| drew212 | micahg: what do we do with bug reports complaining about viruses, turn it into a question? | 03:25 |
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| drew212 | see bug 704725 | 03:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 704725 in firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) "virus in my outgoing emails (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704725 | 03:26 |
| micahg | drew212: yep | 03:27 |
| drew212 | micahg: i also tagged bug 701217 as regresion-updates as the user was using the version installed by default on his system (3.6.10? i believe) | 03:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 701217 in firefox (Ubuntu) "does not remember 'customer number' but says it has. (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701217 | 03:30 |
| drew212 | but i'm unaware how to proceed | 03:30 |
| micahg | drew212: ok | 03:31 |
| drew212 | i wasn't sure if marking it as a regression was correct, but i didn't think you were online (it connected me to #ubuntu rather than ubuntu-bugs first) | 03:31 |
| micahg | drew212: you could ask the user to downgrade to the release version and just test this one site | 03:32 |
| drew212 | can you downgrade without compiling from source? | 03:33 |
| micahg | drew212: the release pocket is always available | 03:33 |
| drew212 | micahg: how would one do that? using synaptic? | 03:34 |
| micahg | that could work | 03:34 |
| drew212 | micahg: there's another way? | 03:35 |
| micahg | any of the package managers | 03:35 |
| drew212 | micahg: i wouldn't know how to do that =P | 03:37 |
| drew212 | micahg: i'm not a poweruser yet =X | 03:37 |
| drew212 | micahg: i'm looking in synaptic right now but i cant find anything labeled 3.6.10 | 03:38 |
| drew212 | micahg: found it =) | 03:38 |
| drew212 | micahg: seems that force version isn't working for me though =X | 03:44 |
| drew212 | micahg: any ideas? | 03:47 |
| drew212 | how does a user install a non-default version of a package? I cannot get it to work | 04:02 |
| micahg | sudo apt-get install PKG=version | 04:09 |
| drew212 | do we still ask users to translate their bug reports into english for us? | 04:19 |
| micahg | drew212: convert to question or use google translate | 04:20 |
| micahg | drew212: there should be a canned response for the translations stuff now | 04:21 |
| drew212 | micahg: thanks, looks like you're the only one who's alive tonight =P | 04:22 |
| micahg | drew212: eh, that's relative | 04:22 |
| drew212 | micahg: does IcedTea have problems with youtube? | 04:31 |
| micahg | drew212: err, Youtube is Flash, IcedTea is Java | 04:32 |
| drew212 | micahg: blah... i must be past ballmer's peak =D | 04:33 |
| drew212 | micahg: how about gnash then? | 04:34 |
| micahg | drew212: maybe, natty or maverick version should work | 04:34 |
| drew212 | micahg: lucid... 0.8.7 | 04:34 |
| micahg | drew212: nope | 04:35 |
| * micahg might try to backport it | 04:35 | |
| drew212 | should i suggest installing adobe if he wants to view youtube until it gets backported? | 04:37 |
| micahg | drew212: yes, you can file a backport request as well if you like | 04:38 |
| drew212 | micahg: i wouldn't know how to do that =( | 04:40 |
| micahg | !backports | drew212 | 04:40 |
| ubot2 | drew212: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging | 04:40 |
| drew212 | micahg: i'm on that page already =P | 04:40 |
| micahg | drew212: er, I would've worded that youtube one a little differently | 04:59 |
| drew212 | micahg: lol how? | 05:26 |
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| * drew212 frowns | 13:54 | |
| drew212 | I did my 5-a-day yesterday and it doesn't show up on the statistics =( | 13:54 |
| yofel | drew212: it counts from 0:00 UTC until 0:00 UTC - you need to map that to your local time to define "yesterday" | 13:56 |
| yofel | drew212: what's your name on launchpad? | 13:57 |
| yofel | mstngdrew212? | 13:58 |
| yofel | drew212: your last contribution was Mon Jan 17 21:51:35 UTC 2011 - and the next Wed Jan 19 03:24:11 UTC 2011 - so nothing for the 18th - but you already have the necessary count for today | 14:01 |
