[00:13] <dmcglone> Hi everyone
[00:15] <Unit193> Hello dmcglone
[00:15]  * Unit193 just got home
[00:15] <Unit193> How was the library?
[00:20] <dmcglone> I haven't had a chance to go check it out
[00:20] <dmcglone> I'm going to go check it out tomorrow while the kids are in school
[00:36] <canthus13> Just got an overly-enthusiastic new ubuntu user. He was quite happy to just reinstall after he broke his network drivers since I couldn't give the extended support over the phone here at work...
[00:36]  * canthus13 sent him links to the loco page and pointed him to this and #ubuntu.
[00:38] <Unit193> canthus13: are your prices good for your area?
[00:40] <Unit193> The ISP you work for
[00:42] <canthus13> Pretty good, yes.
[00:49] <canthus13> We have pretty plain pricing. It's a little higher initially, but we don't hide anything.. None of the sudden price hikes or bait & switch crap that at&t pulls.
[00:50] <Unit193> I looked-up your prices... ours are about the same.... Akron has better then both...
[00:51]  * canthus13 will say without a doubt that his company has better support than just about any other. :)
[00:51] <Unit193> Helping linux users? I would say so!
[00:53] <Unit193> Ok, our price is a bit better...
[00:54] <canthus13> :)
[00:54] <Unit193> Did you ever finish your puzzle? ;)
[00:55] <canthus13> NOpe.
[01:13] <dmcglone> I'm back. had to take a movie back
[01:14] <Unit193> Welcome Back dmcglone!
[01:14] <dmcglone> they would have charged me a full $1.00 if I didn't get it back by 9pm according to my wife... LOL
[01:16] <dmcglone> I got my time warner internet today, I can tell a big difference
[01:16] <Unit193> speedtest.net
[01:17] <dmcglone> 10.79
[01:17] <dmcglone> Woah!
[01:18] <dmcglone> .48 up
[01:18] <Unit193> No fair.....
[01:18] <dmcglone> Whooo hoooo
[01:19]  * dmcglone has never had anything over 2.5 - 3.0
[01:20]  * Unit193 never had anything over 1
[01:20] <Cheri703> hola boys
[01:20] <Unit193> Hello Cheri703
[01:20] <Unit193> How did it go?
[01:20] <Cheri703> :/ didn't do it today
[01:20] <Cheri703> doing it tomorrow
[01:20] <dmcglone> Hi Cheri703
[01:20] <Cheri703> didn't feel well
[01:20] <Cheri703> hey dmcglone
[01:20] <Cheri703> matt is really happy with his site :)
[01:21] <dmcglone> :-)
[01:21] <dmcglone> I'm glad he is
[01:21] <dmcglone> You should get credit too ;-)
[01:24] <dmcglone> Man I'm ecstatic about that 10.79Mbps
[01:25] <dmcglone> the cable guy was telling me how crappy Belkin routers are today
[01:25] <Unit193> I don't like the one I have looked at...
[01:26] <Unit193> BiosElement: This sum any of it up? http://antimatter15.com/wp/2011/01/the-ambiguity-of-open-and-vp8-vs-h-264/
[01:26] <dmcglone> He told me that Belkins were more geared for 1 room kinda stuff
[01:26] <BiosElement> Ahh hangon I'll look
[01:27] <Unit193> Cisco/Linksys seems good
[01:27] <dmcglone> Thats what he said
[01:28] <Unit193> What do you have?
[01:28] <dmcglone> Belkin
[01:28] <dmcglone> LOL
[01:28] <Unit193> Use FF?
[01:29] <dmcglone> yeah I use firefox why?
[01:31] <Unit193> In the login screen, right click in the frame a view the frame source
[01:31] <Unit193> Search for pass
[01:31] <Unit193> see if it's in the source (or if they fixed it in your version)
[01:31] <BiosElement> Unit193: No, not really. Dude seems to have a bias for patents
[01:32] <BiosElement> Not to mention he's dead wrong on a few points.
