[00:33] !test [00:33] Failed! [00:46] Oh yay, more awfulness in -ot [00:51] meh [00:55] so as usual, carry on [00:56] The kid he's talking to doesn't even understand he's being told to not wank. [00:57] must.not.type. [00:59] bazhang, from colombian 3g? doubt it. [01:00] bazhang: _16BitSubsystem_/Root_Time [01:00] _AV_ ? [01:01] bazhang, yah [01:01] checking the bt [01:01] Yes [01:02] * elky figured you thought it was jungli [01:02] but i can't fathom how he'd get a connection through colombian 3g internets [01:04] lol [01:05] thought he was saying my name , knowing I was an op and wanting to call attention to the root4d3d's comment [01:05] jungli usually is more jocular [01:05] bazhang: I thought he was one of those trolls that says hi to you. [01:06] hi bazhang [01:06] Pici, heh yeah [01:06] :0 [01:06] *mind blown* [01:06] viva la tiedye! [01:22] I'm going /away. JAMES_698 appears to have gotten a clue, but best keep an eye on him. [01:22] in #u, that is. [01:30] IdleOne, PM [01:30] saw it [01:31] As much as I'd like to see certain problem users gone, I think we should avoid baiting them. [01:31] if he thinks he is going to intimidate the ops by making veiled threats he has another thing coming [01:31] lets just let it drop please [01:32] will do [01:34] Pici, I was going to leave it until he essentially threatened to ban evade. [01:34] Didn't want to tacitly accept such stupid comments in -ot of all places. [01:39] bazhang, callico10 [01:39] elky, ah [01:41] Who is that? [01:41] someone silly [01:41] some guy who claims to use orca and gets scared by lens artifacts for news reports. [01:42] oh, and uses orca so much he spells it orcha [01:42] the Capitol Building is white, so I can see the confusion with the White House [02:14] I don't know what the hell is going on in #ubuntu-offtopic [02:14] I'm sober. [02:14] I think thats the problm [02:15] hmmm [02:15] an elaborate troll? [02:15] or a teen [02:16] ah, yes. [02:16] you can understand my confusion [02:22] Jordan_U, hi [03:00] * tonyyarusso pouts [03:00] The Launchpad people have made it impossible for LoCos to be open teams [03:02] ? [03:04] tonyyarusso: I noticed that. [03:05] Because the parent team is moderated [03:05] Ubuntu Local Community Teams [03:05] I had a "request" come in this AM [03:06] :( [03:07] yup [03:07] Super annoying. [03:07] I was all "This used to be open, how in the hell..." [03:07] Is this something that's appeared overnight? [03:07] Exactly. I specifically remember going through all of my teams and making sure they were set to "open" a while back, so was confused. [03:07] elky: apparently [03:08] Well, I noticed it this morning when I had an email requesting for a user to be approved [03:08] elky: ^ [03:08] same [06:48] !screenshot =~ s#http://tinyurl.com/imagebin#http://imagebin.org/?page=add# [06:48] I'll remember that rww [09:06] oh bollocks. I think I mightve just deleted all my PM's... :/ [09:11] ouch [09:11] this is incidentally why i like having bip logs as well as xchat logs [09:12] if both those manage to go with one fell swoop, then hell, nothing was going to stop that [11:34] bah r00t4rd3d is in -ot? [11:35] He wins the award for most offensive mail I've received this year. [11:35] yep, still reading the logs here to check for reactions [11:35] he just applied for -irc-members [11:36] lovely [11:36] o_O [11:36] Ohh dear. [11:36] gord, got your flaksuit on? [11:37] popey, yeah, he hadn't done anything there yet other than some vaguely misogynist comments which we noticed after the fact. [11:38] popey, with all due perspective, the year is only 18days old :P [11:38] well, yes. :) [11:38] do you mean "the past year's worth of days" then? Because I'm pretty sure that's both valid and true. [11:39] I would need to invoke the google to check that one [11:46] any thoughts if I did the right thing there? [11:46] Yeah. He was baiting. [11:47] he was asked by two different people to move on, and kept pushing harder [11:48] There's been a string of (unidentified) people lately who always respond to warnings with something along the lines of telling the op in question that *they* are somehow breaking the guidelines. I suspect it may all be one person. [11:49] be back in a few. feel free to PM him if you like [11:50] Not necessarily. It's the MO of a particular group. [11:50] s/the/one/ [11:51] eh, I've seen group-like behavior along those lines before, but this week's -ot one's have been a pretty specific subset. [11:59] * tonyyarusso pokes gord [11:59] hm? [11:59] gord: the guy you kicked came back [11:59] gord, you going to follow up with r00t4r3d? [12:00] i'm surprised he didn't get a namespace wide ban, tbh [12:01] Hobbsee, if he doesn't smart up very quickly, I'm sure the CC will back me in instituting one. [12:01] given what was on the irc ML [12:01] that's true [12:02] to be fair. [12:03] I mean, I'd love to keep him banned from this channel given how distasteful he is, but this is a fresh round of dealings. [12:04] Ive just got a PM from him [12:04] I havent time to deal with it now - trying to get stuff done here at work [12:04] [14:02:03] come on [12:04] [14:02:15] why they trying to bait me like this [12:04] That's not even a real question. [12:05] he's just trying to cause trouble. make sure you give him no ammunition, and all is fine [12:05] bonus points for ignoring PM's, and only talking to him in logged channels, for the purpose of the ban tracker, and ircc [12:05] Hobbsee, see, the tricky part is that he interprets "being asked to follow rules" as ammunition. [12:06] elky: yes, well [12:06] Hobbsee, woo! I win there. [12:06] elky: of course. i was going with "the less that's said to him, the less he can use as ammunition" [12:07] i guess i shoul dhave said "make sure you give him no ammunition beyond wha tyou need to" [12:07] bah. i swear i can type [12:07] * tonyyarusso sighs [12:07] I hear you, Im at the next level also, so have to deal with it there as well ;) [12:07] Hobbsee, He also interprets not talking to him in PM but discussing with other ops as ammunition. [12:07] "This drive is 1/2" too long to fit in my case is turning into "spend $60 on Newegg to get parts that work" [12:08] tonyyarusso, heh. [12:08] SATA drive, SATA card, SATA cable - argh [12:08] elky: yay. We can only deal with unreasonable behaviour. If he's going to turn reasonable behaviour into ammunition, then that's unfortunate, but also shows more about him, and less about the ops team [12:09] Yep. He can come here and try be reasonable. [12:09] my standard with people is just to ask them to come into #ubuntu-ops to discuss, telling them further pms will be ignored and setting ignores on their pms, works out okay normally [12:09] and make the ircc's decision easier to make, of course [12:09] gord, yeah well... we'd needed to ban him from here. Thrice. [12:10] I just lifted those to let him try a fresh round of appeals with hopefully 100% less insults. [12:10] thats fine, if we are ignoring pms and he refuses to discuss in here then he just stays banned everywhere else [12:10] That's also fine by me. [12:15] banned again cause of my nick , I thought this was already dealt with. [12:16] r00t4rd3d, i'm going to make this plain, the only way you will be allowed back into #ubuntu-offtopic is if you change your name, that is the only outcome here [12:16] Well, you haven't changed nick, so...? [12:16] Ok , Ill appeal [12:19] sam-_- called the ops in #ubuntu (usuario) [12:20] Just in case it somehow wasn't obvious to you, note that uburediculous is ubufind. [12:21] WOuld it really be so wrong to seriously suggest banforwarding "usuario" to -es? [12:22] With consent of the -es ops of course [13:08] gord: did you forget to remove r00t4rd3d? [13:10] geez, why doesn't this script remove people too on ban [13:10] rassinfrassinmakingmegetupandgototheothermachinegrumblegrumble [13:12] * popey tickles gord [13:14] Seems gord is channeling saturday morning cartoons [13:16] lè sigh [13:38] topyli: ping? [13:42] * tonyyarusso hates the Canonical Store [13:43] $28 for shipping on a $15 item? I don't think so. [13:44] jungli using new cloak to ban evade in -ot; asked him to leave and he did [13:44] athiest_monk [13:45] tonyyarusso: ++ [13:53] jussi: crackle [13:55] tonyyarusso: theres a US store iirc. [13:58] used to be, dont think there is anymore [14:05] jungli has *two* cloaks now, spicemaster (unless that was removed) and now athiest_monk (which he is currently using to ban-evade in -ot) [14:06] !staff | jungli/athiest_monk etc ban evading in #ubuntu-offtopic [14:06] stupid bot [14:06] jussi :P [14:07] !staff | see above [14:07] oh duh [14:07] stupid netsplits [14:07] congrats [14:08] shaddup... been a long day [14:08] jussi, aww... *hugs jussi* [14:08] h00k! [14:08] (btw, the bot is back) [14:10] nhandler, read your google docs item on opping; just to clarify is there any reason to post the raw log instead of a pastebin of the PM with the person you are discussing while they are +q ? [14:10] seems quite common sensible btw [14:20] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1567 users, 1 overflows, 1568 limit)) [14:20] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1573 users, 5 overflows, 1578 limit)) [14:22] OzoneScaredyMan == Calico10 [14:23] yep [14:23] jungli is banned in #ubuntu as well? [14:23] i'm not a on a computer right now that has stuff to deal with people, if someone else could that would be grand [14:27] gord: on the ac100? :) [14:37] what is the other nick/ident ban Athiest_Monk has under? [14:37] jungli [14:37] john_smith [14:37] jungli [14:37] oooh. that one. [14:37] spicemaster as well [14:37] fantastic. Same ident, or do those change? [14:38] change [14:41] hehe [14:41] coffee time! [14:42] yessssss [14:42] genii-around, !!!! [14:42] :) [14:49] There's been a flood of interesting people in #ubuntu-offtopic lately [14:50] hehe [14:55] define $interesting [14:57] popey: I'm gonna go ahead and leave that ambiguous [14:58] hehe, that last line made me think of http://www.the-reel-mccoy.com/movies/1999/images/officespace_lumbergh.jpg [14:59] * genii-around slides bazhang a yummy coffee [15:00] thanks! [15:02] popey: I'm gonna go ahead and ask you to come in on Saturday... :D [15:05] :) [15:06] I don't get it. How do you ban-evade with a cloak if IP/hostname bans see through cloaks? [15:06] rww: they don't. [15:07] :) [15:07] This disagrees with the last time I tested this. Guess I will go try again. [15:07] rww wants to ban-evade :( [15:07] rww: Make sure that you identify before joining the channel. [15:08] I'm seriously considering asking OzoneScaredyMan to stop disrupting the channel. [15:09] that works too [15:09] IP bans still work and hostname bans don't. wth. [15:09] dude he is bablling on about who knows what [15:10] jasono? [15:10] away message [15:10] ^ this [15:10] has been given !away more than a handful of times now [15:10] aww === knome_ is now known as knome [15:10] ahha. [15:10] The Cape sounded nice too [15:11] unless he meant Cape Fear! [15:12] oh joy, they disconnected between me removing them and me /msging them. [15:14] so which ban evasion were you talking bout?> [15:18] jasono: Hi. Over the last few days, you've been asked repeatedly by ubottu to stop your IRC client from announcing away messages. I've banforwarded you here from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic because you apparently missed those messages. [15:18] jasono: Having your client announce your away message is not allowed by Ubuntu's IRC Guidelines, as it causes excessive scrolling. People can /whois you if they want your away status, you don't need to output it to channel. [15:19] jasono: Please fix this and then let me know, and I'll remove the banforwards. Thanks. [15:21] or, more correctly, someone else will, because it's work time for me. I nominate h00k! [15:42] i have come here to help you with your intelligence information. I am not related to any bad man . I am just waiting for my mom to get home from the store. i apologize if i am different. you have no need to be worried [15:42] i feel responsible for telling you that i am not like other people for a diagnosed reason [15:43] so it may help for you to not profile me like the others. this is to prevent guilty before proven innocent mentality [15:43] rww I mam sorry, please calm down because this is my first year