[00:00]  * jasono is back (gone 00:07:59)
[00:02] <geirha> Red-Raven: Missing a / there ... and of course, be careful you get the last letter right ;)
[00:02] <geirha> !away | jasono
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[00:03] <jasono> okey
[00:03] <jasono> sorry
[00:05] <geirha> No worries
[00:25] <egossett> how do we know if we are being noisy
[00:39] <johnny77> I'm running fluxbox, installed from Ubuntu 10.10. - I just opened Update Manager. It lists 4 updates, but when I click installed updates, it does nothing.
[02:12] <JackyAlcine> The channel's pretty quiet tonight.
[02:13] <JackyAlcine> techmik67; did you fix your issue with the kernel?
[02:17] <techmik67> yup
[02:17] <techmik67> well
[02:17] <techmik67> not the kernel issue, but i got my usb wifi working again
[02:17] <techmik67> http://pastebin.com/vTMNDNWR
[02:18] <techmik67> i still get that error msg on boot, but it doesn tseem to affect anything....
[02:19] <JackyAlcine> hm, and I don't see any way of repressing neither.
[02:19] <techmik67> i thought it was part of my wifi problem, but i guess not
[02:19] <techmik67> and modules.dep DOES exist, anyway.....
[02:20] <techmik67> so i'm ok
[02:20] <techmik67> want to share that fix though... i'm sure i'm not the only person who wants to use that adapter
[02:25] <JackyAlcine> Post in on http://www.ubuntuforums.com/
[02:29] <JackyAlcine> I need to know your kernel version, naresh_
[02:29] <naresh_> hi...
[02:30] <naresh_> im new to ubuntu, i installed ubuntu 10.10
[02:30] <naresh_> well, i have an issue in setting up wireless on my laptop
[02:34] <JackyAlcine> What's the version of your Linux kernel, naresh_? Like v 2.26-35.24? You can find it in System Mointor's first tab.
[02:36] <naresh_> 2.6.35-22-generic
[02:41] <JackyAlcine> What exactly is the issue with your setup?
[02:41] <JackyAlcine> Connectivity? Configuration?
[02:43] <naresh_> i could able to see wireless network showing up in network list...
[02:44] <naresh_> i have doubts on BSSID  and clone mac address in wireless setup..
[02:44] <naresh_> configuration problem...
[02:45] <JackyAlcine> So you can't go online (doubting) or is it just a network setup?
[02:45] <JackyAlcine> Can you provide me with a screenshot? (http://www.imagebin.com)
[02:45] <naresh_> sure
[02:55] <naresh_> http://imagebin.us/viewer.php?file=qqsuinpecv8gg43rt6lo.png
[03:00] <naresh_> i can only connect thru wired.. not from wireless
[03:01] <JackyAlcine> naresh_: When you click on the NetworkManager indicator; does it show Enable Wireless to be checked or greyed out?
[03:03] <naresh_> i could not see it...i could only see enable networking
[03:04] <JackyAlcine> Hm, your wireless driver might not be supported.
[03:05] <naresh_> do i have to install any driver?
[03:05] <JackyAlcine> Yes. And your kernel's 35-generic?
[03:06] <JackyAlcine> sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic
[03:06] <naresh_> yes
[03:07] <JackyAlcine> That instruction should download the correct drivers for your system.
[03:07] <JackyAlcine> You can also find it in Synaptic.
[03:08] <naresh_> i got unable to locate package
[03:10] <naresh_> my kernel is linux 2.6.35-22-generic
[03:11] <JackyAlcine> open up Synaptic and search for linux wireless modules
[03:14] <naresh_> there is pcmciautils
[03:31] <naresh_> what is Cloned Mac Address for setting up wireless network?
[03:33] <asterismo> hi people, its been so long...
[03:45] <JackyAlcine> naresh_: It's unnecessary for a wireless connection, but it's the MAC address that your device would take when connected to that network.
[03:47] <naresh_> JackyAlicine_: I have given Mac Address of Router, but for Cloned Mac Address i dont know what should be provided...!!
[03:49] <JackyAlcine> You can leave it empty; most connections don't require it unless it filters the MAC addresses.
[03:49] <naresh_> ok..
[03:49] <naresh_> and is BSSID is same as SSID- that is name of wireless connection that we wanted to connect right?
[03:50] <JackyAlcine> Yup.
[03:52] <naresh_> in the screenshot i think, i have provided all these details, but not sure if any other details to be provided to fix this issue..
[03:52] <JackyAlcine> yeah, neither can I. I'm sorry.
[03:53] <naresh_> np..
[06:27] <a4able> wifi not working in my dell netbook
[06:27] <a4able> works well in windows
[06:27] <a4able> pls help
[06:41] <yax51_> a4able: what version of ubuntu you running?
[06:42] <yax51_> a4able: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[07:25] <jermza> When I click on Places, my home directory appear, as they should.  For some reason, one of my folders OUTSIDE of the default "Music" "Videos" etc is appearing in the dropdown menu.  Its not supposed to be there.
[07:42] <bioterror> seems like there's no opensource solution for pdf to doc or excel
[07:43] <JackyAlcine> PDF to excel? Never seen that.
[07:43] <JackyAlcine> But yeah, PDF to Doc opensource is depressing. =/
[07:44] <hobgoblin> morning
[07:44] <bioterror> I just used a website to do it
[07:44] <bioterror> :D
[07:50] <bioterror> and that looks like a puke :D
[07:50] <bioterror> not my problem, I think :D
[08:11] <geirha> Meh, open the pdf, Ctrl+A Ctrl+C, open OpenOffice Writer, Ctrl+V and save ;P
[08:36] <bioterror> geirha, doesnt work with evince
[08:36] <bioterror> as this is a scanned pdf
[08:55] <geirha> Ah, so you need OCR software
[09:21] <hobgoblin> Dutch70: imagine seeing you in here :)
[09:32] <Dutch70> heya forest...lol. How are ya?
[09:33] <Dutch70> I mean "hobgoblin"
[09:35] <hobgoblin> Dutch70: pretty good ty - you?
[09:38] <Dutch70> >hobgoblin: I'm good thanks. I've just started coming here recently. I really like it.
[09:39] <Dutch70> how do you reply directly to me?
[09:40] <Dutch70> I just typed your name in there. obviously :))
[09:40] <hobgoblin> tab complete - type ho<tab>
[09:41] <Dutch70> hobgoblin: Nice!!!
