[01:12] <gnewb> I could find no fix or resolution to the Marvel PCI card, getting old I guess.
[01:27] <linuxman410> does lubuntu run good on asus eeepc 701
[01:32] <gnewb> Hello linuxman410. this channel is not near as full as the main one. but I put it on my Brothers Asus and it screems.
[01:32] <linuxman410> is his a 701
[01:32] <gnewb> linuxman410: Yes it is.
[01:33] <linuxman410> only 512 ram
[01:34] <gnewb> linuxman410: It outperformed !#
[01:34] <linuxman410> cool
[01:35] <gnewb> I had to do a few twaeks, to lighten it a bit more, took all of 15 minutes.
[01:35] <gnewb> *tweaks
[01:38] <gnewb> linuxman410: I am running Lubuntu on a 256 Desktop with an older Celeron, no tweaks or anything, and no sluggish at all.
[02:04] <rtdos> 2 questions: what happened to xdm and is there a desktop similar to the one on MacOS?
[04:30] <kristian-aalborg> hi all - I guess I could delete ubiquity?
[04:34] <kristian-aalborg> and the ndiswrapper stuff....?
[12:27] <marwy> is there an easy way to remap some keys in lubuntu? i need to change the apps key to control
[12:28] <jettero> just edit the rc file in .config/openbox/
[12:28] <jettero> it's very straightforward
[12:32] <marwy> but i don't want to change keybindings, i want to remap apps key to control
[13:07] <head_victim>  http://blip.tv/file/get/Llelectronics-LubuntuAD901.mp4
[13:44] <Ormie> Hello
[14:05] <Timo_> head_victim: nice vid
[14:07] <head_victim> One of the people on the list made it for me to use.
[14:08] <Timo_> ye I saw
[14:13] <head_victim> Oh and my Thursday 20/01 just started so that means it's Lubuntu Documentation Day!
[14:30] <head_victim> First documentation update - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/KeepLubuntuUptoDate
[14:35] <ochosi> hi everyone
[14:35] <head_victim> Gday ochosi
[14:35] <ochosi> i just wanted to pop in and ask whether the lubuntu artwork guy is around
[14:36] <ochosi> or the person working on "ozone"
[14:36] <head_victim> Ah I think there are a few I'm not sure of their nicks though
[14:36] <ochosi> k
[14:36] <ochosi> are you involved in lubuntu?
[14:37] <kosaidpo_> hello guys again ic cant export to wod format with abiword
[14:37] <kosaidpo_> anyone can help ?
[14:37] <head_victim> ochosi: I help with documentation and some support stuffs.
[14:38] <head_victim> kosaidpo_: can't say I've tried it before and unfortunately my Lubuntu machine has ram issues at the moment
[14:38] <kosaidpo_> guys is libreoffice way heavy fo lubuntu ??
[14:38] <ochosi> head_victim: i see. maybe i'll just post what i have to say in the wiki then (since it seems there is no lubuntu-dev channel)
[14:39] <head_victim> ochosi: the mailing list is a good place to catch everyone
[14:39] <ochosi> head_victim: is it closed or open? (meaning: do i have to register)
[14:39] <head_victim> ochosi: good question, I don't mod that list so hang on I'll have a look
[14:40] <ochosi> hx
[14:40] <ochosi> +t
[14:40] <ochosi> thx
[14:40] <head_victim> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
[14:40] <head_victim> That's the page that has the details. I states you ahve to be a team member to subscribe doesn't say anything about sending
[14:41] <ochosi> k, thanks
[15:39] <Ormie> Hello
[15:41] <Ormie> Is there anyone here?
[15:42] <mark76> Yeah
[15:42] <Ormie> Hi
[15:42] <mark76> Hello
[15:42] <Ormie> Why is it so quiet?
[15:42] <mark76> We're a Trappist community
[15:42] <mark76> Whoops
[15:42] <Ormie> Si
[15:43] <Ormie> I want lubuntu netbook edition
[15:43] <Ormie> on my EEE
[15:44] <mark76> Is that an original EEEEEEEEE?