using IRrc. Gosh! I won't use it again. [15:43] thanks and have a wonderful evening [15:45] jasono: rww is perfectly calm, he's just explaining some rules of the road. [15:46] Give ,e a break. popey you told be to use /away yesterday [15:46] Actually I didnt. I just said please switch off the announcements when you're away. [15:47] using /away is a great way to tell others that you're away from the computer, announcing it in every channel is less useful :) [15:47] Me using /away announces it in every channel [15:48] jasono: what client are you using? [15:48] and we're asking you to turn that off, jasono [15:48] that's all [15:48] when can I join Ubuntu-off topic? [15:48] hypatia I know [15:48] IdleOne I am using XChat [15:48] ok, go to settings > preferences > General and uncheck the "Announce away messages" [15:49] IdleOne: our resident xchat xpert! [15:49] that will disable the announcing in channels [15:49] then you should be able to use /away away msg here and we will only see it if we /whois you [15:50] Thank you IdleOne instead of yelling like these people. [15:51] jasono: they weren't yelling, they were just trying to explain the channel policies :) but I am glad we got it sorted. thanks for your understanding [15:51] Cool. [15:51] can an -ot op remove the ban please [15:51] sure, let me check it out [15:52] you can rejoin #ubuntu also now [15:52] jasono: you should be set to join #ubuntu-offtopic now [15:53] Again, thanks for your cooperation [15:55] IdleOne No problem [15:55] hook Thank you [16:04] popey, he's in #u-uk now [16:11] h00k, IdleOne: thanks :) [16:11] no problem [17:05] hello folks... [17:05] hi cprofitt [17:05] is aanyone here that is familiar with the r00t4rd3d issue? [17:06] he is talking to me as the lead contact for the loco he is a member of [17:07] cprofitt: I'm not aware him being any kind of contact [17:07] oh, you mean you are? [17:07] he is not -- I am [17:07] he tells me there was a misunderstanding... [17:07] cprofitt: sorry my bad, I'm aware of the issue, how can I help? [17:07] and not sure how to help resolve it or if I am gettng the truth [17:08] np [17:08] cprofitt: shortly said, he flips and goes attacking any ops who dares to say anything he could take as negative [17:09] ok... [17:09] that is not good... [17:09] it all might have started as misunderstanding, but things have been escalated beyond the line by his actions [17:09] would he be able to come in here and apologize... I think I have him down from angry [17:10] cprofitt: I would rather see his apology in ubuntu-irc mailing list, but you might like to consult the IRCC on this [17:11] I could have him do that too... [17:11] thanks Tm_T [17:11] cprofitt: just don't even try to promise his ban would be lifted in any near future (: [17:11] and thank you for all the time on this [17:12] no problem... it happens... [17:12] I just want people to enjoy Ubuntu [17:12] same here (: [17:21] cprofitt: I worry that you're wasting your time. Even frustrated people don't threaten to visit your house or suggestively say that your daughter is cute. [17:24] Pici: I understand... [17:24] I did not have any real background [17:25] he made quite a few nasty accusations so to things people said about him too... I dismissed those and told him his only path was to calm down and apologize [17:31] He needs to start by changing his nick. ;) [17:46] why do these types never threaten to visit MY house? [17:49] mneptok: because you would enjoy it? [17:49] :P [17:50] http://mneptok.com/bang.jpg [17:50] maybe it's that. [17:51] mneptok: it was with a lot of trepidation that I clicked that link... [17:52] try the mouse next time. it works better. [17:53] heh [17:54] jussi: that has apparently been his nick for 6 years [17:54] cprofitt: doesn't make it less inflammatory and puerile. [17:54] mneptok: I understand that point of view [17:54] cprofitt: he seems to have aged 6 years using that nick, but not matured at the same rate, IMO. [17:55] I can also understand it being difficult for a person to just drop and change [17:55] cprofitt: any user is welcome to use any nick they want. we're all