[01:32] <BiosElement> And it's not truly great what MPEG has done. >.>
[01:32] <BiosElement> He'd rather brand everyone who thinks Software patents are evil a F/OSS Extremist.
[01:33] <Unit193> Ah, I didn't look at the history part
[01:33] <BiosElement> Right now, the discussion has been polarized between free software advocates who often seek to eradicate proprietary or patent-encumbered ideas from the face of reality and those who hold a disregard for the open source values.
[01:33] <dmcglone> ok let me look
[01:33] <BiosElement> ^Note how he goes from eradicate, to simply a disregard for values
[01:34] <dmcglone> it's not there
[01:34] <dmcglone> they seem to have fixed it
[01:35] <Unit193> dmcglone: That's good, the one I have used only lets you set a 3 letter pass
[01:36] <dmcglone> really?
[01:36] <dmcglone> that sux
[01:37] <Unit193> BiosElement: That seemed to be somewhat of a good summary where it talks about the diff browsers and such...
[01:37] <BiosElement> Yeah, it started good
[01:37] <Unit193> dmcglone: Can't even flash it to DD-WRT or Tomato
[01:37] <BiosElement> But his conclusions are biased for patents which proves either a) he makes money from it or b) he doesn't understand it
[01:38] <dmcglone> Or C he's an idiot
[01:38] <Unit193> I only read up till the history
[01:38] <Unit193> Do you have a better summary?
[01:54] <BiosElement> Not really
[01:57] <BiosElement> "My concern is that the free software advocates are derailing the whole debate and demanding that the entire video industry (they will claim offline video can be re-encoded for web use, but this is impractical for a number of reasons) must only use a free and open standard."
[01:57] <BiosElement> ^Awesome, good to know people like paying 15 million dollars a year to encode in H.264. :)
[01:57] <Unit193> OK, I didn't/don't want to go around and read about 10 blog posts about it..
[01:57] <Unit193> I think dropping H.264 was a good idea
[01:58] <BiosElement> Hunting for a resonable article on it
[01:58] <BiosElement> Kinda hard heh
[01:59] <Unit193> I think I mostly know what's going on...
[01:59] <dmcglone> BiosElement: I think it should be a free/open standard
[01:59] <dmcglone> I think everything should be a free/open standard
[02:00] <BiosElement> dmcglone: Yes, but we're 'freetards' who are too poor to pay 15mil for encoding videos. >.<
[02:01] <dmcglone> I don't care how they encode the crap, just make it so it's accessible without fear of being sued
[02:01] <BiosElement> You can acccess it easy
[02:01] <canthus13> dmcglone: Belkin routers *ARE* crappy.
[02:01] <Unit193> dmcglone: At this point do you really care if you're using Adobe Flash?
[02:01] <BiosElement> It's legal to view H.264
[02:01] <BiosElement> But if you encode it, you're screwed.
[02:01] <dmcglone> I'm referring to stuff like drivers etc..
[02:02] <dmcglone> I think the web should adapt 1 standard and enforce it.
[02:02] <Unit193> Same question, are you not going to use it if it isn't "free"?
[02:02] <Unit193> (OpenSource)
[02:03] <BiosElement> Unit193: I know I would. But if I can't encode H.264 legally I wouldn't. ;)
[02:03] <dmcglone> I wouldn't use it
[02:04] <Unit193> You wouldn't use it if it isn't OpenSource?
[02:04] <dmcglone> no, I wouldn't use it if it wasn't
[02:06] <Unit193P> That was more at Bios then you dmcglone... but thanks...
[02:06] <BiosElement> Hmm
[02:06] <dmcglone> the point i'm trying to convey is like HTML, it works everywhere and it's freely accessible, I think everything should be that way
[02:06] <BiosElement> "The announcement merely makes it free to distribute content that people have already licensed to encode, he said. Decoding that content will need a license, as will developing the content."
