[03:25] micahg: what do we do with bug reports complaining about viruses, turn it into a question? [03:26] see bug 704725 [03:26] Launchpad bug 704725 in firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) "virus in my outgoing emails (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704725 [03:27] drew212: yep [03:30] micahg: i also tagged bug 701217 as regresion-updates as the user was using the version installed by default on his system (3.6.10? i believe) [03:30] Launchpad bug 701217 in firefox (Ubuntu) "does not remember 'customer number' but says it has. (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701217 [03:30] but i'm unaware how to proceed [03:31] drew212: ok [03:31] i wasn't sure if marking it as a regression was correct, but i didn't think you were online (it connected me to #ubuntu rather than ubuntu-bugs first) [03:32] drew212: you could ask the user to downgrade to the release version and just test this one site [03:33] can you downgrade without compiling from source? [03:33] drew212: the release pocket is always available [03:34] micahg: how would one do that? using synaptic? [03:34] that could work [03:35] micahg: there's another way? [03:35] any of the package managers [03:37] micahg: i wouldn't know how to do that =P [03:37] micahg: i'm not a poweruser yet =X [03:38] micahg: i'm looking in synaptic right now but i cant find anything labeled 3.6.10 [03:38] micahg: found it =) [03:44] micahg: seems that force version isn't working for me though =X [03:47] micahg: any ideas? [04:02] how does a user install a non-default version of a package? I cannot get it to work [04:09] sudo apt-get install PKG=version [04:19] do we still ask users to translate their bug reports into english for us? [04:20] drew212: convert to question or use google translate [04:21] drew212: there should be a canned response for the translations stuff now [04:22] micahg: thanks, looks like you're the only one who's alive tonight =P [04:22] drew212: eh, that's relative [04:31] micahg: does IcedTea have problems with youtube? [04:32] drew212: err, Youtube is Flash, IcedTea is Java [04:33] micahg: blah... i must be past ballmer's peak =D [04:34] micahg: how about gnash then? [04:34] drew212: maybe, natty or maverick version should work [04:34] micahg: lucid... 0.8.7 [04:35] drew212: nope [04:35] * micahg might try to backport it [04:37] should i suggest installing adobe if he wants to view youtube until it gets backported? [04:38] drew212: yes, you can file a backport request as well if you like [04:40] micahg: i wouldn't know how to do that =( [04:40] !backports | drew212 [04:40] drew212: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [04:40] micahg: i'm on that page already =P [04:59] drew212: er, I would've worded that youtube one a little differently [05:26] micahg: lol how? === ara is now known as Guest34458 === Guest34458 is now known as ara === TeTeT_ is now known as TeTeT [13:54] * drew212 frowns [13:54] I did my 5-a-day yesterday and it doesn't show up on the statistics =( [13:56] drew212: it counts from 0:00 UTC until 0:00 UTC - you need to map that to your local time to define "yesterday" [13:57] drew212: what's your name on launchpad? [13:58] mstngdrew212? [14:01] drew212: your last contribution was Mon Jan 17 21:51:35 UTC 2011 - and the next Wed Jan 19 03:24:11 UTC 2011 - so nothing for the 18th - but you already have the necessary count for today [14:03] launchpad has not updated his records (karma) since 3 days (by the way) [14:04] well, that happened to me too a few times, but 5-a-day uses the mails, so it won't be affected by that [14:05] yofel: shoot, so i need to complete them 6 hours before midnight =P [14:05] if its based off of UTC [14:06] i completed them after 9 =P [14:06] i need to get them done from 6pm to 6pm [14:07] yofel: oh well =P, the statistics aren't what's important, the participation/experience is [14:07] if you're curious, here's the raw data - it's in 'unixtime,bug#' form http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/five-a-day/people/ [14:07] lags behind a few hours though [14:11] good morning triage ninjas o/ [14:12] hi trinikrono [14:12] :D [14:13] yofel: did you know about packaging bugs? [14:13] * do [14:13] not too much [15:14] hey does anyone use smplayer i want to triage a bug [15:29] please set importance on bug 606607 to low [15:29] Launchpad bug 606607 in smplayer (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "SMPlayer can't correct detect version of installed mplayer (affects: 5) (heat: 28)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606607 [15:54] trinikrono: that makes the package unusable [15:54] micahg: lol it still works [15:55] look at the screenshot [15:55] it still plays the files [15:55] trinikrono: ah, ok, from the text it sounded worse [15:55] you can try it out smplayer is nicee [15:56] can i harass you about the needs-packing yet? [15:59] trinikrono: done [18:15] Hi all [18:18] o/ === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs [19:09] hi [19:09] is one daniel chen here [19:09] or anyone really [19:09] o/ [19:10] #577727 [19:10] hmm nothing seems to happen [19:11] bug 577727 [19:11] Launchpad bug 577727 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 10.04 sound lag with enemy territory quake wars (affects: 23) (heat: 132)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/577727 [19:11] how do i get some dev to look at this [19:12] reading it, I see three or four have looked at it and even given some workarounds [19:13] I expect it is a matter of priority