[00:00] * jasono is back (gone 00:07:59) [00:02] Red-Raven: Missing a / there ... and of course, be careful you get the last letter right ;) [00:02] !away | jasono [00:02] jasono: You should avoid noisy away messages and -nicks in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away " to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines» [00:03] okey [00:03] sorry [00:05] No worries [00:25] how do we know if we are being noisy [00:39] I'm running fluxbox, installed from Ubuntu 10.10. - I just opened Update Manager. It lists 4 updates, but when I click installed updates, it does nothing. [02:12] The channel's pretty quiet tonight. [02:13] techmik67; did you fix your issue with the kernel? [02:17] yup [02:17] well [02:17] not the kernel issue, but i got my usb wifi working again [02:17] http://pastebin.com/vTMNDNWR [02:18] i still get that error msg on boot, but it doesn tseem to affect anything.... [02:19] hm, and I don't see any way of repressing neither. [02:19] i thought it was part of my wifi problem, but i guess not [02:19] and modules.dep DOES exist, anyway..... [02:20] so i'm ok [02:20] want to share that fix though... i'm sure i'm not the only person who wants to use that adapter [02:25] Post in on http://www.ubuntuforums.com/ [02:29] I need to know your kernel version, naresh_ [02:29] hi... [02:30] im new to ubuntu, i installed ubuntu 10.10 [02:30] well, i have an issue in setting up wireless on my laptop [02:34] What's the version of your Linux kernel, naresh_? Like v 2.26-35.24? You can find it in System Mointor's first tab. [02:36] 2.6.35-22-generic [02:41] What exactly is the issue with your setup? [02:41] Connectivity? Configuration? [02:43] i could able to see wireless network showing up in network list... [02:44] i have doubts on BSSID and clone mac address in wireless setup.. [02:44] configuration problem... [02:45] So you can't go online (doubting) or is it just a network setup? [02:45] Can you provide me with a screenshot? (http://www.imagebin.com) [02:45] sure [02:55] http://imagebin.us/viewer.php?file=qqsuinpecv8gg43rt6lo.png [03:00] i can only connect thru wired.. not from wireless [03:01] naresh_: When you click on the NetworkManager indicator; does it show Enable Wireless to be checked or greyed out? [03:03] i could not see it...i could only see enable networking [03:04] Hm, your wireless driver might not be supported. [03:05] do i have to install any driver? [03:05] Yes. And your kernel's 35-generic? [03:06] sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic [03:06] yes [03:07] That instruction should download the correct drivers for your system. [03:07] You can also find it in Synaptic. [03:08] i got unable to locate package [03:10] my kernel is linux 2.6.35-22-generic [03:11] open up Synaptic and search for linux wireless modules [03:14] there is pcmciautils [03:31] what is Cloned Mac Address for setting up wireless network? [03:33] hi people, its been so long... [03:45] naresh_: It's unnecessary for a wireless connection, but it's the MAC address that your device would take when connected to that network. [03:47] JackyAlicine_: I have given Mac Address of Router, but for Cloned Mac Address i dont know what should be provided...!! [03:49] You can leave it empty; most connections don't require it unless it filters the MAC addresses. [03:49] ok.. [03:49] and is BSSID is same as SSID- that is name of wireless connection that we wanted to connect right? [03:50] Yup. [03:52] in the screenshot i think, i have provided all these details, but not sure if any other details to be provided to fix this issue.. [03:52] yeah, neither can I. I'm sorry. [03:53] np.. [06:27] wifi not working in my dell netbook [06:27] works well in windows [06:27] pls help [06:41] a4able: what version of ubuntu you running? [06:42] a4able: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo [07:25] When I click on Places, my home directory appear, as they should. For some reason, one of my folders OUTSIDE of the default "Music" "Videos" etc is appearing in the dropdown menu. Its not supposed to be there. [07:42] seems like there's no opensource solution for pdf to doc or excel [07:43] PDF to excel? Never seen that. [07:43] But yeah, PDF to Doc opensource is depressing. =/ [07:44] morning [07:44] I just used a website to do it [07:44] :D [07:50] and that looks like a puke :D [07:50] not my problem, I think :D [08:11] Meh, open the pdf, Ctrl+A Ctrl+C, open OpenOffice Writer, Ctrl+V and save ;P [08:36] geirha, doesnt work with evince [08:36] as this is a scanned pdf [08:55] Ah, so