holsteinShootEmUp: hey :)19:53
Red-Ravenhey ShootEmUp19:53
holsteinRed-Raven: maybe its reached 'end-of-life' status :/19:54
holsteini had one that was dying19:54
Red-Ravenits 2 years old....19:54
holsteini got it to format in windows19:54
holsteinand thought i had saved it19:54
holsteinbut it was dead19:54
holsteini wouldnt lose sleep over it, you can probably replace it for 6 bucks now19:55
holsteinthats about all the trick i know of19:55
holsteintricks*19:55
Red-Ravenwould defragin it do anything?19:55
Red-Ravendefraging*19:56
holsteinit might defragment it19:56
holsteinmight just set there and chew on it19:56
cprofittRed-Raven: if it will not let you reformat in Windows...19:56
cprofittor Linux19:56
cprofittI would be more suspicous of hardware failure19:56
Red-RavenHA! it let me change permissions! ill try it now...19:57
cprofittok19:57
Red-Ravennope...19:57
cprofittbut FAT32 has no permissions19:57
trinikronocprofitt:  i thought it was the drive20:02
trinikronodrives are cheap!20:02
cprofitttrinikrono: with all that we have tried I would be apt to conclude that20:02
cprofittthough... I have yet to have a USB drive go bad on me in that manner20:03
trinikronooh i know!20:03
cprofittI support 7200 users and have been doing this for 14 years...20:03
cprofittso it seems odd as heck20:03
trinikronorunthe usb creator20:03
cprofittbut it is about all that is left20:03
trinikronoif that does not work20:03
trinikrononothing will!20:03
trinikronomake a usb maverick out of it20:04
Red-Ravenwhat do you mean>20:04
Red-Raven?*20:04
trinikronoRed-Raven: try the usb creator20:04
trinikronoand see if it can do anything with the drive20:05
Red-Ravenis it built into windows?20:05
trinikronothe usb startup disk creator20:06
trinikronoif you are in windows20:06
trinikronoyou can use this20:06
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trinikronohttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer.exe20:07
Red-Ravenwon't the drive still be protected?20:12
kristian-aalborgif you should recommend one website for someone totally new to ubuntu/linux, what would it be?20:12
Red-Ravenubuntu forums.org.20:12
Red-Raventhats mine at least.20:12
kristian-aalborgthat's a very good one, true20:13
trinikronoi have a nice one20:13
Red-Ravenyou're not new though, are you?20:13
trinikronohttp://ubuntuguide.org20:13
Red-Ravenhow is the USB creator supposed to fix this?20:14
trinikronowell it formats drives20:20
trinikronoso its something20:20
Red-Raven_hey sry. so how will using the USB creator fix it?20:23
cprofittRed-Raven_: it might not be...20:24
cprofittI wish I could see the machine... I usually can get through stuff like this, but it is at times hard to walk folks through20:25
cprofittbut if Windows will not let you write to it or format it...20:25
cprofittI would guess it is a hardware issue20:25
Red-Raven_well if the USB creator can't remove the write protection....20:26
Red-Raven_then there's not much it can do.20:26
trinikrono:D exacta20:28
trinikronobut at least you can try20:29
Red-Raven_um, i don't see how it will be any different.20:30
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trinikronoRed-Raven_: well its up to you20:31
trinikronobut thats what iwould of tried next20:31
Red-Raven_well, ill switch to ubuntu and give it a shot,20:31
Red-Ravenso just get usb creator common for Gnome and use it with an ISO on the flash drive?20:39
trinikronoyes20:40
trinikronoubuntu has it built in20:40
kristian-aalborgRed-Raven: I went for the wikipedia ubuntu page20:40
Red-Ravenoh ok.20:41
Red-Ravenwhere is it>20:42
Red-Raven?*20:42
Red-Raveni think i need to get it from synaptic. its  not under apps or admin.20:46
Red-Ravenill be back later.20:59
Red-Ravenhey. anyone know where to find the USB creator in ubuntu?21:56
MrChrisDruifHai Red-Raven :) Don't you have to install it?21:58
Red-Ravenit says it already is in synaptic.21:58
Red-Ravenand i beleive it comes built in.21:58
trinikronoits under administration21:58
trinikronoyou using maverick?21:59
Red-Ravenyah thx. found it.21:59
Red-Ravenand it makes bootable maverick USBs?21:59
trinikronoif you have the iso :D22:00
Red-Ravengot an I/O error when i tried to erase it.22:00
Red-Ravenshould i point it towards and ISO before i do it>22:01
Red-Raven?*22:02
trinikronowell it might seem22:05
trinikronothat might be it for the drive22:05
trinikronoi/o errors are bad=\22:05
Red-Raven...what do they mean?22:06
Red-Raveni've gotten them a few times now with this thing.22:06
Red-Ravenand now i can't pick and ISO. i click on it, click open, the browser closes, and it goes back to the start up disk creator, but under "Disk Image/ISO" there is nothing.22:09
Red-Ravenoh does it have to be an Ubuntu ISO?22:10
trinikronoyes that would help22:11
