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jhuntbarry: am I causing sound problems?15:38
MootBotMeeting started at 10:01. The chair is robbiew.16:01
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robbiewso...let's see16:02
robbiew[TOPIC] Apologies16:02
MootBotNew Topic:  Apologies16:02
ShootEmUphello everyone16:03
jhuntsoz - forgot to mention that ev contacted me and said he wouldn't be able to attend.16:03
jhunthe's involved in a design meeting.16:03
cjwatsonah, that's where he's been today :)16:04
robbiewdesign meeting?  bah!16:04
robbiewpsurbhi is also MIA16:04
robbiewI thought you were csurbhi internally16:05
robbiewpsurbhi externally16:05
robbiewnow I'm confused :/16:05
robbiew[TOPIC] Lightning Round16:05
MootBotNew Topic:  Lightning Round16:05
robbiewbarry: ?16:05
barrynot much really since the rally.  i was sick the last few days.16:05
doko_libreoffice 3.0rc3 update, upload to natty, natty arm test rebuild, evaluating gcc-4.6 test rebuild, fixing build failures, toolchain updates, eglibc sru's16:07
robbiewcjwatson: ?16:07
cjwatsondone: fixed two of the graphical boot problems we identified at the rally, and will upload once I have a chance to reboot and test it; d-i upstream moved to git, so rebasing loads of bzr branches - about halfway through; lts-backport-maverick support in lucid installer for 10.04.2 (#607657); working on live USB upgrade bug (#591207)16:08
cjwatsontodo: 10.04.2 administrivia; plymouth framebuffer-switch handling; thorough console-setup upgrade testing16:08
cjwatsonoh, and those two bugs have the most time-consuming test setups EVER.  just sayin'16:08
robbiewcjwatson: so I have an desktop with nvidia (amd64), and I've lost my console...all garbled...is that known?16:09
robbiewshould I file a bug?16:09
robbiewthe console's been gone for awhile...desktop is fine, but i can't ctrl-alt-F# to anything16:09
robbiewscrambled at the top16:09
robbiew...oh and I use an HDMI connection16:10
cjwatsonI'm not sure, grab me after the meeting (or possibly tomorrow, I probably ought to leave shortly after the meeting) and I can walk you through some things to narrow it down16:10
robbiewI figured nvidia binary driver got fubar'd16:10
robbiewjhunt: ?16:10
cjwatsonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Grub2BootFramebuffer/Whiteboard roughly summarises what we know so far16:10
jhuntRe-raised upstart "override" feature merge request after updating as a16:10
jhuntresult of Scotts initial review (required some delicate bzr surgery to16:10
jhuntpick apart all the changes). Pushed a branch containing non-feature16:10
jhuntchanges (typos) to Scott for review.  Started playing with launchpadlib.16:10
jhuntHad a couple of Upstart customer queries to deal with. Now working on16:10
jhuntjob visualization feature and making good progress. Plan to continue16:10
jhuntvisualization work this week, do some bzr branch magic for upstart,16:10
jhuntfully test lp:#672177 and then get approval for it, get to work on the16:10
jhuntbug backlog and if time keep an eye on the mailing lists :)16:10
* cjwatson ♥ launchpadlib16:11
robbiewjhun: thnx!16:12
robbiewcsurbhi: ?16:12
csurbhiworking on mvo's btrfs snapshot on upgrade - adding support in the installer. testing the work16:12
csurbhiafter this is done, this week also plan to resume work on event driven initramfs16:12
robbiewcsurbhi: did you catch the email from cjwatson regarding the umount bug?16:13
jhuntrobbiew: was that a joke? :)16:13
csurbhirobbiew, no i havent16:13
robbiewjhunt: nah...just a typo16:13
jhuntrobbiew: 'jhun' :) You've been reading my name badges again! :)16:13
csurbhii have been off my main machine16:13
csurbhishall look at it before logging off today16:13
robbiewthat explains the missed 1:1 ;)16:13
cjwatsoncsurbhi: it was on private-platfound16:13
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robbiewcsurbhi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/57985816:14
cjwatsonFWIW, the lucid SRU freeze is tomorrow, so if you can't make it, please let me know and I'll try to find somebody else16:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 579858 in util-linux (Ubuntu Lucid) "umount segfault on shutdown when unmounting autofs mountpoint" [High,Triaged]16:14
csurbhicjwatson, i will have a look16:14
robbiew[TOPIC] Natty16:15
MootBotNew Topic:  Natty16:15