you need OCR software [09:21] Dutch70: imagine seeing you in here :) [09:32] heya forest...lol. How are ya? [09:33] I mean "hobgoblin" [09:35] Dutch70: pretty good ty - you? [09:38] >hobgoblin: I'm good thanks. I've just started coming here recently. I really like it. [09:39] how do you reply directly to me? [09:40] I just typed your name in there. obviously :)) [09:40] tab complete - type ho [09:41] hobgoblin: Nice!!! [09:42] :) [10:18] I'm trying to install Qemu via sudo aptitude install qemu qemulator. and I'm getting....." sudo: aptitude: command not found" Is that right? [10:19] Hello. [10:19] heya Silver_Fox_ :) [10:19] hello Silver_Fox_ [10:19] Hi swoody , it has been too long! [10:19] How are you swoody ? [10:19] Silver_Fox_: no kidding! :D [10:19] Hello akshatj [10:20] doing very well, ty [10:20] Good good [10:20] Silver_Fox_: just landed another raise and a promotion at work, and I start school tomorrow [10:20] how's things going with you? :) [10:20] Dutch70: It should just work, just tried it myself.. [10:20] swoody, Sounds good, very good infact :) [10:21] @ the rest: maybe better to this in -team? [10:21] Dutch70: install aptitude first or use apt-get [10:21] Silver_Fox_: \o/ I'm happy for you [10:21] ChrisDruif: lol [10:21] hobgoblin: Isn't aptitude not installed by default? [10:21] Dutch70: aptitude was removed from the default install [10:21] ChrisDruif: no longer [10:22] Correct @ hobgoblin [10:22] Ow....on my box it's installed....but I can't remember if I manually installed it...I didn't think I did... [10:22] clean install? [10:22] hobgoblin: Mine? [10:23] yea [10:23] No, my installs don't stay clean for long :) [10:23] sigh - was it a clean install or an upgrade, an upgrade would still have aptitude a clean install would need it installing [10:24] hobgoblin: when I try to install aptitude, I get "Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) for starters. Is [10:24] Ow...fresh install it was :) [10:24] Dutch70: you might be using something else - synaptic/add remove [10:24] Dutch70: Is some other package manager open atm? [10:24] Dutch70: only one at a time :) [10:25] ChrisDruif: ahh, I think so [10:25] close it :) [10:25] hobgoblin: tag-team yeah :D [10:26] LOL [10:26] :) [10:26] Dutch70: are you all straight with the update manager thing now - from the forums? [10:27] I think so, but I'm still getting "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) when I try to install aptitude [10:33] hobgoblin: as a matter of fact, Igot here from the link in your sig :)) [10:33] Dutch70: Did you close any program which might lock it? Think of Ubuntu Software Center, Synaptic, (Add/Remove Software in older versions of Ubuntu), other terminal installing software? [10:33] Dutch70: excellent - glad it works then :) [10:34] ChrisDruif: There's a good possibility that I did, I've done a lot of install/uninstalls lately. [10:34] I wouldn't know what though [10:35] Dutch70: I mean that they might be running right now :)... [10:36] Did you close any installation before it was done? [10:36] I don't think so, but a reboot would fix that...correct? [10:37] http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6163794&postcount=6 [10:37] Not always... [10:37] Dutch70: or that ^^ link - make sure you really don't have any of them open though - check the sys monitor [10:38] ok...I'll check that, thanks [10:39] be right back [10:40] that'll be a reboot then ;) [10:41] I think he will O:-) [10:41] I'm sure - I know him for a long while :) [10:42] Alright, my first meeting with him :) [10:43] ChrisDruif: I know him from the forums - he followed the link in my forum sig to here [10:43] Yeah, I read :) [10:44] that link seems to work quite often :) [10:45] I'll take a looksy at your link...I'll add it to my own :) [10:45] Made my forum account just yesterday :) (I'm not really a forum kinda guy) [10:45] Welcome back Dutch70 :) [10:46] ChrisDruif: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10370629&postcount=2 [10:46] Dutch70: all ok now I trust [10:46] Seems to be...a reboot took care of it. [10:47] as much as I hate to say that :)) [10:47] nice - you didn't need to reboot - that command would have done it :) [10:48] What I would've said :) [10:48] A reboot rm'd that lock-file [10:48] yep [10:49] I tried that command first [10:49] That didn't work? :-/ [10:49] nope, it didn't do anything. [10:49] that's odd [10:50] straight back to my name. [10:50] that should of done it then, did you try using whatver failed [10:51] oh...hahaa...no [10:51] Dutch70: if you