| BaG_FiGHter | hello! | 01:09 |
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| === wedwo is now known as wedwo- | ||
| Kilos | morning superfly and all you other guys | 05:37 |
| superfly | morning oom Kilos | 05:38 |
| Kilos | lol | 05:39 |
| Kilos | you back to that again oompie | 05:39 |
| Kilos | are you and the family well? | 05:41 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 05:41 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 05:41 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 05:45 |
| Kilos | Maaz, dankie | 05:45 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier Kilos my vriend | 05:46 |
| superfly | Kilos: sorry, really busy here at work... the family is well | 05:50 |
| Kilos | glad to hear that. | 05:52 |
| Owkkuri | sup oom Kilos | 06:12 |
| Kilos | lol you too | 06:12 |
| Kilos | all well here ty and you | 06:12 |
| Kilos | after i did mv i ended up with only 30m update to download. thanks alot | 06:14 |
| Owkkuri | cool | 06:24 |
| Owkkuri | :) | 06:24 |
| Kilos | dunno if this will work with usb broadband modems as well. but does with cellphone use as a modem on voda | 06:26 |
| Kilos | for those with small caps | 06:27 |
| Kilos | boot with phone connected then when online unplug data cable and plug it back in after about 2 or 3 secs | 06:28 |
| Kilos | if i dont do this then when i open pidgin data use is up to 1.5m | 06:28 |
| Kilos | if i do it then data use is only around 60kB opening pidgin and i am sure it use less for everything else as well | 06:29 |
| Kilos | morning maiatoday | 06:30 |
| maiatoday | hi Kilos | 07:04 |
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| === frozty_sa is now known as froztbyte | ||
| Kilos | afternoon all | 14:22 |
| Kilos | hi fwolff | 14:23 |
| fwolff | hi Kilos | 14:23 |
| Kilos | ar you new here? | 14:23 |
| fwolff | I'm so new, I don't even use ubuntu yet :-) | 14:23 |
| Kilos | move it | 14:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:24 |
| fwolff | but friends with several people here. was actually looking for highvoltage, but found him elsewhere. | 14:24 |
| fwolff | trying to be polite and not leave the moment I got what I wanted :-) | 14:24 |
| Kilos | ah | 14:24 |
| Kilos | where are you | 14:24 |
| fwolff | so what kind of kilos are you? | 14:24 |
| fwolff | Pta | 14:24 |
| Kilos | me too | 14:25 |
| fwolff | or Translate.org.za, more precisely | 14:25 |
| Kilos | been quiet here this year the guys are very busy seems to me | 14:25 |
| Kilos | antway welcome to ubuntu-za | 14:25 |
| fwolff | thanks | 14:25 |
| fwolff | so who here wants to help us maintain a PPA of our software? | 14:25 |
| Kilos | what software? | 14:26 |
| fwolff | Virtaal, Pootle, Translate Toolkit | 14:27 |
| fwolff | http://translate.sourceforge.net/ | 14:27 |
| fwolff | We have this: https://launchpad.net/~translate.org.za/+archive/ppa | 14:27 |
| fwolff | but it is falling out of date | 14:27 |
| Kilos | hang around. someone should see this chat before midnight | 14:28 |
| fwolff | we have another community member who wants to have a PPA for bleeding edge releases - nice idea | 14:28 |
| fwolff | walterl used to maintain it, but got busy | 14:29 |
| fwolff | maybe a ping is all that is necessary :-) | 14:32 |
| Kilos | yeah walter has become scarce | 14:32 |
| deegee | Maaz: weather pretoria | 18:32 |
| Maaz | deegee: In Lanseria, South Africa at 8:00 PM SAST on January 18, 2011: 20°C; Humidity: 88%; Wind: SE at 11 km/h; Conditions: Partly Cloudy; Sunrise/set: 5:31 AM SAST/7:03 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 5:53 PM SAST/3:46 AM SAST | 18:32 |
| deegee | Maaz: weather jiddah saudi arabia | 18:33 |
| Maaz | deegee: In Jeddah King Abdul Aziz International Airport, Saudi Arabia at 9:00 PM AST on January 18, 2011: 21°C; Humidity: 48%; Wind: North at 7 km/h; Conditions: Scattered Clouds; Sunrise/set: 7:03 AM AST/6:03 PM AST; Moonrise/set: 4:42 PM AST/5:30 AM AST | 18:33 |