robbiewhttp://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-foundations-natty-alpha-2.html  not that bad16:15
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-foundations-natty-alpha-2.html  not that bad16:15
robbiewand http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-foundations.html looks great16:15
cjwatsonTBH this cycle I've been doing really badly at tracking the subcycle graphs, and instead just working with the full-cycle one16:16
robbiewI think that's okay really...as we don't have much subcycle dependent stuff16:16
robbiewmaybe RnR in software-center16:16
jhuntrobbiew: btw - as discussed with cjwatson, although the override work is done for upstart, it is still "INPROGRESS" as needs review from keybuk.16:16
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doko_should add build failures to burn down charts, maybe then somebody is fixing these ...16:17
cjwatsonI've fixed a few :P16:17
robbiewdoko_: I think skaet can put the right amount of attention on that16:17
cjwatson(not that many though, admittedly)16:17
robbiew[TOPIC] AOB16:17
MootBotNew Topic:  AOB16:17
robbiewI've already sent mail about the handful of 10.04.2 bugs...not that bad16:18
robbiewbut we should try to get them fixed if at all possible16:18
robbiewalso been looking at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-foundations-assigned-bug-tasks.html16:18
robbiewspecifically mvo's bugs16:18
robbiewbeen going through the REALLY old ones...with no comments in 2 years16:18
robbiewchecking to see if they are still valid16:19
cjwatsonyeah, I'd hoped to look at those at the rally but we didn't find time16:19
robbiewno worries16:19
doko_heh, I just closed a 5 year old one16:19
marjodoko_ thx!16:19
robbiewI've stayed away from cjwatson's....I know how you get16:19
robbiewplus your count isn't as insane16:19
robbiewmvo had +140 bugs assigned16:19
cjwatsonI go through them now and again and unassign a few - a lot of the assignments are legacy and I'd definitely like to have a usable assigned-to list16:20
csurbhii have a bunch of mdadm fixes that i had put on launchpad and asked users to test16:21
csurbhia few have responded on that16:21
robbiewcsurbhi: \o/ sweet16:21
robbiewon that note16:21
csurbhii was wondering if there was a better way of testing it16:21
robbiew[TOPIC] Good News16:21
barry60Mbps/6Mbps :)16:22
cjwatsoncsurbhi: giant pile of virtual machines?16:22
cjwatsondoes depend rather on the bug ...16:22
csurbhicjwatson, its a lot of bugs together16:22
csurbhiand the fix applies for maverick16:22
csurbhiand a few of them for natty16:22
csurbhisince natty has a much later version of mdadm than maverick16:22
csurbhior lucid16:23
csurbhiand the fixes are basically backported for a lot of mdadm bugs applicable to the older packages16:23
csurbhiand very few for the newer one16:23
MootBotNew Topic:  Good News16:23
robbiewno good news :/16:24
csurbhikept my package here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~csurbhi/+archive/mdadm-autoassembly for mdadm-2.7.1 for anyone to try out16:24
cjwatsoncsurbhi: I'm just suggesting that if it's not a subtle timing-dependent bug or something then a big pile of VMs can be a much easier way to test behaviour with odd combinations of disks than many other approaches16:25
cjwatsondoes depend on having reasonably fast virtualisation though16:25
cjwatsonbut that's what I do when fixing RAID bugs and similar in GRUB16:26
csurbhii tested it on KVM.. but was hoping for wider testing16:26
cjwatsonright, sometimes all you can do is get basic assurance for yourself in kvm and then upload and see who screams16:27
csurbhiok, i guess i will request a merge this week then :) its been a while since i posted the ppa :)16:27
cjwatson(note: this approach works better when it isn't right at the end of the release cycle ;-) )16:27
csurbhiright :)16:28
robbiewcjwatson: heh...+10016:28
robbiewokey dokey16:29
robbiewno reason to waste time ;)16:29
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robbiewthnx all!16:29
csurbhithanks robbiew :)16:29
barrythanks robbiew16:29
jhuntcheers.... from sunny England :)16:30
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JackyAlcineWhen's the accessibility meeting?19:52
charlie-tcaJackyAlcine: 21:00 UTC, in #ubuntu-accessibility19:54
JackyAlcineThanks :D19:54
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