[15:38] <jhunt> barry: am I causing sound problems?
[16:01] <robbiew> o/
[16:01] <cjwatson> hi
[16:01] <robbiew> #startmeeting
[16:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:01. The chair is robbiew.
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[16:01] <jhunt> hallo
[16:02] <robbiew> so...let's see
[16:02] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Apologies
[16:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Apologies
[16:02] <robbiew> mvo
[16:02] <robbiew> Keybuk
[16:03] <jhunt> :)
[16:03] <ShootEmUp> hello everyone
[16:03] <robbiew> ev?
[16:03] <jhunt> soz - forgot to mention that ev contacted me and said he wouldn't be able to attend.
[16:03] <jhunt> he's involved in a design meeting.
[16:04] <cjwatson> ah, that's where he's been today :)
[16:04] <robbiew> design meeting?  bah!
[16:04] <robbiew> :P
[16:04] <robbiew> ok
[16:04] <robbiew> psurbhi is also MIA
[16:04] <csurbhi> o/
[16:04] <robbiew> hey
[16:04] <csurbhi> hey
[16:05] <robbiew> I thought you were csurbhi internally
[16:05] <robbiew> psurbhi externally
[16:05] <robbiew> now I'm confused :/
[16:05] <robbiew> lol
[16:05] <csurbhi> :D
[16:05] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Lightning Round
[16:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Lightning Round
[16:05] <robbiew> barry: ?
[16:05] <barry> not much really since the rally.  i was sick the last few days.
[16:06] <robbiew> loser!
[16:06] <robbiew> lol
[16:06] <barry> ;)
[16:06] <robbiew> doko?
[16:07] <doko_> libreoffice 3.0rc3 update, upload to natty, natty arm test rebuild, evaluating gcc-4.6 test rebuild, fixing build failures, toolchain updates, eglibc sru's
[16:07] <doko_> done
[16:07] <robbiew> thnx!
[16:07] <robbiew> cjwatson: ?
[16:08] <cjwatson> done: fixed two of the graphical boot problems we identified at the rally, and will upload once I have a chance to reboot and test it; d-i upstream moved to git, so rebasing loads of bzr branches - about halfway through; lts-backport-maverick support in lucid installer for 10.04.2 (#607657); working on live USB upgrade bug (#591207)
[16:08] <cjwatson> todo: 10.04.2 administrivia; plymouth framebuffer-switch handling; thorough console-setup upgrade testing
[16:08] <cjwatson> --
[16:08] <cjwatson> oh, and those two bugs have the most time-consuming test setups EVER.  just sayin'
[16:08] <robbiew> lol
[16:09] <robbiew> cjwatson: so I have an desktop with nvidia (amd64), and I've lost my console...all garbled...is that known?
[16:09] <robbiew> should I file a bug?
[16:09] <robbiew> the console's been gone for awhile...desktop is fine, but i can't ctrl-alt-F# to anything
[16:09] <robbiew> scrambled at the top
[16:10] <robbiew> ...oh and I use an HDMI connection
[16:10] <cjwatson> I'm not sure, grab me after the meeting (or possibly tomorrow, I probably ought to leave shortly after the meeting) and I can walk you through some things to narrow it down
[16:10] <robbiew> I figured nvidia binary driver got fubar'd
[16:10] <robbiew> cool
[16:10] <robbiew> jhunt: ?
[16:10] <cjwatson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Grub2BootFramebuffer/Whiteboard roughly summarises what we know so far
[16:10] <robbiew> ack
[16:10] <jhunt> Re-raised upstart "override" feature merge request after updating as a
[16:10] <jhunt> result of Scotts initial review (required some delicate bzr surgery to
[16:10] <jhunt> pick apart all the changes). Pushed a branch containing non-feature
[16:10] <jhunt> changes (typos) to Scott for review.  Started playing with launchpadlib.
[16:10] <jhunt> Had a couple of Upstart customer queries to deal with. Now working on
[16:10] <jhunt> job visualization feature and making good progress. Plan to continue
[16:10] <jhunt> visualization work this week, do some bzr branch magic for upstart,
[16:10] <jhunt> fully test lp:#672177 and then get approval for it, get to work on the
[16:10] <jhunt> bug backlog and if time keep an eye on the mailing lists :)
[16:11] <jhunt> EOT
[16:11]  * cjwatson ♥ launchpadlib
[16:12] <robbiew> jhun: thnx!
[16:12] <robbiew> csurbhi: ?
[16:12] <csurbhi> working on mvo's btrfs snapshot on upgrade - adding support in the installer. testing the work
[16:12] <csurbhi> after this is done, this week also plan to resume work on event driven initramfs
[16:12] <csurbhi> done
[16:13] <robbiew> csurbhi: did you catch the email from cjwatson regarding the umount bug?