[02:06] <BiosElement> ^Wow...so free means nothing
[02:06] <dmcglone> I don't care if they charge for their apps, just don't make it hard to access that app with "special drivers"
[02:07] <BiosElement> "The question is, who are you going to trust to not hold standards licensees to ransom? Little MPEG or giant Google?" Howe asked. "At this point, I don't think we know who is the bigger bandit."
[02:07] <BiosElement> Linuxinsider is full of themselves with that quote
[02:08] <BiosElement> Seeing as Google already issued legally binding guarentees that they won't sue users of VP8 for patents and release it free >.>
[02:08] <dmcglone> got a point there
[02:08] <BiosElement> While in the otherhand MPEG has sworn to sue anyone who violates their patents
[02:08] <BiosElement> And 'little' MPEG has microsoft...apple...intel...real little companies
[02:08] <Unit193> I don't care if I need nvidia drivers as long as they are free (as in I don't have to pay)
[02:09] <dmcglone> thats how I feel Unit
[02:09] <dmcglone> I don't support a company that charges you to be able to access their product
[02:10] <Unit193> I just asked you the question and you said you wouldn't use them...?
[02:10] <dmcglone> sort a like kroger charging a cover charge to shop there for kroger brands
[02:10] <dmcglone> I said i would, I misread your question
[02:11] <dmcglone> wait a second
[02:11] <dmcglone> I'm confused here
[02:11] <dmcglone> the way I feel is like the kroger analogy
[02:12] <dmcglone> flash? no problem, but don't force me to use an OS that I don't wanna use
[02:12] <Unit193> "Don't make me pay to use the nvidia drivers"?
[02:12] <dmcglone> right
[02:12] <Unit193> That's why synaptic bugs me...
[02:13] <Unit193> I think it's synaptic.....
[02:14] <dmcglone> how does it bug you?
[02:15] <dmcglone> we didn't have to pay for synaptic
[02:16] <Unit193> My bad.... the Ubuntu repo...?
[02:16] <dmcglone> we don't pay for that either?
[02:16] <Unit193> "Multiverse - Software that is not free. "
[02:17] <dmcglone> now that doesn't bug me, but at least put the drivers on a CD so they are available offline
[02:17] <Unit193> Maybe it's just me.... but I would kinda like to merge Multiverse and Universe
[02:18] <Unit193> So browsing is better (it would be for me, I don't know about anyone else)
[02:18] <dmcglone> they are just basically in 2 separate folders that all
[02:19] <dmcglone> I don't see why we would want to mix free with non-free
[02:19] <dmcglone> let it be known who supports "free" :-)
[02:19] <Unit193> I have said it before, "Software that is not free." "Software that is not OpenSource." or am I wayyy of on thsi??
[02:19] <dmcglone> the non-free drivers are in the "dunce" folder ;-)
[02:20] <dmcglone> Software that is not free is not OpenSource
[02:21] <dmcglone> OpenSource is the ability to have access to the source code of the program
[02:21] <dmcglone> so it can be improved by anybody, not just one company or person
[02:21] <Unit193> non-free = I have to pay money to use this
[02:21] <dmcglone> no
[02:21] <dmcglone> well not exactly
[02:21] <Unit193> That is my way of thinking...
[02:22] <dmcglone> non-free is where the source code is closed and nobody is permitted to alter it or anything, but it also means you have to pay for it in a lot of instances
[02:22] <Unit193> Yes, I know that
[02:23] <Unit193> But if you tell me "That software isn't free" or "That software is non-free" I'm going to think I have to pay money for it...
[02:24] <dmcglone> I think closed source are companies hiding OpenSource code
[02:24] <Unit193> I'm ok with calling them closed source...
[02:24] <dmcglone> not necessarily, but it's pretty much true
[02:25] <Unit193> I use/find/know of tons of software that is closed source but "freeware"
[02:25] <dmcglone> I call em thieves :-)
[02:26] <dmcglone> I think a lot of closed source companies take opensource software and sell it and they don't want to give the OpenSource authors credit or compensation
[02:27] <Unit193> Does this bother you http://www.formatoz.com/ <-- they use mencoder
[02:27] <Unit193> As a dll/exe (windows or Wine
[02:29] <dmcglone> no that don't bother me
[02:29] <Unit193> Why not?? Now I am confused.....