| deegee | Maaz: thank you kindly | 18:33 |
| Maaz | no problem, deegee | 18:33 |
| inetpro | deegee: you in Jeddah? | 18:34 |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:34 |
| deegee | inetpro: yes | 18:34 |
| deegee | good evening inetpro & all | 18:34 |
| deegee | inetpro: i'm back thursday | 18:35 |
| deegee | inetpro: how have you been? | 18:35 |
| inetpro | deegee: am good thanks | 18:35 |
| * inetpro enjoyed a bit of fresh air today at school athletics | 18:36 | |
| deegee | inetpro: kwl. | 18:36 |
| deegee | inetpro: r u back @ work? | 18:36 |
| inetpro | deegee: yep, been back since last week already | 18:37 |
| * deegee thinks work sucks. | 18:37 | |
| deegee | inetpro: have you played a bit with Natty? | 18:38 |
| * deegee is waiting patiently for the galaxy tab... | 18:38 | |
| inetpro | deegee: no | 18:39 |
| * inetpro is very patient | 18:39 | |
| * superfly doesn't have the bandwidth to do stuff like that | 18:40 | |
| deegee | understood. well there's flaws and most of them are corrected within time. | 18:41 |
| deegee | superfly: hmmmm... you'll get there sometime soon | 18:41 |
| inetpro | deegee: I read a blog the other day with someone arguing that with the cost of the galaxy tab you should much get a decent netbook | 18:41 |
| inetpro | the netbook is so much more flexible | 18:41 |
| inetpro | they say if you need a reading device you should much rather get the kindle | 18:42 |
| deegee | inetpro: i already own an ubuntu maverick netbook!!! i now need a tab | 18:42 |
| deegee | stuff kindle! | 18:42 |
| deegee | the TAB is kwl | 18:42 |
| inetpro | deegee: the TAB and it's OS is very limiting | 18:43 |
| deegee | inetpro: point taken, but at the end of the day i got a new toy and soon i'll run ubuntu on it | 18:44 |
| * inetpro hates the limited battery life on the tabs | 18:45 | |
| inetpro | and for that matter on most modern smartphones | 18:45 |
| inetpro | BTW, did MTN announce new data deals recently? | 18:46 |
| * inetpro noticed new ads on TV but just caught the end of it | 18:46 | |
| deegee | inetpro: i have no idea.... being out of the country for some time. sorry! | 18:47 |
| inetpro | deegee: the TAB sure is a cool device, even if I have to say so myself | 18:47 |
| deegee | inetpro: does their site say something about the promo? | 18:47 |
| deegee | inetpro: lol | 18:48 |
| deegee | inetpro: TAB is a great device. | 18:48 |
| deegee | like i said, i had doubts on the netbook when i got it but i enjoyed it as soon as i installed ubuntu on it | 18:49 |
| deegee | something might come up for the TAB's | 18:49 |
| inetpro | deegee: I have seen guys blog about ubuntu on the iPad | 18:50 |
| deegee | inetpro: hmmm.... that might have sparked an idea on the handhelds.... | 18:51 |
| inetpro | ubuntu is just not ready for the telephony as far as I can see | 18:51 |
| * deegee will checkout the ubuntuforums for that info on the iPad's & TAB's | 18:52 | |
| deegee | inetpro: is that for real? they not ready? | 18:52 |
| superfly | inetpro: Maemo is :-P | 18:52 |
| deegee | superfly: will Maemo be compatible for the TAB? | 18:53 |
| superfly | deegee: Maemo sadly is pretty much no more... but MeeGo, Maemo's successor, should be | 18:54 |
| deegee | superfly: tnx, will google the info further then... | 18:55 |
| superfly | well, depends on the hardware, of course, but it should be just a case of getting the drivers | 18:55 |
| * deegee notes on the rednotebook... for tomorrow | 18:56 | |
| Morganvd | meego works on most | 18:56 |
| inetpro | deegee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1392368 | 18:56 |
| Morganvd | netbooks | 18:56 |
| Morganvd | i have had it on my dell and hp | 18:56 |
| deegee | superfly: tnx again | 18:57 |
| * inetpro tried running meego on virtualbox the other day | 18:57 | |
| Morganvd | meego take getting used to | 18:57 |