adults here. and like adults, users should accept the consequences of their choices. [17:56] I would 100% agree it the base of the name was not r00t [17:56] I certainly see the most people would not see that subtle difference... and did advise him to change his nick [17:57] cprofitt: the fact is, he has a nick that equates to "retarded" - which isnt something I or the other ops find appropriate. [17:57] I am trying to be respectful [17:57] cprofitt: when i joined Canonical, i was able to point to years for IRC history using the nick "mneptok" [17:57] cprofitt: so keeping a nick is wholly understandable. [17:58] jussi: his nick would be rootarded... he said he chose it because he had issue with using Linux at first... I do not wish to judge him based on his original purpose was to make fun of himself... [17:58] cprofitt: however, if i had asked Mark to look at my IRC contributions under a nick like "r00t4rd3d," i don't think i would have been hired. [17:58] at the same time he needs to be respectful... but calling him immature is likely not the best way to ask for him to see another point of view [17:59] mneptok: I agree... and understand. [17:59] I am just trying, as best I can, to see his side [17:59] even if I do not agree with him [17:59] forget the nick issue. [18:00] he was asked to /join this channel, and proceeded to argue and complain about every action we requested he take. [18:00] that's unacceptable Ubuntu IRC behavior. full stop. the discussion of "sides" ends there. [18:01] I understand and appreciate what you guys do mneptok [18:01] he then decided to watch the HTML-ified logs, look for anything he could complain about, and come here to throw it in our faces. [18:02] mneptok: thanks... I am not advocating for him... and I have to run to a meeting [18:02] i don't care about the nick as much as i do his apparent beleif that the rules that apply to everyone somehow do not apply to him. [18:02] * cprofitt nods [18:02] I agree completely [18:02] cprofitt: i know you're not. just be careful about where you choose to expend your time and effort. [18:02] the information I got from a few others indicates his reaction was more of an issue [18:03] mneptok: I understand... I have given this only a wee bit of time... [18:03] gotta run to that meeting... [18:03] bbl [18:03] cprofitt: please part from here and come back if you need us again ;) [18:03] thanks [18:04] now let's wait for the logs to get pushed to the web, and expect the inevitable. [18:17] @login [18:17] The operation succeeded. [18:25] A question in #u: robbit10> bencahill: About !patience: When you have asked a question and about 10 minutes have passed, is it okay to ask again [18:26] I said this: robbit10: not an op, but I would say if it's been 10 minutes, rephrase your question and you can ask again. don't ask more than two or three times in an hour, come back at a later time, or figure it out yourself. again, just my opinion though, don't know what the ops think :) [18:26] What do ya'll say? [18:28] bencahill: I'd say that once every 10 minutes is fine, but it really depends on how busy the channel is. [18:29] Pici: Thanks, good to know. [18:29] I suppose I shall leave now. :) === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [23:03] Well, since he gave permission: [23:03] fat fucking slob , your lucky your a 12 hour flight away from me [23:03] pastebin that show all your faggot friends moose [23:04] when was this? [23:06] 2.5hrs ago [23:06] just out of the blue? [23:07] I'd imagine it's his way of thanking me for unbanning him from this channel so he could come in and discuss his situation. [23:09] * rww ponders today's Grexo nick in #u-ot [23:10] rww save me reading scrollback? [23:10] elky: JPL2 [23:10] He's being sane today. I think I will leave him alone. [23:11] Yeah, that'll only be a limited time offer. [23:45] act now! [23:45] for two easy payments of... [23:47] NOW how much would you pay!? don't answer yet! because you also get .... REVERSI! [23:47] * h00k kicks mneptok in the shin [23:48] Paste this car into your document, now with Miami Vice [23:48] *stupid collar thing*