[09:42] <hobgoblin> :)
[10:18] <Dutch70> I'm trying to install Qemu via sudo aptitude install qemu qemulator. and I'm getting....." sudo: aptitude: command not found" Is that right?
[10:19] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[10:19] <swoody> heya Silver_Fox_ :)
[10:19] <akshatj> hello Silver_Fox_
[10:19] <Silver_Fox_> Hi swoody , it has been too long!
[10:19] <Silver_Fox_> How are you swoody  ?
[10:19] <swoody> Silver_Fox_: no kidding! :D
[10:19] <Silver_Fox_> Hello akshatj
[10:20] <swoody> doing very well, ty
[10:20] <Silver_Fox_> Good good
[10:20] <swoody> Silver_Fox_: just landed another raise and a promotion at work, and I start school tomorrow
[10:20] <swoody> how's things going with you? :)
[10:20] <ChrisDruif> Dutch70: It should just work, just tried it myself..
[10:20] <Silver_Fox_> swoody,  Sounds good, very good infact :)
[10:21] <ChrisDruif> @ the rest: maybe better to this in -team?
[10:21] <hobgoblin> Dutch70: install aptitude first or use apt-get
[10:21] <swoody> Silver_Fox_: \o/ I'm happy for you
[10:21] <hobgoblin> ChrisDruif: lol
[10:21] <ChrisDruif> hobgoblin: Isn't aptitude not installed by default?
[10:21] <hobgoblin> Dutch70: aptitude was removed from the default install
[10:21] <hobgoblin> ChrisDruif: no longer
[10:22] <Silver_Fox_> Correct @ hobgoblin
[10:22] <ChrisDruif> Ow....on my box it's installed....but I can't remember if I manually installed it...I didn't think I did...
[10:22] <hobgoblin> clean install?
[10:22] <ChrisDruif> hobgoblin: Mine?
[10:23] <hobgoblin> yea
[10:23] <ChrisDruif> No, my installs don't stay clean for long :)
[10:23] <hobgoblin> sigh - was it a clean install or an upgrade, an upgrade would still have aptitude a clean install would need it installing
[10:24] <Dutch70> hobgoblin: when I try to install aptitude, I get "Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) for starters. Is
[10:24] <ChrisDruif> Ow...fresh install it was :)
[10:24] <hobgoblin> Dutch70: you might be using something else - synaptic/add remove
[10:24] <ChrisDruif> Dutch70: Is some other package manager open atm?
[10:24] <hobgoblin> Dutch70: only one at a time :)
[10:25] <Dutch70> ChrisDruif: ahh, I think so
[10:25] <hobgoblin> close it :)
[10:25] <ChrisDruif> hobgoblin: tag-team yeah :D
[10:26] <Dutch70> LOL
[10:26] <hobgoblin> :)
[10:26] <hobgoblin> Dutch70: are you all straight with the update manager thing now - from the forums?
[10:27] <Dutch70> I think so, but I'm still getting "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)  when I try to install aptitude
[10:33] <Dutch70> hobgoblin: as a matter of fact, Igot here from the link in your sig :))
[10:33] <ChrisDruif> Dutch70: Did you close any program which might lock it? Think of Ubuntu Software Center, Synaptic, (Add/Remove Software in older versions of Ubuntu), other terminal installing software?
[10:33] <hobgoblin> Dutch70: excellent - glad it works then :)
[10:34] <Dutch70> ChrisDruif: There's a good possibility that I did, I've done a lot of install/uninstalls lately.
[10:34] <Dutch70> I wouldn't know what though
[10:35] <ChrisDruif> Dutch70: I mean that they might be running right now :)...
[10:36] <ChrisDruif> Did you close any installation before it was done?
[10:36] <Dutch70> I don't think so, but a reboot would fix that...correct?
[10:37] <hobgoblin> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6163794&postcount=6
[10:37] <ChrisDruif> Not always...
[10:37] <hobgoblin> Dutch70: or that ^^ link - make sure you really don't have any of them open though - check the sys monitor
[10:38] <Dutch70> ok...I'll check that, thanks
[10:39] <Dutch70> be right back
[10:40] <hobgoblin> that'll be a reboot then ;)
[10:41] <ChrisDruif> I think he will O:-)
[10:41] <hobgoblin> I'm sure - I know him for a long while :)
[10:42] <ChrisDruif> Alright, my first meeting with him :)
[10:43] <hobgoblin> ChrisDruif: I know him from the forums - he followed the link in my forum sig to here
[10:43] <ChrisDruif> Yeah, I read :)
[10:44] <hobgoblin> that link seems to work quite often :)
[10:45] <ChrisDruif> I'll take a looksy at your link...I'll add it to my own :)
[10:45] <ChrisDruif> Made my forum account just yesterday :) (I'm not really a forum kinda guy)
[10:45] <ChrisDruif> Welcome back Dutch70 :)
[10:46] <hobgoblin> ChrisDruif: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10370629&postcount=2
[10:46] <hobgoblin> Dutch70: all ok now I trust
[10:46] <Dutch70> Seems to be...a reboot took care of it.
[10:47] <Dutch70> as much as I hate to say that :))
[10:47] <hobgoblin> nice - you didn't need to reboot - that command would have done it :)
[10:48] <ChrisDruif> What I would've said :)
[10:48] <ChrisDruif> A reboot rm'd that lock-file
[10:48] <hobgoblin> yep
[10:49] <Dutch70> I tried that command first
[10:49] <ChrisDruif> That didn't work? :-/
[10:49] <Dutch70> nope, it didn't do anything.
[10:49] <hobgoblin> that's odd
[10:50] <Dutch70> straight back to my name.
[10:50] <hobgoblin> that should of done it then, did you try using whatver failed
[10:51] <Dutch70> oh...hahaa...no
[10:51] <hobgoblin> Dutch70: if you run a command and it goes back to your prompt - it's done what you asked it to do
[10:51] <Dutch70> lmbo
[10:51] <hobgoblin> :)
[10:51] <ChrisDruif> Dutch70: It doesn't confirm it removed anything (no terminal spam ;))
[10:52] <Dutch70> live & learn I guess, or...linux & learn :)
[10:52] <ChrisDruif> It only tells when something didn't remove :)
[10:52] <Dutch70> that's good info & I should have known that
[10:53] <hobgoblin> well you do now - such is learning :)
[10:53] <ChrisDruif> Dutch70: I presume your used to GUI's :) You visually see that it's removed...
[10:56] <Dutch70> yes, I started on Ubuntu a couple years ago,  but got away from it until recently. Forgot everything
[10:58] <ChrisDruif> Well, there are multiple ways to check if it's really gone :)
[11:00] <Dutch70> hows that?