| kamusin | launchpad has not updated his records (karma) since 3 days (by the way) | 14:03 |
| yofel | well, that happened to me too a few times, but 5-a-day uses the mails, so it won't be affected by that | 14:04 |
| drew212 | yofel: shoot, so i need to complete them 6 hours before midnight =P | 14:05 |
| drew212 | if its based off of UTC | 14:05 |
| drew212 | i completed them after 9 =P | 14:06 |
| drew212 | i need to get them done from 6pm to 6pm | 14:06 |
| drew212 | yofel: oh well =P, the statistics aren't what's important, the participation/experience is | 14:07 |
| yofel | if you're curious, here's the raw data - it's in 'unixtime,bug#' form http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/five-a-day/people/ | 14:07 |
| yofel | lags behind a few hours though | 14:07 |
| trinikrono | good morning triage ninjas o/ | 14:11 |
| yofel | hi trinikrono | 14:12 |
| trinikrono | :D | 14:12 |
| trinikrono | yofel: did you know about packaging bugs? | 14:13 |
| trinikrono | * do | 14:13 |
| yofel | not too much | 14:13 |
| trinikrono | hey does anyone use smplayer i want to triage a bug | 15:14 |
| trinikrono | please set importance on bug 606607 to low | 15:29 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 606607 in smplayer (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "SMPlayer can't correct detect version of installed mplayer (affects: 5) (heat: 28)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606607 | 15:29 |
| micahg | trinikrono: that makes the package unusable | 15:54 |
| trinikrono | micahg: lol it still works | 15:54 |
| trinikrono | look at the screenshot | 15:55 |
| trinikrono | it still plays the files | 15:55 |
| micahg | trinikrono: ah, ok, from the text it sounded worse | 15:55 |
| trinikrono | you can try it out smplayer is nicee | 15:55 |
| trinikrono | can i harass you about the needs-packing yet? | 15:56 |
| micahg | trinikrono: done | 15:59 |
| PaoloRotolo | Hi all | 18:15 |
| trinikrono | o/ | 18:18 |
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| indus | hi | 19:09 |
| indus | is one daniel chen here | 19:09 |
| indus | or anyone really | 19:09 |
| trinikrono1 | o/ | 19:09 |
| indus | #577727 | 19:10 |
| indus | hmm nothing seems to happen | 19:10 |
| charlie-tca | bug 577727 | 19:11 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 577727 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 10.04 sound lag with enemy territory quake wars (affects: 23) (heat: 132)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/577727 | 19:11 |
| indus | how do i get some dev to look at this | 19:11 |
| charlie-tca | reading it, I see three or four have looked at it and even given some workarounds | 19:12 |
| charlie-tca | I expect it is a matter of priority now. the developers are trying to get the development version to work, which is highter priority than fixing something with workarounds | 19:13 |
| charlie-tca | heh, caught in the netspit... | 19:15 |
| JackyAlcine | indus: Well, the issue isn't rooted in the game, it's PulseAudio's fault. It interacts like a web connection, so that annoying noise is result of that and its resources being taken up. | 19:20 |
| indus | JackyAlcine, noise? there is delay | 19:23 |
| indus | JackyAlcine, so i thought, since its a game from id, the only people who make top budget games for linux too some devs might look at the bug | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | indus: I expect it is a matter of priority now. the developers are trying to get the development version to work, which is highter priority than fixing something with workarounds | 19:24 |
| JackyAlcine | ^^ | 19:24 |
| indus | how can i get a dev's attention to this | 19:24 |
| indus | any tips | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | ask id | 19:24 |
| indus | charlie-tca, they didnt break it, was working fine before | 19:25 |
| charlie-tca | you already have several devs looking at it. Unfortunately, they may not be able to dedicate their time to you | 19:25 |
| indus | charlie-tca, several devs? how can you say | 19:25 |