[15:44] <Ormie> ASUS EEE PC
[15:44] <Ormie> :(
[15:44] <Ormie> Where can i get it from?
[15:44] <mark76> Have you tried the Lubuntu website?
[15:44] <Ormie> yes
[15:45] <mark76> NO joy?
[15:45] <Ormie> no netbook edition
[15:45] <Ormie> New now know how
[15:46] <mark76> Well I have the netbook edition. I suspect you have to install the full desktop edition and then choose the netbook version during the log in
[15:46] <Ormie> ok
[15:46] <Ormie> Your name is cool
[15:46] <Ormie> New now know how
[15:46] <bioterror> that's correct mark76
[15:46] <Ormie> :D
[15:46] <Ormie> Got to go now
[15:46] <bioterror> you can choose drop the dropbox in lxdm login screen
[15:46] <mark76> K
[15:47] <bioterror> root, once again :G
[16:30] <head_victim> phillw: looked at the other issues on the doc page there but I don't ahve a running pc with Lubuntu atm (ram died) so don't want to tinker too much because I can't confirm stuff for now.
[16:31] <head_victim> I'll be back in a few hours after some sleep so if other stuff gets added I'll look at it then.l
[16:50] <mark76> I'm attempting to steam new potatoes, broccoli florets, French beans and trout fillet
[16:50] <mark76> Whoops. Wrong one
[17:00] <dan____> hello. I'm interested in trying lubuntu on a ppc mac mini.I couldn't find an ISO for this hardware.  I already have ubuntu 10.04 on it but would like something lighter. Do I have to start from square 1?
[17:00] <bioterror> yes
[17:01] <bioterror> grab ubuntu mini for ppc and install lubuntu-desktop
[17:01] <bioterror> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/maverick/release/
[17:02] <bioterror> or
[17:02] <bioterror> you can install lubuntu-desktop (if there's one for the PPC ;)
[17:02] <bioterror> and then make pure lxde
[17:02] <bioterror> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde
[17:02] <dan____> hey, thanks.
[17:03] <bioterror> dan, check first
[17:03] <bioterror> apt-cache show lubuntu-desktop
[17:03] <bioterror> if you repositories have that meta package
[17:03] <bioterror> your
[17:03] <bioterror> otherwise it's going to be a pain in the ass
[17:03] <dan____> ok
[17:04] <dan____> I'd do it this minute, except it's tied up currently with a job
[17:04] <bioterror> :)
[17:05] <bioterror> I'm a little sceptic about this
[17:05] <dan____> why skeptical?
[17:08] <bioterror> maverick (metapackages): Lubuntu Desktop environment [multiverse]
[17:08] <bioterror> 0.18: amd64 i386
[17:08] <bioterror> well, packages search doesnt give much info for ubuntu-desktop neither
[17:09] <bioterror> and that should exist
[17:13] <dan____> @bioterror: so I think my first step should be downloading the latest ISO and seeing whether lubuntu is a desktop option.
[17:13] <meetingology> dan____: Error: "bioterror:" is not a valid command.
[17:13] <bioterror> well
[17:13] <bioterror> if you're running ubuntu atm.
[17:13] <bioterror> you can try to search from the repos first
[17:14] <bioterror> but lubuntu developers are using i686 (i585 too ;) and AMD64
[17:15] <dan____> thanks for your imput.
[17:15] <bioterror> can you confirm that
[17:15] <bioterror> I would like to know
[17:16] <bioterror> dan, but you can try http://www.morphos-team.net/downloads.html MorphOS ;)
[17:18] <dan____> yes, I will try. Sorry, not doing a good job of multitasking
[17:18] <bioterror> not a problem
[17:23] <dan____> bio, are you around often? I'm downloading morphos now. Gonna bill some hours but can get back with you on progress if you'd like.