[11:03] <ChrisDruif> Is the folder that contained the file "ls /var/lib/dpkg"
[11:03] <ChrisDruif> Might be "ls /var/lib/dpkg/"
[11:05] <ChrisDruif> I can't remember exactly, but touch /var/lib/dpkg/lock to see if it's there works (afaik, don't know for sure)
[11:05] <ChrisDruif> Or navigate to the folder where it was and see visually if it there....or just try to do what was lock...
[11:07] <ChrisDruif> But in this case, I would suggest the last one :)
[11:07] <Dutch70> ok...did the 2nd option...lol. It installed Aptitude & Qemu
[11:08] <ChrisDruif> Alright :)
[11:08] <Dutch70> Thanks a lot guys, I really apprectiate it.
[11:09] <Dutch70> wonder what I'm gonna break today? or should I say "first today" lol
[11:10] <ChrisDruif> Dutch70: If you a bit careful, nothing much? :)
[11:10] <Dutch70> For some reason I like to take risk, that's why I have my 10.10 CD right under my keyboard...lol.
[11:11] <ChrisDruif> xD
[11:11] <ChrisDruif> Maybe dual-boot? So you have one working install at all times?
[11:12] <hobgoblin> good plan - I used to do similar
[11:12] <Dutch70> I have Vista & Ubuntu dual boot, was thinking about triple booting with either Kubuntu or Mint though
[11:12] <hobgoblin> or even a VM to play and break ,then you can use snapshots and just go back
[11:13] <ChrisDruif> Kubuntu...meh
[11:13] <ChrisDruif> I'm not a KDE fan :)
[11:13] <Dutch70> yeah...that's why I was checking out Qemu, hoping it's better than virtualbox. I couldn't get it to recognize my 2nd CPU
[11:14] <ChrisDruif> You've got 2 CPU in your machine? Awesome :D
[11:14] <Dutch70> I did an actual install of Kubuntu, but couldn't get enough commands figured out to stick with it.
[11:14] <Dutch70> yeah, but a crappy graphics card
[11:15] <ChrisDruif> Graphics cards are for gamers :P Most of the time anyway :)
[11:15] <Dutch70> got another pc with triple core processors, and a nice graphics card but it needs a motherboard...lightening :(
[11:16] <Dutch70> yeah, not much of a gamer, but my Intel kept freezing
[11:16] <Dutch70> til I found a workaround
[11:17] <ChrisDruif> Ow, you've got a dual-core? Not two separate CPU's?
[11:18] <Dutch70> I guess, but it shows up as 2 on the host OS, and only 1 in VB
[11:18] <ChrisDruif> In the settings of VB you can select how many cores you can use...did you know that?
[11:19] <ChrisDruif> And yes, Ubuntu might show it as 2 CPU's....but that is because you CPU can handle 2 physical jobs at once :)
[11:20] <Dutch70> oh...so that's how it works.
[11:21] <Dutch70> I think I read somewhere that you had to do something with your kernel to get it to show the 2nd cpu
[11:21] <Dutch70> or maybe it was your bios & mine didn't have that option, can't really remember
[11:24] <Dutch70> and actually I installed Qemulator, can't find Qemu
[11:31] <ChrisDruif> Qemu is prolly term app...don't know, just guessing...the background service for it :)
[11:35] <Dutch70> yeah, I think they
[11:35] <Dutch70> changed it...kvm or something
[11:39] <hobgoblin> Dutch70: have you seen the wiki page for it?
[11:40] <hobgoblin> actually ignore that ...
[11:42] <Dutch70> hobgoblin: I think I've got it
[11:42] <Dutch70> have to check later though...gotta go for now. ttyl
[11:45] <ChrisDruif> ttyl
[13:42] <MrChrisDruif> Hai all again :)
[14:41] <upsla> usb adsl modem connection problem. currently using ubuntu 10.10 as second OS in my computer. suggestions are invited :)
[14:46] <upsla> usb adsl modem connection problem. currently using ubuntu 10.10 as second OS in my computer. suggestions are invited :)
[14:48] <aveilleux> upsla: We heard you the first time. Also, we need more details, such as: what make/model modem, what methods you have tried, and what symptoms of the problem you are experiencing.
[14:52] <upsla> my modem model is:beetel 100 cx .the modem light is on when plugged into computer.it is listed in lsusb command.i tried the cxacru patch and sudo pppoeconf etc.dmesg shows that adsl is up training done and shows up and down speed.but yet i am not connected to internet .
[14:53] <aveilleux> upsla: Does network-manager-gnome have a connection? ie. is the connection recognized
[14:53] <upsla> aveilleux:no
[14:53] <aveilleux> hm
[14:54] <geirha> Does ''ping 74.125.79.99'' give any replies?
[14:55] <upsla> and the for your information the modem does not have any ethernet ports only usb. the modem works fine in windows thats why i able to chat now.
[14:56] <upsla> geirha:i tried different sets of ip's and each i get unkown host .
[14:58] <geirha> upsla: That suggests you used a hostname, not IP. I was thinking maybe dns wasn't set up properly.
[14:59] <trinikrono> upsla: did you set it up in network manager?
[14:59] <geirha> That ip is one of the ips for google.com
[15:00] <upsla> geirha:i tried i get the message .ah i forgot the message .i think message shows no active connection
[15:01] <geirha> upsla: Ah ok. Hm.
[15:02] <upsla> trinikrono:hi at first place my modem is not detected on network manager then how can i setup anything.
[15:03] <trinikrono> and you say lspci lists the device upsla?
[15:03] <trinikrono> i mean lsusb
[15:04] <upsla> trinikrono:no lsusb lists it.
[15:05] <upsla> and not lspci. lspci is used for looking pci type modem right ?.because my modem is of usb type.
[15:07] <trinikrono> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1663131
[15:07] <trinikrono> this is you right
[15:07] <upsla> yes
[15:08] <trinikrono> where are you stuck at
[15:09] <trinikrono> sudo pppoeconf should be able to set it up
[15:09]  * jasono is away: The Cape
[15:09] <aveilleux> !away | jasono
[15:09] <ubot2> jasono: You should avoid noisy away messages and -nicks in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»
[15:10] <upsla> trinikrono:sudo pppoeconf did not work for me . i even raised that problem on my post itself . check it out.
[15:12] <geirha> Hm. I gave him that yesterday too.
[15:17] <upsla> trinikrono:sudo pppoeconf did not work for me . i even raised that problem on my post itself . check it out.