| indus | its unassigned bug | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | Because I looked at the report and them | 19:26 |
| indus | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/577727 | 19:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 577727 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 10.04 sound lag with enemy territory quake wars (affects: 23) (heat: 128)" [Medium,Triaged] | 19:26 |
| indus | this one? | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | I read their comments throughout the report. It has not been ignored | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 19:26 |
| indus | ok | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | you put it in here before the netsplit | 19:26 |
| indus | which one is a dev there | 19:27 |
| charlie-tca | Sometimes, you just have to have some patience, I guess | 19:29 |
| indus | hm | 19:29 |
| indus | i had a problem like this , after wait for 1 year i came in this room and was redirected to ubuntu-kernel and some nice fella there solved my problem :) | 19:30 |
| indus | a kernel dev | 19:30 |
| indus | so i hoped i can get some help this time too | 19:30 |
| trinikrono1 | charlie-tca: can you set 704745 to triaged | 19:30 |
| trinikrono1 | its a packaging one :D | 19:31 |
| trinikrono1 | bug 704745 | 19:31 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 704745 in debian (and 1 other project) "[needs packaging] ftimes -- a system baselining and evidence collection tool (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704745 | 19:31 |
| indus | basically this affects all of id games now , doom3, quake 4 enemy territory | 19:31 |
| trinikrono1 | it has everything | 19:31 |
| charlie-tca | Well, here is the sound people - #ubuntu-audio-help | 19:31 |
| charlie-tca | trinikrono1: I do not do packaging bugs. I do not feel knowledgeable about it | 19:32 |
| indus | also, one more point, this affects 32 bit systems too so maybe you can change bug report to reflect it | 19:32 |
| trinikrono1 | can you look at it at least charlie-tca | 19:32 |
| indus | i tried with both 32 and 64 bit | 19:32 |
| trinikrono1 | it has everything the wiki says | 19:32 |
| charlie-tca | trinikrono1: If I don't know what I am looking for, it just wastes time | 19:33 |
| indus | charlie-tca, thanks for the audio address , i try there too | 19:34 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 19:34 |
| indus | charlie-tca, maybe the ia 32 libs package 'affects' can be changed? | 19:35 |
| trinikrono1 | :D does that mean only micahg is going to triage needs packaging bugs? | 19:35 |
| charlie-tca | Not without knowing what to change it to | 19:35 |
| indus | i dont know how you folks decide it so i leave that to you | 19:35 |
| charlie-tca | trinikrono1: it means I do not do them, that's all | 19:35 |
| charlie-tca | there are others in bugcontrol who might, but I do not do packaging bugs | 19:35 |
| indus | there is 4 ppl in thta room | 19:37 |
| indus | :D | 19:37 |
| indus | charlie-tca, so what you sugest , i wait for the bug to be fixed? | 19:38 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 19:39 |
| charlie-tca | Did you ask in that room? | 19:39 |
| charlie-tca | those 4 people might be the most knowledgeable people anywhere when it comes to audio | 19:39 |
| indus_ | hi | 19:42 |
| indus_ | some problem | 19:44 |
| indus_ | charlie-tca, | 19:44 |
| indus_ | ya i was saying, that channel had only 4 people | 19:44 |
| Pici | <charlie-tca> Did you ask in that room? / <charlie-tca> those 4 people might be the most knowledgeable people anywhere when it comes to audio | 19:45 |
| indus_ | ok | 19:46 |
| indus_ | iam there | 19:46 |
| indus_ | too | 19:46 |
| indus_ | Pici, i think i stated about the 4 people | 19:46 |
| Pici | indus_: Yes, and that is what charlie-tca said after you said that. | 19:47 |
| hggdh | trinikrono1: if you want to, you can propose a package for it; it will probably be needed in Debian first | 19:47 |
| indus_ | ok | 19:47 |
| trinikrono1 | hggdh: i put a link to the debian bug tracker already | 19:47 |
| indus_ | iam not sure why that bug says affects ia 32 libs | 19:48 |
| trinikrono1 | thats why i asked for it too be triaged | 19:48 |