[17:23] <bioterror> did you find that lubuntu-desktop package
[17:23] <bioterror> well
[17:23] <bioterror> MorphOS is operating system of it's own
[17:24] <dan____> right
[17:24] <bioterror> but can you find a lubuntu-desktop package from your ubuntu
[17:24] <bioterror> and I'm here often
[17:24] <dan____> ok. I'm gonna have to jet. will check back
[17:24] <dan____> thanks again.
[17:25] <bioterror> you never said
[17:25] <bioterror> is there a lubuntu-desktop package in your PowerPC repositories
[17:26] <dan____> right. the machine is tied up currently. can't check this minute
[17:26] <dan____> sorry.
[18:34] <kosaidpo_> hello guys
[18:34] <kosaidpo_> anyone know any tool to convert fom abw to doc ?
[19:01] <bioterror> why my lubuntu installation is installing kde stuff
[19:02] <mark76> No idea
[19:02] <bioterror> what they have added to natty
[19:02] <mark76> What kind of KDE stuff?
[19:03] <bioterror> I saw oxygen and plasma
[19:03] <mark76> That is strange
[19:06] <bioterror> Setting up kdelibs-bin (4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1) ...
[19:06] <bioterror> Setting up oxygen-icon-theme (4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1) ...
[19:07] <mark76> Hmm
[19:07] <mark76> Maybe the Lubuntu developers/packagers know
[19:08] <bioterror> Setting up kdelibs5-data (4:4.5.95-0ubuntu1) ...
[19:08] <bioterror> Setting up kubuntu-debug-installer (11.04ubuntu1) ...
[19:08] <mark76> Are you sure you're not installing Kubuntu?
[19:09] <bioterror> I am
[19:09] <bioterror> I did dist-upgrade ;)
[19:09] <mark76> Hmm
[19:09] <bioterror> yeah, gilir shall explain something ;)
[19:10] <bioterror> well, let's reboot, this laptop has been on for 11d 9h ;)
[19:10] <mark76> Tethered on batteries?
[19:11] <mark76> Tethered or batteries?
[19:13] <bioterror> hmmm
[19:13] <bioterror> lxdm is broken :D
[19:13] <bioterror> blinks just texts and doesnt show lubuntu logo at all :D
[19:20] <mark76> Yay!
[19:30] <pip__> is there a reason why doing a dist upgrade chandes my keyboard layout from UK to US?
[19:30] <pip__> ^changes, even
[19:30] <pip__> 10.10 to 1.04
[19:30] <pip__> ^11.04 even
[19:30] <bioterror> changen mine too
[19:30] <bioterror> changed
[19:30]  * pip__ learns to type
[19:30] <bioterror> I made a xorg.conf
[19:31] <pip__> bioterror: that sounds scary
[19:31] <mark76> Sounds like upgrading to Natty isn't a good idea right now
[19:31] <bioterror> :D
[19:32] <bioterror> it's an adventure
[19:32] <pip__> yeah, I shudda left well alone
[19:32] <pip__> everything was fine, then I had to prod stuff
[19:33] <bioterror> not a big thing to run Xorg -configure and add few lines :)
[19:34] <pip__> when you put it like that it doesn't sound so scary
[19:34] <bioterror> yeah
[19:34] <bioterror> well
[19:34] <pip__> I have no idea what that means though :)
[19:35] <bioterror> there's another way too
[19:35] <bioterror> put "setxkbmap uk" to autostart
[19:35] <pip__> I'm open to anything
[19:35] <pip__> aha
[19:36] <pip__> which do you think is the mor elegant solution?
[19:36] <pip__> ^more
[19:37] <pip__> bearing in mind, you are dealing with a newb
[19:37] <bioterror> why a newb is running alpha?-)
[19:37] <pip__> haha, it's an adventure
[19:39] <pip__> As an average or less than average user I thought if I found broken stuff it may help
[19:57] <pip__> oops, borked lubuntu.  I'll try again tomorrow
[20:01] <bioterror> hi gilir, seems like new theme is using some kde iconsets?
[20:02] <gilir> hi bioterror, I don't think so, where do you see it ?
