[00:07] hm, power failure in the middle of message writing doesn't work out well [15:44] ochosi: what happened to greybird? My natty install changed completely after updating [15:45] lighter gray panels, almost no change from launcher to selected launcher, sliders are dark gray instead of white [15:47] Good morning [15:47] and it might be natty and xfce4.8 doing it, too [15:48] I picked tango icon set, but it is not switching from elementary [15:49] Looks like the icons and themes are locked somehow. [15:51] charlie-tca: you need the magic key, to get it you need to kill 3 trolls and a dragon [15:51] davmor2: thanks. I will go hunting for the dragon, then [16:13] charlie-tca: no clue tbh [16:13] charlie-tca: screenshots? [16:14] Pretty sure it isn't greybird at all. It is something with xfce 4.8 [16:14] oh ok [16:16] my connection seems a lot shakey today ;-( [17:38] ochosi, mr_pouit : apparently, todays fresh installation of Natty is using Bluebird themes to start the desktop, then switches to a modified greybird theme that can not be changed easily. I can change the Window Manager theme, but not the gtk theme in Appearance. The icons and theme are locked. [17:39] ochosi, mr_pouit : this theme lock is in both the fresh install and my Natty installation. the only thing that can be changed in Appearance is the font used. [17:45] ochosi, mr_pouit : screenshot at http://imagebin.org/133250 [17:50] oh, yeah, and this is with my Appearance theme set to Clearlooks and icons set to Tango [17:58] I think I tried all the themes trying to find one that will change anything. [17:58] I was set up with greybird yesterday, when I started the system today, this is what I got [18:24] charlie-tca: looks like a clean theme-break. supposedly something with the engines is not working [18:26] Thanks