| deegee | Morganvd: you mean MeeGo or Maemo? | 18:57 |
| Morganvd | i use ubuntu netbook on mine | 18:57 |
| Morganvd | MeeGo | 18:57 |
| inetpro | ran into some issues and put it aside for the moment | 18:57 |
| deegee | Morganvd: tnx | 18:57 |
| superfly | deegee: Maemo was written for Nokia's N800 and N900 series devices | 18:58 |
| Morganvd | version 1.1 is here | 18:58 |
| Morganvd | next release is april i think | 18:58 |
| deegee | so then if the TAB is not ready as yet, then i might look at the n900 as an alternative? | 18:59 |
| Morganvd | yeah MeeGo is mainly run by intel and Nokia | 18:59 |
| inetpro | deegee: and even on the ipad forums they're talking about ubuntu | 18:59 |
| inetpro | http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-hacking/357-ubuntu-ipad.html | 18:59 |
| inetpro | deegee: IMHO I don't think you can compare the TAB directly with the n900 | 19:01 |
| inetpro | but the n900 sure looks like a very cool device as well | 19:01 |
| deegee | inetpro: that is very true to not compare the 2 | 19:02 |
| deegee | i was refering to something to have instead of the other | 19:02 |
| * inetpro would love to have both devices for a month at a time before making a decision to purchase any one of them | 19:02 | |
| deegee | lol | 19:04 |
| deegee | inetpro: that's a very cool idea | 19:04 |
| inetpro | in fact I think any geek with a few spare bucks could be living in a dream world these days | 19:04 |
| inetpro | so many new devices lining up behind each other all the time | 19:04 |
| inetpro | or should I rather say any gadget geek | 19:05 |
| Morganvd | geek gadget geek whats the diffrence i drule every day at the new toys out | 19:06 |
| inetpro | Morganvd: some geeks enjoy to push the limits with devices purchased with hard earned cash | 19:09 |
| Morganvd | true | 19:09 |
| Morganvd | i love the new stuff but somethings are just out of price range | 19:10 |
| * inetpro agrees with Morganvd | 19:10 | |
| wedwo- | haha, I'm still drooling over p4's | 19:11 |
| Morganvd | october my company laptop is up for upgrade | 19:12 |
| Morganvd | im going for the mac book pro | 19:12 |
| deegee | Morganvd: good for you... | 19:14 |
| deegee | in a laymans term, the TAB is not ideal for now? | 19:15 |
| Morganvd | im not a fan of the TAB | 19:16 |
| Morganvd | i like my netbook more | 19:16 |
| deegee | Morganvd: noted. | 19:16 |
| Morganvd | TAB is a 7inch cell phone on steriods | 19:16 |
| superfly | ugh... OS X | 19:16 |
| deegee | huh! | 19:16 |
| deegee | hence imentioned on laymans terms....! | 19:17 |
| Morganvd | superfly: ? | 19:17 |
| superfly | Morganvd: I worked on OS X for a year... couldn't stand it | 19:17 |
| inetpro | Kilos: wb | 19:17 |
| Morganvd | hey Kilos | 19:17 |
| deegee | Kilos: wb | 19:17 |
| Kilos | hi guys you all well | 19:18 |
| Kilos | ty | 19:18 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 19:18 |
| Morganvd | superfly i dont know if ill keep OS X on it | 19:18 |
| deegee | ubuntu runs on the macBook... | 19:19 |
| Morganvd | it does | 19:19 |
| Morganvd | i just love the shape and the power of how a mac is built | 19:19 |
| inetpro | Two charged over iPad hacking on AT&T network http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70H3BH20110118 | 19:19 |
| Morganvd | superfly: btw try this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/ubuntu-izing-kubuntu-ambiance-style/ | 19:19 |
| superfly | Morganvd: I don't want Ubuntu's look and feel, actually... I prefer KDE's themes | 19:20 |
| Morganvd | i might use kubuntu after all | 19:20 |
| deegee | inetpro: are you an iPad fan? | 19:20 |
| inetpro | deegee: nope, but the hardware certainly is ahead in the race | 19:21 |
| Morganvd | superfly: i mean have you seen the screenies | 19:21 |
| Kilos | do any of you have probs getting a usb flash to boot with an iso on it | 19:21 |