[02:29] <dmcglone> If I have a product that I am legally  entitled to, and It forces me to use a format I don't want to use then I'd use that site if I had to
[02:31] <Unit193> It isn't OpenSource...
[02:31] <dmcglone> but it converts to any format
[02:31] <dmcglone> OGG is open
[02:31] <dmcglone> PNG is open
[02:32] <Unit193> That program is closed source... it can convert to open formats
[02:33] <dmcglone> doesn't matter to me if a programmer chooses to make his program open or closed. What matters to me is whether using the product limits me to only using closed source
[02:33] <Unit193> My Sansa Fuze "needs" the "Sansa Media Converter" to work with videos, this is one thing I do not like! (so I put Rockbox on it :) )
[02:33] <dmcglone> there ya go
[02:34]  * canthus13 never understood watching videos on an MP3 player...
[02:34] <Unit193> OK, now I think I understand! You don't care that much as long as you don't have to only use that program!
[02:34] <canthus13> the screen's too damn small.
[02:34] <dmcglone> right
[02:34] <Unit193> canthus13: very long car rides...
[02:34] <canthus13> Unit193: That's what my laptop's for.
[02:34] <Unit193> but the screen is too dang small
[02:35]  * Unit193 doesn't have a laptop with a batt
[02:35] <canthus13> Laptop + FM transmitter. :)
[02:35] <canthus13> Unit193: Inverter FTW.
[02:35] <canthus13> Unit193: http://www.google.com/search?q=100+watt+inverter&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbs=shop:1&tbo=u&ei=afw0TY2sLoa8lQe8gI3SCg&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CDUQzAMwAA
[02:35] <canthus13> most of those would work fine.
[02:35] <Unit193> It also has no HD space (network shares)
[02:36] <canthus13> that could be a problem... But a 16GB thumb drive could hold a decent selection of movies... or use the fuze as a hard drive.
[02:36]  * Unit193 has to figure out how to make Linux use SMB server
[02:36] <canthus13> Samba.
[02:37] <dmcglone> it's easy
[02:37] <Unit193> s/use/be
[02:37] <canthus13> Samba.
[02:37] <canthus13> It was easier to use NFS, so I got rid of windows on all the machines in the house. :)
[02:37] <dmcglone> canthus13: I can't do that, my son and I play command and conquer
[02:38] <canthus13> dmcglone: Play nethack instead. :)
[02:38] <canthus13> (kidding.)
[02:38] <dmcglone> but all other times my compters are on linux
[02:38] <canthus13> My kids play sauerbraten.
[02:38] <Unit193> I have Samba/CIFS working as a client (not all to my liking)
[02:38] <canthus13> and minecraft, lately.
[02:39] <canthus13> I may have to set up a minecraft server for my kids.
[02:39] <dmcglone> haha
[02:39] <dmcglone> my son loves C&C
[02:39] <dmcglone> my son, my best friend and me play it a lot
[02:39] <canthus13> Ah. never got into it myself.
[02:40] <dmcglone> it's the only game I play
[02:40] <dmcglone> Yuri's revenge is the best
[02:41] <dmcglone> I used to play starcraft and Diablo II but haven't in like 8 years
[02:41] <dmcglone> so basically my windows box is only used for a game box
[02:41] <Unit193> Starcraft!!!
[02:41] <dmcglone> yeah
[02:42] <dmcglone> why you like starcraft?
[02:42] <Unit193> It will play on the very old comps
[02:42] <dmcglone> yeah it will
[02:42] <dmcglone> good game isn't it
[02:42] <Unit193> (plus the oldest mac you have seen in a long time...)
[02:43] <Unit193> Very good game.... I cheat too much...
