[09:37] <RawChid> Hey, is this team still active?
[09:38] <RawChid> I'm a Java programmer, en would like to contribute more to Ubuntu. Can I help this team with packaging?
[10:01] <JamesPage> Hi RawChid
[10:01] <JamesPage> Thanks for your interest in helping out with packaging Java for Ubuntu.
[10:02] <JamesPage> So there are a few ways that you can help out
[10:02] <JamesPage> the delta between Debian and Ubuntu is minimal in the Java space
[10:03] <JamesPage> so helping to package in Debian (and fix any bugs) is one way to contribute
[10:03] <JamesPage> likewise there a loads of bugs logged against Java packages for Ubuntu as well
[10:04] <JamesPage> if you prefer working with Ubuntu you can propose fixes in the current dev release (Natty)
[10:04] <JamesPage> and also submit them back to Debian for later inclusion (Debian is currently in release freeze)
[10:14] <RawChid> JamesPage, thnx for the insight
[10:15] <RawChid> I mainly use Ubuntu but am also familiar with debian (not installed here on a local machine, only server).
[10:15] <RawChid> I've browsed through your wiki.ubuntu.com pages
[10:16] <RawChid> Where can I find what needs to be done?
[10:16] <JamesPage> so launchpad is a good place to start (http://www.launchpad.net)
[10:16] <JamesPage> all bugs associated with Ubuntu Java packages will be logged there
[10:16] <RawChid> Oke, how can I find them?
[10:17] <RawChid> Already familiar with LP
[10:17] <RawChid> But new to packaging
[10:18] <JamesPage> good question;  Java packages typically reside in the Java section of the archive in Ubuntu
[10:19] <JamesPage> however I've not found a good way of querying launchpad using this attribute
[10:19] <JamesPage> so they are not that easy to find.
[10:19] <JamesPage> I tend to keep an eye on packages that I am familiar with in terms of new bugs.
[10:20] <RawChid> Hmm, okay
[10:20] <RawChid> Can you give me an example?
[10:21] <RawChid> I'm still just orientating
[10:22]  * JamesPage looks for a good example
[10:23] <RawChid> Yesterday I did the hello world packaging guide. Now I want to package my own Java program. And when that works I can look where I can help out :)
[10:28] <JamesPage> OK so while I look for an example, take a look here -> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~james-page/+specs?role=assignee
[10:29] <JamesPage> So for background Blueprints are what we discuss and agree at Ubuntu Developer Summits prior to commencing work on a release.
[10:30] <JamesPage> this pretty much encapsulates the new Java work for Natty
[10:30] <RawChid> Let me take a look :)
[10:31] <JamesPage> my key area of focus in Ubuntu is Java so I tend to pick these things up.
[10:32] <JamesPage> Biggest piece is packaging Hudson; this work is at the point where I should have a basic Hudson package complete in the next couple of weeks;
[10:32] <JamesPage> at that point in time work can be spread out as focus turns to packaging plugins from source.
[10:33] <JamesPage> I intend to submit this back to Debian at some point in time; however for this release my focus is to get the majority of it building from source
[10:33] <JamesPage> and deliver through a launchpad PPA (personal package archive) associated with the team working on this.
[10:36] <RawChid> OKay, the team is this JavaPackagin team?
[10:37] <RawChid> Well, first I need to learn more by myself I think.
[10:37] <RawChid> I'll stick around in this chan
[10:39] <RawChid> If you have (or find) a small thing to do which would be good for a beginner just let me know
[10:39] <JamesPage> So for hudson it the Hudson Ubuntu Packaging Team (http://launchpad.net/~hudson-ubuntu)
[10:40] <JamesPage> I'll ping you with anything I spot which could be a good intro.
[10:40] <RawChid> Great :)
[10:50] <JamesPage> RawChid: did you spot this page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam
[10:50] <JamesPage> its a little out of date but does contain some useful information
[10:51] <RawChid> Yes
[10:51] <RawChid> I browsed through it, but since I couldn't find any concrete things to do, I asked here :)