| smspillaz | RAOF: pomke | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| smspillaz | *poke | 00:01 |
| RAOF | Ow. | 00:02 |
| RAOF | smspillaz: You rang, m'lud? | 00:02 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: hi | 00:02 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: oh that sounds so much more realistic now that I know what you actually sound like XD | 00:03 |
| RAOF | :P | 00:03 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: anyways, I meant to ask - are damage events generally handled in the driver ? | 00:03 |
| smspillaz | eg, if you should get a damage event for something and then don't, is that the drivers fault, if you registered for damage at the right time ? | 00:03 |
| RAOF | It could be the driver, it could be EXA. | 00:04 |
| RAOF | Or the way that the driver interacts with EXA :) | 00:04 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: what if it's nvidia ? | 00:07 |
| RAOF | Then it's probably the driver. | 00:08 |
| RAOF | I don't *think* there's anything driver-independent that could make that not work. I could wander through the source if you wanted me to be more sure ☺ | 00:08 |
| smspillaz | well I'm basically just doing that myself now | 00:09 |
| smspillaz | it's just the thing is that this bug only happens with compiz 0.9 and not 0.8 | 00:10 |
| RAOF | nvidia has had problems with damage in the past, IIRC. | 00:10 |
| smspillaz | (the one where menus don't appear at first but if you hover over them they work) | 00:10 |
| smspillaz | ISTR a patch in compiz for ubuntu which messed with damage though | 00:11 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: this one http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~compiz/compiz/ubuntu/revision/483#debian/patches/049-damage-report-non-empty.patch | 00:13 |
| RAOF | Oh, incidentally: I hate you, and your <super>-keypress stealing Unity plugin ☺ | 00:22 |
| RAOF | Back to <ctrl>+<alt>+<space> for Do, then :( | 00:22 |
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| Amaranth | smspillaz: that was a patch from maniac that went upstream, iirc | 01:16 |
| Amaranth | or a different solution went upstream | 01:16 |
| smspillaz | Amaranth: well it was added to the workaroudns plugin | 01:26 |
| smspillaz | force X to GLX sync | 01:26 |
| smspillaz | although the particular damage issue they were targeting was different | 01:26 |
| Amaranth | smspillaz: wait, I think we're talking about different things | 01:26 |
| smspillaz | oh ? | 01:26 |
| Amaranth | the force X to GLX sync was when I put a call to glXWaitX in core | 01:26 |
| smspillaz | ah right | 01:26 |
| smspillaz | yeah, I'm talking about this one | 01:26 |
| Amaranth | onestone implemented that in the workarounds plugin instead | 01:27 |
| smspillaz | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~compiz/compiz/ubuntu/revision/483#debian/patches/049-damage-report-non-empty.patch | 01:27 |
| Amaranth | Right, that has nothing to do with the glXWaitX stuff, afaik | 01:27 |
| smspillaz | right | 01:27 |
| smspillaz | so what *was* that about then ? | 01:28 |
| smspillaz | the one I'm referencing didn't go upstream AFAICT | 01:29 |
| Amaranth | I dunno, someone dumped our changelog when merging with debian and the debian changelog doesn't say | 01:30 |
| Amaranth | Let me dig through old changelogs | 01:30 |
| Amaranth | smspillaz: oh, it was for damage issues with nvidia | 01:32 |
| smspillaz | I know that | 01:32 |
| Amaranth | I wonder why we stopped using it, I don't think the glXWaitX stuff was the same thing actually | 01:32 |
| smspillaz | but what were the issues people were getting ? | 01:32 |
| smspillaz | and more importantly, why do I only ever get this issue on compiz 0.9 and not 0.8 | 01:33 |
| Amaranth | bug 269904 | 01:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 269904 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main (Debian) (and 9 other projects) "Screen refresh problems with nvidia on intrepid (affects: 64) (dups: 20) (heat: 182)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269904 | 01:33 |
| smspillaz | Amaranth: I'll try applying this patch then once I confirm it is an nvidia related issue | 01:34 |
| Amaranth | smspillaz: now I'm all kinds of confused | 01:35 |
| Amaranth | I don't even remember this patch but apparently you were right | 01:35 |
| Amaranth | smspillaz: Well, do you see the bug with that workaround enabled? :) | 01:37 |
| smspillaz | I can't check right now | 01:37 |
| * smspillaz is recompiling his system | 01:37 | |
| Amaranth | recompiling? gentoo? | 01:37 |
| smspillaz | arch | 01:37 |
| Amaranth | smspillaz: blasphemy | 01:38 |
| smspillaz | Amaranth: hrm I see it on intel | 01:38 |
| smspillaz | I would swear in here right now if I could | 01:38 |
| Amaranth | smspillaz: does the workaround fix it there? :) | 01:38 |
| smspillaz | Amaranth: erm, let me check | 01:39 |
| smspillaz | I don't have workarounds and friends enabled | 01:40 |
| smspillaz | available rather | 01:40 |
| smspillaz | maybe I might be able to get a hold of krh | 01:40 |
| smspillaz | in other news I wish there was a way to automate what yaourt does | 01:41 |
| Amaranth | smspillaz: I updated the plugins-extra package, if that's what you mean | 01:41 |
| smspillaz | having to consistently hit "y" "y" "y" all the time drives me nutes | 01:41 |
| smspillaz | *nuts | 01:41 |
| smspillaz | Amaranth: I had to compile from source | 01:41 |
| Amaranth | smspillaz: hmm, it seems I added my glXWaitX call in core after the workaround | 01:43 |
| Amaranth | Either that or in the bug report I'm referring to the patch you linked to | 01:43 |
| * Amaranth can't remember that far back | 01:43 | |
| Amaranth | smspillaz: tbh the only drawing issue I see that isn't an app bug is xchat-gnome drawing on top of itself | 01:52 |
| Amaranth | although I think that happens with metacity too so that's just a generic driver bug, I guess | 01:52 |
| smspillaz | yeah | 01:58 |
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| TheMuso | /c/c | 02:18 |
| smspillaz | Amaranth: I just saw the bug on nouveau too | 02:33 |
| smspillaz | hmm, while I have nouveau up and running I should try and get unity working | 02:34 |
| RAOF | smspillaz: What part isn't working currently? | 02:35 |
| RAOF | aka: My netbook with nouveau circa mesa 7.9 happily runs Unity on nouveau. | 02:35 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: trigger a menu -> it doesn't appear in some cases -> hover over where the menu should be (eg do something to damage it) -> it does appear | 02:42 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: the problem is that when the window is mapped, we're supposed to get a magical "I'm damaged, ok feel free to draw me now" event, but in some cases we don't | 02:43 |
| smspillaz | and it's happening with nvidia, intel, nouveau | 02:43 |
| RAOF | I don't believe that I've seen that behaviour, but that spread of drivers suggests it's not actually a driver problem :) | 02:44 |
| smspillaz | I know | 02:44 |
| smspillaz | I'm just wondering how on earth I could be using the xcomposite extension *wrong* here | 02:44 |
| smspillaz | it's not a race condition either - I'm registering for damage events on the client right after the CreateNotify | 02:45 |
| * smspillaz wonders if there's some magic he has to do | 02:46 | |
| * RAOF doesn't know of any magic required. | 03:02 | |
| smspillaz | that's what suprises me | 03:09 |
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| smspillaz | Amaranth: btw, even with force-x-to-glx sync I still get the bug :/ | 03:19 |
| Amaranth | smspillaz: weird | 03:19 |
| Amaranth | smspillaz: perhaps it requires human sacrifice | 03:19 |
| * smspillaz sacrifices DBO | 03:20 | |
| smspillaz | deciding to do this on arch linux didn't make my life any easier | 03:20 |
| smspillaz | they upgraded python to 3.0 and it broke ccsm | 03:20 |
| RAOF | That was really silly. python 3.0 isn't python :) | 03:23 |
| smspillaz | silly AND annoying | 03:27 |
| Isaac-M | Hello | 03:30 |
| Isaac-M | I have a unique problem, I tried #ubuntu-boot, but no one was there. | 03:31 |
| Isaac-M | Is anyone available to help? | 03:31 |
| Isaac-M | Well, my CMOS/BIOS thinks I have a floppy drive. I disagree. | 03:31 |
| Isaac-M | So, this of course spawns an infinite error when launching Ubuntu | 03:32 |
| Isaac-M | I need to know the correct argument to pass to the kernel when starting Ubuntu, so it bypasses the floppy drive. | 03:32 |
| Isaac-M | I tried nofloppy, but it didn't work | 03:32 |
| Isaac-M | Also tried: floppy=0, floppy=0,16,cmos | 03:33 |
| Isaac-M | Does anyone know the correct arg? | 03:33 |
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| desrt | does anybody know where the gnome-shell package has gone in natty? | 04:26 |
| micahg | desrt: bug 690045 | 04:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 690045 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Please remove and blacklist gnome-shell (affects: 2) (heat: 128)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/690045 | 04:26 |
| desrt | cheers | 04:27 |
| micahg | desrt: I hope to have it in the gnome3 PPA by the end of next month | 04:27 |
| desrt | and hopefully in natty by the release? | 04:27 |
| micahg | desrt: probably not, since it'll most likely needs parts of the gnome3 stack not in natty, but will be in natty + 1 | 04:28 |
| * desrt doesn't look very impressed | 04:29 | |
| desrt | i guess when jono said that there would be a first-class gnome-shell experience in natty he meant "if you run fedora in a virtualbox"? | 04:31 |
| * micahg can't speak for jono | 04:32 | |
| micahg | desrt: gnome3 probably isn't landing, but if the pieces are there, I'll try to get it back in | 04:32 |
| desrt | so what's missing? | 04:32 |
| micahg | desrt: idk yet, I won't have time until next month to investigate | 04:33 |
| micahg | desrt: but we certainly won't have gnome3 landed without gnome-shell | 04:34 |
| * micahg shouldn't say certainly (since he has no authority), most probably | 04:34 | |
| micahg | desrt: all I can say is I'll do what I can once the pieces are in the archive | 04:38 |