[15:17] <trinikrono> well
[15:17] <trinikrono> upsla: where are you stuck
[15:17] <trinikrono> with that command
[15:18] <upsla> see pppoconf scans for eth0 and nas0.and the setup progress gets struck at 100% while scanning nas0 interface.
[15:23] <upsla> see pppoconf scans for eth0 and nas0.and the setup progress gets struck at 100% while scanning nas0 interface.
[15:23] <upsla> trinikrono:see pppoconf scans for eth0 and nas0.and the setup progress gets struck at 100% while scanning nas0 interface.
[15:31] <upsla> trinikrono:see pppoconf scans for eth0 and nas0.and the setup progress gets struck at 100% while scanning nas0 interface.
[15:31] <trinikrono> can you trry it again upsla
[15:31] <trinikrono> like reset it and try to run pppoconf again
[15:32] <trinikrono> but you need to make sure about the wan settings
[15:32] <trinikrono> like ip addresses etc
[15:32] <upsla> trinikrono:i already tried it for more than 10 times.
[15:32] <trinikrono> upsla: can you try it on a other ubuntu pc
[15:32] <trinikrono> like one that has lucid
[15:33] <trinikrono> and see if it works
[15:33] <upsla> trinikrono:sorry i have no other system that runs ubuntu.
[15:33] <trinikrono> try a live cd then
[15:34] <trinikrono> just to see if it passes the pppoconf
[15:34] <upsla> trinikrono:i even tried using live cd also pal..
[15:35] <upsla> trinikrono:i even tried using live cd also pal..
[15:36] <trinikrono> oh i know
[15:36] <trinikrono> try natty
[15:36] <trinikrono> :D
[15:37] <upsla> trinikrono:i stavle ubuntu 10.10 installed on my computer. u want to install natty which is still beta ?
[15:39] <upsla> trinikrono:i stavle ubuntu 10.10 installed on my computer. u want to install natty which is still beta ?
[15:39] <trinikrono> no try the live cd
[15:39] <trinikrono> just to see if it works
[15:40] <trinikrono> sometimes the hardware does work with specific kernels
[15:40] <trinikrono> so the best thing to do is to try the newest kernel
[15:40] <upsla> natty live cd is available ?.i heard it is still in beta.
[15:40] <trinikrono> yes it is alpha actually
[15:40] <A_B_> Hi, my log files (kernel, system & messages) are growing at a phenomenal rate 400-500 kb a second. Here's a 1 second log at pastebin.com: http://pastebin.com/cyvbczyq
[15:40] <trinikrono> i burnt one yesterday
[15:40] <trinikrono> and it does boot
[15:41] <aveilleux> What are some alternative IM clients to: Pidgin, Empathy, aMSN, Emesnene, or Ayttm? All I can find is Galaxium, which has no packages for Ubuntu.
[15:41] <upsla> u want me to download it ?
[15:41] <trinikrono> we are only trying it too see if pppoconf works upsla
[15:41] <A_B_> I'm using Kubuntu 10.10 with the latest kubuntu packages from launchpad
[15:42] <upsla> u want me to download it ?
[15:43] <trinikrono> upsla: yes and see try the live cd
[15:43] <trinikrono> A_B_: that looks scary
[15:44] <upsla> ok thanks pal
[15:45] <A_B_> trinikrono, yes it is and I'm afraid I don't understand the log messages so I appreciate any help figuring this out
[15:47] <trinikrono> A_B_: did you try in #ubuntu
[15:47] <A_B_> trinikrono.. no I though I'd try here first
[16:07] <ShootEmUp> Hi everyone!
[16:11] <aveilleux>  Quick poll: XDM or SLiM for a Flux/Open/Blackbox based install? (not all at the same time.)  SLiM is prettier and easier to configure, but XDM is extremely minimal and takes almost nothing in terms of resource
[16:35] <paultag> aveilleux: I;ev had nothing but bad times with SLiM
[16:35] <paultag> aveilleux: also, fluxbox ftw
[16:37] <aveilleux> paultag: It's worked just fine the few test cases  I have right now; for the moment I'm defaulting to XDM though.
[16:37] <aveilleux> paultag: I'm updating my MDU script, so I need to dig down and do some research like I haven't done since I added KDE support
[17:31] <jermza> If I'm using a desktop and not a laptop, is it necessary for "Power Manager" to boot up with my startup applications?
[17:32] <bioterror> yes
[17:32] <jermza> why?
[17:32] <bioterror> it's okay to not keep your processors running with full steam
[17:33] <bioterror> my cpu can run both cores at 2.7GHz, but they are most of the time chilling at 800MHz
[17:33] <bioterror> uses consumpts less electricity
[17:34] <jermza> what is a recommended setting to have selected?
[17:34] <jermza> "go to sleep after 1 hour"?
[17:34] <bioterror> ahhh you mean things like that
[17:34] <bioterror> my desktop computer never sleeps
[17:48] <Red-Raven> hey.
[17:48] <JackyAlcine> Hey Red-Raven
[17:48] <Red-Raven> hay JackyAlcine.
[17:49] <Red-Raven> still working on that insane pin drive.
[17:49] <JackyAlcine> How is it from last time?
[17:50] <Red-Raven> same. treid DD again. some guy told me to do it without it mounted, but when i plug it in it doesn't mount in the first place. maybe WITH it mounted?
[17:51] <JackyAlcine> NO! Red-Raven, I've read somewhere on Wikipedia not to do that!
[17:51] <Red-Raven> OK I PROMISE I WON'T! why?
[17:52] <JackyAlcine> It's like formatting a drive while it's mounted, or removing one in use. Same way it's "dangerous" to run fsck while it's mounted.
[17:52] <trinikrono> really dangerous
[17:53] <Red-Raven> to the system or the drive? because i WANT the drive to be wiped.
[17:53] <trinikrono> Red-Raven: where are you runing fsck frfom
[17:53] <trinikrono> you can use this thing to do it
[17:53] <trinikrono> palimpsest
[17:54] <JackyAlcine> trinikrono: She wasn't, but I was comparing that to running sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[17:54] <JackyAlcine> it's practically rm -rf / to a whole new level.
[17:54] <Red-Raven> um, im a dude...
[17:54] <trinikrono> :D
[17:55] <JackyAlcine> my bad. >_<
[17:55] <Red-Raven> lol its fine.
[17:56] <Red-Raven> im not following this. so what are you saying i should do?
[17:56] <JackyAlcine> Well, okay.  Your drive doesn't show up in Windows, right?