| trinikrono1 | it is a rfp | 19:49 |
| micahg | hggdh: I added stuff to the wiki a while back for needs packaging bug that if all the information is there, it can go from New to Triaged | 19:50 |
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| hggdh | micahg: OK, will do it. | 19:52 |
| hggdh | micahg: thanks | 19:53 |
| hggdh | trinikrono: thank you also ;-) | 19:53 |
| indus_ | if anyone could suggest how to troubleshoot that bug i will be glad | 19:53 |
| trinikrono | you guys are awesome | 19:53 |
| indus_ | till someone fixes it | 19:53 |
| indus_ | like temporary | 19:54 |
| charlie-tca | did you try all the workarounds suggested in it? | 19:56 |
| indus_ | of course , those always work but they all are about removing pulseaudio | 19:57 |
| indus_ | which i dont believe in doing at all, then no point in pulseaudio | 19:58 |
| indus_ | pulseaudio is great , we can listen to multiple audio streams etc | 19:59 |
| indus_ | but something happend after 10.04 | 19:59 |
| indus_ | so i look for ways to fix pulseaudio config but didnt find any | 20:00 |
| indus_ | all users said some fix which included removing pulseaudio | 20:00 |
| indus_ | charlie-tca, anyway thanks for looking at least, ill see for other answers | 20:01 |
| indus_ | bye | 20:01 |
| rusivi | quick question to the chat (may need to redirect to ubuntu-doc) but regarding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingOpenOffice there are no simple instructions on what debug symbols & procedures should be used. As per Novell ( http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bugreport_OOo#How_to_get_strace_log ) strace -o /tmp/strace.log -f -tt -s 512 <program> is the way to go. May want to add to the wiki. :) | 20:01 |
| trinikrono | o.o | 20:02 |
| rusivi | I know everything is moving to libre but in the meantime... | 20:02 |
| trinikrono | can someone set importance to wishlist of bug 697605 | 20:02 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 697605 in haproxy (Ubuntu) "HAProxy 1.3.23 version bump (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/697605 | 20:02 |
| yofel | the apport retracer is responsible for the debugging symbols - or use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash if you need to retrace it yourself | 20:03 |
| rusivi | yofel: I've had ooo calc crash a thousand times in one day, hasn't self-apported itself once. | 20:04 |
| micahg | anyone have time to test something on Natty? | 20:04 |
| yofel | rusivi: you do have apport enabled? (it shouldn't be enabled anywhere currently) | 20:04 |
| yofel | by default | 20:04 |
| trinikrono | micahg: :D if you triage my bug | 20:04 |
| yofel | micahg: sure, but I'm on KDE | 20:04 |
| rusivi | yofel: I do not have apport enabled. How do I do that? | 20:04 |
| trinikrono | i mean wishlist | 20:04 |
| micahg | trinikrono: bug #? | 20:04 |
| yofel | rusivi: sudo service apport start force_start=1 | 20:04 |
| trinikrono | 697605 | 20:05 |
| yofel | rusivi: or set it in /etc/default/apport | 20:05 |
| charlie-tca | micahg I am on xubuntu | 20:05 |
| micahg | bug 697605 | 20:05 |
| trinikrono | bug 697605 | 20:05 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 697605 in haproxy (Ubuntu) "HAProxy 1.3.23 version bump (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/697605 | 20:05 |
| micahg | ok, my bug is bug 705039 | 20:05 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 705039 in blam (Ubuntu) "blam won't start (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705039 | 20:05 |
| micahg | new package here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~micahg/ | 20:05 |
| micahg | I'm just having some issues getting stuff to work in a chroot ATM | 20:05 |
| rusivi | yofel: Now that I performed sudo service apport start force_start=1 will it auto-prompt me to create a bug the next time calc dies (which will be momentarily)? | 20:05 |
| yofel | rusivi: yes, if you want apport to stay enabled after a reboot edit /etc/default/apport though | 20:06 |
| rusivi | yofel: Got it. Thank you very much. | 20:06 |
| yofel | micahg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/555944/ | 20:07 |