[20:03] <bioterror> I made upgrade on natty and this downloaded some kde stuff
[20:04] <bioterror> and I am sure I have not installed anything related to KDE
[20:05] <gilir> could you try to remove them and see what is removed ? Maybe it's relative to unity-2d which install some QT depends
[20:05] <bioterror> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[20:06] <bioterror>   apturl-kde kdebase-runtime kdepim-runtime kdesudo kubuntu-debug-installer
[20:06] <bioterror>   oxygen-icon-theme python-kde4 qapt-batch software-properties-kde
[20:06] <bioterror> I put oxygen-icon-theme for removal
[20:07] <bioterror> ahahahaha
[20:08] <gilir> hum, oxygen-icon-theme should not be pull by lubuntu
[20:08] <bioterror> thjis is
[20:08] <bioterror> gotta pastebin
[20:08] <bioterror> http://paste.ubuntu.com/555945/
[20:08] <bioterror> :D
[20:09] <gilir> bioterror, you have a lot of useless stuff ;)
[20:09] <bioterror> I would like to know where did all those come from
[20:09] <bioterror> :D
[20:10] <bioterror> removing theme
[20:10] <bioterror> them
[20:15] <bioterror> and oh gilir
[20:15] <bioterror> if I do "dist-upgrade", I get those
[20:15] <bioterror> if I do just upgrade, nothing
[20:23] <TylerR> So how is everyone today in the world of Lubuntu?
[20:23] <Timo_> TylerR: #lubuntu-offtopic for offtopic chatting! :D
[20:23] <Timo_> and I'm fine :)
[20:23] <dan_> bioterror, I have results to report on ppc mac
[20:24] <bioterror> dan_, did you have lubuntu-desktop?-)
[20:24] <dan_> It said that chromium couldn't be installed.
[20:24] <dan_> however, I was able to add core
[20:25] <dan_> lubuntu-core, etc
[20:25] <bioterror> nice
[20:25] <dan_> so had some success
[20:25] <bioterror> lubuntu-artwork?
[20:25] <dan_> Not sure why chromium couldn't be installed.
[20:25] <dan_> any ideas
[20:27] <dan_> I just did something stupid and I don't know how to get out of it.
[20:28] <dan_> I logged on using the xbox desktop I think? get nothing but a blank screen
[20:28] <dan_> by the way, yes to artwork.
[20:29] <bioterror> xbox?
[20:29] <bioterror> you mean Openbox?
[20:30] <dan_> yes, openbox
[20:30] <dan_> sorry
[20:31] <dan_> can I reset my default desktop from the command line?
[20:31] <dan_> then reboot?
[20:31] <bioterror> can you explain a little more
[20:33] <dan_> looks like I have auto login set to yes.  I wanted to see what openbox, so set it as my environment (I thought temporarily).
[20:34] <dan_> after logging in, got nothing, so went to another terminal and rebooted
[20:34] <dan_> of course, it's now booting directly into openbox and I don't have the slightest clue how to get out of this environment
[20:35] <dan_> I'm gonna owe you a beer by the end of the day. :-)
[20:37] <bioterror> :D
[20:37] <bioterror> well
[20:37] <bioterror> you can run lxpanel on top of the Openbox
[20:37] <bioterror> seems like you're still missing lots of lubuntu settings
[20:40] <dan_> I agree.... missing a lot. I don't even have any chrome frames.... literally a blank screen with a mouse.
[20:40] <bioterror> you're missing Gtk2-themes and stuff like that
[20:41] <dan_> yup
[20:41] <bioterror> or decorations
[20:41] <bioterror> hard to say
[20:41] <dan_> so how can I get this to not auto login?
[20:42] <dan_> is there a command line answer?
[20:42] <szczur> dan_, try to install lxde-common first
[20:42] <szczur> and then reboot
[20:42] <szczur> and say if it changed anything
[20:42] <dan_> ok
[20:43] <szczur> hi bioterror
[20:43] <bioterror> hi sz
[20:43] <bioterror> nice to have some backups in here :D
[20:43] <szczur> :)
[20:44] <bioterror> I havent set-up lxde from scratch
[20:45] <dan_> done. still mouse only
[20:47] <szczur> does it show any error messages? anything?