| desrt | you're going to lose quite a lot of users if it's not working, i think | 04:39 |
| micahg | desrt: I'm not on the desktop team, just a community member | 04:39 |
| RAOF | From what I gathered, it's roughly a manpower problem. | 04:42 |
| desrt | RAOF: it always is.... | 04:44 |
| RAOF | Well, some of the dependencies are also a bit annoying; I know gjs and the “this internal xul library is totally appropriate to link against” has been somewhat troublesome. | 04:46 |
| desrt | ya | 04:46 |
| desrt | i remember a cycle or two ago you guys put in a request for gnome-shell to switch to seed | 04:47 |
| desrt | and the response was "not really, opposed but we don't see the point" | 04:47 |
| micahg | desrt: we can't do stable updates for xulrunner, but hope to for webkit | 04:47 |
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| smspillaz | RAOF: ping | 07:54 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: so two things | 07:58 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: the first is that I've compiled the whole stack from git and it seems that the sync fences seem to fix my damage issue | 07:59 |
| RAOF | Do either of them involve porpoises? | 07:59 |
| smspillaz | so question: can we backport those ? | 07:59 |
| smspillaz | 2) | 07:59 |
| smspillaz | we're doing something weird in compiz where we register for damage events on both the window id drawable and the tfp pixmap | 07:59 |
| smspillaz | which seems, erm, wrong | 08:00 |
| smspillaz | since we only did it on the id in 0.8 | 08:00 |
| RAOF | Aaah, yeah. And prior to the sync extension work there's no way to synchronise X<->GLX easily. | 08:00 |
| smspillaz | yeah | 08:00 |
| smspillaz | even our glXWaitX workaround doesn't quite work | 08:00 |
| smspillaz | although this was an issue where I don't seem to get a damage event on window maps, and I don't know if that's related or now | 08:01 |
| RAOF | You also need XwaitGL or whatever it's called, I think. | 08:01 |
| smspillaz | *not | 08:01 |
| RAOF | Well, they're in 1.10; xorg-edgers has that full stack built and I expect to be ready to upload 1.10 to natty proper by the end of the week. | 08:01 |
| smspillaz | hrm ok | 08:01 |
| smspillaz | I'm going to see if this "smart idea of ours" to register for damage events on both the named pixmap and the id was not so smart after all | 08:02 |
| RAOF | :) | 08:02 |
| RAOF | Also, stop eating <super> :) | 08:03 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: not my fault :)\ | 08:05 |
| smspillaz | someone wanted the launcher to be shown on super, so we have to xgrabkey for super | 08:05 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: do you know what the commit was that introduced sync fences so that I can test without them to see if I still get my bug ? | 08:06 |
| RAOF | I can grab the commit ID for you. | 08:07 |
| smspillaz | cheers | 08:08 |
| smspillaz | I just wouldn't know what the grep for :p\ | 08:08 |
| RAOF | I don't think that the sync fences are actually hooked up to anything, though. | 08:09 |
| RAOF | They're something that you need to use explicitly, IIUC. | 08:09 |
| smspillaz | hrm | 08:12 |
| smspillaz | I wonder why I'm not hitting this bug in xorg master | 08:12 |
| RAOF | So, the candidate commits are: 02e18c9fb5, 9c0c7cc9a7ad, 397dfd9f87, and a couple of others leading up to 397dfd9f87 | 08:12 |
| smspillaz | ok | 08:12 |
| RAOF | I think there have been some changes to Damage and EXA, but that shouldn't affect nvidia. | 08:13 |
| smspillaz | although I'm pretty sure this behaviour where we register for damage events on the same drawable is really a recipe for disaster | 08:13 |
| smspillaz | might want to check that one with krh | 08:13 |
| RAOF | That might be a good idea. | 08:14 |
| smspillaz | it would be really handy if onestone was actually around during the time we merged his code :/ | 08:15 |
| smspillaz | then we could ask him, you know, like, why he did things the way he did .... | 08:15 |
| RAOF | :) | 08:15 |
| desrt | dbarth: good morning | 08:25 |
| dbarth | desrt: hi Ryan | 08:29 |
| desrt | do you know if seb is around this week? | 08:29 |
| desrt | or on holidays? | 08:29 |
| dbarth | desrt: he is | 08:29 |
| dbarth | desrt: he was there yesterday afternoon | 08:29 |
| pitti | Good morning | 08:29 |
| desrt | nice | 08:29 |
| dbarth | he should connect soon | 08:29 |
| desrt | hi pitti | 08:29 |
| pitti | desrt: heeey | 08:29 |
| dbarth | hi pitti | 08:29 |
| pitti | bonjour dbarth | 08:30 |
| RAOF | Good morning pitti | 08:30 |
| desrt | dbarth: just about have a working set of packages... | 08:30 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: aaah ok, now I know why he does it | 08:34 |
| smspillaz | his solution was to nuke loose binding and only rebind textures when the underlying pixmap was damaged | 08:34 |
| RAOF | Ah, so it's a nvidia performance hack? | 08:35 |
| smspillaz | well basically it was the solution to have a "half way between" strict and loose binding | 08:36 |
| smspillaz | because loose binding was the nvidia perf hack | 08:36 |
| smspillaz | although I wish he'd stop calling it "dynamic binding" and call it "damage binding" like it actually is :/ | 08:37 |
| * desrt gives up, goes to bed | 08:40 | |
| smspillaz | RAOF: or rather, it looks like he added it for multitexture support | 08:41 |
| * smspillaz hates it that debugging compiz usually ends up in "guess what the other developer was trying to do" | 08:41 | |
| RAOF | Yeah, that game sucks. | 08:42 |
| smspillaz | especially when the other developer is some wizard like davidr or onestone but also suffers from "I don't document my code"-diasease | 08:43 |
| pitti | bonjour dbarth | 08:51 |
| pitti | oops, focus error | 08:51 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: btw, props to whoever figured out how to make plymouth look like not-garbage on nvidia | 09:02 |
| pitti | smspillaz: it wasn't driver specific | 09:05 |
| smspillaz | pitti: oh ? | 09:05 |
| pitti | smspillaz: it was a weird compiler bug, see bug 685352 | 09:05 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 685352 in plymouth (Ubuntu Natty) (and 6 other projects) "libplymouth2_0.8.2-2ubuntu6 and later give ragged splash and text rendering (affects: 34) (dups: 3) (heat: 174)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685352 | 09:05 |
| pitti | was a loong night to track that down :) | 09:05 |
| smspillaz | pitti: ahhhh compiler bugs :) | 09:05 |
| smspillaz | pitti: we had one where compiz would crash a few seconds after loading any plugin on gcc 4.5. Also took a loooooong night with onestone to track that one down | 09:06 |
| smspillaz | pitti: I see the one where VT text was offset to the lower right hand corner of the screen was fixed too. congrats :) | 09:06 |
| smspillaz | pitti: ah strange you got a bug with gcc 4.5 as well | 09:09 |
| smspillaz | gcc 4.5 is *really* buggy I've noticed | 09:09 |
| bentech4you | how to enable wifi on hp | 09:13 |
| bentech4you | laptop | 09:13 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 09:29 |
| didrocks | good morning rodrigo_ | 09:29 |
| rodrigo_ | hi didrocks | 09:32 |
| kamstrup | pitti: wow, impressive work on that bug. Nice job! :-) | 09:37 |
| pitti | thanks | 09:37 |
| pitti | hey didrocks | 09:37 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti, how is the hackfest? | 09:37 |
| pitti | didrocks: going well indeed! making nice progress | 09:38 |
| didrocks | nice :) | 09:38 |
| seb128 | hey | 10:05 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 10:05 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 10:08 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 10:08 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 10:08 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, ca va ? | 10:08 |
| didrocks | seb128: ça va bien, et toi ? | 10:08 |
| seb128 | ca va ;-) | 10:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh, daily iso built | 10:49 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm great, thanks! beautifying gvariant handling in gi nw | 10:49 |
| pitti | seb128: yeah, at last! and it's small (I added a new langpack) | 10:49 |
| seb128 | nice! | 10:49 |
| seb128 | pitti, new langpack, great! | 10:49 |
| seb128 | which one? just curious | 10:49 |
| seb128 | we have french back on amd64 right? | 10:49 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 10:49 |
| pitti | seb128: almost | 10:58 |
| pitti | seb128: tomorrow morning we shold have fresh langpacks (I need to build them manually) | 10:59 |
| pitti | then they should fit | 10:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok great ;-) | 11:02 |
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| * didrocks wants a working Internet connexion :/ | 11:08 | |
| seb128 | didrocks, still no box? | 11:09 |
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| smspillaz | RAOF: ok, did some more investigating - there's some X bug that's causing us to not get damage events on MapNotify even with compiz 0.8 and it's fix in xserver git | 11:31 |
| smspillaz | do you think you could find commits that might have fixed them and backport them? | 11:31 |
| didrocks | at last \o/ | 11:45 |
| smspillaz | didrocks: \o/ | 11:51 |
| nessita | hello everyone! | 11:56 |
| didrocks | hey nessita, how are you? | 11:57 |
| nessita | didrocks: pretty good! you? | 11:57 |
| didrocks | nessita: I'm fine, thanks :) | 11:57 |
| pitti | hey nessita, how are you? | 11:59 |
| nessita | hey pitti! | 11:59 |
| nessita | how was that return to the home? | 11:59 |
| pitti | nessita: went pretty well this time, no delays and I felt almost no jetlag | 12:01 |
| pitti | nessita: how about you? | 12:01 |
| nessita | the trip was more tiring that I thought... but once I was at home, it was great :-) | 12:02 |
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| seb128 | hey nessita | 12:09 |
| nessita | hey seb128! how are you? | 12:10 |
| seb128 | I'm great thanks! | 12:10 |
| seb128 | I managed to sleep 6 hours in the 9 hours flight | 12:10 |
| seb128 | then stayed up until midnigt, slept until 11:30 on monday | 12:10 |