[16:13] <jhunt> robbiew: was that a joke? :)
[16:13] <csurbhi> robbiew, no i havent
[16:13] <robbiew> jhunt: nah...just a typo
[16:13] <jhunt> robbiew: 'jhun' :) You've been reading my name badges again! :)
[16:13] <csurbhi> i have been off my main machine
[16:13] <robbiew> ah
[16:13] <csurbhi> shall look at it before logging off today
[16:13] <robbiew> that explains the missed 1:1 ;)
[16:13] <cjwatson> csurbhi: it was on private-platfound
[16:14] <robbiew> csurbhi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/579858
[16:14] <cjwatson> FWIW, the lucid SRU freeze is tomorrow, so if you can't make it, please let me know and I'll try to find somebody else
[16:14] <csurbhi> cjwatson, i will have a look
[16:14] <cjwatson> thanks
[16:15] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Natty
[16:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  Natty
[16:15] <robbiew> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-foundations-natty-alpha-2.html  not that bad
[16:15] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-foundations-natty-alpha-2.html  not that bad
[16:15] <robbiew> and http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-foundations.html looks great
[16:16] <cjwatson> TBH this cycle I've been doing really badly at tracking the subcycle graphs, and instead just working with the full-cycle one
[16:16] <robbiew> I think that's okay really...as we don't have much subcycle dependent stuff
[16:16] <robbiew> maybe RnR in software-center
[16:16] <jhunt> robbiew: btw - as discussed with cjwatson, although the override work is done for upstart, it is still "INPROGRESS" as needs review from keybuk.
[16:17] <robbiew> ack
[16:17] <doko_> should add build failures to burn down charts, maybe then somebody is fixing these ...
[16:17] <cjwatson> I've fixed a few :P
[16:17] <robbiew> doko_: I think skaet can put the right amount of attention on that
[16:17] <cjwatson> (not that many though, admittedly)
[16:17] <robbiew> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:17] <MootBot> New Topic:  AOB
[16:18] <robbiew> I've already sent mail about the handful of 10.04.2 bugs...not that bad
[16:18] <robbiew> but we should try to get them fixed if at all possible
[16:18] <robbiew> also been looking at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-foundations-assigned-bug-tasks.html
[16:18] <robbiew> specifically mvo's bugs
[16:18] <robbiew> been going through the REALLY old ones...with no comments in 2 years
[16:19] <robbiew> checking to see if they are still valid
[16:19] <cjwatson> yeah, I'd hoped to look at those at the rally but we didn't find time
[16:19] <robbiew> no worries
[16:19] <doko_> heh, I just closed a 5 year old one
[16:19] <marjo> doko_ thx!
[16:19] <robbiew> I've stayed away from cjwatson's....I know how you get
[16:19] <robbiew> lol
[16:19] <robbiew> plus your count isn't as insane
[16:19] <robbiew> mvo had +140 bugs assigned
[16:20] <cjwatson> hah
[16:20] <cjwatson> I go through them now and again and unassign a few - a lot of the assignments are legacy and I'd definitely like to have a usable assigned-to list
[16:21] <csurbhi> i have a bunch of mdadm fixes that i had put on launchpad and asked users to test
[16:21] <csurbhi> a few have responded on that
[16:21] <robbiew> csurbhi: \o/ sweet
[16:21] <robbiew> on that note
[16:21] <csurbhi> i was wondering if there was a better way of testing it
[16:21] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Good News
[16:22] <barry> 60Mbps/6Mbps :)
[16:22] <cjwatson> csurbhi: giant pile of virtual machines?
[16:22] <cjwatson> does depend rather on the bug ...
[16:22] <csurbhi> cjwatson, its a lot of bugs together
[16:22] <csurbhi> and the fix applies for maverick
[16:22] <csurbhi> and a few of them for natty
[16:22] <csurbhi> since natty has a much later version of mdadm than maverick
[16:23] <csurbhi> or lucid
[16:23] <csurbhi> and the fixes are basically backported for a lot of mdadm bugs applicable to the older packages
[16:23] <csurbhi> and very few for the newer one
[16:23] <MootBot> New Topic:  Good News
[16:24] <robbiew> no good news :/
[16:24] <robbiew> so...so...sad
[16:24] <robbiew> lol
[16:24] <csurbhi> kept my package here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~csurbhi/+archive/mdadm-autoassembly for mdadm-2.7.1 for anyone to try out
[16:25] <cjwatson> csurbhi: I'm just suggesting that if it's not a subtle timing-dependent bug or something then a big pile of VMs can be a much easier way to test behaviour with odd combinations of disks than many other approaches
[16:25] <cjwatson> does depend on having reasonably fast virtualisation though
[16:26] <cjwatson> but that's what I do when fixing RAID bugs and similar in GRUB
[16:26] <csurbhi> i tested it on KVM.. but was hoping for wider testing
[16:27] <cjwatson> right, sometimes all you can do is get basic assurance for yourself in kvm and then upload and see who screams
[16:27] <csurbhi> ok, i guess i will request a merge this week then :) its been a while since i posted the ppa :)
[16:27] <cjwatson> (note: this approach works better when it isn't right at the end of the release cycle ;-) )
[16:27] <csurbhi> thanks!
[16:28] <csurbhi> right :)
[16:28] <robbiew> cjwatson: heh...+100
[16:28] <robbiew> lol
[16:29] <robbiew> okey dokey
[16:29] <robbiew> no reason to waste time ;)
[16:29] <robbiew> #endmeeting
[16:29] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:29.
[16:29] <robbiew> thnx all!
[16:29] <csurbhi> thanks robbiew :)
[16:29] <barry> thanks robbiew
[16:30] <jhunt> cheers.... from sunny England :)
[19:00] <highvoltage> Hello
[19:05]  * charlie-tca waves at highvoltage 
[19:05]  * dinda waves
[19:06] <mgariepy> hello
[19:52] <JackyAlcine> When's the accessibility meeting?
[19:54] <charlie-tca> JackyAlcine: 21:00 UTC, in #ubuntu-accessibility
[19:54] <JackyAlcine> Thanks :D