| superfly | Morganvd: looking now | 19:21 |
| Kilos | i have tried a custom iso and the maverick startup disk option but it wont boot | 19:21 |
| deegee | Kilos: not me, i had success booting up always | 19:21 |
| superfly | Kilos: if there's an ISO on it, then it won't boot... if the ISO has been converted to work on a USB stick, then I don't know | 19:21 |
| Morganvd | Kilos: there has been issues with startup disk creator on mavr | 19:22 |
| Kilos | oh | 19:22 |
| Morganvd | i used unetbooten | 19:22 |
| Morganvd | and have had no issues | 19:22 |
| Kilos | i have just tried unetbootin and same thing | 19:23 |
| Kilos | pc just hangs when it should boot | 19:23 |
| deegee | Morganvd: i used USB for maverick and worked all the time... | 19:23 |
| Morganvd | when last have you updated | 19:23 |
| Kilos | yesterday | 19:23 |
| deegee | now i'm on natty USB | 19:23 |
| Kilos | i wonder if the pc is not happy doing it | 19:23 |
| Morganvd | deegee: i think you missing the point when using mav to right a img to usb we have been getting random errors | 19:24 |
| Kilos | in bios it shows the usb | 19:24 |
| deegee | Morganvd: ok. | 19:24 |
| Morganvd | Kilos: do you tell the machine to boot from usb Kilos | 19:24 |
| Kilos | yes as first boot device | 19:25 |
| Morganvd | my dell is F12 and my HP its F9 | 19:25 |
| deegee | inetpro: what would you suggest on the topic; on toys/ | 19:25 |
| Kilos | or is there a way to write an iso to multiple cd's | 19:26 |
| deegee | s/toys//toy? | 19:26 |
| Kilos | i got a 830 custom iso and cd only wants 700m | 19:26 |
| * deegee needs some research on the new toys... | 19:26 | |
| deegee | Kilos: can't you write it on a dvd? | 19:27 |
| inetpro | deegee: I would wait a bit, unless you have a few savings | 19:27 |
| Kilos | no dvd . pc too slow | 19:27 |
| Kilos | eish | 19:27 |
| deegee | Kilos: ok, sorry | 19:27 |
| Kilos | ty guys. carry on | 19:28 |
| deegee | inetpro: understood.... | 19:28 |
| superfly | deegee: if you want a toy, either an N900, or the MeeGo successor to the N900 (whatever that may be) | 19:28 |
| inetpro | superfly: I just wish the successor would be announced soon | 19:29 |
| deegee | superfly: thank you kindly for the info. | 19:29 |
| superfly | inetpro: yeah, me too | 19:29 |
| * deegee will wait for now | 19:29 | |
| superfly | the N8 is an *awesome* phone, except for one thing... it runs Symbian | 19:29 |
| * inetpro agrees with superfly | 19:30 | |
| deegee | superfly: and the n900 runs? | 19:31 |
| superfly | Maemo | 19:31 |
| superfly | Debian derivative | 19:31 |
| deegee | i get the drift | 19:31 |
| * superfly compiled and installed his IRC client, Quassel, on his phone | 19:32 | |
| drubin | yum yum | 19:32 |
| deegee | but does it mean Symbian is not that great of an OS? | 19:32 |
| drubin | deegee: NO symbian is a horrid horrid bad OS | 19:32 |
| superfly | deegee: from a user's perspective, it's OK | 19:32 |
| deegee | drubin: kwl. and andriod? | 19:33 |
| drubin | android is ok. | 19:33 |
| superfly | but I like being able to actually hack on my phone, without needing to jailbreak or root it | 19:33 |
| deegee | understood | 19:33 |
| drubin | superfly: Well not exactly you would never get decent apps for Symbian phones | 19:33 |
| superfly | drubin: well, Nokia's S60 and S90 versions there are apps for, but I had a UIQ3 version on my old SE m600, and there were *NO* apps for it | 19:34 |
| inetpro | drubin: most users are still happy with the little they have on their Symbian phones | 19:34 |
| deegee | the TAB is running android. | 19:34 |
| deegee | @ the end of the day, i want to see myself using a device/handheld with something that makes me happy. | 19:37 |
| deegee | whether meego or whatever free/opensource.... | 19:37 |
| inetpro | the thing that bugs me with these modern smartphones is that in the end it still is a phone | 19:38 |
| drubin | true | 19:38 |