| seb128 | which get me out of jetlag in one day ;-) | 12:10 |
| seb128 | what about you? | 12:10 |
| nessita | well, I slept pretty much nothing on my way back, I slept most of the sunday in my home. That made me recover pretty well :-) | 12:13 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:16 |
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| dpm | hey didrocks, I hope you had a good flight back! Quick question: from which package did the "Classic Desktop" string that appears on gdm come from? You told me a couple of weeks ago, but I can't remember which one | 12:39 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, pitti: can you please have a look at merging/uploading this: https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/libcanberra/no-gtk-quit-add/+merge/46463 | 12:42 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, pitti: not urgent until the new GTK3 is uploaded (robert is on it) | 12:42 |
| dpm | hi chrisccoulson, do you think you could merge Danilo's fixes to po2xpi to the trunk branch, as discussed on the rally? -> https://code.launchpad.net/~danilo/po2xpi/firefox4-support/+merge/46309 Thanks | 12:43 |
| chrisccoulson | dpm - yeah, sure | 12:44 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, will do, did you read robert_ancell's email about gtk? | 12:44 |
| chrisccoulson | sorry, i've not been too well this morning | 12:44 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, about the building failures? | 12:44 |
| seb128 | dpm, hey, the classic session should come from gnome-session | 12:44 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, yes | 12:44 |
| dpm | awesome, thanks chrisccoulson (the merging part, I mean :) - get well soon | 12:44 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes, looking at building his last changes in a minute | 12:44 |
| dpm | seb128, great, thanks | 12:45 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, I didn't get those when I built my branch though | 12:45 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ok, I will try there as well | 12:45 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 12:45 |
| didrocks | dpm: hey, yes the flight back was nice. yes, it's coming from gnome-session | 12:47 |
| didrocks | dpm: btw, A new upload create a new string to translate (the fallback message) | 12:47 |
| didrocks | dpm: the ; are important to keep as it's a delimiter between fallback session message | 12:48 |
| dpm | didrocks, cool, thanks. Yeah, it seems it's there, but I'm not sure you mean by the delimiter. Is it this one we're talking about? -> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/gnome-session/+pots/gnome-session-2.0/ca/31/+translate | 12:49 |
| seb128 | dpm, in the template it's this string | 12:51 |
| seb128 | "";It seems you do not have the hardware requirement to run unity. Installing " | 12:51 |
| seb128 | "new driver can maybe be a help.\\nYou should try the Ubuntu classic session " | 12:51 |
| seb128 | "to directly get the traditional interface." | 12:51 |
| seb128 | " | 12:51 |
| seb128 | dpm, seems launchpad strips the ";" at the start of the line there | 12:52 |
| didrocks | dpm: seb128 I just added the ; with an upload less than an hour ago, so maybe not refreshed yet | 12:53 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 12:53 |
| dpm | seb128, didrocks, yeah, it seems that the template with the new string is not there yet: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/gnome-session/+imports?field.filter_status=all&field.filter_extension=pot | 12:55 |
| dpm | didrocks, has the new string got a translator comment re: the ";"? Because I think it is likely to confuse translators, and I'm afraid they might remove it in the translation | 12:56 |
| didrocks | dpm: I wasn't sure how it worked in the .desktop file so I didn't put one. I can do that in a next upload if we are sure intltool isn't confused by that | 12:57 |
| dpm | didrocks, I don't think intltool supports comments in .desktop files - dobey, any ideas? | 12:58 |
| dpm | the \\n escaping does not seem to work, either on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/gnome-session/+pots/gnome-session-2.0/ca/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=hardware | 13:00 |
| dpm | let me file a bug and see if any translations people comes up with an idea | 13:01 |
| didrocks | ok, thanks dpm :) | 13:02 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, do you know why when g-s-d crashes the gtk theme reset rather than staying on what it was? | 13:18 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, is the xsettings dropped when g-s-d crashes? | 13:18 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, hmm, no, it shouldn't | 13:18 |
| rodrigo_ | but it's true that it happens, I see it when logging out | 13:18 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, 2.32. or 2.91? | 13:19 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: speaking of crashes, would you know why u1client is failing to build with: | 13:20 |
| nessita | dh_girepository -pgir1.0-ubuntuone-1.0 | 13:20 |
| nessita | dh_girepository: Could not find gir file for UbuntuOne-1.0.typelib | 13:20 |
| nessita | make: *** [binary-predeb/gir1.0-ubuntuone-1.0] Error 2 | 13:20 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, you need the gir*ubuntuone package installed | 13:20 |
| seb128 | nessita, is that on natty? | 13:20 |
| seb128 | nessita, the gir version is 1.2 now | 13:20 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, right | 13:20 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: but that is not a local machine, that is u1client nightlies | 13:20 |
| seb128 | nessita, where is your work in progress? do you want me to check? | 13:20 |
| nessita | seb128: I have no idea where this is built... rodrigo_, do you know? | 13:21 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, dobey's machine? | 13:21 |
| seb128 | nessita, where is the source I mean | 13:21 |
| nessita | seb128: log file is: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/62246782/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.libubuntuone_0.3.9%2Br113~maverick1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 13:21 |
| seb128 | or the vcs | 13:21 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, I guess it needs to build depend on gir1.2-ubuntuone-1.0 | 13:22 |
| seb128 | oh, it's a maverick build | 13:22 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ^ | 13:22 |
| rodrigo_ | does it build depend on gir1.0-ubuntuone-1.0 then? | 13:23 |
| * rodrigo_ gets the source | 13:23 | |
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| seb128 | rodrigo_, it can't, the binary is coming from this source | 13:24 |
| nessita | so, is a 'which binary is built first' issue? | 13:24 |
| rodrigo_ | the binary is from libubuntuone, not u1-client | 13:25 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, the build log is a libubuntuone one | 13:25 |
| rodrigo_ | ah | 13:25 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm | 13:26 |
| seb128 | nessita, can I get the source package or the vcs somewhere? | 13:28 |
| seb128 | nessita, it's hard to say without seeing what is in the source | 13:28 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, lp:libubuntuone/ubuntu | 13:28 |
| nessita | seb128: let me dig a deep to try to guess where that package builds from | 13:28 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, so the problem is that the package was renamed to gir1.2.... but debian/rules uses gir1.0 | 13:28 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: but that is maverick, is it correct the package to be gir1.2? | 13:29 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, seems they tried to make the build work with either abi version | 13:29 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, the build-depends are gir1.0 | gir1.2 for example | 13:29 |
| nessita | hum | 13:30 |
| rodrigo_ | the nightlies build from the same package branch afaik | 13:30 |
| nessita | I think we need to ask dobey in this case, he modified that, I think | 13:30 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, where do you see that? in the branch I pasted, it just build-depends on gir1.2* | 13:30 |
| seb128 | the issue is that natty and maverick have different gir versions | 13:30 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/62246782/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.libubuntuone_0.3.9%2Br113~maverick1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 13:30 |
| seb128 | the build log nessita gave | 13:30 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, right | 13:31 |
| nessita | seb128, rodrigo_: I can't find a dedicated branch for this build... | 13:31 |
| seb128 | "gir1.2-glib-2.0 | gir1.0-glib-2.0, gir1.2-json-glib-1.0 | gir1.0-json-glib-1.0" | 13:31 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, we'd better ask dobey, this seems to use a different branch | 13:31 |
| nessita | ok, I will | 13:32 |
| nessita | thanks for looking into this! | 13:32 |
| seb128 | nessita, ok, we need dobey to point us to the source used for those builds | 13:32 |
| seb128 | yw ;-) | 13:32 |
| nessita | right | 13:32 |
| nessita | :-) | 13:32 |
| rodrigo_ | I'll change though the "real" branch to use gir1.2 everywhere | 13:32 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/libubuntuone/packaging-dailies | 13:33 |
| seb128 | nessita, ^ | 13:33 |
| seb128 | that's the one used for the daily build | 13:33 |
| seb128 | r6 has the dual gir thing | 13:33 |
| rodrigo_ | yes | 13:34 |
| nessita | me browses | 13:36 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, I'll build locally the natty version to see if that gir* stuff needs fixing | 13:36 |
| rodrigo_ | so will let it building while I get lunch, bbiab | 13:36 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you also need to rename libwebkit-dev to libwebkitgtk-dev | 13:36 |
| seb128 | in natty | 13:36 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 13:36 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: awesome, thanks! | 13:37 |