trinikronoif you used the pendriveapps one22:11
trinikronoit would support more22:11
Red-Ravenoh im using a backtrack 4 ISO.22:11
Red-Ravendon't care which ISO it is. i just want to be able to erase this thing.22:12
bioterrorthrow that usb stick away and get yourself a new one :D22:13
bioterroryou've been trying to do something for it like a week now22:13
trinikrono+122:14
Red-Ravenhey, if i can get it working, then thats +8GB free space for me to make a persistent USB stick with and OS on it.22:14
Red-Raventhx. the 64 bit maverick ISO worked,22:14
Red-Ravendidn't work. couldn't write to a tmp file.22:16
Red-Raventhis is freaking redicules. im starting to think that something is wrong at the hardware level. is there a way to tell?22:17
Red-Ravenwell, i think im just going to replace it with a new 34 GB drive. but ill hang on to this one as my "ultimate challenge". who knows.22:26
MrChrisDruifRed-Raven: You do ;)22:33
Red-Raveni know what?22:33
MrChrisDruifIf you are going to replace it with a 34GB drive and if you are going to hang on to this one as your "ultimate challenge" :)22:34
edlikCan anyone help with ubuntu laptop wireless problem? It used to work on vacation in hotels, but since I installed a cisco linksyse3000 at home it wont connect. it says its connected but I can not get out22:35
Red-Raveni meant who knows? i may find a fix for it sometimes.22:35
Red-Ravenuninstall cisco?22:36
MrChrisDruifOw....sentence was a bit wrong....understood it differently :)22:37
Red-Ravenoh i get it ognore that.22:37
Red-Ravenedlik, you can't get out of what?22:38
MrChrisDruifRed-Raven: On the interwebs ;)22:38
edlikRed-Raven: sorry, I can not get onto the internet although it says I am connected22:39
Red-Ravenok...22:39
Red-Ravenhm...firewall?22:39
MrChrisDruifIP-block?22:39
edlikIt works if I plug in the ethernet cable, but not wirless22:40
edlikno firewall22:40
trinikronodelete the wireless networks22:40
trinikronoit might have one that had the same name22:41
trinikronolike linksys22:41
edlikI have deleted all of them and set a new one, but a notification still pops up that says "***** is disconected" (***** was a previously used hotel connection). All of these are deleted, where else could they be stored?22:52
duanedesignhello edlik...hmm interesting22:54
Red-Ravenim trying to make a backtrack 4 persistent USB drive. can i make it from a Virtual machine of backtrack? (sry. i know there is a bacltrack IRC but i can't speak for some reason. if i need to take this somewhere else just let me know)22:55
duanedesignedlik: what does your /etc/network/interfaces look like? Can you pastebin it23:07
techmik67i keep running into this problem..... I have an atheros onboard network adapter that wont do 5Ghz, so i bought the cisco/Linksys ae1000..... it's not officially supported...... so...23:08
techmik67i blacklisted the atheros23:09
techmik67and then http://pastebin.com/vTMNDNWR23:09
techmik67poof... ra0 exists and connects @5Ghz23:09
techmik67until i reboot....=(23:10
techmik67then i gotta wipe it and do it again.....23:10
duanedesigntechmik67: hello23:14
techmik67hi23:14
duanedesignyou want to not have to run sudo modprobe ra0 everytime you reboot23:14
edlikduanedesign: Im not to good at the terminal, do I type anything before /etc/network/interfaces?23:15
techmik67yes i want to just be able to connect to my connection, as i would normally23:15
Red-Ravenif i just click install on any distro and point it to a USB pin drive will it be persistent?23:15
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Yes, but you have to be very careful to install GRUB to a partition and not the MBR (since some Flash drives don't have master boot records)23:18
Red-Ravenmust i install GRUB seperatly?23:18
aveilleuxRed-Raven: No, just install it to wherever /boot is located23:19
aveilleuxRed-Raven: Usually / if you don't use multiple partitions23:20
duanedesigntechmik67: add ra0 to the bottom of /etc/modules23:22
techmik67ah.. just ra0, thats it? got it!23:23
techmik67thx23:23
duanedesigntechmik67: then the module should load auttomagically23:23
techmik67thx again =)23:23
duanedesignedlik: also  I thinkn you need to set DHCP(automatic) in order to auto connect. Edit Connections > auto * > Edit > IPV4 settings23:25
techmik67ok, configure tv signal.....23:26
techmik67set up tv signal23:27
duanedesignedlik: cat /etc/network/interfaces  <--that should print the file to the terminal. Then you can copy and paste it in ubuntu.pastebin.com, click paste, and post link.23:27
edlikduanedesign: all are already set to DHCP(automatic)23:28
edlikok23:28
edlikduanedesign: ubuntu.pastebin.com/fgK5sekm23:32
* duanedesign looking23:32
duanedesignedlik: hmm, that seems ok23:33

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