[02:43] <dmcglone> Diablo II is also a good one
[02:44] <Unit193> Never played that one..
[02:44] <dmcglone> It's a good one
[02:44] <dmcglone> http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/games/d2/
[02:45] <Unit193> Will it also play on the oldest of the old?
[02:45] <dmcglone> I can't recall, I played it on a win 95 machine though
[02:46] <dmcglone> it does require direct x, but it's worth it
[02:46] <Unit193> I may try to put that on the old mac...
[02:47] <Unit193> G3 OS9
[02:47] <dmcglone> look on the website for the requirements
[02:48] <Unit193> I did, I was asking you because a real person is much better then some random requirement
[02:48] <dmcglone> I've never owned a Mac.
[02:48] <dmcglone> never will for that matter
[02:48] <dmcglone> :-)
[02:49] <Unit193> Laptop with a battery that works.... not much good for anything else but SC at this point
[02:49] <dmcglone> it's worth a shot then
[02:51] <Unit193> I have been trying to get X/Lubuntu on the desktop G3, no luck yet
[02:51] <dmcglone> doesn't the G3 use a variant of Ubuntu?
[02:52] <Unit193> what? G3 is PPC
[02:52] <dmcglone> I thought it was an Apple
[02:52] <Unit193> I can't even find the terminal on it...
[02:53] <Unit193> It is...
[02:53] <Unit193> Desktop = Mac OS 8.6
[02:53] <Unit193> Laptop = OS9
[02:53] <dmcglone> and I thought Mac used a Ubuntu variant?
[02:54] <Unit193> Not as well as I know...
[02:55] <dmcglone> thats totally weird, I could have swore the mac was using linux
[02:55] <paultag> dmcglone: BSD
[02:55] <paultag> dmcglone: so, UNIX
[02:55] <dmcglone> Ah ok
[02:55] <paultag> it uses a mach kernel, not the linux kernel
[02:55] <paultag> but they use a lot of the GNU userland, such as libc, and gcc, as well as bash
[02:55] <dmcglone> Ah
[02:55] <dmcglone> that clears it up for me
[02:55] <paultag> so to most people, working in GNU/Linux is much the same as working in GNU/Mach
[02:56] <paultag> dmcglone: :)
[02:56] <dmcglone> yup
[02:56] <paultag> only thing is that OSX sucks a fat one when it comes to a sane FHS layout
[02:56] <dmcglone> I agree
[02:56] <paultag> speaking of, time to see if I can get it in a virtualbox
[02:56] <dmcglone> lol
[02:56] <Unit193> Mac os 8.6 and 9 don't seem at all like Linux...
[02:57] <canthus13> That's because they're not based at all on any *nix.
[02:57] <paultag> Unit193: those are not based on BSD or any UNIX
[02:57] <paultag> OSX was the big change
[02:58] <Unit193> In OSX some of the CLI commands are the same (cousin has one) in 8.6 and 9 I can't even find the terminal
[02:58] <Unit193> Do the pre X ones have a terminal?
[02:58] <paultag> Unit193: actually, OSX runs bash and a mostly GNU userland. Instead of X11, it uses their crapware Cocoa
[02:58] <paultag> or whatever it is
[02:58] <paultag> Unit193: no, I don't think so
[02:59] <Unit193> Thanks for the info... now if only you could get ubuntu installed on one for me.... :D
[02:59] <paultag> Unit193: poke skellet on identica
[02:59] <paultag> Unit193: he keeps a G4 up with Ubuntu
[03:00] <dmcglone> wait if it's pre x then it was before a user interface, so shouldn't it be nothing but a terminal? LOL
[03:00] <paultag> dmcglone: actually, no -- Macs ran MS-DOS before Mac OS
[03:00] <paultag> dmcglone: Mac OS has always been GUI based. Just not X11
[03:00] <dmcglone> I know but DOS is a terminal
[03:00] <paultag> dmcglone: aye, so Mac OS it's self never had one until OSX, I think
[03:01] <paultag> unless someone tacked one on at sometime
[03:02] <dmcglone> Oh well, all I know is I'll never own an apple product
[03:02] <dmcglone> :-)
[03:03] <paultag> dmcglone: :)
[03:03] <dmcglone> I seen today the new Samsung tablets
[03:03] <Unit193> From what I know, the Intel Macs run Linux very well... :D
[03:03] <paultag> they sure do :)
[03:03] <paultag> Unit193: and there are teams looking to make sure the hardware is well supported
[03:05] <Unit193> paultag: I don't have an Intel one and I don't plan on getting one...