| Laney | what was that webkit rename for? | 13:37 |
| seb128 | Laney, upstream changed the library name | 13:37 |
| seb128 | it's to have the binaries matching the soname | 13:37 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, libwebkitgtk-3.0-dev ? | 13:38 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, no? | 13:38 |
| seb128 | libwebkitgtk-dev | 13:38 |
| rodrigo_ | no, sorry, libwebkitgtk-dev | 13:38 |
| seb128 | or do you want to build with gtk3? | 13:38 |
| rodrigo_ | didn't see it | 13:38 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:38 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, lunch now, will do that later | 13:38 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, enjoy | 13:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, debian did the same rename in experimental | 13:39 |
| Laney | seb128: yeah I see now, didn't catch that in the changelog | 13:41 |
| Laney | do they Provide: the old names? | 13:41 |
| seb128 | Laney, no, but since the soname changed that would be misleading | 13:42 |
| Laney | maybe for the dev | 13:42 |
| seb128 | they don't provide it, things would crash on a no found lib | 13:42 |
| Laney | for BDs | 13:42 |
| bcurtiswx | bazaar.launchpad.net must be down.. can't push or ping it | 13:44 |
| bcurtiswx | good morning all | 13:44 |
| soren | bcurtiswx: Works for me. | 13:44 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, works there | 13:44 |
| seb128 | hey btw | 13:44 |
| bcurtiswx | hmm, odd | 13:45 |
| seb128 | Laney, hum, I guess it would work for this one...do we still have lot of things not transitioned? | 13:45 |
| nessita | bcurtiswx: works for me too, I just pushed a branch | 13:45 |
| * bcurtiswx wonders why it doesn't ping | 13:46 | |
| bcurtiswx | we have a small ice storm here, closed everything down | 13:46 |
| bcurtiswx | works now yay | 13:47 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, are you back today? | 13:48 |
| bcurtiswx | its not 9 yet, i keep forgetting i got up at 5am ET :\ | 13:49 |
| seb128 | nessita, rodrigo_: ok, so | 13:49 |
| seb128 | you need to add to debian/libubuntuone-dev.install | 13:49 |
| seb128 | "-debian/tmp/usr/share/gir-1.0/UbuntuOne-1.0.gir" | 13:49 |
| seb128 | ups | 13:50 |
| seb128 | "debian/tmp/usr/share/gir-1.0/UbuntuOne-1.0.gir" | 13:50 |
| seb128 | nessita, to fix your build issue | 13:50 |
| Laney | seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/555392/ | 13:50 |
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| seb128 | nessita, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/libubuntuone/packaging-dailies | 13:50 |
| seb128 | being the vcs that needs the change | 13:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, we need to upload those anyway to pick the new soname so the 1 liner b-d change can be done as well no? | 13:52 |
| Laney | it's still then a delta to maintain | 13:53 |
| seb128 | well debian renamed the lib as well and they are not likely to get new uploads in unstable that we need to sync | 13:54 |
| seb128 | the delta is quite small, especially that anything going in experimental should be updated for the new naming | 13:55 |
| Laney | I would be inclined to keep it until the transition is done in Debian, but that's just my 2 cents | 13:55 |
| seb128 | so it's only a delta for new uploads that will happen in unstable during the debian freeze time | 13:55 |
| Laney | the freeze might not last for much longer ;) | 13:55 |
| seb128 | you mean they might release? | 13:56 |
| seb128 | or just unfreeze? | 13:56 |
| Laney | indeed | 13:56 |
| seb128 | ok, so problem solved, they will land the new webkit in unstable after release | 13:56 |
| nessita | seb128: awesome! I'll add that | 13:56 |
| Laney | yeah I would keep it until then | 13:56 |
| seb128 | nessita, you're welcome | 13:57 |
| seb128 | Laney, ok, will add it in the next upload | 13:57 |
| Laney | then stuff will be able to be transitioned by syncing | 13:57 |
| Laney | :) | 13:57 |
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| * kenvandine waves | 14:26 | |
| cyphermox | hey kenvandine | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | hey cyphermox | 14:26 |
| pitti | hey cyphermox, hi kenvandine | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | hey pitti | 14:26 |
| cyphermox | didrocks1, I still have some issues with compiz and unity not loading in some cases... I even got a warning to say unity wasn't supported, although it work fine? | 14:28 |
| cyphermox | any way I can run whatever gives me that warning so I could file a nice bug report? | 14:28 |
| didrocks1 | cyphermox: ok, I'll try to work on some caching then for alpha3 | 14:29 |
| didrocks1 | cyphermox: well, I think that if you then run in your session /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test ; echo $? you have 0 ? | 14:29 |
| didrocks1 | cyphermox: and in a hot cache, launching it is really quick? (if you time it) | 14:29 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey, how are you? | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | good | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | seb128, good trip back? | 14:30 |
| seb128 | yes, pretty uneventfull | 14:30 |
| * kenvandine was happy to have a holiday yesterday to recover from last week | 14:30 | |
| kenvandine | :) | 14:30 |
| seb128 | got an empty seat next to me and managed to sleep in the plane so it was ok | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | woot | 14:30 |
| cyphermox | didrocks1, seems fine to me, and yes I get 0 | 14:30 |
| didrocks1 | cyphermox: so, it's just verrrrryyyyy slow at first run, I guess… | 14:30 |
| cyphermox | possibly | 14:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I guess this week we will need to sort libdbusmenu breakages | 14:31 |
| cyphermox | that test gets spawned on boot? | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yup | 14:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, is the indicator-message showing running apps for you? | 14:31 |
| didrocks1 | cyphermox: on login, right | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yeah, we know about that one | 14:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, like the triangle | 14:31 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | well... it shows dupes right? | 14:31 |
| didrocks1 | cyphermox: hum, you can maybe time it | 14:31 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, found appmenu issues | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | it is showing the triangle for me | 14:32 |
| seb128 | he filed some bugs and added some patches | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | but it adds a new one for each time i run the app | 14:32 |
| cyphermox | didrocks1, ok. I'll wrap around it to have it log time somewhere :) | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | great | 14:32 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, no, no duplicate there but no triangle either | 14:32 |
| bcurtiswx_ | hi kenvandine | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | hey bcurtiswx_ | 14:32 |
| didrocks1 | cyphermox: excellent! and then, just append the result somewhere so that we can see between boots what's the average time for you | 14:32 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, but that's on the gnome-panel applet not unity, I was having some unity crashes and turned it off | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | seb128, humm... what tedg and i saw on friday was dupes | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | ah | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | interesting | 14:33 |
| cyphermox | didrocks1, yeah, I was going to have it just output to stdout, it would show up in .xsession-errors then I guess | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i'll try it in the gnome panel | 14:33 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ok thanks | 14:33 |
| didrocks1 | cyphermox: right, but it will be removed at each login, if you can append somewhere in ~, so that you can see the time for the last xxx login, that will be nic! | 14:34 |
| didrocks1 | nice* | 14:34 |
| didrocks1 | I have no timeout there, weird as my machine is really slow :) | 14:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, didrocks1, kenvandine: does banshee still need the soundmenu binary or is mpris part of banshee? | 14:34 |
| Laney | both | 14:34 |
| seb128 | both? | 14:35 |
| Laney | the sound menu extension still does some stuff, like the close/quit behaviour | 14:35 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:35 |
| cyphermox | brb, testing this | 14:35 |
| Laney | http://git.gnome.org/browse/banshee/tree/src/Extensions/Banshee.SoundMenu/Banshee.SoundMenu/SoundMenuService.cs | 14:35 |
| * kenvandine logs out to test stuff | 14:35 | |
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| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 14:36 |
| Laney | np | 14:36 |
| seb128 | I was wondering if it was still needed now that the indicator only needs mpris support from the client | 14:36 |
| Laney | that notification stuff could probably be put into a separate extension | 14:37 |
| Laney | aiui it's only there because the notification code is tied into the old notification area extension | 14:37 |
| Laney | (so soundmenu could probably get even smaller) | 14:37 |
| mterry | seb128, vala isn't in the desktop-set (though it is maintained in desktop bzr). It's probably good that it isn't in desktop-set, but just wanted to confirm. | 14:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, it's not an issue, I was just checking if that was a left over from the time registration was needed | 14:39 |
| * pitti attempts a natty langpack build, let's see how the new ffox 4.0 translations hold up | 14:39 | |
| seb128 | mterry, hey | 14:39 |
| Laney | seb128: I do still see Register/Unregister code in there | 14:39 |
| Laney | is that not needed any more? | 14:39 |
| seb128 | mterry, I think it should be in the desktop set | 14:39 |
| dpm | pitti, good luck! :) | 14:40 |