run a command and it goes back to your prompt - it's done what you asked it to do [10:51] lmbo [10:51] :) [10:51] Dutch70: It doesn't confirm it removed anything (no terminal spam ;)) [10:52] live & learn I guess, or...linux & learn :) [10:52] It only tells when something didn't remove :) [10:52] that's good info & I should have known that [10:53] well you do now - such is learning :) [10:53] Dutch70: I presume your used to GUI's :) You visually see that it's removed... [10:56] yes, I started on Ubuntu a couple years ago, but got away from it until recently. Forgot everything [10:58] Well, there are multiple ways to check if it's really gone :) [11:00] hows that? [11:03] Is the folder that contained the file "ls /var/lib/dpkg" [11:03] Might be "ls /var/lib/dpkg/" [11:05] I can't remember exactly, but touch /var/lib/dpkg/lock to see if it's there works (afaik, don't know for sure) [11:05] Or navigate to the folder where it was and see visually if it there....or just try to do what was lock... [11:07] But in this case, I would suggest the last one :) [11:07] ok...did the 2nd option...lol. It installed Aptitude & Qemu [11:08] Alright :) [11:08] Thanks a lot guys, I really apprectiate it. [11:09] wonder what I'm gonna break today? or should I say "first today" lol [11:10] Dutch70: If you a bit careful, nothing much? :) [11:10] For some reason I like to take risk, that's why I have my 10.10 CD right under my keyboard...lol. [11:11] xD [11:11] Maybe dual-boot? So you have one working install at all times? [11:12] good plan - I used to do similar [11:12] I have Vista & Ubuntu dual boot, was thinking about triple booting with either Kubuntu or Mint though [11:12] or even a VM to play and break ,then you can use snapshots and just go back [11:13] Kubuntu...meh [11:13] I'm not a KDE fan :) [11:13] yeah...that's why I was checking out Qemu, hoping it's better than virtualbox. I couldn't get it to recognize my 2nd CPU [11:14] You've got 2 CPU in your machine? Awesome :D [11:14] I did an actual install of Kubuntu, but couldn't get enough commands figured out to stick with it. [11:14] yeah, but a crappy graphics card [11:15] Graphics cards are for gamers :P Most of the time anyway :) [11:15] got another pc with triple core processors, and a nice graphics card but it needs a motherboard...lightening :( [11:16] yeah, not much of a gamer, but my Intel kept freezing [11:16] til I found a workaround [11:17] Ow, you've got a dual-core? Not two separate CPU's? [11:18] I guess, but it shows up as 2 on the host OS, and only 1 in VB [11:18] In the settings of VB you can select how many cores you can use...did you know that? [11:19] And yes, Ubuntu might show it as 2 CPU's....but that is because you CPU can handle 2 physical jobs at once :) [11:20] oh...so that's how it works. [11:21] I think I read somewhere that you had to do something with your kernel to get it to show the 2nd cpu [11:21] or maybe it was your bios & mine didn't have that option, can't really remember [11:24] and actually I installed Qemulator, can't find Qemu [11:31] Qemu is prolly term app...don't know, just guessing...the background service for it :) [11:35] yeah, I think they [11:35] changed it...kvm or something [11:39] Dutch70: have you seen the wiki page for it? [11:40] actually ignore that ... [11:42] hobgoblin: I think I've got it [11:42] have to check later though...gotta go for now. ttyl [11:45] ttyl [13:42] Hai all again :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:41] usb adsl modem connection problem. currently using ubuntu 10.10 as second OS in my computer. suggestions are invited :) [14:46] usb adsl modem connection problem. currently using ubuntu 10.10 as second OS in my computer. suggestions are invited :) [14:48] upsla: We heard you the first time. Also, we need more details, such as: what make/model modem, what methods you have tried, and what symptoms of the problem you are experiencing. [14:52] my modem model is:beetel 100 cx .the modem light is on when plugged into computer.it is listed in lsusb command.i tried the cxacru patch and sudo pppoeconf etc.dmesg shows that adsl is up training done and shows up and down speed.but yet i am not connected to internet . [14:53] upsla: Does network-manager-gnome have a connection? ie. is the connection recognized [14:53] aveilleux:no [14:53] hm [14:54] Does ''ping 74.125.79.99'' give any replies? [14:55] and the for your information the modem does not have any ethernet ports only usb. the modem works fine in windows thats why i able to chat now. [14:56] geirha:i tried