| micahg | yofel: with my package? | 20:07 |
| yofel | ah oops, sec | 20:08 |
| yofel | micahg: still crashes http://paste.ubuntu.com/555947/ | 20:09 |
| micahg | ugh :( | 20:09 |
| trinikrono | wow | 20:10 |
| trinikrono | i like blam | 20:10 |
| trinikrono | i am on jaunty though | 20:10 |
| trinikrono | so its fine | 20:10 |
| Pici | You do know that jaunty reached its End of Life, right? | 20:11 |
| micahg | yofel: oh well :(, I guess I can dig a little more | 20:11 |
| micahg | yofel: thanks for testing | 20:11 |
| seb128 | yofel, micahg: the crash seems to be due to the webkit naming update | 20:11 |
| seb128 | it probably needs to be rebuilt using the new soname | 20:12 |
| trinikrono | yes Pici | 20:12 |
| seb128 | DllNotFoundException: libwebkit-1.0.so.2 | 20:12 |
| Pici | trinikrono: okay, just making sure :) | 20:12 |
| trinikrono | i now got the pc working yesterday | 20:12 |
| micahg | seb128: yeah, but gecko-sharp was rebuilt | 20:12 |
| seb128 | it's libwebkitgtk | 20:12 |
| trinikrono | it was dead 4 months now | 20:12 |
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| micahg | trinikrono: ok, replied to your bug | 20:14 |
| seb128 | micahg, it might need source changes | 20:15 |
| seb128 | not only a rebuild then | 20:15 |
| micahg | seb128: ok, I'm wondering if it's something in gecko-sharp or blam, I guess I'll unassign myself and take a look if I have time, thanks | 20:15 |
| seb128 | debian/patches/fix_dllmap.dpatch:+ <dllmap dll="webkit-1.0" target="libwebkit-1.0@LIB_PREFIX@.2@LIB_SUFFIX@"/> | 20:16 |
| seb128 | micahg, guess you need to update that one in the source | 20:17 |
| micahg | seb128: ok, I"ll try that, thanks | 20:17 |
| seb128 | YW | 20:17 |
| seb128 | yw | 20:17 |
| micahg | seb128: err, is that in gecko-sharp? | 20:18 |
| seb128 | no webkit- | 20:18 |
| seb128 | which is the source for libwebkit1.1-cil | 20:18 |
| seb128 | which blam is using it seems | 20:19 |
| micahg | oops, that's what I meant :) | 20:19 |
| micahg | seb128: do you guys have a bzr branch for it? | 20:20 |
| seb128 | micahg, dunno ask the cil guys, it's not in the desktop set | 20:21 |
| micahg | seb128: ah, ok, thanks | 20:21 |
| seb128 | if it's not in the control guess not | 20:21 |
| micahg | seb128: there's a Debian one | 20:21 |
| micahg | yofel: I've got another update on my p.u.c page if you have time to check | 20:39 |
| yofel | wrong so version, here I have: | 20:40 |
| yofel | 3029184 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 2011-01-19 17:59 /usr/lib/libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.0 -> libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.0.5.2 | 20:40 |
| yofel | it looks for System.DllNotFoundException: libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.2 | 20:41 |
| micahg | yofel: did you try the webkit-cil package? | 20:41 |
| yofel | that is with the new package | 20:42 |
| yofel | as you see it looks for libwebkitgtk now, but wrong so version | 20:42 |
| micahg | ah, ok | 20:42 |
| VarcMB | Hello, anyone here? | 23:44 |
| yofel | sure, if those that are here can help depends on your problem | 23:45 |
| VarcMB | I don't have a problem, i have a question | 23:45 |
| VarcMB | I have 16 years old i am from Venezuela, speak eglish, spanish and a bit of portugues and wanna help Ubuntu | 23:46 |
| VarcMB | I like design Software but i don't know a lot how to help Ubuntu. I wanna start in the BugSquad | 23:46 |
| VarcMB | But i don't know how, can you say me how? | 23:47 |
| yofel | then welcome! You can find the general introduction to bugs in ubuntu here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs and you can learn how to join us on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/GettingInvolved - it also tells you how you can request a mentor | 23:48 |
| yofel | until then feel free to ask your questions here and if there is nobody online feel free to send a mail to the mailing list | 23:49 |
| * hggdh hears Portuguese? | 23:49 | |
| VarcMB | Thanks a lot, get me a moment please | 23:50 |
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