| seb128 | mterry, I don't think it's really used as a low level lib or in other desktop flavors | 14:40 |
| dobey | huh | 14:40 |
| seb128 | Laney, it's not needed anymore in natty no | 14:40 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: why did you put the .gir file in the -dev? | 14:40 |
| seb128 | Laney, ronoc rewrote the registration to only listen for clients on the mpris interface | 14:40 |
| Laney | OK | 14:40 |
| Laney | bl8: ^^^ | 14:40 |
| seb128 | without having to use libindicate | 14:40 |
| seb128 | dobey, because that's where we ship the .gir files | 14:41 |
| seb128 | dobey, the typelib (runtime) is in the gir binary, the .gir is in the libdev | 14:41 |
| seb128 | dobey, since those are required to build not at runtime | 14:41 |
| seb128 | the naming is confusing if that's your issue ;-) | 14:41 |
| mterry | seb128, true... And it is pretty tied to the whole glib stack. OK, will email colin | 14:44 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks | 14:44 |
| dobey | seb128: so the .gir isn't needed by the python bits? | 14:45 |
| pitti | dobey: no | 14:45 |
| pitti | from pygi's POV you only need it for human inspection during development | 14:46 |
| pitti | you also need it for e. g. the vala vapigen creator | 14:46 |
| pitti | (I think that uses the gir, not the typelib) | 14:46 |
| pitti | dobey: i. e. pygi packages need to depend on gir1.2-foo | 14:47 |
| dobey | right | 14:47 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, any known problems with nm-applet not starting at login? | 14:48 |
| pitti | it crashes after resuming, too | 14:48 |
| cyphermox | not that I knew of.. can you file a bug? | 14:48 |
| kenvandine | yup | 14:48 |
| kenvandine | (nm-applet:5799): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_builder_end: assertion `!GVSB(builder)->uniform_item_types || GVSB(builder)->prev_item_type != NULL || g_variant_type_is_definite (GVSB(builder)->type)' failed | 14:49 |
| cyphermox | I know about the crash on resume though | 14:49 |
| bcurtiswx_ | i have my natty w/GNOME# PPA up and fully updated.. anything I can test? | 14:49 |
| kenvandine | is what i get in the xsession-errors | 14:49 |
| cyphermox | ah, so perhaps the same bug | 14:49 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, but if i run nm-applet again it works fine | 14:49 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine, ok | 14:49 |
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| dobey | kenvandine: it crashes nearly every time i do apt-get upgrade | 14:50 |
| dobey | or at least, did last week | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i get the triangle in indicator-messages in the classic gnome session too | 14:50 |
| dobey | i guess one of the postinstall triggers causes some weirdness | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | but everytime i run empathy it adds another entry for it | 14:50 |
| cyphermox | dobey, did you file a bug about it? because I've been hacking on it all week, doing upgrades regularly (and actually using local-made packages), with no issues... did you get crash files for the issues? | 14:51 |
| dobey | cyphermox: no, it just disappears taking the internets with it | 14:52 |
| cyphermox | dobey, yeah, it's required for wifi to stay up | 14:52 |
| cyphermox | dobey, anything in syslog? | 14:53 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ok, same here now | 14:53 |
| Amaranth | hrm, I wonder what's different about unity-window-decorator vs gtk-window-decorator | 14:53 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, was trying with evolution but I forgot I moved the indicator .so away since it crashes evo on start | 14:53 |
| kenvandine | tedg, do you know if there is already a bug filed for that? | 14:53 |
| dobey | cyphermox: not sure, it hasn't happened on my workstation since i got back from dallas, and my laptop is off now, but i can check it later | 14:53 |
| cyphermox | ok. | 14:54 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, tedg: btw libdbusmenu 0.2.92 failed to build | 14:54 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, i think bug 704009 is a dupe of 703039 | 14:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 704009 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "nm-applet dumps core on resume from suspend (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704009 | 14:54 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Evo crashing? I haven't seen one. | 14:54 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, tedg: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/62242100/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.libdbusmenu_0.3.92-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 14:54 |
| dobey | what time does robert_ancell usually show up? | 14:54 |
| kenvandine | tedg, it was last week | 14:54 |
| seb128 | dobey, 10utc | 14:55 |
| seb128 | ups | 14:55 |
| seb128 | 10pm utc rather | 14:55 |
| kenvandine | tedg, before you fixed libindicate | 14:55 |
| seb128 | dobey, do you need him for something? | 14:55 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Ah, okay. | 14:55 |
| kenvandine | wtf, No package 'dbusmenu-glib-0.4' found | 14:55 |
| tedg | seb128, Interesting, any clue why that'd build locally if it is really missing something in the linker? | 14:56 |
| cyphermox | ohhh, nice, kenvandine | 14:56 |
| dobey | seb128: libubuntuone is FTBFS because of webkit | 14:56 |
| kenvandine | tedg, no... i think it is --pkg in the g-ir-scanner | 14:56 |
| kenvandine | so dbusmenu-gtk needs dbusmenu-glib-0.4 | 14:57 |
| kenvandine | and it can't find it with pkgconfig | 14:57 |
| nessita | dobey: ah yes, seb mentioned the package named changed | 14:57 |
| Amaranth | dobey: Did you change it from libwebkit to libwebkitgtk? | 14:57 |
| kenvandine | i'll look at it | 14:57 |
| seb128 | dobey, libwebkit-dev -> libwebkitgtk-dev | 14:57 |
| cyphermox | mterry, are you still looking at bug 703039? | 14:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 703039 in libdbusmenu (Ubuntu) "libdbusmenu-glib crashes nm-applet due to new GVariantBuilder code (affects: 2) (heat: 972)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703039 | 14:57 |
| seb128 | dobey, you dropped the change robert_ancell uploaded in 0ubuntu8 | 14:57 |
| dobey | ugh ok | 14:57 |
| mterry | cyphermox, no. I was hoping tedg would have some ideas on that. He did the port to gdbus for that one. | 14:58 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Okay, thanks! | 14:58 |
| * tedg looks | 14:58 | |
| dobey | guess i have to fix nightlies for that too | 14:58 |
| cyphermox | mterry, ok, thanks | 14:58 |
| kenvandine | ok, i have a fix | 14:58 |
| seb128 | dobey, you need to add the .gir to the libdev in the nightlies | 14:59 |
| mterry | tedg, I looked at it real quick, but I'm not as familiar with gvariants as you are, so wasn't sure quite what the problem was | 14:59 |
| dobey | seb128: and the libwebkitgtk-dev also | 14:59 |
| bcurtiswx | what is the ubuntu button on the top left of unity supposed to be doing? | 15:00 |
| Amaranth | bcurtiswx: eventually showing a fancy app picker | 15:00 |
| Amaranth | bcurtiswx: right now opening /usr/share/applications in nautilus | 15:00 |
| bcurtiswx | Amaranth, OK. right now with GNOME3 PPA it just thinks and fails | 15:01 |
| bcurtiswx | might be nautilus | 15:01 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, is nautilus working? | 15:01 |
| bcurtiswx | not the desktop, but if i click the folder on the left it comes up fine | 15:01 |
| nessita | seb128: thanks, I mentioned the gir stuff to dobey before :-) | 15:01 |
| Amaranth | bcurtiswx: once you have a nautilus window open does the button work? | 15:02 |
| bcurtiswx | Amaranth, negative | 15:02 |
| bcurtiswx | wait | 15:03 |
| rodrigo_ | hey dobey | 15:03 |
| seb128 | nessita, ok | 15:03 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, are you changing the libu1 package then? | 15:03 |
| bcurtiswx | Amaranth, slow, but eventually showed up | 15:03 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, wb, about g-s-d, it's dropping the theme in use when crashing for years, nothing new | 15:03 |
| Amaranth | bcurtiswx: ok, so something is failing to start nautilus when called the way unity calls it | 15:03 |
| bcurtiswx | Amaranth, after the nautilus window was up | 15:03 |
| dobey | seb128: ah, crap. it looks like the -0ubuntu8 didn't get imported to bzr, so i didn't see it :-/ | 15:03 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, we just discussed it last week because g-s-d crashes often nowadays and it's quite noticable | 15:04 |
| Amaranth | bcurtiswx: I think unity uses gio/gvfs to do so | 15:04 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ah, doesn't seem to happen on jhbuild, so maybe we have some patch somewhere? | 15:04 |
| seb128 | dobey, ok | 15:04 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, what version crashes? 2.32 or 2.91? | 15:04 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, weird | 15:04 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, 2.32 | 15:04 |
| rodrigo_ | oh, that's bad | 15:04 |
| dobey | which sucks because now i remember him asking me if it was ok to upload that last monday | 15:04 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, any bug report about those crashes? | 15:04 |
| dobey | doh | 15:04 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/698267 | 15:05 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 698267 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "gnome-settings-daemon assert failure: *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon: free(): invalid pointer: 0x00007f10768671a0 *** (affects: 3) (dups: 2) (heat: 285)" [Medium,New] | 15:05 |
| bcurtiswx | on the plus side, the ubuntu startup/shutdown looks much better | 15:05 |
| seb128 | that's a keyboard one and probably has to do with our indicator | 15:05 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/685785 | 15:05 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 685785 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_free() (affects: 1) (dups: 2) (heat: 94)" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | tedg, https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/dbusmenu/export_packages/+merge/46614 | 15:06 |