[17:56] <Red-Raven> it does. in ubuntu and linux.
[17:57] <JackyAlcine> But can you access it? Like pump data to it?
[17:57] <JackyAlcine> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda? To list the drives?
[17:57] <Red-Raven> weird thing is, i think a virus locked it, but only files that should be there, like music etc, are there. no suspicious files.
[17:57] <Red-Raven> i will hold on.
[17:59] <trinikrono> Red-Raven: if its a virus it would hide in the recycle bin
[17:59] <trinikrono> so you wont be able to read
[17:59] <trinikrono> what is the problem?
[17:59] <Red-Raven> in trash in ubuntu?
[18:00] <trinikrono> Red-Raven: no you wont see it there
[18:00] <trinikrono> can you see the hidden files
[18:01] <trinikrono> ctrl +h
[18:01] <JackyAlcine> trinikrono: In the lost+found folder?
[18:01] <Red-Raven> ran fdisk, wasn't there. maybe /dev/sdb?
[18:02] <trinikrono> use palimpsest
[18:02] <trinikrono> it would show where it mounted and everything
[18:02] <JackyAlcine> ^^
[18:02] <Red-Raven> i don't have permission to veiw lost+found. that normal?
[18:03] <JackyAlcine> Red-Raven: yes.
[18:03] <Red-Raven> ok. so should i leave that alone or find a way inside?
[18:04] <trinikrono> Red-Raven: what are you trying to do?
[18:04] <trinikrono> i am a little confused here
[18:04] <Red-Raven> erase this drive. its write protected.
[18:04] <Red-Raven> a virus may have done it.
[18:05] <trinikrono> is it write protected in ubuntu ?
[18:06] <Red-Raven> no. an old XP machine.
[18:10] <trinikrono> did you try to see if the drive is write protected on your ubuntu pc Red-Raven
[18:10] <Red-Raven> where ever i plug it in, its write-protected.
[18:12] <Red-Raven> im in ubuntu right now.
[18:17] <Red-Raven> so why not just give permission to myself to enter the lost+found folder if that where the virus is hiding?
[18:22] <trinikrono> well if it was a virus
[18:22] <trinikrono> it wont be able to make it read only in ubuntu also
[18:23] <Red-Raven> well it is read only.
[18:23] <trinikrono> did you try to chmod already Red-Raven
[18:23] <Red-Raven> nope. what is it?
[18:24] <trinikrono> ifyou access the drive as root
[18:24] <trinikrono> can you edit it
[18:24] <trinikrono> like gksudo nautilus
[18:24] <trinikrono> and see if it is writable then
[18:27] <Red-Raven> ok. so sudo chmod /dev/sbd?
[18:27] <cprofitt> what format is it? ext3/4?
[18:27] <Red-Raven> fat32 i think.
[18:27] <cprofitt> Fat32 does not have permissions
[18:28] <Red-Raven> let me double check that.
[18:28] <cprofitt> it might be mounted in read-only mode then
[18:28] <Red-Raven> btw i got the fdisk for it. you want the output?
[18:29] <cprofitt> sure
[18:29] <Red-Raven> red-raven@redraven-Presario-CQ62-Notebook-PC:/$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[18:29] <Red-Raven> Disk /dev/sdb: 8021 MB, 8021606400 bytes
[18:29] <Red-Raven> 16 heads, 32 sectors/track, 30600 cylinders
[18:29] <Red-Raven> Units = cylinders of 512 * 512 = 262144 bytes
[18:29] <Red-Raven> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[18:29] <Red-Raven> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[18:29] <Red-Raven> Disk identifier: 0x00000000
[18:29] <Red-Raven>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[18:29] <Red-Raven> /dev/sdb1              16       30600
[18:29] <Red-Raven> yah its FAT32
[18:29] <cprofitt> is sdb a USB device?
[18:30] <Red-Raven> yes.
[18:30] <cprofitt> have you tried to remount it?
[18:30] <Red-Raven> nope.
[18:30] <cprofitt> give that a try
[18:30] <Red-Raven> its already mounted. so unmount then remount?
[18:30] <cprofitt> yes
[18:32] <Red-Raven> wait now it says its not mounted. last time i plugged it in it auto mounted. WTF...its so schizophrenic.
[18:32] <Red-Raven> error: Daemon is inhibited.
[18:33] <cprofitt> reboot the computer... (I do not know how to restart the daemon)
[18:33] <cprofitt> and then retry
[18:33] <trinikrono> :D
[18:33] <Red-Raven> ok. first though, should i do the Chmod thing?
[18:34] <trinikrono> i wanted to look at the drive as root
[18:35] <Red-Raven> ok. so what the command?
[18:35] <trinikrono> chmod would change the files to writeable
[18:35] <trinikrono> if it was set elsewhere
[18:35] <Red-Raven> awesome.
[18:35] <trinikrono> gksudo nautilus
[18:35] <Red-Raven> thats the command?
[18:35] <trinikrono> that would open a root nautilus
[18:35] <trinikrono> and you try and see if it is writeable
[18:35] <Red-Raven> oh ok. that wouldn't give the virus a shot at me would it?
[18:36] <trinikrono> nope
[18:36] <Red-Raven> sweet.
[18:36] <trinikrono> but dont mess with anything other than the drive
[18:36] <trinikrono> you can break things with that
[18:36] <Red-Raven> ok thx.
[18:37] <Red-Raven> the drive isn't in there.
[18:41] <Red-Raven> this thing is so frustrating. its probably hiding because it knows a root nautilus can kill it.
[18:46] <trinikrono> no its there
[18:46] <trinikrono> look in :///computer
[18:46] <trinikrono> its bound to be in there somewhere
[18:47] <Red-Raven> just put that in under search for files?
[18:53] <Red-Raven> ok i found the computer directory in the root nautilus, but an error said it couldn't handle it.
[18:54] <trinikrono> o.o
[18:54] <Red-Raven> what, is that bad?
[18:54] <trinikrono> do you know where the drive is mounted
[18:54] <trinikrono> so you can browse to that
[18:54] <Red-Raven> will fdisk find it?
[18:55] <trinikrono> hears what
[18:55] <trinikrono> run this command
[18:55] <trinikrono> palimpsest
[18:55] <trinikrono> and tellme when it comes up
[18:56] <Red-Raven> the disk utility.