[03:05] <paultag> Unit193: poke skellet on identica
[03:05] <dmcglone> Unit193 AMD backer huh?
[03:06] <Unit193> dmcglone: Intel mac....
[03:06] <dmcglone> Oh darn, i misread once again!
[03:06] <dmcglone> dang I need to get my eyes checked
[03:06] <dmcglone> or my brain for that matter ;-)
[03:06] <Unit193> paultag: I can't do it tonight and I don't really want to bug him (don't really know him)
[03:07] <Unit193> dmcglone: I could use a brain check...
[03:07] <paultag> Unit193: What's your identi.ca name?
[03:07] <Unit193> I don't have one
[03:07] <dmcglone> Unit193 just blame it on paultag
[03:07] <paultag> :)
[03:07] <paultag> Unit193: twitter?
[03:07] <Unit193> Nope...
[03:08] <dmcglone> he takes the blame for everything anyway, might as well add this one to his repitore
[03:08] <paultag> dmcglone: :P
[03:08] <paultag> Unit193: your email, then
[03:08] <dmcglone> lol
[03:08] <dmcglone> I'll be surprised if you don't have that
[03:08] <dmcglone> LOL
[03:09] <Unit193> He doesn't have my email...
[03:09] <paultag> Unit193: I don't
[03:09] <paultag> Unit193: I'm sending the mail, don't worry
[03:09] <paultag> Unit193: He's an Ohio-en, and in your LoCo
[03:09] <dmcglone> you didn't get what I was saying guys
[03:09] <dmcglone> lol
[03:10] <Unit193> paultag: sending the mail?
[03:10] <dmcglone> he said he didn't have identic.a then he said he didn't have twitter
[03:10] <paultag> Unit193: you need help with installing Ubuntu on a mac classic?
[03:10] <dmcglone> I'd just use a hammer and be done with it
[03:11] <Unit193> The desktop was free...
[03:11] <Unit193> Need to upgrade the HDD
[03:11] <dmcglone> they should have provided the hammer too
[03:11] <dmcglone> ;-)
[03:11] <Unit193> 6G... already fixed the ram
[03:11] <Unit193> mostly...
[03:12] <BiosElement> Any PHP coder care to lend the CubeCreate a hand? https://identi.ca/notice/62444438
[03:12] <dmcglone> mostly?
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[03:12] <dmcglone> I'll take a look :-)
[03:12] <paultag> Unit193: all set. you've got mail
[03:13] <BiosElement> Thanks dmcglone, I already took a stab at it. Looks easy enough, if you actually know PHP. I barely understand it since I quit so early and went to python >.>
[03:13] <dmcglone> is this your project?
[03:13] <Unit193> paultag: I did see this
[03:15] <BiosElement> dmcglone: CubeCreate is my project. And I need that feature for our site heh
[03:15] <BiosElement> I'll be murdered in my sleep if I leave a twitter feed up there
[03:16] <BiosElement> Site is http://cubecreate.com/ he
[03:16] <BiosElement> >.>
[03:16] <dmcglone> What all needs to be done with PHP?
[03:17] <BiosElement> Well the patches are already there and apparently work, but they need ported to the Drupal 7 version of the module so the maintainer can apply them.