| * kenvandine uploads distro patch for now | 15:06 | |
| dobey | rodrigo_: yes, i'm fixing libu1 | 15:06 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, ah, ok, was going to do it myself, so all yours :-D | 15:07 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, there is also a frequent one where user get a BadMatch on session start | 15:08 |
| seb128 | not sure how to debug this one though | 15:08 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, those are usually X11-related, right? | 15:09 |
| seb128 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/552630 | 15:09 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 552630 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "'gnome-settings-daemon' : BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) (affects: 4) (heat: 23)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:09 |
| seb128 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/661712 | 15:09 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 661712 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "gnome-settings-daemon received X Window System error (affects: 3) (heat: 42)" [Undecided,New] | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, tedg: the weird thing about the dbusmenu/nm-applet crash is it is easy for me to reproduce at login time, but works perfectly after login... race i guess | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | would make sense, in the same way, when it crashes on resume | 15:09 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Yeah, I'm guessing it's the builder array thing we found in libindicate. | 15:09 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well issues in how x11 calls are done yes | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | yup | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | tedg, ah.. yeah | 15:10 |
| dobey | seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu/natty/libubuntuone/fix-lost-change/+merge/46616 | 15:10 |
| seb128 | dobey, ok | 15:11 |
| kenvandine | seb128, fix for the dbusmenu FTBFS uploaded | 15:12 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks! | 15:12 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I can confirm the duplicate items now and I get the triangle | 15:13 |
| seb128 | so it was an issue on my box before ;-) | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | seb128, well.. it's still broken :) | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, tedg: the nm-applet bug seems fixed with dbusmenu 0.3.92 | 15:16 |
| seb128 | right, but at least it's broken in a consistent way | 15:16 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, I think I found what's causing the crash in bug #685785 | 15:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 685785 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_free() (affects: 1) (dups: 2) (heat: 94)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685785 | 15:16 |
| seb128 | which means people can work on it ;-) | 15:16 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, oh? | 15:17 |
| * kenvandine tries with suspend too | 15:17 | |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, I think it's because of debian/patches/06_use_application_indicator.patch | 15:17 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, can you fix it? | 15:17 |
| rodrigo_ | yes, sure | 15:17 |
| seb128 | you rock, thanks | 15:17 |
| rodrigo_ | it would explain why 2.91 doesn't get the same crash, since that patch is disabled in the GNOME3 ppa | 15:17 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, first off you need one of those deli ticket/number systems.. Secondly. Could I steal some of your time (when it works best for you) to work on empathy? | 15:18 |
| bcurtiswx | note: that would require GNOME3 PPA working somewhere | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | bah... i guess not | 15:18 |
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| seb128 | rodrigo_, right, I would not be surprised if some of the crashes are due to it | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | ok, well nm-applet started fine across a couple logins with dbusmenu 0.3.92, but still crashes on resume | 15:18 |
| rodrigo_ | yes, looking at the other one | 15:18 |
| desrt | dbarth_: hey | 15:20 |
| desrt | dbarth_: can we do irc today? | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, "working" | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | my gnome3 vm doesn't look very good | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | but it seems to let me login at least | 15:22 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, weird, mine looks great | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | i haven't updated it since before the sprint | 15:23 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, maybe it will help then. IDR when it looked sharp | 15:23 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, do you get that crash in 685785? | 15:26 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, actually.. do you have a pbuilder working with natty+GNOME3 PPA | 15:26 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, i got mine working and I can paste my pbuilderrc file | 15:27 |
| kenvandine | i'm updating the VM now | 15:27 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, no but mdz do, if you have a patch add it to the bug he can probably test | 15:27 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, right, I¡ll do that | 15:27 |
| dbarth_ | desrt: makes sense; i'll ping Kaleo | 15:28 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, will building on the VM be OK ? | 15:28 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, thanks | 15:28 |
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| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, yup | 15:29 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, pitti good afternoon | 15:31 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~bcurtiswx/ubuntu/natty/empathy/empathy-2.91.5 | 15:31 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3 | 15:31 |
| seb128 | hey rickspencer3 | 15:31 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, not sure about the other crash (698267), it might be the same one, but the stacktrace is not very useful | 15:32 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, do you have access to private bugs? | 15:32 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, seb128 is it reasonably safe for me to update today? | 15:32 |
| rickspencer3 | (sorry, didn't mean to interupt) | 15:32 |
| bcurtiswx | hi rickspencer3 | 15:32 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, hmm, it depends which team they belong to | 15:32 |
| rickspencer3 | hiya bcurtiswx | 15:32 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: should; today's CD images built again (after a long time being broken), so the archive should be in a good state | 15:32 |
| rickspencer3 | and unity is working ok? | 15:32 |
| didrocks1 | seb128: I get an orange area in chromium I think it's due to the gtkresize grip, do you know if there is an opened bug about that? | 15:32 |
| didrocks1 | rickspencer3: unity is working, at least for me :) | 15:33 |
| didrocks1 | hey o/ | 15:33 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks1, and for me at last! | 15:33 |
| rickspencer3 | hi didrocks1, great news! | 15:33 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks1, there's an open bug already | 15:33 |
| didrocks1 | chrisccoulson: ok, thanks :) | 15:33 |
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| rodrigo_ | btw, how do you add more workspaces in unity? | 15:34 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: in ccsm | 15:34 |
| rodrigo_ | ah ok | 15:34 |
| didrocks | general -> desktop size -> horizontal size/ vertical size | 15:35 |
| didrocks | (loosely translated :)) | 15:35 |
| seb128 | didrocks, bratsche sent me a patch from chromium | 15:35 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I will forward it to you | 15:35 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, today is fine for updating | 15:35 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ubuntu private bugs? there is quite some crashes on g-s-d in launchpad | 15:36 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks all | 15:36 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, hmm, not sure, can you tell me 1 bug to see if I can see them? | 15:36 |
| didrocks | seb128: oh nice! thanks :) | 15:36 |
| bratsche | seb128: fwiw, I've got patches for gdm, gnome-panel, gnome-do, and Firefox as well. I've been trying to submit merge requests instead of harassing you directly though. :) | 15:36 |
| bratsche | Oh, and gtk-sharp2 | 15:37 |
| seb128 | bratsche, I've the gdm and gnome-panel on my sponsoring queue | 15:37 |
| seb128 | firefox would be for bratsche | 15:37 |
| seb128 | ups | 15:37 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, | 15:37 |
| seb128 | bratsche, thanks ;-) | 15:37 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure what to do about firefox, as it only partially obscures the scrollbutton (so, both are still usable) | 15:38 |
| bratsche | micahg mentioned that my gnome-do one doesn't have proper DEP-3 commit logs or something, so I guess I need to redo it with that when I have time. | 15:38 |
| chrisccoulson | the problem with disabling the resize grippy is that the window is impossible to resize then ;) | 15:38 |
| chrisccoulson | bratsche, your thoughts? | 15:38 |
| bratsche | chrisccoulson: I've got a patch to just disable it. | 15:38 |
| chrisccoulson | bratsche, i was wondering whether to just leave it as it is ;) | 15:39 |
| bratsche | chrisccoulson: I'm having trouble getting it working in a branch, so can I just email the patch to you? | 15:39 |
| chrisccoulson | i think not being able to resize is probably worse than having a resize grippy partially obscuring the scroll button | 15:39 |