[18:56] <trinikrono> yes
[18:56] <trinikrono> cheeck the drive
[18:57] <trinikrono> it should show you wheres it mounnted and stuff
[18:57] <trinikrono> andyou can see
[18:57] <trinikrono> that is allows you check the drive too
[18:57] <trinikrono> nifty stuff
[18:58] <trinikrono> make sure its the usb drive though
[19:02] <cprofitt> sorry for having to cut out on the discussion
[19:02] <cprofitt> trinikrono: thanks for taking over
[19:03] <trinikrono> :)
[19:03] <Red-Raven> shoult i reboot? the deamon error keeps poping up. (what is that btw?)
[19:03] <trinikrono> Red-Raven: did you reboot as yet
[19:03] <Red-Raven> says its been inhibited.
[19:03] <cprofitt> did you reboot when I asked you too?
[19:03] <Red-Raven> no not yet. i can.
[19:03] <cprofitt> yes, please do... that may clear the error
[19:03] <Red-Raven> i was going to try the chmod first.
[19:03] <Red-Raven> but i'll reboot now.
[19:04] <Red-Raven> brb.
[19:06] <Red-Raven> back.
[19:07] <Red-Raven> file check showed up clean.
[19:08] <Red-Raven> what now? mount?
[19:12] <trinikrono> Red-Raven: the drive is up right
[19:12] <trinikrono> so you can browse it?
[19:12] <Red-Raven> yes.
[19:12] <Red-Raven> yes.
[19:12] <Red-Raven> but read only.
[19:13] <trinikrono> right
[19:13] <cprofitt> it is read-only after reboot?
[19:13] <trinikrono> try the gksudo nautilus
[19:13] <trinikrono> and see if it is still readonly
[19:13] <cprofitt> trink - Fat32 has not permissions
[19:13] <Red-Raven> its there this time.
[19:14] <Red-Raven> should i try and delete something?
[19:14] <cprofitt> just try creating something
[19:14] <cprofitt> that should tell you
[19:14] <Red-Raven> its let me make a new folder,
[19:14] <trinikrono> i think its the drive
[19:14] <trinikrono> :D
[19:15] <trinikrono> was it a cheap drive?
[19:15] <Red-Raven> meh. it was Chrismas gift 2 years ago. but its 8GB id like to use again.
[19:15] <trinikrono> you made the folder?
[19:15] <cprofitt> well... pull the data off
[19:16] <cprofitt> then re-format
[19:16] <Red-Raven> i dont want the data.
[19:16] <cprofitt> then just reformat it
[19:16] <Red-Raven> actually, i might get one folder.
[19:16] <cprofitt> use the disk utility, unmount it, reformat it
[19:16] <cprofitt> just ensure you get any data you want
[19:16] <cprofitt> double check
[19:17] <Red-Raven> so how do i format from nautilus?'
[19:18] <cprofitt> you do not
[19:18] <cprofitt> use the disk utility from the System | Administration menu
[19:19] <Red-Raven> ugh! it won't let me delete! says read only.
[19:19] <cprofitt> do not delete
[19:19] <cprofitt> unmount
[19:19] <cprofitt> then format
[19:19] <cprofitt> unless your usb drive has a read-only toggle siwtch
[19:20] <cprofitt> physical switch
[19:20] <Red-Raven> well when i unmouunted it left the root nautilus.
[19:20] <Red-Raven> it doesn't
[19:20] <cprofitt> close nautilus
[19:20] <cprofitt> use the disk utility
[19:20] <cprofitt> go to System
[19:20] <cprofitt> Administration
[19:20] <cprofitt> Disk Utility
[19:20] <trinikrono> he might need to install you know
[19:20] <trinikrono> it only shows up on the live-cd
[19:21] <trinikrono> apt-get install gparted
[19:21] <Red-Raven> treid to format from the disk editor: Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb1: Input/output error
[19:21] <trinikrono> sudo:D
[19:21] <Red-Raven> tried*
[19:21] <Red-Raven> i have Gparted already.
[19:21] <cprofitt> trinikrono: no gparted isn't necessary the disk utility is installed by default
[19:21] <cprofitt> did you delete the existing partition(s)?
[19:22] <Red-Raven> no hold on.
[19:23] <Red-Raven> got this error while trying to delete the partition: Error erasing: helper exited with exit code 1: In part_del_partition: device_file=/dev/sdb, offset=4128768
[19:23] <Red-Raven> Entering MS-DOS parser (offset=0, size=8021606400)
[19:23] <Red-Raven> MSDOS_MAGIC found
[19:23] <Red-Raven> looking at part 0 (offset 4128768, size 8017477632, type 0x0c)
[19:23] <Red-Raven> new part entry
[19:23] <Red-Raven> looking at part 1 (offset 0, size 0, type 0x00)
[19:23] <Red-Raven> new part entry
[19:23] <Red-Raven> looking at part 2 (offset 0, size 0, type 0x00)
[19:23] <Red-Raven> new part entry
[19:23] <Red-Raven> looking at part 3 (offset 0, size 0, type 0x00)
[19:23] <Red-Raven> new part entry
[19:23] <Red-Raven> Exiting MS-DOS parser
[19:23] <Red-Raven> MSDOS partition table detected
[19:23] <Red-Raven> got it
[19:23] <Red-Raven> got disk
[19:23] <Red-Raven> got partition - part->type=0
[19:23] <Red-Raven> Error: Input/output error during write on /dev/sdb
[19:24] <cprofitt> weird...
[19:24] <cprofitt> I have not seen that happen
[19:25] <Red-Raven> yah....
[19:25] <cprofitt> it is not mounted is it?
[19:25] <Red-Raven> nioe.
[19:25] <Red-Raven> nope*
[19:25] <cprofitt> do you have access to a Windows machine?
[19:26] <Red-Raven> yes. i dual boot. why?
[19:28] <cprofitt> I would boot to Windows and see if it lets you reformat
[19:28] <Red-Raven> now whenever i do anything in the disk utility it says the daemon is inhibited again. could my opening Gparted have done that?
[19:29] <cprofitt> I think we may have a file system corruption
[19:29] <cprofitt> and that is triggering the driver to revert to read-only mode
[19:29] <cprofitt> though I do not know why with the FS unmounted it owuld not allow you to reformat
[19:29] <Red-Raven> ive chacked it for badblocks if that's what you mean.
[19:30] <cprofitt> no, I mean FS corruption
[19:30] <cprofitt> as in the dos file table or something at the FS level
[19:30] <Red-Raven> what does that mean? like what's happened to it>
[19:30] <Red-Raven> ?*
[19:31] <cprofitt> well... a FS translastes things to the block level
[19:31] <cprofitt> there is a chance the translation is foobar
[19:32] <Red-Raven> so the thing that translates data to and from it may be toast?