| inetpro | if you depend on the phone functionality you can not really afford to hack to much around with it | 19:39 |
| deegee | inetpro: true | 19:40 |
| deegee | i opt for the TAB because i really don' want the voice functionality on it, only data | 19:41 |
| deegee | i have phones, and i'm very happy with them. | 19:41 |
| deegee | s/don'/don't | 19:42 |
| deegee | i'm also happy with my netbook. | 19:43 |
| deegee | superfly: what device are you using? just curious. | 19:44 |
| deegee | phone i meant. | 19:44 |
| superfly | deegee: Ah. I have a Nokia N900 | 19:45 |
| deegee | kwl | 19:45 |
| superfly | very | 19:45 |
| superfly | inetpro: btw, the N900 is actually officially marketed as an Internet tablet | 19:46 |
| inetpro | superfly: nice | 19:46 |
| deegee | superfly: would you explain that? | 19:46 |
| deegee | "internet tablet" | 19:47 |
| superfly | deegee: a good few years ago nokia brought out the N800, which has no phone whatsoever | 19:47 |
| deegee | ok | 19:47 |
| superfly | it runs/ran Maemo (version 2 or 3 or something) and was solely meant as a small internet-enabled device | 19:48 |
| deegee | ok | 19:48 |
| superfly | the N900 is a progression of that device, so it now includes a phone ;-) | 19:48 |
| deegee | kwl | 19:48 |
| superfly | http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/archive/2010/11/07/first-impressions-nokia-n900 | 19:48 |
| superfly | http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/archive/2010/11/08/first-impressions-nokia-n900-part-2 | 19:48 |
| deegee | superfly: tnx | 19:49 |
| deegee | superfly: what would you suggest; TAB or n900 or wait? | 19:53 |
| deegee | sorry for being a pain | 19:53 |
| superfly | deegee: it really depends on what you want to get out of the device | 19:53 |
| superfly | I *really* wanted the N900 | 19:53 |
| superfly | Android devices look really great, and I'd recommend them to my non-geeky friends | 19:54 |
| superfly | if you're a developer geek like me, you'd probably want a little more out of your device than what Android can offer, which is why I love my phone so much | 19:54 |
| deegee | thing is i don't want a phone functionality anymore on the device | 19:54 |
| superfly | it gives me that ability and that power, and you can see Nokia made it a developer's phone | 19:55 |
| superfly | deegee: then you don't want the N900 | 19:55 |
| superfly | not sure you want the TAB either though | 19:55 |
| superfly | bit if you want something like the iPad, then get the TAB, I've heard people say that they want to sell their iPad after buying a TAB | 19:56 |
| deegee | hence i say; i should do some research an check what's kwl | 19:56 |
| deegee | i want to keep my toys | 19:56 |
| * deegee like having toys of all kinds ... | 19:56 | |
| superfly | http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=1955 | 19:57 |
| * deegee chex the link... | 19:58 | |
| drubin | the galexy tablet looks cheap though | 19:58 |
| * drubin got to play with one 2 days ago | 19:58 | |
| deegee | drubin: very cheap... | 19:58 |
| drubin | the screen isn | 19:59 |
| drubin | isn't compareable though | 19:59 |
| deegee | np with screen. thing is; the more advance you are the better you are 1 step ahead ... | 20:01 |
| sakhi_ | http://www.zenoss.com/in/wp_gartner_magic_quadrant.html | 20:07 |
| * sakhi_ eish another 4 runs for India. | 20:09 | |
| * sakhi_ yes yes yes ;) | 20:09 | |
| * deegee needs some sleep. | 20:11 | |
| deegee | Maaz: time jeddah saudi arabia | 20:11 |
| Maaz | deegee: Huh? | 20:11 |
| deegee | Maaz: time jeddah saudi | 20:12 |
| Maaz | deegee: What? | 20:12 |
| deegee | Maaz: time jiddah | 20:12 |
| Maaz | deegee: Sorry... | 20:12 |
| deegee | it's 23h18 in jiddah, nite all | 20:15 |
| Kilos | night deegee | 20:15 |
| drubin | gnite | 20:35 |
| Kilos | night all sleep tight | 20:36 |
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