| chrisccoulson | and i can use both controls sill here | 15:39 |
| evilvish | bratsche: hi, synaptic is also affected » bug 704414 | 15:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 704414 in synaptic (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "In status bar, Resize grip overlaps synaptic's progress bar (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704414 | 15:40 |
| bratsche | I guess that's your call. If you want to disable the grips, it's a 1-line patch. :) | 15:40 |
| bratsche | evilvish: Thanks | 15:40 |
| chrisccoulson | bratsche, i think i'd prefer to leave it there for now and see if people complain about it ;) | 15:40 |
| bratsche | chrisccoulson: Fair enough :) | 15:40 |
| bratsche | chrisccoulson: Fixing it properly in Firefox is going to be quite difficult, and I don't have time to attempt that. | 15:41 |
| bratsche | By properly I mean doing what gtk+ does, and adjust the position of the bottom button. | 15:41 |
| chrisccoulson | bratsche, yeah, that's ok. i might try and figure out a way to do it at some point | 15:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: can I have a binary NEW for zeitgeist-extension-fts? debian didn't pick the same name than us :( | 15:43 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:43 |
| didrocks | thanks | 15:44 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine, know when dbusmenu 0.3.92 might be uploaded? | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, it is uploaded | 15:50 |
| cyphermox | ah, I see, sorry. I had missed the Latest Upload field | 15:51 |
| scott-work | didrocks: i need to run into an hour production meeting, but i have information about the default xsession problem you were helping me with | 15:57 |
| didrocks | scott-work: yeah? what's up? | 15:57 |
| scott-work | didrocks: originally i did not have the /etc/gdm/custom.conf file | 15:57 |
| scott-work | didrocks: but after i ran the command i did | 15:58 |
| didrocks | scott-work: with the right default session? | 15:58 |
| scott-work | didrocks: yes, but there was also a blank, empty line first (don't know that it matters) | 15:58 |
| didrocks | scott-work: no, it doesn't | 15:58 |
| scott-work | didrocks: but it did not seem to work still :( | 15:58 |
| didrocks | so, it seems to work well | 15:58 |
| didrocks | scott-work: are you testing with a new user or on your system? | 15:59 |
| scott-work | didrocks: oh! i need to add a new user and test it there? | 15:59 |
| didrocks | scott-work: because this is the "default session", like "you never changed your current user session" | 15:59 |
| didrocks | scott-work: if you removed your ~/.dmrc, it will be like you never changed your current user session | 15:59 |
| scott-work | didrocks: rock on! i shall try that tonight (both new users and removing .dmrc) | 16:00 |
| didrocks | scott-work: well, the goal is for the livecd and new installation, isn't it? | 16:00 |
| didrocks | so that's why it's only for new users :) | 16:00 |
| * scott-work deposits $0.05USD into the jono licensing fund for "rock on" | 16:00 | |
| scott-work | didrocks: well, ubuntu studio doesn't have a livecd currently (but that might change) but defintely for the new installation | 16:00 |
| didrocks | scott-work: yeah, that will do it then :) | 16:01 |
| scott-work | didrocks: it was my misunderstanding on how to test this appreantly, but i'm glad to have it cleared up :) | 16:01 |
| scott-work | didrocks: thank you again for the help! | 16:01 |
| didrocks | scott-work: you're really welcome | 16:01 |
| jono | scott-work, :-) | 16:03 |
| seb128 | jono, hey, do you have several desktop layouts configured? | 16:08 |
| jono | seb128, what do you mean? | 16:08 |
| seb128 | jono, keyboard layout I mean | 16:10 |
| seb128 | jono, your bug about the keyboard indicator being displayed | 16:10 |
| jono | seb128, ahhh - no, just one afaik | 16:10 |
| seb128 | jono, what is in the menu if you click on the indicator? | 16:10 |
| jono | seb128, I am not in front of the machine now, let me just boot it | 16:10 |
| seb128 | jono, ok, no hurry | 16:11 |
| jono | seb128, LOL | 16:11 |
| jono | OK, so it has USA and Afghanistan | 16:11 |
| jono | I have no idea how Afghanistan was selected as a layout | 16:11 |
| seb128 | jono: ok, so it's not a bug, or at least not an indicator one | 16:11 |
| jono | seb128, yep, thanks | 16:11 |
| seb128 | jono, did you lend your laptop to dholbach? ;-) | 16:12 |
| jono | apologies for wasting your time | 16:12 |
| jono | seb128, hah | 16:12 |
| seb128 | no worry | 16:12 |
| Laney | that was a keyboard-configuration bug I think | 16:12 |
| jono | Laney, ahhh cool | 16:12 |
| Laney | :-) | 16:13 |
| mterry | BTW, I'm in the middle of updating dconf so no one else do it, please | 16:14 |
| Laney | was/is? Colin will know more | 16:14 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok | 16:18 |
| seb128 | mterry, btw you got vala rights I see, great, thanks for fixing the desktop sets permissions on the way ;-) | 16:19 |
| mterry | seb128, np, not being core-dev has been useful for finding such gaps | 16:19 |
| seb128 | right, now that you fixed them you can probably apply though ;-) | 16:20 |
| seb128 | hey | 16:30 |
| seb128 | desktop meeting time? | 16:30 |
| kenvandine | yup | 16:31 |
| seb128 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2011-01-18 | 16:31 |
| didrocks | hey o/ | 16:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, didrocks, mterry, tremolux, rodrigo_, cyphermox: hey | 16:32 |
| tremolux | heya! | 16:32 |
| cyphermox | hey o/ | 16:32 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner said he would probably be catching up with sleep by now and pitti is hacking with GNOME guys this week | 16:32 |
| seb128 | did I forget anyone? ;-) | 16:33 |
| pitti | hello | 16:33 |
| seb128 | Riddell, hey | 16:33 |
| pitti | I'm lurking, but didn't prepare anything for the meeting | 16:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, no worry I'm running it | 16:33 |
| rodrigo_ | oh, meeting | 16:33 |
| seb128 | we had a productive sprint it seems | 16:33 |
| seb128 | the gdbus indicator stack landed | 16:33 |
| seb128 | great work mterry, kenvandine and tedg | 16:34 |
| seb128 | CD space was win | 16:34 |
| kenvandine | cool | 16:34 |
| seb128 | gtk3 dropped of the CD | 16:34 |
| seb128 | the xorg team got a new version ready for upload | 16:34 |
| seb128 | anyway, let's start the meeting | 16:34 |
| seb128 | I think there was no action from the previous meeting | 16:34 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, do we still do dx updates? I see no section for it on the wiki | 16:35 |
| kenvandine | we should | 16:35 |
| kenvandine | i don't really have anything this week though | 16:35 |
| seb128 | ok, so mic is yours | 16:35 |
| seb128 | I guess I covered it with the gdbus transition :-p | 16:35 |
| kenvandine | :) | 16:35 |
| seb128 | thanks kenvandine ;-) | 16:35 |
| seb128 | didrocks, unity update? | 16:35 |
| didrocks | all should be available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2011-01-18 | 16:36 |
| didrocks | I let you read :-) | 16:36 |
| * mterry read | 16:36 | |
| seb128 | great work | 16:36 |
| didrocks | thanks :) | 16:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, btw can you drop a note somewhere on the wiki or an email to the desktop list about session saving being dropped? | 16:37 |
| seb128 | so we have a record of it and a place to point people to | 16:37 |
| didrocks | seb128: oh sure, I'll do that just after the meeting | 16:37 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:37 |
| didrocks | adding to the wiki for now | 16:37 |
| didrocks | (email on the ubuntu-desktop ML if we see a lot of questions about it) | 16:37 |
| seb128 | while people read the unity summary I just go back to kenvandine for a few seconds | 16:38 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I think the email would be nice in any case | 16:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, can you just do a short summary of known issues after the indicator transition? | 16:38 |
| seb128 | or if you need extra testing | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | sure | 16:38 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, writing a more formal sumarry then :) | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | we know there is a bug in indicator-messages/libindicate which display multiple menus | 16:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks, I think we will have comments on the topic so better to use the list a bit and have the discussion there once | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | and some windows open have no menu in appmenu | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | at least i don't think mterry ever found a fix for that | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | we are sure the gdbus port added new bugs, please report them! | 16:40 |
| mterry | kenvandine, no, couldn't reproduce | 16:40 |
| seb128 | chriscoulson has been tracking a race in the appmenu handling | 16:40 |
| kenvandine | mterry, ok... everyone please keep an eye out for apps that don't have menus in appmenu | 16:40 |
| kenvandine | mterry, i haven't seen it since i got home | 16:40 |
| seb128 | bug #703769 | 16:41 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 703769 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Menus are not destroyed when a window is closed with GDbus port (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703769 | 16:41 |
| seb128 | that's one of the bugs from chrisccoulson | 16:41 |
| seb128 | thanks kenvandine | 16:41 |
| seb128 | thanks didrocks | 16:42 |
| seb128 | no questions about dx or unity? | 16:42 |
| seb128 | ok, let's move on | 16:42 |
| seb128 | tremolux, hey | 16:42 |
| seb128 | software-center update? | 16:42 |
| tremolux | hey seb128! | 16:42 |
| Riddell | hi seb128 | 16:43 |