[19:33] <cprofitt> or just corrupted
[19:33] <cprofitt> but Windows may detect that better...
[19:33] <Red-Raven> anyway to repair it?
[19:33] <cprofitt> you could try to run a diskcheck on it in Windows
[19:34] <Red-Raven> ok. ill switch.
[19:34] <cprofitt> ok
[19:39] <odfhhvhjnnng> Hey. So this is sort of concerning. On star up, windows started doing a disk check.
[19:40] <odfhhvhjnnng> Oh btw I'm red.
[19:42] <Red-Raven> hey. so on start up windows ran a rather long disk check. should i be worried?
[19:43] <cprofitt> no -- it might have been checking that USB disk if it was in at boot up
[19:43] <Red-Raven> it wasn't. it was checking C.
[19:44] <holstein> Red-Raven: did it break something?
[19:44] <Red-Raven> no...
[19:45] <cprofitt> can you access the usb drive in Windows?
[19:46] <Red-Raven> yes,
[19:50] <Red-Raven> so now what?
[19:51] <holstein> Red-Raven: whats the issue?
[19:51] <holstein> did you try formatting in windows?
[19:51] <holstein> the USB drive?
[19:52] <Red-Raven> same thing. trying to format the USB.
[19:52] <holstein> Red-Raven: what that?
[19:52] <Red-Raven> ?
[19:53] <holstein> whats it do?
[19:53] <holstein> nothing?
[19:53] <Red-Raven> read-only.
[19:53] <ShootEmUp> Hi everyone
[19:53] <holstein> Red-Raven: is it a USB stick?
[19:53] <ShootEmUp> hey Red-Raven
[19:53] <Red-Raven> yes.
[19:53] <ShootEmUp> hey holstein
[19:53] <holstein> ShootEmUp: hey :)
[19:53] <Red-Raven> hey ShootEmUp
[19:54] <holstein> Red-Raven: maybe its reached 'end-of-life' status :/
[19:54] <holstein> i had one that was dying
[19:54] <Red-Raven> its 2 years old....
[19:54] <holstein> i got it to format in windows
[19:54] <holstein> and thought i had saved it
[19:54] <holstein> but it was dead
[19:55] <holstein> i wouldnt lose sleep over it, you can probably replace it for 6 bucks now
[19:55] <holstein> thats about all the trick i know of
[19:55] <holstein> tricks*
[19:55] <Red-Raven> would defragin it do anything?
[19:56] <Red-Raven> defraging*
[19:56] <holstein> it might defragment it
[19:56] <holstein> might just set there and chew on it
[19:56] <cprofitt> Red-Raven: if it will not let you reformat in Windows...
[19:56] <cprofitt> or Linux
[19:56] <cprofitt> I would be more suspicous of hardware failure
[19:57] <Red-Raven> HA! it let me change permissions! ill try it now...
[19:57] <cprofitt> ok
[19:57] <Red-Raven> nope...
[19:57] <cprofitt> but FAT32 has no permissions
[20:02] <trinikrono> cprofitt:  i thought it was the drive
[20:02] <trinikrono> drives are cheap!
[20:02] <cprofitt> trinikrono: with all that we have tried I would be apt to conclude that
[20:03] <cprofitt> though... I have yet to have a USB drive go bad on me in that manner
[20:03] <trinikrono> oh i know!
[20:03] <cprofitt> I support 7200 users and have been doing this for 14 years...
[20:03] <cprofitt> so it seems odd as heck
[20:03] <trinikrono> runthe usb creator
[20:03] <cprofitt> but it is about all that is left
[20:03] <trinikrono> if that does not work
[20:03] <trinikrono> nothing will!
[20:04] <trinikrono> make a usb maverick out of it
[20:04] <Red-Raven> what do you mean>
[20:04] <Red-Raven> ?*
[20:04] <trinikrono> Red-Raven: try the usb creator
[20:05] <trinikrono> and see if it can do anything with the drive
[20:05] <Red-Raven> is it built into windows?
[20:06] <trinikrono> the usb startup disk creator
[20:06] <trinikrono> if you are in windows
[20:06] <trinikrono> you can use this
[20:07] <trinikrono> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer.exe
[20:12] <Red-Raven> won't the drive still be protected?
[20:12] <kristian-aalborg> if you should recommend one website for someone totally new to ubuntu/linux, what would it be?
[20:12] <Red-Raven> ubuntu forums.org.
[20:12] <Red-Raven> thats mine at least.
[20:13] <kristian-aalborg> that's a very good one, true
[20:13] <trinikrono> i have a nice one
[20:13] <Red-Raven> you're not new though, are you?
[20:13] <trinikrono> http://ubuntuguide.org
[20:14] <Red-Raven> how is the USB creator supposed to fix this?
[20:20] <trinikrono> well it formats drives
[20:20] <trinikrono> so its something
[20:23] <Red-Raven_> hey sry. so how will using the USB creator fix it?
[20:24] <cprofitt> Red-Raven_: it might not be...
[20:25] <cprofitt> I wish I could see the machine... I usually can get through stuff like this, but it is at times hard to walk folks through
[20:25] <cprofitt> but if Windows will not let you write to it or format it...
[20:25] <cprofitt> I would guess it is a hardware issue
[20:26] <Red-Raven_> well if the USB creator can't remove the write protection....
[20:26] <Red-Raven_> then there's not much it can do.
[20:28] <trinikrono> :D exacta
[20:29] <trinikrono> but at least you can try
[20:30] <Red-Raven_> um, i don't see how it will be any different.
[20:31] <trinikrono> Red-Raven_: well its up to you
[20:31] <trinikrono> but thats what iwould of tried next
[20:31] <Red-Raven_> well, ill switch to ubuntu and give it a shot,
[20:39] <Red-Raven> so just get usb creator common for Gnome and use it with an ISO on the flash drive?
[20:40] <trinikrono> yes
[20:40] <trinikrono> ubuntu has it built in
[20:40] <kristian-aalborg> Red-Raven: I went for the wikipedia ubuntu page
[20:41] <Red-Raven> oh ok.
[20:42] <Red-Raven> where is it>
[20:42] <Red-Raven> ?*
[20:46] <Red-Raven> i think i need to get it from synaptic. its  not under apps or admin.
[20:59] <Red-Raven> ill be back later.
[21:56] <Red-Raven> hey. anyone know where to find the USB creator in ubuntu?
[21:58] <MrChrisDruif> Hai Red-Raven :) Don't you have to install it?
