[00:07] <charlie-tca> hm, power failure in the middle of message writing doesn't work out well
[15:44] <charlie-tca> ochosi: what happened to greybird? My natty install changed completely after updating
[15:45] <charlie-tca> lighter gray panels, almost no change from launcher to selected launcher, sliders are dark gray instead of white
[15:47] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[15:47] <charlie-tca> and it might be natty and xfce4.8 doing it, too
[15:48] <charlie-tca> I picked tango icon set, but it is not switching from elementary
[15:49] <charlie-tca> Looks like the icons and themes are locked somehow. 
[15:51] <davmor2> charlie-tca: you need the magic key, to get it you need to kill 3 trolls and a dragon
[15:51] <charlie-tca> davmor2: thanks. I will go hunting for the dragon, then
[16:13] <ochosi> charlie-tca: no clue tbh
[16:13] <ochosi> charlie-tca: screenshots?
[16:14] <charlie-tca> Pretty sure it isn't greybird at all. It is something with xfce 4.8
[16:14] <ochosi> oh ok
[16:16] <charlie-tca> my connection seems a lot shakey today ;-(
[17:38] <charlie-tca> ochosi, mr_pouit : apparently, todays fresh installation of Natty is using Bluebird themes to start the desktop, then switches to a modified greybird theme that can not be changed easily. I can change the Window Manager theme, but not the gtk theme in Appearance. The icons and theme are locked.
[17:39] <charlie-tca> ochosi, mr_pouit : this theme lock is in both the fresh install and my Natty installation. the only thing that can be changed in Appearance is the font used.
[17:45] <charlie-tca> ochosi, mr_pouit : screenshot at http://imagebin.org/133250
[17:50] <charlie-tca> oh, yeah, and this is with my Appearance theme set to Clearlooks and icons set to Tango
[17:58] <charlie-tca> I think I tried all the themes trying to find one that will change anything.
[17:58] <charlie-tca> I was set up with greybird yesterday, when I started the system today, this is what I got
[18:24] <ochosi> charlie-tca: looks like a clean theme-break. supposedly something with the engines is not working
[18:26] <charlie-tca> Thanks