| tremolux | yes, it's on the wiki - in summary, more startup improvements -- from over 3 seconds to about .75 on my machine since we started the effort | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | mterry, can you look at bug 703769 ? i know you looked closely at that code | 16:43 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 703769 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Menus are not destroyed when a window is closed with GDbus port (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703769 | 16:43 |
| seb128 | hey Riddell ;-) | 16:43 |
| tremolux | ratings and reviews is getting ready to land | 16:43 |
| mterry | kenvandine, ok | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | yay | 16:43 |
| seb128 | tremolux, impressive for the startup time, great work | 16:43 |
| tremolux | thanks! it's much nicer now :) | 16:44 |
| seb128 | gwibber integration done, rating and review ready | 16:44 |
| seb128 | everybody is going to want the next version ;-) | 16:44 |
| tremolux | cool :) | 16:44 |
| tremolux | it should be a lot of fun I think | 16:44 |
| seb128 | is there any question about software-center? | 16:44 |
| seb128 | seems not | 16:45 |
| seb128 | thanks tremolux! | 16:45 |
| tremolux | ok, thanks all! | 16:45 |
| seb128 | Riddell, hello again, kubuntu update? | 16:45 |
| Riddell | no immediate news, 4.6 final is due to be tagged today so a busy week and packaging and testing ahead | 16:46 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:47 |
| seb128 | questions about kubuntu? | 16:47 |
| seb128 | seems not | 16:47 |
| seb128 | thanks Riddell | 16:47 |
| seb128 | Xorg will be for the western edition | 16:47 |
| seb128 | is there any other topic? | 16:47 |
| seb128 | ok, that's a wrap then! | 16:48 |
| seb128 | thanks everybody | 16:48 |
| didrocks | thanks everyone | 16:49 |
| seb128 | urg | 16:49 |
| seb128 | I forget the http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/natty/canonical-desktop-team-natty-alpha-2.html update | 16:50 |
| seb128 | that's not on the new agenda ;-) | 16:50 |
| seb128 | seems we are a bit behind the trend line but mostly thanks to other teams items | 16:50 |
| seb128 | don't forget to update your workitems if you have any remaining | 16:50 |
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| kenvandine | cyphermox, i uploaded a distro patch for the nm-applet crasher in dbusmenu | 17:29 |
| mterry | kenvandine, nice | 17:32 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine, cool, I'll take a look now | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | tedg, have you started looking at the indicator-messages problem? | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | that one is annoying :) | 17:32 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Yeah, I think it's a libindicate bug. | 17:38 |
| mterry | tedg, I'd guess it's using notify::g-name-owner on unique names? | 17:39 |
| tedg | mterry, Yup, but it's not sending show as well... so I need to look into that. | 17:39 |
| seb128 | tedg, kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/dbusmenu/lp703689 | 17:58 |
| seb128 | btw | 17:58 |
| seb128 | did you see that one? | 17:59 |
| tedg | Yeah, looking at it now. | 17:59 |
| seb128 | it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-appmenu/+bug/703689 | 17:59 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 703689 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Window registration racy with GDbus port (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [High,New] | 17:59 |
| tedg | Not sure that I love it... trying to think of a better route. | 17:59 |
| kenvandine | bug 703689 looks like the one mterry was debugging but then couldn't reproduce | 18:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 703689 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Window registration racy with GDbus port (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703689 | 18:08 |
| pitti | good night everyone! | 18:33 |
| dobey | cheers pitti | 18:36 |
| didrocks | good night pitti | 18:40 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey | 18:50 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128, sorry i missed the team meeting. i feel rotten here today :( | 18:50 |
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| didrocks | have a good evening! see you tomorrow :) | 18:56 |
| mterry | kenvandine, you asked me to look at bug 703769. Chris's patch looks fine and works for me | 19:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 703769 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Menus are not destroyed when a window is closed with GDbus port (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703769 | 19:35 |
| kenvandine | mterry, that looks like the same problem you were debugging right? | 19:36 |
| mterry | Uh, maybe? | 19:36 |
| kenvandine | kind of sounded like it | 19:36 |
| mterry | kenvandine, hard to say. For sure a memory leak. And internal state would get a little odd apparently if we started re-using xids. So maybe that's what had happened when we saw it. And that would explain why it's hard to reproduce | 19:37 |
| kenvandine | yeah, ok | 19:38 |
| kenvandine | but... i never had a problem with firefox | 19:38 |
| * bcurtiswx sees the 10.10 triangle for status indicator applet | 20:02 | |
| bcurtiswx | just dist-upgraded on my 10.10 | 20:02 |
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| jasoncwarner | RAOF: TheMuso`: bryceh: robert_ancell, you ready for eastern edition meeting? | 22:00 |
| jasoncwarner | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2011-01-18 | 22:00 |
| RAOF | Good morning :) | 22:01 |
| TheMuso` | jasoncwarner: will be in a bit, just gotta reboot, brb. | 22:01 |
| jasoncwarner | RAOF: good morning! | 22:02 |
| jasoncwarner | TheMuso`: No worries, we'll be here when you get back :) | 22:02 |
| jasoncwarner | Ok, lets get started. | 22:03 |
| jasoncwarner | [TOPIC] X.org | 22:03 |
| jasoncwarner | RAOF: would you care to update X.org for us and bryceh can jump in if he is around? | 22:03 |
| RAOF | Yup. | 22:03 |
| TheMuso` | back | 22:04 |
| RAOF | Lookout! It's about to be break-my-X season! We're prepping Xserver 1.10RC1 and mesa 7.10 for natty. | 22:04 |
| jasoncwarner | RAOF: thanks for the heads up ;) | 22:05 |
| RAOF | 1.10 comes, as always, with a new input and video ABI, so installability issues may arise. | 22:05 |
| RAOF | We'll send an email to ubuntu-devel-discuss a bit before uploading. | 22:05 |
| RAOF | In other tangentially-X related news, we discovered at the sprint that some laptops have a broken VESA mode as the preferred mode, causing the shiny grub boot to be a corrupted framebuffer. Colin's looking at how to work around that. | 22:07 |
| RAOF | Xserver 1.10 should also fix some bugs that compiz/unity are running into. | 22:07 |
| TheMuso` | VESA, the standard that should have bin... Or should I say the standard that was not. | 22:07 |
| RAOF | VESA, the standard that nobody cares about because the last thing that really used it was dos 6.2 :) | 22:08 |
| jasoncwarner | RAOF: any ETA on 1.10? How quickly are you thinking? Later this week? next? | 22:08 |
| RAOF | Later this week is my plan. | 22:08 |
| RAOF | If it comes down to Friday, it will instead be next Monday : | 22:09 |
| RAOF | :) | 22:09 |
| jasoncwarner | very cool, thanks | 22:09 |
| RAOF | Mesa 7.10 shouldn't be long after that. | 22:09 |
| jasoncwarner | ok, so it sounds like break-my-X-season is officially during LCA ;) | 22:10 |
| jasoncwarner | Anything else for X? | 22:10 |
| RAOF | Nothing that springs to mind. | 22:11 |
| jasoncwarner | ok... | 22:11 |
| jasoncwarner | [TOPIC] AOB | 22:11 |
| jasoncwarner | robert_ancell: TheMuso` Anything you wanted to add? | 22:11 |
| robert_ancell | nope | 22:11 |
| jasoncwarner | Ok then | 22:12 |
| jasoncwarner | last thing is WI | 22:12 |
| jasoncwarner | http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/natty/canonical-desktop-team-natty-alpha-2.html | 22:13 |
| jasoncwarner | we are a bit behind the trend line even with a great rally week | 22:13 |
| jasoncwarner | don't forget to close out your WIs as you finish them | 22:13 |
| jasoncwarner | there are some on other teams and we should be pushing those teams to clear their WIs as well. | 22:13 |
| jasoncwarner | if nothing else.... | 22:14 |
| jasoncwarner | [END_MEETING] | 22:14 |
| TheMuso` | I guess its worth mentioning that there will not be a meeting next week, due to Australia day. | 22:15 |
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| bryceh | rats, sorry was preoccupied duping intel gpu hang bugs | 22:15 |
| jasoncwarner1 | bryceh: no worries..if you want to add something, please do! | 22:16 |
| jasoncwarner1 | TheMuso: thanks for the reminder... | 22:16 |
| bryceh | jasoncwarner1, one point (in fact reason why I was deep into gpu dump bugs), there seems to be a common gpu hang on Intel | 22:18 |
| bryceh | bugs #702090 and #686388 and their dupes | 22:19 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 702090 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "i965gm GPU lockup after suspend failed (EIR: 0x00000010 PGTBL_ER: 0x00000100) (affects: 10) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702090 | 22:19 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 686388 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[i965gm] GPU lockup - Invalid GTT entry during Display B Fetch (affects: 1) (dups: 3) (heat: 24)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686388 | 22:19 |
| bryceh | I suspect both are the same bug, but can't prove it yet | 22:19 |
| bryceh | anyway that appears to be the most serious bug we have in X at the moment (pre-1.10) | 22:19 |
| bryceh | it still will be an issue with 1.10 as per xorg-edgers testers (it's probably a driver bug). | 22:20 |
| bryceh | once 1.10 is in we'll then bring in the Q4 intel driver (which is released but not yet packaged). Maybe that'll fix it. | 22:21 |
| bryceh | jasoncwarner1, other than that, had fun seeing everyone last week. | 22:21 |
| RAOF | Yeah, 'twas good. | 22:21 |
| TheMuso | Indeed, had a great week. | 22:22 |
| TheMuso | Even though I was stuck in teh DX room. :) | 22:22 |
| bryceh | pitti, haha 704279 | 23:01 |
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