[03:17] <dmcglone> I've never ported stuff :-(
[03:18] <BiosElement> dmcglone: It really doesn't look that hard, I could 'almost' do it myself...but I suck at PHP
[03:20] <dmcglone> I am willing to give it a go, the coding shouldn't be a problem, it's all the other stuff that might be
[03:22] <dmcglone> BiosElement: do I need to get an identi.ca identity first?
[03:23] <BiosElement> dmcglone: Nope, what you can do is just rework the patches and either test them yourself or email them to me/pastebin/whatever and I'll give them a test.
[03:26] <dmcglone> well too late got one anyway.. LOL
[03:26] <dmcglone> Ok let me try and find the patches again
[03:27] <BiosElement> Heh
[03:30] <dmcglone> BiosElement: is it all 3 attachments or just the twitter-pull-lilsting.tpl.php?
[03:35] <BiosElement> dmcglone: I think it's all 3
[03:35] <dmcglone> ok
[03:35] <dmcglone> I'll take a look tomorrow
[03:36] <BiosElement> Aight thanks dmcglone
[03:36] <dmcglone> No problem
[03:37] <dmcglone> I'm gonna get ready to turn in for the night
[03:37] <dmcglone> I'll talk to you all later
[03:38] <Unit193> Bye dmcglone
[15:18] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[15:21] <thafreak> So, I tried out the new linux mint debian edition...I have to say, I'm quite impressed
[15:22] <thafreak> I've been digging squeeze anyway, but mint ads that extra polish I kind of been used to on the desktop
[15:22] <thafreak> I'm half tempted to put it on my one desktop at home
[17:57]  * Cheri703 is FREE
[18:22] <Unit193> Cheri703: Sweet! now what? ;)
[18:22] <Cheri703> relax for a few days, and then send out applications
[18:22] <Unit193> Blood pressure going down yet?
[18:23] <Cheri703> getting there :)
[18:23] <Cheri703> no car, no job, but happy :) kind of ironic
[18:23] <Unit193> The no car could be an issue....
[18:49] <Unit193> I think my KVM PM'd bbb.... dang thing!
[18:52] <Cheri703> ?
[18:58] <Unit193> When I use my KVM to switch screens, the mouse/keyboard send PgDn and other random commands...
[18:58] <Unit193> In doing so, I sent bbb a message... I think
[18:58] <Cheri703> ah
[19:06] <Unit193> Ubuntu takes about 20-30 sec to work it out, while XP takes less
[19:07] <Unit193> I looked for a program that helped Ubuntu handle it a little better..
[19:08] <Cheri703> you just need a newer kvm...one that is happier
[19:19] <bbb_> a few yeah.. =)
[19:19] <bbb_> no worries
[20:36] <canthus13> Cheri703: How'd they take it? Blowing up your phone yet?
[20:36] <Cheri703> I think she was in shock
[20:36] <Cheri703> I think she really expected me to work another 2 weeks
[20:36] <canthus13> Heh.
[20:38] <Cheri703> I've never been happier to be unemployed and car-free :)
[20:42] <deejoe> Cheri703: congratulations
[20:42] <Cheri703> thanks
[20:44] <Cheri703> there's some upheaval going on in the columbus agency, so once that gets figured out, some strong possibilities for me
[20:52] <canthus13> bah. the FTC gave the nod to the Comcast/NBC merger. :(
[21:09] <BiosElement> Hmm, my domain 'colonylinux.com' is about to expire. I don't need it, but if anyone wants it let me know. ^_^
[21:31] <BiosElement> HELLYEAH!!!!! http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/568
[21:31] <BiosElement> >.>
[21:44] <Unit193> Going to give Ubuntu a shot?
[21:52] <Unit193> I love xkill...
[22:15] <BiosElement> http://twitter.com/#!/garrynewman/status/27333815240232960
[22:15] <BiosElement> ^Awesome
[22:32] <Unit193> Yep... that's great...
[23:29] <canthus13> ColonyLinux... sounds like a bacteria.
[23:42] <BiosElement> Hah
[23:56] <canthus13> Debian installed on a bacterial colony...