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Kanohi apw , is 38-rc1 ready soon?00:45
Kanomainline i mean00:45
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apwsmb, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/681083 looks to be a xen issue in the lucid -proposed kernel (i think)11:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 681083 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Crashes/Freeze on XenMotion (affects: 3) (heat: 26)" [Undecided,Triaged]11:06
smbapw, Just one more I need. :-P Thanks for the pointer though11:07
apwsmb, i subbed the stable team, but thought you might have insite as you have more xen knowledge11:08
smbapw, The initial output looks more like generic blockage though the others hit some BUGON in spinlock. And there seems to be a patch referenced as well11:11
apwsmb, yeah thats why i saw it, patch piloting over the patch11:11
smbapw, So it seems Natty is safe already as that went into 2.6.37. And as there is no xen in .32 we need our topic branch pull that in11:17
apwthe patch in the bug is already upstream?  got a commit id ?11:18
smbyes it is. bah, just closed the window. A sec11:18
smbI believe that one: 6903591f314b8947d0e362bda7715e90eb9df75e though the title is slightly different11:19
apwyes that is deffo the patch11:20
apwsmb, will you write that up for the bug11:21
smbyup11:21
apwsmb, ta muchly11:21
* tgardner --> server room14:04
apwsconklin-gone, bjf, we seem to be missing some kernel dependant packages in the latest uploads, ie. that meta has been uploaded before lum/lbm/lrm etc are built14:26
apwthis has been reported on our kernel-team list for hardy14:26
tgardnerapw, actually, I'm just checking that. I think its LPIA thats missing14:26
apwtgardner, as in lum for lpia only ?14:27
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smosersmb, just trying to remember. i386 natty kernels on m1.small fail like : http://paste.ubuntu.com/555805/14:49
Warlock072hey guys 14:49
Warlock072ive got ubuntu lucid server showing high cpu usuage on this command ksoftirqd14:49
smosersmb, never mind . i found bug 69982814:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 699828 in linux (Ubuntu) "natty 2.6.37-11-virtual doesn't boot on EC2 in 32bits (affects: 1) (heat: 444)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69982814:51
apwWarlock072, that is interrupt related, does any of the lines in /proc/interrupts show high numbers/high change between two consecutive cats ?14:52
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Warlock072ps -aux | grep ksoftirqd root        22 73.1  0.0      0     0 ?        S    15:11  84:25 [ksoftirqd/6]15:07
Warlock072Local timer interrupts15:09
Warlock072TLB shootdowns15:09
Warlock072changes alot15:09
Warlock072IO-APIC-fasteoi   megasas15:11
Warlock072this one seems to jump alot15:11
hallynppa:kernel-ppa/ppa only has natty images.  Where should I point a user for maverick daily builds?  Or should they just use the natty one?16:33
ckingkentb, so how's it going?16:49
kentbcking, well, macallan with 10.10 server + your kernel and no iommu settings survived 100 s4 cycles16:50
ckingperhaps I should have asked somewhere else. hold on16:50
kentbcking,  ick...just noticed that, too ;)16:51
mjg59Hm. You people took the Dell patch that changes the touchpad from basic PS/2 to IMPS/2?16:52
hallynjjohansen: ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa only has natty images.  Where should I point a user for maverick daily builds?  Or should they just use the natty one?16:58
jjohansenhallyn: for daily builds just natty16:59
jjohansenhallyn: for most recent maverick -proposed kernels16:59
jjohansenjust check the -proposed update option in software sources16:59
hallynso the natty one will run ok in maverick for a test?17:00
jjohansenyeah, I actually use the natty kernel on maverick on a couple machines17:00
hallynawesome, thanks17:00
apwmjg59, i think we have something like that in our tree at the moment17:00
apwcommit f233403def40bee6ae6bd05c6f998a5f820bf10617:01
apwAuthor: Rezwanul Kabir <Rezwanul_Kabir@dell.com>17:01
apwDate:   Tue Nov 23 20:15:14 2010 +000017:01
apw    Add support for Intellimouse Mode in ALPS touchpad on Dell E2 series Laptops17:01
apw    17:01
apw 17:01
apwmjg59, that one?  i applied that to natty to to get some coverage on it before deciding if it was safe for older releases17:01
apwas everyone expects to get borked boxes on natty anyhow :)17:02
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mjg59apw: I'm somewhat worried about it. Dell seem to be pushing it hard, but it just turns one broken configuration into another17:13
mjg59apw: ie, you get scrolling and tap to click, but now you can't turn them off...17:14
apwmjg59, ok that sounds most undesirable 17:14
apwmjg59, that doesn't sound very acceptable and pushing back on it sounds appropriate17:15
mjg59They're trying to get us to take it as well, but I'm pushing back there17:15
apwmjg59, cirtainly taking it in natty does not consitute 'acceptance' here17:15
apwthe purpose of that is to determine if there is regressions for non-dell h/w17:15
mjg59Really need to have support for putting it into absolute mode17:15
apwwell saying that seems completely appropriate17:16
mjg59Ok - just wanted to make sure we didn't end up in a situation where their argument is "Ubuntu's taken it, so it must be fine" :)17:18
apwmjg59, definatly i intended the application to natty to be for regression testing on non-dell h/w as we had applied it once before and all hell had broken loose17:19