[20:47] <dan_> no errors
[20:47] <bioterror> dan, do you have in .xinitrc "exec startlxde"
[20:49] <bioterror> found some documents saying it could be okay
[20:50] <dan_> I think I understood.  when I ran that command, it got back a message that "a window manager is already running on screen 0"
[20:51] <dan_> Look, I'm willing to pursue this in the interest of science, but I don't want this to be a time suck.
[20:51] <bioterror> hmm
[20:51] <dan_> I have nothing of importance on this machine yet
[20:51] <bioterror> can you say in terminal "sudo apt-get install lxde"
[20:52] <dan_> I can pull the cord at any time.
[20:53] <dan_> doing that now, bio
[20:54] <dan_> I assume I should reboot when finished, right?
[20:55] <bioterror> or logout and login
[20:56] <bioterror> if you installed alot of stuff
[20:57] <dan_> rebooted. same. mouse only.
[20:58] <dan_> Look, I don't think this is worth our collective time.
[20:58] <szczur> dan_, can you tell me the content of /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/desktop.conf
[20:58] <szczur> the window_manager line
[20:58] <szczur> just do cat /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/desktop.conf
[21:00] <bioterror> I think it's close to empty ;)
[21:00] <dan_> window_manager=openbox-lxde
[21:01] <szczur> and make sure that in /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf file in "session" line, you have /usr/bin/startlxde entry (and it is uncommented)
[21:01] <szczur> hmm, same for me
[21:01] <dan_> note, this is the only line under [session[
[21:01] <dan_> [session]
[21:02] <szczur> yeah, i know
[21:03] <szczur> check the /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf file. if it says /usr/bin/startlxde in session then i'm out of ideas
[21:04]  * szczur keeps finding himself on searching for filename autocompletion feature in IRC clients :P
[21:04] <bioterror> weechat can complete... ;)
[21:05] <dan_> all I have in the /etc/lxdm directory is a "default.conf" file
[21:05] <szczur> so check contents of this file
[21:07] <dan_> sz, not sure what I'm looking for in this file. it's another short one
[21:07] <szczur> there should be line looking like this > #session=/usr/bin/startlxde
[21:08] <szczur> uncomment it of course :)
[21:08] <dan_> the session line reads : "session=/usr/bin/startlubuntu"
[21:09] <szczur> change it to /usr/bin/startlxde (just testing something)
[21:09] <szczur> if it change anything in behaviour
[21:10] <szczur> i hope for it
[21:13] <szczur> bioterror, maybe i'll cast weechat someday :)
[21:13] <phil> Hello all. Just wondering if I'm the only one that has this kinda luck... 10.04... Awesome... 10.10...  A few pooey glitches every now and then....
[21:15] <dan_> sz, I think I'm gonna bail. Just not worth everyone's time.
[21:15] <dan_> thanks for the help bioterror
[21:16] <dan_> if you're ever in the MSP, I'll buy you that beer
[21:16] <dan_> later.
[21:16] <bioterror> haha
[21:17] <bioterror> we have lots of time ^__^
[21:17] <phil> <')))-<
[21:17] <bioterror> szczur, you should
[21:24] <bioterror> szczur, you can be my wingman anytime! ;D
[21:24] <szczur> ^^
[21:29] <dan_> I'm out.  thanks again szczur and bioterror. you rock!
[21:29] <bioterror> no problem
[21:29] <bioterror> dan_, if you get bored, play with morphos ;)
[21:29] <dan_> will do
[21:29] <bioterror> it should be FAAAST
[21:29] <bioterror> but remember, it's Amiga ;)
[21:29] <dan_> later
[23:22] <gnewb> Hello, got the Marvel card to work, but is pitifully poor, so I ordered a Star Tech/?
[23:22] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know?
[23:22] <MrChrisDruif> Anyways, I'm off....ttyl
[23:25] <gnewb> okee dokee
[23:29] <gnewb> Hello