now. the developers are trying to get the development version to work, which is highter priority than fixing something with workarounds [19:15] heh, caught in the netspit... [19:20] indus: Well, the issue isn't rooted in the game, it's PulseAudio's fault. It interacts like a web connection, so that annoying noise is result of that and its resources being taken up. [19:23] JackyAlcine, noise? there is delay [19:24] JackyAlcine, so i thought, since its a game from id, the only people who make top budget games for linux too some devs might look at the bug [19:24] indus: I expect it is a matter of priority now. the developers are trying to get the development version to work, which is highter priority than fixing something with workarounds [19:24] ^^ [19:24] how can i get a dev's attention to this [19:24] any tips [19:24] ask id [19:25] charlie-tca, they didnt break it, was working fine before [19:25] you already have several devs looking at it. Unfortunately, they may not be able to dedicate their time to you [19:25] charlie-tca, several devs? how can you say [19:26] its unassigned bug [19:26] Because I looked at the report and them [19:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/577727 [19:26] Launchpad bug 577727 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 10.04 sound lag with enemy territory quake wars (affects: 23) (heat: 128)" [Medium,Triaged] [19:26] this one? [19:26] I read their comments throughout the report. It has not been ignored [19:26] yes [19:26] ok [19:26] you put it in here before the netsplit [19:27] which one is a dev there [19:29] Sometimes, you just have to have some patience, I guess [19:29] hm [19:30] i had a problem like this , after wait for 1 year i came in this room and was redirected to ubuntu-kernel and some nice fella there solved my problem :) [19:30] a kernel dev [19:30] so i hoped i can get some help this time too [19:30] charlie-tca: can you set 704745 to triaged [19:31] its a packaging one :D [19:31] bug 704745 [19:31] Launchpad bug 704745 in debian (and 1 other project) "[needs packaging] ftimes -- a system baselining and evidence collection tool (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704745 [19:31] basically this affects all of id games now , doom3, quake 4 enemy territory [19:31] it has everything [19:31] Well, here is the sound people - #ubuntu-audio-help [19:32] trinikrono1: I do not do packaging bugs. I do not feel knowledgeable about it [19:32] also, one more point, this affects 32 bit systems too so maybe you can change bug report to reflect it [19:32] can you look at it at least charlie-tca [19:32] i tried with both 32 and 64 bit [19:32] it has everything the wiki says [19:33] trinikrono1: If I don't know what I am looking for, it just wastes time [19:34] charlie-tca, thanks for the audio address , i try there too [19:34] You are welcome [19:35] charlie-tca, maybe the ia 32 libs package 'affects' can be changed? [19:35] :D does that mean only micahg is going to triage needs packaging bugs? [19:35] Not without knowing what to change it to [19:35] i dont know how you folks decide it so i leave that to you [19:35] trinikrono1: it means I do not do them, that's all [19:35] there are others in bugcontrol who might, but I do not do packaging bugs [19:37] there is 4 ppl in thta room [19:37] :D [19:38] charlie-tca, so what you sugest , i wait for the bug to be fixed? [19:39] yes [19:39] Did you ask in that room? [19:39] those 4 people might be the most knowledgeable people anywhere when it comes to audio [19:42] hi [19:44] some problem [19:44] charlie-tca, [19:44] ya i was saying, that channel had only 4 people [19:45] Did you ask in that room? / those 4 people might be the most knowledgeable people anywhere when it comes to audio [19:46] ok [19:46] iam there [19:46] too [19:46] Pici, i think i stated about the 4 people [19:47] indus_: Yes, and that is what charlie-tca said after you said that. [19:47] trinikrono1: if you want to, you can propose a package for it; it will probably be needed in Debian first [19:47] ok [19:47] hggdh: i put a link to the debian bug tracker already [19:48] iam not sure why that bug says affects ia 32 libs [19:48] thats why i asked for it too be triaged [19:49] it is a rfp [19:50] hggdh: I added stuff to the wiki a while back for needs packaging bug that if all the information is there, it can go from New to Triaged === trinikrono1 is now known as trinikrono [19:52] micahg: OK, will do it. [19:53] micahg: thanks [19:53] trinikrono: thank you also ;-) [19:53] if anyone could suggest how to troubleshoot that bug i will be glad [19:53] you guys are awesome [19:53] till someone fixes it [19:54] like temporary [19:56] did you try all the workarounds suggested in it? [19:57] of course , those always work but they all are about removing pulseaudio [19:58] which i dont believe in doing at all, then no point in pulseaudio [19:59] pulseaudio is great , we can listen to multiple audio streams etc [19:59] but something happend after 10.04 [20:00] so i look for ways to fix pulseaudio config but didnt find any [20:00] all users said some fix which included removing pulseaudio [20:01] charlie-tca, anyway thanks for looking at least, ill see for other answers [20:01] bye [20:01] quick question to the chat (may need to redirect to ubuntu-doc) but regarding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingOpenOffice there are no simple instructions on what debug symbols & procedures should be used. As per Novell ( http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bugreport_OOo#How_to_get_strace_log ) strace -o /tmp/strace.log -f -tt -s 512 is the way to go. May want to add to the wiki. :) [20:02] o.o [20:02] I know everything is moving to libre but in the meantime... [20:02] can someone set importance to wishlist of bug 697605 [20:02] Launchpad bug 697605 in haproxy (Ubuntu) "HAProxy 1.3.23 version bump (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/697605 [20:03] the apport retracer is responsible for the debugging symbols - or use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash if you need to retrace it yourself [20:04] yofel: I've had ooo calc crash a thousand times in one day, hasn't self-apported itself once. [20:04] anyone have time to test something on Natty? [20:04] rusivi: you do have apport enabled? (it shouldn't be enabled anywhere currently) [20:04] by default [20:04] micahg: :D if you triage my bug [20:04] micahg: sure, but I'm on KDE [20:04] yofel: I do not have apport enabled. How do I do that? [20:04] i mean wishlist [20:04] trinikrono: bug #? [20:04] rusivi: sudo service apport start force_start=1 [20:05] 697605 [20:05] rusivi: or set it in /etc/default/apport [20:05] micahg I am on xubuntu [20:05] bug 697605 [20:05] bug 697605 [20:05] Launchpad bug 697605 in haproxy (Ubuntu) "HAProxy 1.3.23 version bump (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/697605 [20:05] ok, my bug is bug 705039 [20:05] Launchpad bug 705039 in blam (Ubuntu) "blam won't start (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705039 [20:05] new package here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~micahg/ [20:05] I'm just having some issues getting stuff to work in a chroot ATM [20:05] yofel: Now that I performed sudo service apport start force_start=1 will it auto-prompt me to create a bug the next time calc dies (which will be momentarily)? [20:06] rusivi: yes, if you want apport to stay enabled after a reboot edit /etc/default/apport though [20:06] yofel: Got it. Thank you very much. [20:07] micahg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/555944/ [20:07] yofel: with my package? [20:08] ah oops, sec [20:09] micahg: still crashes http://paste.ubuntu.com/555947/ [20:09] ugh :( [20:10] wow [20:10] i like blam [20:10] i am on jaunty though [20:10] so its fine [20:11] You do know that jaunty reached its End of Life, right? [20:11] yofel: oh well :(, I guess I can dig a little more [20:11] yofel: thanks for testing [20:11] yofel, micahg: the crash seems to be due to the webkit naming update [20:12] it probably needs to be rebuilt using the new soname [20:12] yes Pici [20:12] DllNotFoundException: libwebkit-1.0.so.2 [20:12] trinikrono: okay, just making sure :) [20:12] i now got the pc working yesterday [20:12] seb128: yeah, but gecko-sharp was rebuilt [20:12] it's libwebkitgtk [20:12] it was dead 4 months now === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs [20:14] trinikrono: ok, replied to your bug [20:15] micahg, it might need source changes [20:15] not only a rebuild then [20:15] seb128: ok, I'm wondering if it's something in gecko-sharp or blam, I guess I'll unassign myself and take a look if I have time, thanks [20:16] debian/patches/fix_dllmap.dpatch:+ [20:17] micahg, guess you need to update that one in the source [20:17] seb128: ok, I"ll try that, thanks [20:17] YW [20:17] yw [20:18] seb128: err, is that in gecko-sharp? [20:18] no webkit- [20:18] which is the source for libwebkit1.1-cil [20:19] which blam is using it seems [20:19] oops, that's what I meant :) [20:20] seb128: do you guys have a bzr branch for it? [20:21] micahg, dunno ask the cil guys, it's not in the desktop set [20:21] seb128: ah, ok, thanks [20:21] if it's not in the control guess not [20:21] seb128: there's a Debian one [20:39] yofel: I've got another update on my p.u.c page if you have time to check [20:40] wrong so version, here I have: [20:40] 3029184 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 2011-01-19 17:59 /usr/lib/libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.0 -> libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.0.5.2 [20:41] it looks for System.DllNotFoundException: libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.2 [20:41] yofel: did you try the webkit-cil package? [20:42] that is with the new package [20:42] as you see it looks for libwebkitgtk now, but wrong so version [20:42] ah, ok [23:44] Hello, anyone here? [23:45] sure, if those that are here can help depends on your problem [23:45] I don't have a problem, i have a question [23:46] I have 16 years old i am from Venezuela, speak eglish, spanish and a bit of portugues and wanna help Ubuntu [23:46] I like design Software but i don't know a lot how to help Ubuntu. I wanna start in the BugSquad [23:47] But i don't know how, can you say me how? [23:48] then welcome! You can find the general introduction to bugs in ubuntu here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs and you can learn how to join us on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/GettingInvolved - it also tells you how you can request a mentor [23:49] until then feel free to ask your questions here and if there is nobody online feel free to send a mail to the mailing list [23:49] * hggdh hears Portuguese? [23:50] Thanks a lot, get me a moment please === nhandler is now known as Guest64928 === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [23:57] I'm back, i don't understand one thing, "Sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct." This mean i need be greed with the code or i need send it from i don't know where