[21:58] <Red-Raven> it says it already is in synaptic.
[21:58] <Red-Raven> and i beleive it comes built in.
[21:58] <trinikrono> its under administration
[21:59] <trinikrono> you using maverick?
[21:59] <Red-Raven> yah thx. found it.
[21:59] <Red-Raven> and it makes bootable maverick USBs?
[22:00] <trinikrono> if you have the iso :D
[22:00] <Red-Raven> got an I/O error when i tried to erase it.
[22:01] <Red-Raven> should i point it towards and ISO before i do it>
[22:02] <Red-Raven> ?*
[22:05] <trinikrono> well it might seem
[22:05] <trinikrono> that might be it for the drive
[22:05] <trinikrono> i/o errors are bad=\
[22:06] <Red-Raven> ...what do they mean?
[22:06] <Red-Raven> i've gotten them a few times now with this thing.
[22:09] <Red-Raven> and now i can't pick and ISO. i click on it, click open, the browser closes, and it goes back to the start up disk creator, but under "Disk Image/ISO" there is nothing.
[22:10] <Red-Raven> oh does it have to be an Ubuntu ISO?
[22:11] <trinikrono> yes that would help
[22:11] <trinikrono> if you used the pendriveapps one
[22:11] <trinikrono> it would support more
[22:11] <Red-Raven> oh im using a backtrack 4 ISO.
[22:12] <Red-Raven> don't care which ISO it is. i just want to be able to erase this thing.
[22:13] <bioterror> throw that usb stick away and get yourself a new one :D
[22:13] <bioterror> you've been trying to do something for it like a week now
[22:14] <trinikrono> +1
[22:14] <Red-Raven> hey, if i can get it working, then thats +8GB free space for me to make a persistent USB stick with and OS on it.
[22:14] <Red-Raven> thx. the 64 bit maverick ISO worked,
[22:16] <Red-Raven> didn't work. couldn't write to a tmp file.
[22:17] <Red-Raven> this is freaking redicules. im starting to think that something is wrong at the hardware level. is there a way to tell?
[22:26] <Red-Raven> well, i think im just going to replace it with a new 34 GB drive. but ill hang on to this one as my "ultimate challenge". who knows.
[22:33] <MrChrisDruif> Red-Raven: You do ;)
[22:33] <Red-Raven> i know what?
[22:34] <MrChrisDruif> If you are going to replace it with a 34GB drive and if you are going to hang on to this one as your "ultimate challenge" :)
[22:35] <edlik> Can anyone help with ubuntu laptop wireless problem? It used to work on vacation in hotels, but since I installed a cisco linksyse3000 at home it wont connect. it says its connected but I can not get out
[22:35] <Red-Raven> i meant who knows? i may find a fix for it sometimes.
[22:36] <Red-Raven> uninstall cisco?
[22:37] <MrChrisDruif> Ow....sentence was a bit wrong....understood it differently :)
[22:37] <Red-Raven> oh i get it ognore that.
[22:38] <Red-Raven> edlik, you can't get out of what?
[22:38] <MrChrisDruif> Red-Raven: On the interwebs ;)
[22:39] <edlik> Red-Raven: sorry, I can not get onto the internet although it says I am connected
[22:39] <Red-Raven> ok...
[22:39] <Red-Raven> hm...firewall?
[22:39] <MrChrisDruif> IP-block?
[22:40] <edlik> It works if I plug in the ethernet cable, but not wirless
[22:40] <edlik> no firewall
[22:40] <trinikrono> delete the wireless networks
[22:41] <trinikrono> it might have one that had the same name
[22:41] <trinikrono> like linksys
[22:52] <edlik> I have deleted all of them and set a new one, but a notification still pops up that says "***** is disconected" (***** was a previously used hotel connection). All of these are deleted, where else could they be stored?
[22:54] <duanedesign> hello edlik...hmm interesting
[22:55] <Red-Raven> im trying to make a backtrack 4 persistent USB drive. can i make it from a Virtual machine of backtrack? (sry. i know there is a bacltrack IRC but i can't speak for some reason. if i need to take this somewhere else just let me know)
[23:07] <duanedesign> edlik: what does your /etc/network/interfaces look like? Can you pastebin it
[23:08] <techmik67> i keep running into this problem..... I have an atheros onboard network adapter that wont do 5Ghz, so i bought the cisco/Linksys ae1000..... it's not officially supported...... so...
[23:09] <techmik67> i blacklisted the atheros
[23:09] <techmik67> and then http://pastebin.com/vTMNDNWR
[23:09] <techmik67> poof... ra0 exists and connects @5Ghz
[23:10] <techmik67> until i reboot....=(
[23:10] <techmik67> then i gotta wipe it and do it again.....
[23:14] <duanedesign> techmik67: hello
[23:14] <techmik67> hi
[23:14] <duanedesign> you want to not have to run sudo modprobe ra0 everytime you reboot
[23:15] <edlik> duanedesign: Im not to good at the terminal, do I type anything before /etc/network/interfaces?
[23:15] <techmik67> yes i want to just be able to connect to my connection, as i would normally
[23:15] <Red-Raven> if i just click install on any distro and point it to a USB pin drive will it be persistent?
[23:18] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: Yes, but you have to be very careful to install GRUB to a partition and not the MBR (since some Flash drives don't have master boot records)
[23:18] <Red-Raven> must i install GRUB seperatly?
[23:19] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: No, just install it to wherever /boot is located
[23:20] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: Usually / if you don't use multiple partitions
[23:22] <duanedesign> techmik67: add ra0 to the bottom of /etc/modules
[23:23] <techmik67> ah.. just ra0, thats it? got it!
[23:23] <techmik67> thx
[23:23] <duanedesign> techmik67: then the module should load auttomagically
[23:23] <techmik67> thx again =)
[23:25] <duanedesign> edlik: also  I thinkn you need to set DHCP(automatic) in order to auto connect. Edit Connections > auto * > Edit > IPV4 settings
[23:26] <techmik67> ok, configure tv signal.....
[23:27] <techmik67> set up tv signal
[23:27] <duanedesign> edlik: cat /etc/network/interfaces  <--that should print the file to the terminal. Then you can copy and paste it in ubuntu.pastebin.com, click paste, and post link.
[23:28] <edlik> duanedesign: all are already set to DHCP(automatic)
[23:28] <edlik> ok
[23:32] <edlik> duanedesign: ubuntu.pastebin.com/fgK5sekm
[23:32]  * duanedesign looking
[23:33] <duanedesign> edlik: hmm, that seems ok