different sets of ip's and each i get unkown host . [14:58] upsla: That suggests you used a hostname, not IP. I was thinking maybe dns wasn't set up properly. [14:59] upsla: did you set it up in network manager? [14:59] That ip is one of the ips for google.com [15:00] geirha:i tried i get the message .ah i forgot the message .i think message shows no active connection [15:01] upsla: Ah ok. Hm. [15:02] trinikrono:hi at first place my modem is not detected on network manager then how can i setup anything. [15:03] and you say lspci lists the device upsla? [15:03] i mean lsusb [15:04] trinikrono:no lsusb lists it. [15:05] and not lspci. lspci is used for looking pci type modem right ?.because my modem is of usb type. [15:07] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1663131 [15:07] this is you right [15:07] yes [15:08] where are you stuck at [15:09] sudo pppoeconf should be able to set it up [15:09] * jasono is away: The Cape [15:09] !away | jasono [15:09] jasono: You should avoid noisy away messages and -nicks in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away " to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines» [15:10] trinikrono:sudo pppoeconf did not work for me . i even raised that problem on my post itself . check it out. [15:12] Hm. I gave him that yesterday too. [15:17] trinikrono:sudo pppoeconf did not work for me . i even raised that problem on my post itself . check it out. [15:17] well [15:17] upsla: where are you stuck [15:17] with that command [15:18] see pppoconf scans for eth0 and nas0.and the setup progress gets struck at 100% while scanning nas0 interface. [15:23] see pppoconf scans for eth0 and nas0.and the setup progress gets struck at 100% while scanning nas0 interface. [15:23] trinikrono:see pppoconf scans for eth0 and nas0.and the setup progress gets struck at 100% while scanning nas0 interface. === techmik is now known as techmik67 [15:31] trinikrono:see pppoconf scans for eth0 and nas0.and the setup progress gets struck at 100% while scanning nas0 interface. [15:31] can you trry it again upsla [15:31] like reset it and try to run pppoconf again [15:32] but you need to make sure about the wan settings [15:32] like ip addresses etc [15:32] trinikrono:i already tried it for more than 10 times. [15:32] upsla: can you try it on a other ubuntu pc [15:32] like one that has lucid [15:33] and see if it works [15:33] trinikrono:sorry i have no other system that runs ubuntu. [15:33] try a live cd then [15:34] just to see if it passes the pppoconf [15:34] trinikrono:i even tried using live cd also pal.. [15:35] trinikrono:i even tried using live cd also pal.. [15:36] oh i know [15:36] try natty [15:36] :D [15:37] trinikrono:i stavle ubuntu 10.10 installed on my computer. u want to install natty which is still beta ? [15:39] trinikrono:i stavle ubuntu 10.10 installed on my computer. u want to install natty which is still beta ? [15:39] no try the live cd [15:39] just to see if it works [15:40] sometimes the hardware does work with specific kernels [15:40] so the best thing to do is to try the newest kernel [15:40] natty live cd is available ?.i heard it is still in beta. [15:40] yes it is alpha actually [15:40] Hi, my log files (kernel, system & messages) are growing at a phenomenal rate 400-500 kb a second. Here's a 1 second log at pastebin.com: http://pastebin.com/cyvbczyq [15:40] i burnt one yesterday [15:40] and it does boot [15:41] What are some alternative IM clients to: Pidgin, Empathy, aMSN, Emesnene, or Ayttm? All I can find is Galaxium, which has no packages for Ubuntu. [15:41] u want me to download it ? [15:41] we are only trying it too see if pppoconf works upsla [15:41] I'm using Kubuntu 10.10 with the latest kubuntu packages from launchpad [15:42] u want me to download it ? [15:43] upsla: yes and see try the live cd [15:43] A_B_: that looks scary [15:44] ok thanks pal [15:45] trinikrono, yes it is and I'm afraid I don't understand the log messages so I appreciate any help figuring this out [15:47] A_B_: did you try in #ubuntu [15:47] trinikrono.. no I though I'd try here first [16:07] Hi everyone! [16:11] Quick poll: XDM or SLiM for a Flux/Open/Blackbox based install? (not all at the same time.) SLiM is prettier and easier to configure, but XDM is extremely minimal and takes almost nothing in terms of resource [16:35] aveilleux: I;ev had nothing but bad times with SLiM [16:35] aveilleux: also, fluxbox ftw [16:37] paultag: It's worked just fine the few test cases I have right now; for the moment I'm defaulting to XDM though. [16:37] paultag: I'm updating my MDU script, so I need to dig down and do some research like I haven't done since I added KDE support [17:31] If I'm using a desktop and not a laptop, is it necessary for "Power Manager" to boot up with my startup applications? [17:32] yes [17:32] why? [17:32] it's okay to not keep your processors running with full steam [17:33] my cpu can run both cores at 2.7GHz, but they are most of the time chilling at 800MHz [17:33] uses consumpts less electricity [17:34] what is a recommended setting to have selected? [17:34] "go to sleep after 1 hour"? [17:34] ahhh you mean things like that [17:34] my desktop computer never sleeps [17:48] hey. [17:48] Hey Red-Raven [17:48] hay JackyAlcine. [17:49] still working on that insane pin drive. [17:49] How is it from last time? [17:50] same. treid DD again. some guy told me to do it without it mounted, but when i plug it in it doesn't mount in the first place. maybe WITH it mounted? [17:51] NO! Red-Raven, I've read somewhere on Wikipedia not to do that! [17:51] OK I PROMISE I WON'T! why? [17:52] It's like formatting a drive while it's mounted, or removing one in use. Same way it's "dangerous" to run fsck while it's mounted. [17:52] really dangerous [17:53] to the system or the drive? because i WANT the drive to be wiped. [17:53] Red-Raven: where are you runing fsck frfom [17:53] you can use this thing to do it [17:53] palimpsest [17:54] trinikrono: She wasn't, but I was comparing that to running sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda [17:54] it's practically rm -rf / to a whole new level. [17:54] um, im a dude... [17:54] :D [17:55] my bad. >_< [17:55] lol its fine. [17:56] im not following this. so what are you saying i should do? [17:56] Well, okay. Your drive doesn't show up in Windows, right? [17:56] it does. in ubuntu and linux. [17:57] But can you access it? Like pump data to it? [17:57] sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda? To list the drives? [17:57] weird thing is, i think a virus locked it, but only files that should be there, like music etc, are there. no suspicious files. [17:57] i will hold on. [17:59] Red-Raven: if its a virus it would hide in the recycle bin [17:59] so you wont be able to read [17:59] what is the problem? [17:59] in trash in ubuntu? [18:00] Red-Raven: no you wont see it there [18:00] can you see the hidden files [18:01] ctrl +h [18:01] trinikrono: In the lost+found folder? [18:01] ran fdisk, wasn't there. maybe /dev/sdb? [18:02] use palimpsest [18:02] it would show where it mounted and everything [18:02] ^^ [18:02] i don't have permission to veiw lost+found. that normal? [18:03] Red-Raven: yes. [18:03] ok. so should i leave that alone or find a way inside? [18:04] Red-Raven: what are you trying to do? [18:04] i am a little confused here [18:04] erase this drive. its write protected. [18:04] a virus may have done it. [18:05] is it write protected in ubuntu ? [18:06] no. an old XP machine. [18:10] did you try to see if the drive is write protected on your ubuntu pc Red-Raven [18:10] where ever i plug it in, its write-protected. [18:12] im in ubuntu right now. [18:17] so why not just give permission to myself to enter the lost+found folder if that where the virus is hiding? [18:22] well if it was a virus [18:22] it wont be able to make it read only in ubuntu also [18:23] well it is read only. [18:23] did you try to chmod already Red-Raven [18:23] nope. what is it? [18:24] ifyou access the drive as root [18:24] can you edit it [18:24] like gksudo nautilus [18:24] and see if it is writable then === steemed is now known as st33med [18:27] ok. so sudo chmod /dev/sbd? [18:27] what format is it? ext3/4? [18:27] fat32 i think. [18:27] Fat32 does not have permissions [18:28] let me double check that. [18:28] it might be mounted in read-only mode then [18:28] btw i got the fdisk for it. you want the output? [18:29] sure [18:29] red-raven@redraven-Presario-CQ62-Notebook-PC:/$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb [18:29] Disk /dev/sdb: 8021 MB, 8021606400 bytes [18:29] 16 heads, 32 sectors/track, 30600 cylinders [18:29] Units = cylinders of 512 * 512 = 262144 bytes [18:29] Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes [18:29] I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes [18:29] Disk identifier: 0x00000000 [18:29] Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [18:29] /dev/sdb1 16 30600 [18:29] yah its FAT32 [18:29] is sdb a USB device? [18:30] yes. [18:30] have you tried to remount it? [18:30] nope. [18:30] give that a try [18:30]