apw(a previous version)17:19
mjg59Awesome17:20
mjg59I think this one's DMI-limited to Dell?17:20
apwmjg59, indeed so, but i got badly burnt on the last iteration so i am suspicious of it17:20
apwmjg59, now you mention we cannot turn of click-to-tap i'll make sure someone goes test that17:23
mjg59apw: I suspect it simply won't appear as a touchpad to X, so the control panel won't appear17:23
apwmjg59, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/632884 ... the intent is loosly worded but in that bug17:28
ubot2Launchpad bug 632884 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) " Add support for Intellimouse Mode in ALPS touchpad on Dell Latitude series Laptops (affects: 1) (heat: 44)" [High,Triaged]17:28
mjg59apw: Yeah, I think the upstream answer to that is going to be "no"17:29
apwmjg59, heads up ... x86: Make relocatable kernel work with new binutils ... is triggering hard early boot failures for me (v2.6.38-rc1 based kernels)17:31
mjg59Yes, we've been hitting that17:32
apwmjg59, i don't see it reported on lkml yet, so i guess i'll whine17:33
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ilmariis the intel-drm-next kernel package built on a regular schedule?17:36
ilmaridrm-intel-next, even17:36
apwilmari, that is one of the ones which is built when the tree changes, in theory at least17:37
bjfsmb, isn't there a wiki page which says what in lucid are our "franken" kernel bits?17:39
apwkees, you might want to look at this: [REGRESSION] S3 resume on SandyBridge doesn't work with NX protection (5bd5a45)17:40
ilmariapw: it seems to have been rebased today, so I guess there should be a new package shortly?17:40
apwilmari, its checked daily at 10am UTC17:40
apwso yes i'd expect it to pop out tommorrow in that case17:40
ilmaricheers17:41
apwkees, thats your NX patches triggering all that :)17:45
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keesapw: upstream! :)17:54
keesapw: I can poke at it, but we'll need upstream to help with it. since it's now in the .28 tree, it shouldn't be too insane.17:54
apwwell knowing linus it might not be in upstream if it doesn't get fixed and quick17:55
apwcking, i note that natty is now reporting dmi information on boot ... not sure when it arrived:17:55
apw[    0.000000] DMI 2.6 present.17:55
apw[    0.000000] DMI: 3653/HP Mini 5102, BIOS 68PGU Ver. F.05 03/11/201017:55
apwmight be useful for the fwts stuff too17:55
ckingnice17:56
keesapw: yeah, true. I'll try to take a look at it, but we might need to dig deeper with it. I don't understand why they did it the way they did.17:58
apwcking, were you telling me something about acpi_init performance yesterday18:04
jjohansenrebooting18:36
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bjfapw, git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/longterm/linux-2.6.35.y.git19:55
apw:wq19:55
apwgrr19:55
* jjohansen -> lunch20:01
ckingapw shows off his vi skills20:02
apwcking, shows off his "i want apw to call my wife skills"20:02
ckingdude, I've been offline for last 2 hours - honest!20:03
vanhoofapw: can you begin calling my fiance as well?20:03
vanhoofshe would appreciate it :D20:03
apwsure can, where do you want her to kick you ?20:03
vanhooflulz20:03
* vanhoof makes mental note to not joke like this w/ apw as he'll likely make a call :)20:04
apwvanhoof, sure will ... :)20:04
ckingvanhoof, he will do - that's for sure20:08
Kanohi, why is there still no .38 mainline kernel?20:31
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htorquehello, everyone! are there known issues with 2.6.38-rc1and the ubuntu kernel config? like dying right after grub?20:44
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apwhtorque, thats an upstream error21:55
apwhtorque, revert "x86: Make relocatable kernel work with new binutils"21:56
apwKano, timing ... it will be built in the next hour or so21:56
Kanoand it will not work?21:57
apwKano, it is actually possible for you to make your own if you need them that urgently21:57
apwrc1 won't boot indeed, its broken21:57
Kanoah, is the script available21:57
Kano:)21:57
Kanowould be no problem, my pc is fast enough21:57
Kanoi just dont like to upload kernel which are unpatched, thats wasted time21:58
htorqueapw, thanks :-)21:59
apwhtorque, np22:02
tgardnerapw, I was able to get that zillion core machine to boot by using maxcpus=022:03
apwtgardner, heh thats a good one and no mistake, tried rebuilding with MAX_CPUS=128 ?22:04
tgardnerapw, not yet, I had to leave before I could get it built.22:05
apwtgardner, doh of course ... i wonder if we should be upping that regardless22:05
tgardnerapw, I'm gonna research that option to see what side effect it might have. it could be appropriate for a Lucid SRU22:06
Kanoapw: where is the script used?22:28
Kanoit could be optimizied too because rc kernels are in front of final kernels22:29
Kanoyou should use ~rc22:29
sconklinapw: I had the wrong patch implicated earlier. It's fa7e0b "drm/radeon/kms: properly compute group_size on 6xx/7xx"22:31
sconklinhttp://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/hhSc5lXjWhzzBSGwGzzM22:35
smbbjf, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/KernelDriverDeviations in case you are stll looking22:53
bjfsmb, thanks22:54
smbThough by now, we also got the deviations.txt in the tree itself22:54
bjfsmb, forgot about that22:54
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* apw notes that v2.6.38-rc1 doesn't boot on any of his 32bit machines ... sigh23:16

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